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Corporate Tax Policies 'The Worst Of All Worlds' As Big Companies Often Pay Little

The Huffington Post   First Posted: 02/02/11 12:20 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:30 PM ET

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New York Times columnist David Leonhardt has an excellent piece out diving into the paradox of the American corporate tax code -- "the worst of all worlds" -- and the supreme difficulty of achieving the kind of reform Obama called for in his State of the Union address last week.

"I'm asking Democrats and Republicans to simplify the system. Get rid of the loopholes," Obama said in his address. "A parade of lobbyists has rigged the tax code to benefit particular companies and industries."

The top corporate tax rate in the United States is 35 percent, one of the highest in the world -- but, Leonhardt notes, the code is filled with so many loopholes and credits that few companies pay the top rate. And for this those companies that are paying only 4 or 5 percent, there is little incentive to overhaul the system.

As Leonhardt puts it, "any system that creates as many winners as this one won't be changed easily":

Or, as Jonathan Chait approximates it at The New Republic, "reforming the corporate income tax means transferring money away from companies with lots of political clout toward those with less political clout."

One of the major winners of the current loophole-ridden tax code system is General Electric -- and GE's CEO Jeffrey Immelt was recently appointed to head President Obama's Council on Jobs and Competitiveness, which is expected to suggest changes to the corporate tax code.

How does GE play the game so well? There are a number of routes that companies who pay low corporate tax rates can go, such as spending large sums of money on new equipment, or a company losing money can subtract their losses from initial profits thus avoiding tax payments until they are consistently earning money again. GE, as Leonhardt put it, is simply "expert at avoiding taxes":

When the three accounting professors analyzed more than 2,000 companies, they found big variations in tax rates within almost every subset of companies. Companies in the same industry often paid very different rates, even when they were similar in size.

G.E. is so good at avoiding taxes that some people consider its tax department to be the best in the world, even better than any law firm's. One common strategy is maximizing the amount of profit that is officially earned in countries with low tax rates.

At the Atlantic, Derek Thompson displays some nice graphs (h/t Tax Notes) which track the drastic drop in GE's effective tax rate from approximately 30 percent in the 1990s to extremely low levels today. Thompson notes: "What's good for GE isn't necessarily good for the U.S. Treasury."

However, Thompson also adds that Immelt "should be an expert" at suggesting changes to the tax code. Given Immelt's history of blasting the high corporate tax rate, and his company's adept navigation of tax arcana, it may be doubtful that he will be a reform-from-within leader. But Thompson's point still raises the question: is Immelt President Obama's Joseph Kennedy?

Kennedy was appointed by Roosevelt to be the first chairman of the SEC -- despite years of risky behavior on Wall Street. A BusinessWeek article on "Joseph Kennedy's Enduring Example" lays out the relevant historical details:

After becoming the youngest bank president in the country at age 25, Kennedy gained notoriety as a Wall Street speculator throughout the 1920s and early 1930s. In the 1930s, for example, he participated in the Libby-Owens-Ford stock pool, a scheme in which Kennedy and his partners created an artificial scarcity of Libby-Owens-Ford stock to drive up the value of their own portfolios. The pool, and others like it, was investigated by Senate Banking and Currency Committee counsel Ferdinand Pecora, who just a few years later would report to Kennedy as one of the SEC's commissioners. Clearly, Kennedy wasn't an obvious choice for the role of reformer. Indeed, Roosevelt is said to have responded to criticism of his appointment of Kennedy by saying, "It takes a thief to catch one."

Yet Kennedy succeeded beyond anyone's imagination in his efforts to create a watchdog for the securities business -- to the surprise of both his Wall Street associates and those who distrusted him. In retrospect, it seems as though Kennedy understood that the SEC represented such a radical idea that it was doomed to fail unless he persuaded a defiant business community to offer a measure of cooperation.

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New York Times columnist David Leonhardt has an excellent piece out diving into the paradox of the American corporate tax code -- "the worst of all worlds" -- and the supreme difficulty of achieving ...
New York Times columnist David Leonhardt has an excellent piece out diving into the paradox of the American corporate tax code -- "the worst of all worlds" -- and the supreme difficulty of achieving ...
 
 
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11:39 PM on 02/03/2011
And hedge fund managers only pay a 15%tax rate too. The US is broke because no one wants to pay. The rich want to take even more from the system than the poor and middle class.
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JPMac
08:15 PM on 02/03/2011
The reason these companies don't pay taxes here is we have the 2nd highest corporate tax tate in the developed world!!! 2ND HIGHEST!!! Why in the world would anyone in their right mind bring profits back only to see 35% go it the US Federal Government!!! No one not even the liberals he at the HP could ratioanlize that idea.. if they can there is nothing stopping them from writing a check to the federal government for wverything above and beyone their basic needs!!

