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Q&A With Newark Mayor Cory Booker: 'We Couldn't Cut Enough'


First Posted: 02/03/11 11:57 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:30 PM ET

Since he became mayor of Newark in 2006, Cory Booker has had to make cuts that previously seemed unthinkable.

Under his watch, the city closed libraries, imposed furloughs on employees and, late last year, laid off about 13 percent of its police force. While the police department says there are no fewer officers on patrol -- thanks to reassignments within the force -- a spike in crime in the two months since the layoffs has left some residents worried about safety.

Newark isn't alone. After the worst financial crisis since the Depression, cities across the nation have seen revenue wither. As they struggle to get their books in order, cities are increasingly finding that they don't have the money to fund even the most basic of services.

But while Booker faces a common problem, his strategies for dealing with it are unusual. He spoke with HuffPost about how he navigates the budgeting process, and why he has hope for the city of Newark.

HuffPost: A trailer for the new season of Brick City starts with a quote from you, on the screen, where you say, "Squeeze everything else but police and fire." But late last year, the city laid off 164 officers, about 13 percent of the force. How did it come to that?

Booker: Look, budgets across the country -- 60 percent of American cities have had reductions in their forces of public safety. And, so, this is not something that's unique to Newark. In fact, right now it's plaguing major cities in New Jersey. Camden has had major layoffs. Paterson is facing layoffs. Atlantic City. Jersey City. We're facing, literally, the worst economy of our lifetimes.

So, we have dramatic losses in revenue. And public safety, frankly -- police and fire -- make up the significant majority of our budget. We were squeezing and starving every other area of our city. Furloughing employees, cutting staff. But it came to a point where we couldn't cut enough to make up for the tremendous budgetary shortfall.

Challenges demand creativity. I'm grateful that the police director and my team really came forward with a substantive plan to make sure that the loss of those police officers didn't affect the progress we were making in the street.

And, look, it's been a difficult adjustment. We had really some challenges in the month of December. But now, as we're going through January, things are really getting back on track. And I'm really encouraged. Remember, the first three years in office, we led the nation in percentage reduction of shootings and murders. And I'm really confident that now we're beginning to get back to that nation-leading pace.

HP: I've heard that there are the same number of officers patrolling the street. But I also have heard from some of the union officials that in order to accomplish that, older officers have had to be re-deployed: People who were looking at retirement are now on street patrol. Are you concerned about officer safety?

CB: I'm always concerned about officer safety. I think when you are the leader of men and women who put their lives on the line -- whether it's firefighters and police, or national guard members in the military -- that's the most horrific thing, I think, for an executive, when guys who put their lives on the line get hurt or injured.

That's a concern that hasn't changed as a result of the layoffs. But in many ways, we have more experienced officers on the streets. Guys with more years under their belts, not people that are six months out of the academy. It's a give-and-take in many ways.

Look, I'm very happy: We have our chief, who used to be doing other jobs, now in precincts, running our precincts. In many ways, we have the best talent of the agency closer to the street and closer to the ground on a daily basis.

HP: The city has also laid off other workers. How deep can the city cut before it just stops to function?

CB: Money is a necessary but not sufficient resource with which to get the job done. And I found out when I first came in -- we were dialing down our budgets every year that I've been in office. What I've been finding is, if you are more creative, if you bring more resources to the table from outside your taxpayer base -- you know, we've raised well over $200 million in private philanthropy for our strategic needs here in the city of Newark -- it's if you bring people together to volunteer, and do things that they weren't doing before, you can still make tremendous progress.

A lot of our best innovations since I've been mayor have been public-private partnerships. Whether it's our ex-offender reentry programs, or even the camera system that we put up all around the city -- all paid for by philanthropy -- Newark is creating a real good model for government effectiveness and advancement, based on its partnership with non-profits and the private sector.

HP: Does that include your own involvement in citizens' lives? Especially via your Twitter feed?

CB: Today's a great day. We got out early this morning. I've been myself inspecting streets, but I've got now thousands of more eyes on my streets, and people tweeting me about what's wrong. In the last month alone, my Twitter feed has helped me get water main breaks addressed before I even knew they existed -- to even traffic lights, to even bigger things, like people that are in need of emergency services but can't get through.

