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Minnesota Girl Scouts Sit Out Cookie Sales In Protest Over Camp Closures

STEVE KARNOWSKI   02/ 3/11 06:31 PM ET   AP

MINNEAPOLIS — A Minnesota Girl Scout council's decision to sell some of its camps has so upset one Scout that she and others in her troop plan to sit out the big annual cookie sale that starts Saturday.

Kim Zaiman, who leads a troop of 12 girls in the St. Paul suburb of Maplewood, said Thursday her 10-year-old daughter, Elizabeth, will sit out the sale along with some other troop members. The idea also is catching on among other members of the Girl Scouts of Minnesota and Wisconsin River Valleys council, Zaiman said, although she didn't know how many girls would end up refusing to sell Thin Mints, Samoas and similar treats. The situation was "changing by the hour," she said.

The girls were upset by the council's decision to get rid of four camps in Minnesota and Wisconsin. Many other councils have made similar, difficult decisions about selling camps in recent years, said Michelle Tompkins, national spokeswoman for Girl Scouts of the USA. While that often raises strong emotions, Tompkins said she's not aware of similar protests elsewhere this year.

The sales are partly the result of a national decision a few years ago to consolidate 312 local councils into 112 amid a gradual decline in members and tight funding, Tompkins said. Several councils decided they didn't need or couldn't afford as many properties as they ended up owing.

The River Valleys council has already transferred one camp to another council and sold another. Camp Greenwood near Buffalo is still up for sale, as is most of Camp Rolling Ridges in Hudson, Wis. A few sections of the Wisconsin camp were sold last year. Kim Zaiman helped organize a group to protest the sales, but its members were rebuffed last Saturday at the council's contentious annual meeting.

That led to her daughter's protest. Zaiman said her troop is sitting on about 3,500 boxes of cookies, many of which they may have to turn back in for other troops to sell. At least three or four other members will join Elizabeth in refusing to sell, her mother said.

"This was very difficult for my daughter to decide," Zaiman said. "She loves selling cookies . but she felt so strongly about this."

Elizabeth Zaiman, who's in her fifth year in Girl Scouts, said she has sold more than 600 boxes in each of the past two years, and she decided to protest this time because she doesn't want the money to go to her council.

"They are selling some of my favorite camps," she said.

The protest was first reported by the Star Tribune of Minneapolis.

Barbara Boelk, spokeswoman for the River Valleys council, said the camp sales will help ensure the best experiences possible to the 45,000 girls the council serves in southern Minnesota and western Wisconsin. While the council isn't losing money, it's had to cut its budget and may lose some United Way funding this spring. The council still has six other camps, she said.

"We're sorry some people aren't happy about it," Boelk said. "But this really is in the best interest of our girls."

Zaiman said the process for selling properties has been much more open elsewhere. A threatened cookie strike in Michigan a couple years ago was canceled after a council there became more open to talking, she said.

Just last month, the financially shaky Girl Scouts of Eastern South Carolina decided to sell four properties, including one camp. The council's chief executive, Loretta Graham, said many people are sad but there have been no protests.

Cookie sales provide crucial income for Girl Scout troops. National sales totaled $714 million in 2010 – about 198 million boxes – and about $415 million went to local councils, Tompkins said. Cookies provided the Rivers Valley council with $9.3 million last year, about two-thirds of its budget.

"Any threat to the Girl Scout cookie program is a direct threat to girls," Tompkins said.

Taylor McCanna, 16, of St. Louis Park, a Girl Scout for nine years, said she's sad a camp she attended has closed but she believes the River Valleys council made the right decision so future generations enjoy the same opportunities she's had. She said she sells about 250 boxes of cookies a year and will be out selling again this month.

"Girl Scouts has given me a community through my entire life," McCanna said. "It has given me many tools, many of the life skills that I still use today. It has given me connections and confidence. . . . It has given me a leg up in school and all aspects of my life."