Let's see how many check come in!!
04:25 AM on 02/04/2011
Wake up! The US system of government-by-bribery is taken advantage of by all the "American" globals and "international" globals. They're not stupid.
 At some point, the US investor class is going to have to fish or cut bait. You can either pack up your stuff and leave, or show your interest in being American and contribute to the society that spawned you without constant whining. Personally, I believe every "global elite American" can be replaced , and quickly.
If you hate taxes, and regulation, Somalia is your kinda place. Go for it!
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Dave Thinkster Paulson
A concerned American moderate
02:47 PM on 02/03/2011
Immelt another Joseph Kennedy? On the surface, it certainly looks like another Obama move to bolster chances of reelection by embracing corporate America. The list of Wall Street insiders helping to establish economic policy isn’t enough, so now we’re looking to a champion of tax manipulation and offshoring jobs to lead reform efforts in these areas. Does the President believe that there’s any point at which placing the fox in charge of henhouse security should be rejected?

The fact about GE is that they’re amongst the very best companies at avoiding taxation. The government actually owed them $1.1 billion for their 2009 income tax: http://bit.ly/hhWX9q. To believe that Immelt, or the CEO of any multinational corporation presently managing to avoid income tax will help the government to adversely impact their bottom line is entirely nonsensical.

The problem with corporate taxation is so bad that a 2008 GAO study showed 2 out of three pay no taxes. Even Exxon, the most profitable “American†corporation, who made a record $42.5 billion profit in 2008, paid ZERO in U.S. taxes on those earnings.

The truth of the matter is that multinational corporations are “American†in name only: http://exm.nr/fl9UVA. Their fortunes often run contrary to the prosperity of our nation, which is why their profits are now at record highs while most Americans are still suffering. It high time that people understand this reality and reject any policy that denies it.
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Stewart Goss
01:30 PM on 02/03/2011
Uninteded consequences of lending "reforms":

- The poor have to resort to loan sharks as crackdowns eliminate payday lenders (where they shopped because banks no longer offer them loans due to new government restrictions).
- Responsible people who manage their bank accounts properly are discovering that Free Checking is going the way of the Dodo (no comments on credit unions please they don't have to abide by the same rules)

And just as I predicted, NET NEUTRALITY will discourage innovation and slow down internet performance for everyone:

"Verizon to slow data speeds for 1 million customers"

That is just the leading edge.
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DXM
A sane moderate living during insane extreme times
06:57 PM on 02/03/2011
"where they shopped because banks no longer offer them loans due to new government restrictio­ns"

When did reputable banks EVER offer "pay day"-type loans to the poor? Loaning money to the poor has high risk and it doesn't take any government regulation to tell a good bank manager NOT to make such a transaction.
-swift
Micro-bio? We don't need no stinking micro-bios!
01:10 PM on 02/03/2011
Odds, are, instead of cutting hundreds and hundreds of loopholes out of the tax system, they'll add hundreds more in.

I'd love to see an administration offer to rewrite the tax code from start.
10:31 AM on 02/03/2011
The answer is a flat tax, say 12% or 14% or whatever is needed. No exceptions, no deductions, no excuses, the same for every person, business and corporation.
11:35 AM on 02/03/2011
I and many others have supported a flat tax for years - it will never happen because far to many make fortunes off the current system that has thousands of pages of code written by a bunch of lawyers.

Hopefully someday the country will make it happen.
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Dave Thinkster Paulson
A concerned American moderate
02:06 PM on 02/03/2011
Flat tax is the regressive nirvana of the conservative right. There is no way that we can generate the revues needed through a flat tax without middle-class tax payers paying substantially more. What's needed is retention of the progressive scale, with different rates as may be applicable, along with a complete elimination of the complex system of deductions, exemptions, credits and allowances.

This would reduce the tax cheats and simplify tax returns, but would do so in a progressive rather than a regressive manner.
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JPMac
08:12 PM on 02/03/2011
Really with 47% of the population paying no federal income tax at all!!! It's time that everyone pays taxes, that will prevent this class warfare when everyone as Joe Biden says has Skin in the Game. It's always to spend someone elses money!!!
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Jennifer Hill
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10:11 AM on 02/03/2011
There is no such thing as Free Enterprise or laissez faire capitalism. The corporations have been able to get changes in the tax code to get low taxes and when that doesn't work they get the best help money can buy. In fact the new head of the Council of Economic advisers Immelt's company GE is one of the biggest culprits of professionalizing tax avoidance "G.E. is so good at avoiding taxes that some people consider its tax department to be the best in the world, even better than any law firm's. One common strategy is maximizing the amount of profit that is officially earned in countries with low tax rates." They are not good corporate citizens.
09:34 AM on 02/03/2011
The tax system will never be reformed enough that it becomes simple. Why? Accountants and attorneys and others make their livings off an utterly messed up system. The tax system is regularly altered to benefit lobbyists, millionaires and corporations, so there is no consistency.
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08:11 AM on 02/03/2011
This is what happens when corporations run the government.