Government in the 21st century in America is going to change dramatically. We've seen government obligations mushrooming, like pension costs and health care costs. It's gonna squeeze out a lot of the other things that we expect from government, unless we get more creative and change the way government does business.

This is what Newark is trying to do. Under tough circumstances, in the worst economy of a lifetime, we're actually making strides in areas, from affordable housing, to re-entry services, to grassroots financial empowerment and literacy, to public safety efforts.

We're able to make some strides, even though this is such a tough time, because we're thinking creatively. We're bringing in new partnerships, we're introducing technology. It's not easy -- we're stumbling and falling, and we're occasionally being set back. But all in all, if you look at Newark compared to five years ago, our shootings are dramatically down, murders are dramatically down, our population is dramatically up.

There's a lot of hope in Newark. The arena, and the arts culture in Newark, is booming. There's more basketball games -- college and professional -- played in Newark right now than any place in America, except for the Staples Center and Madison Square Garden. So much is happening in Newark right now that's making me downright proud.

But every day, every inch of ground you've got to earn. It's tough, it's hard, but I've got great partners helping me in and outside of government.

HP: How do you make these budget decisions? How do you determine whether to close libraries, or lay off workers? Or cut toilet paper from the city offices?

CB: Well, the toilet paper never got cut. [Laughs.] It is tough decisions. I often joke that the decisions we had to make last year were between awful and godawful. But at the same time, that's what you're elected for. I would rather be in a game where you're 20 points behind than 20 points ahead, because we can rally people together to do what other people don't think we can do. If we're willing to make the tough decisions, but at the same time be humble enough to reach out for help and engage others, we can make strides where other people can't.

If you walk around the city of Newark today, you will see at least two dozen new parks all over the city that were built during this worst economic downturn. That's because we're bringing people together to do things other people can't do. Literally, the largest parks expansion our city has had in over a century has happened in the worst economy, because of all the partnerships that we've been bringing together.

That's how you have to get things done now. You have to find creative coalitions. We had a horrible spike in car-jackings in December. What we did was we brought together a state, Federal, local coalition, and we beat it back within weeks.

It was amazing. The law enforcement community in New Jersey rallied together in a way that left me humbled and inspired.

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Since he became mayor of Newark in 2006, Cory Booker has had to make cuts that previously seemed unthinkable. Under his watch, the city closed libraries, imposed furloughs on employees and, lat...
Since he became mayor of Newark in 2006, Cory Booker has had to make cuts that previously seemed unthinkable. Under his watch, the city closed libraries, imposed furloughs on employees and, lat...
 
 
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dbrett480
08:44 PM on 03/02/2011
Nothing good can come from a city laying off police officers. Vallejo, CA did and now it is a hooker's haven.
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Boston-liberal
11:39 AM on 02/25/2011
Ever since Hamilton proposed Assumption (the federal government assuming the debts of the states because they couldn't pay them) the states have dropped their people. When things get tough, the states lay-off 1000s, making the situation worse. Alas, neither Republican nor Democrat truly wishes to change it.
05:00 PM on 02/06/2011
What really gives rise to these situations are balanced budget requirements which tend to lead to spend what you have or lose it and leaves no room for savings. Just as with families it is important for governments to put aside for a future date when revenues decrease. It is important for elected officials to impress it upon its citizens that the goods and services they want represent costs and that these costs seldom go down and that their wants and desires need to be tempered by their future ability to pay for these wants,desires and needs during off times and this can only be intelligently covered by both savings and reserves and the attention to well thought out growth of said expenditures. This is not to say that times won't arise when cost/spending exceed revenues and decisions need to be made as to how to proceed which actually might include some deficit spending in the short run. There is a lot more to be said on this topic but for a later time.
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Peter007
04:45 PM on 02/06/2011
The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other peoples money.
01:53 AM on 02/07/2011
Frédéric Bastiat, the great nineteenth-century French economist, defined the State as “that great fiction by which everyone tries to live at the expense of everyone else.â€
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LibertyRoy
Listen up! I am a Libertarian, not a Republican!
03:04 PM on 02/06/2011
My views is, fully fund the schools, criminal justice system, general government... and cut everything else 100%. Across the board cuts are the worst idea because it pre-supposes that all government services are equally vital. They are not. Just like a smart business cuts entire sections of it's workforce and sheds segments of it's business when under threat, government should do the same.