• 83% of all U.S. stocks are in the hands of 1% of the people.
• 66% of the income growth between 2001 and 2007 went to the top 1% of all
Americans.
• In 1950, the ratio of the average executive's paycheck to the average worker's paycheck
was about 30 to 1. Since the year 2000, that ratio has exploded to between 300 to 500 to
one.
• As of 2007, the bottom 80% of American households held about 7% of the liquid
financial assets.
• Average Wall Street bonuses for 2009 were up 17% when compared with 2008.
They’re up another 5% in 2010.
• The top 1% of U.S. households own nearly twice as much of America's corporate
wealth as they did just 15 years ago.
• More than 40% of employed Americans are now working in service jobs, which are
often very low paying.
• The top 10% of Americans now earn around 50% of our national income and the top
1% earn around 24%.

More at;

http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-ticker/the-u.s.-middle-class-is-being-wiped-out-here%27s-t
he-stats-to-prove-it-520657.html?tickers=^DJI,^GSPC,SPY,MCD,WMT,XRT,DIA

(cut and paste, if you care)

The middle class is about to be extinguished in America. It's been 30 years in the making and those at the top either don't care or are being paid not to. We need new leaders. Now.
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bllnsinchnge
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09:07 AM on 02/03/2011
With out production and savings this is not going to change. Government rewarding failures: Chrysler, GM, S&L, AIG, Fannie/Freddie is making the discrepancies worse. The Federal reserve is openly supporting speculation and discouraging savings by creating money without an interest on savings.
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yahooserious
clueless in the middle of Texas
10:40 AM on 02/03/2011
so many people refuse to look behind the curtain in order to see who is manipulating everything. sad.
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bllnsinchnge
peace, markets, freedom
06:42 AM on 02/03/2011
17,000 pages in the tax code, how could that be corrupted? www.fairtax.org
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09:25 AM on 02/03/2011
The average American's tax code could be printed on about 50 pages. The other 16,950 pages are the loopholes, complexities, giveaways, tax credits, and international subsidies for powerful corporations and the rich. The more complex it is, the more gray it becomes, and before you know it, the rich don't pay even the posted rate.
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deepintheheartoftejas
Middle o/t Road = Yellow stripes & dead armadillos
05:48 AM on 02/03/2011
"The average total tax rate for the 500 companies over the last five years — again, including federal, state, local and foreign corporate taxes — was 32.8 percent. Among those paying more than the average were Exxon Mobil, FedEx, Goldman Sachs, JPMorgan Chase, Starbucks, Wal-Mart and Walt Disney."

Exxon Mobil, Wal-Mart, and Goldman Sachs paying more than their fair share? I find that hard to believe. It was only a couple years ago that Exxon was bragging about paying no taxes at all.
schatsie
banks are more dangerous than standing armies
05:54 AM on 02/03/2011
That includes the SS taxes as well....Read Free LUNCH we need to gut the Corporate Welfare Queens......I pay close to 50% and am in the middle quintile....
schatsie
banks are more dangerous than standing armies
05:48 AM on 02/03/2011
Just replace the Capital Gains tax with the income tax.....simple...not hard....

Then audit the business expenses...I do not consider a 50 million dollar corporate jet redocoration to be a reasonable and necessary business expense......
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04:51 AM on 02/03/2011
Dince corporations are people, then either they should pay taxes like most all other citizens must, or all citizens should be relieved from paying all taxes - like the benefit allowed the corporation-people. We can't, or shouldn't have it both ways. Well, if we did that would be in keeping with our general state of national schizophrenia.
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04:54 AM on 02/03/2011
Aargh! Since, not dince.
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AmosKnows
02:06 AM on 02/03/2011
"reforming the corporate income tax means transferring money away from companies with lots of political clout toward those with less political clout."

"lots of political clout" = "they own the government"

Corporations have 900 billion in profits that they are NOT creating jobs with but instead are giving that money back to their shareholders and/or investing it overseas. These are the same shareholders that control almost all of the wealth in the US and who use that money to buy the government so that their corporations can make more money and contribute nothing back to the American people - it's nothing more than wealth consolidation and transfer - transfer in the sense that the US is deficit spending (in part) because these corporations pay little or no taxes.
schatsie
banks are more dangerous than standing armies
05:49 AM on 02/03/2011
And real public financing of campaigns.....really....bribes buy people ....ask Halliburton....ask the US taxpayers who fund Halliburton why the US taxpayers are paying bribes.....
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elan4444
01:28 AM on 02/03/2011
While Republicans go about union dismantling by bad-mouthing teachers, of all people, I ask who among us would spend ten minutes in a high school classroom, let alone an entire day? These individuals need fireman's pay to be asked to remain in what is actually a combat zone. I have never breathed such a sigh of relief as the day when all my kids were graduated from HS.
schatsie
banks are more dangerous than standing armies
05:50 AM on 02/03/2011
and the teachers know it....really.....