In CA we have an 8,75% sales tax, and 11.3% income tax, a 2.25% home tax and we are still running deficits. Jerry Brown is going to out extending those taxes to a vote. Smart move! I guarantee he will discover that the people of California are for ONLY cuts to balance the budget.
01:53 AM on 02/07/2011
Businesses and the jobs they create are already voting with their feet and leaving CA. Obama is doing to the entire US business community what CA has done to its business community. We already see the future. Attempts to get business back on side will fail, just as sweet talk from politicians in CA failed to keeps its business community placated.
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Tom Langley
Successful Beer Guy
11:58 AM on 02/05/2011
Don't you all see? This is exactly what the moneychangers want. All our governing entities are so far in debt, that eventually, teh only way out will be to privatize government. Doesn't that sound exciting? How about we let Blackstone run the military, police, & fire. Fidelity can take over social security and United Health can take over medicare. Countrywide could run HUD, (oh, wait...). Goldman Sachs could take over the Treasury, (as if they didn't already own it). The US would begin to look very Orwellian. This is the future if we can't extricate our country from the control of Globalized Privatized Central banking. This is what your children need to prepare for. 2% of the people will be obscenely wealthy, the police, fire and military will take care of them, the rest of us will live underground, forced to survive on the effluent and offal of the wealthy, in constant fear, without any public services. Jobs will be very much like slavery. It's not that capitalists have anything against a freedom, they just want to reserve it to themselves while the unwashed masses slave away in their service.
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LibertyRoy
Listen up! I am a Libertarian, not a Republican!
03:06 PM on 02/06/2011
I think this is what government wants! Government has only grown the last 100 years and the more it grows, the worse we do. And sooner or later the so-called solution will be for government to print even more money and hand it to the states to bail them out, making slav.es of us all.
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cgin
05:32 PM on 02/04/2011
I believe the Mayor, as many around the country, has bought into the disingenuous conservative argument of false choices hook, line and sinker . The Mayor has apparently ascribed to the philosophy that depleting government budgets by offering tax cuts, loopholes, earmarks, subsidies, etc to the rich and Corporations in unprecedented levels is not in itself spending. This failed ideology of trickle down, which through the tax code takes from the middle class to give to the rich in order for it to trickle back down, continues to deplete the resources necessary to run a humane 21st century government. There are sufficient empirical evidence that indicates definitively that tax give away to the top 2% and to Corporations, native and foreign, plus two unfunded wars are as much the culprit for the large deficits as the recession has been. This new breed of gutless politicians rather than correcting that imbalance, they instead choose to punish the voiceless people that had nothing to do with the crisis. Hence, the disingenuous conservative argument of false choice between higher taxes for the middle class or obliterate government services. As the Conservatives might say: making government small enough to drown it in a bath tub.
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ibsteve2u
Someone who cares - to his unending regret
12:02 PM on 02/04/2011
As this happens more and more, do ya think the American people will begin to understand that the goal of those wealthy righties who have bought the Republicans is the elimination of our existing form of government?

lollll...people think that when some of us say that their goal is the replacement of the United States of America with a hereditary aristocracy of the wealthy lording it over great masses of the poor - that they seek to replace democracy with neo-feudalism wrapped in corporate armor - they think that we're exaggerating...

They think that we're resorting to hyperbole...that we're "leftists" who are attempting to emulate the right's tactic of using fear to get what they want. But we're not and we don't...we - I, at least - wish only to make the American people stop listening to the words of the right and instead pay attention to what they are doing...to what they have done.

Before it is too late.
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adamben
yes i said yes i will yes
10:42 AM on 02/04/2011
you go corey!
10:08 AM on 02/04/2011
Since Reagan we went from the largest importer of raw material and exporter of finished products, to the opposite, exporting coal and scrap metal/paper. Under socialists/communists (not) like Dwight Eisenhowert, Kennedy, Nixon, Ford and Carter, we saw top marginal tax rates of 90 down to 74%, yrt we had rich people, and decent jobs with decent benefits, a great and growing infrastructure that the world envied and a financial sector that actually worked as advertised; fudning industry and jobs for a reasonable profit. In 1980 the financial sector accouinted for 7% of all corporate profits, in 2007 they accounted for 42% of all corporate profits: how did that growth in wealtgh and power benefit our country/society? According to Reagan's budget director, David Stockman, the top 5% of Americans saw their combined wealth go from $8 trillion in 1985, to over $40 trillion in 2007. During that time we saw manufacturing almost disappear, median income drop (except under Clinton) after inflation and our infrastructure decay.

This was not socialism's fault, but the trading of sustainable policy for paying off the rich on the hope it would trickle down to us regular folks. It didn't work, so the Fox News, GOP, Koch brothers, John Burch Society response is to blame "socialists" and make things far worse.

Yay!!!
10:07 AM on 02/04/2011
It wasn't till Reagan cut taxes for the rich and raised them on everyone else, that deficits exploded. That allowed the top 1% to use their new-found wealth to buy the system (government, media and industry) to ensure their unfettered wealth vacuum coold suck up the decent jobs and send them to low-wage countries. Tearing down the trade tariffs allowed the flight to cheap wages, to countries like China, Japan and India who still have large tariffs and import limits so they don't take our exports, except raw materials.
10:07 AM on 02/04/2011
The "socialist" this and "socialist" that crowd is out in full force today. Like Pavlov's dog, the slobber catch phrases all over themselves whenever government issues come out. What was once a far fringe John Burch Society 'socialist under every rock" paranoia is now mainstream Republican/Tea Party dogma. William F. Buckley called the Jophn Burch Society too crazy for inclusion in the conservative movement, now they are sponsors of CPAC.

Sorry America haters, it isn't socialismm that has left us where we are, but Reagan conservatism. The national debt was below $1trillion when he came into office, it was over $3 trillion when Bush I too control and almost $5 trillion when Clinton won. He turned it into surplusses, and handed Bush II peace, prosperity and balanced cooks. Bush, in giving the country to his greedy benefactors, almost doubled the national debt, deregulated like Reagan on steroids and allowed them to walk away with trillions.
08:46 AM on 02/04/2011
Please call my governor J Brown to educate on budget cuts please..

"The problem with Socialism, sooner or later you run out of other peoples' money."

but, but, but,.. dont forget we can saddle our children with the debt.. Brilliant! I vote Yes!
09:01 AM on 02/04/2011
the states cant push it down the line anymore and are now faced with the reality of socialism. they suck money form the federal government, both Dem controlled and GOP-lite controlled, and now that cash register is out of funds.

all the cushy union contracts, overstaffing, & porkulus waste such as new stadiums for private pro team owners, that the major cities and states took on are now biting them in the tush.

state and municipal bankrupcy is the only way out at this point. dont be surprised that state constitutions will be changed this year to allow for that.
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peacekitten
primum non nocere.
07:02 PM on 02/05/2011
you don't pay attention to much do you?
08:33 AM on 02/04/2011
Newark’s situation is so complicated. A catch 22, really. There is money that goes into Newark, in terms of the arts and sports scene as well as some businesses. But you don’t see a lot of new people with money moving into Newark and investing in the neighborhoods. And it won’t happen any time soon, since there is so much crime and gang activity. Without money living in a community, and investing, the gangs will rule as the predominate method of gaining money and power. The same thing happened with Atlantic City. Money was invested in the casinos. Some people from the city did find work, but the neighborhoods outside of that area remain in poor shape. People would travel there, spend money in the casinos, and leave. No one with the money stayed and lived there. Asbury Park was a seriously decayed monument to days gone by. It has picked up and cleaned up, to a degree, because the gay community moved in, and invested their money in the community. There are still problems with gang activity, but not to the extent that Newark suffers. I don’t know what the answer is.
08:54 AM on 02/04/2011
question of the day

what political party has run the following cities for years

newark, asbury park, trenton, camden, atlantic city, elizabeth, irvington, union, jersey city
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Peter007
04:50 PM on 02/06/2011
The people that run Newark don't believe in freedom and free markets. They would be perfectly happy living in a socialist or communistic country. It is that simple. Its all about personal responsibility as opposed the the idea that " It takes a Village".
People in Newark are always looking for someone else to solve their problems.
08:08 AM on 02/04/2011
CB is awesome and a great motivator. He really makes me feel better when I read the hope he shares with his community.