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07:25 PM on 02/11/2011
Oh and I assumed before reading this article she was protesting when little Miss Girl Scout looked at the side of box of the Girl Scout cookies and read the list of non-organic ingredients . . . so many additives - "not in my cookie."
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01:48 PM on 02/10/2011
one might think that the girl scouts might be actually realizing that selling cookies is like pushing drugs--refined sugar. but no, just some political game about the plight of their camps regardless of the health issues surrounding cookies.
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02:00 PM on 02/07/2011
They need to sell those cookies so the Vikings can build a new stadium. We need priorities. My wife was in GS and was a leader. She will suck it up at 33yrs old and start selling.
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BlueZoo
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07:31 PM on 02/04/2011
Time to teach these young girls an excellent lesson a la Mick Jagger: "You Can't Always Get What You Want!"
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hagagaga
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08:29 AM on 02/08/2011
Even without trying, they just might find that they already have what they need.
04:31 PM on 02/04/2011
Camps for girls? Ridiculous. This land is needed to build mansions for the deserving, so that they can enjoy peace and quiet away from bawling girl scouts who have no camp-sites.
04:26 PM on 02/04/2011
I'm having more trouble every year with those cookies. Both my girls are in GS and I happily sold cookies at work, hundreds of boxes. It started a few years ago that it became difficult to return cookies that I could not sell. Last year and this year it has been impossible; the troop leader/cookiemom decided that you have to purchase all cookies in advance and sell them, and if you have leftovers it's up to you to sell those or eat the losses.
I've since stopped selling them. Maybe it's a problem with the troops we are in, but I've found the policies around those cookies to deteriorate to a point that I'm unwilling to put up with it.
04:23 PM on 02/24/2011
My daughter has been in girl scouts for 2 yrs in Ohio and I have been her leader and cookie mom both yrs. Our council has set down that policy. If you buy extras you can not return them. We were stuck with about $150 worth of cookies last year. The easiest thing to do is collect the money when you take the orders and then if you end up with left over cookies, at least you have the money for them. Also, we have things called cookie cupboards where you can go and get additional cookies. Kind of annoying, but that way you are never stuck with anything.
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02:44 PM on 02/04/2011
"This was very difficult for my daughter to decide," Zaiman said. "She loves selling cookies . but she felt so strongly about this." Who's the friggin' adult here??!! Clearly the child needs a lesson in basic economics (among other things), and this protest sends the wrong message of "It's OK to do nothing." What a miss!
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01:55 PM on 02/04/2011
GS cookies are made by the Little Brownie Bakers which is owned by Keebler which is owned by Kelloggs.

This year on the Island of Oahu in Hawaii they tried out a new program to sell cookies. The girls were given "Cookie Tickets", they are like plastice gift cards or credit cards that they sold and took the money right away. We sold the tickets from just after Thanksgiving to Christmas then the customers could start picking up the cookies from trucks at certain locations on the weekends in January. Already our troop is getting calls from people because they lost their tickets.
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02:15 PM on 02/04/2011
Not in all regions ABC Bakeries has taken over in Eastern MO. My daughter really did not want to sell this year and I doubt she'll join GS next year just does not like it anymore. People are getting tired of the constant barge of groups selling stuff.
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BlueKansas
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01:33 PM on 02/04/2011
I wish they'd find something else to sell. Those cookies are the most gagworthy excuses for "treats". I don't know what kind of mystery oils and plasticizers are in those things, but I wouldn't feed them to a rabid dog.
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05:15 PM on 02/04/2011
I don't care for any of those cookies either!
11:12 AM on 02/07/2011
Get out! Thin Mints & milk. Gone in Sixty Seconds!
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relians
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01:15 PM on 02/04/2011
i never buy girl scout cookies unless they are made with real girl scouts...
03:45 PM on 02/04/2011
ROFL....best comment here!!!!
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relians
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03:49 PM on 02/04/2011
i'm so glad you took it in the correct context, humor. i was waiting for the h8 comments...
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andthatsnotall
This is karma & yes she is...
03:54 PM on 02/04/2011
Have you tried the brownies? ... my bad...
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09:37 PM on 02/04/2011
Lol..from an-ex Brownie who got kicked out of Girl Scouts...
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Murphdogg
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12:37 PM on 02/04/2011
We had to give up Girl Scout cookies because we have a child with a peanut allergy. ALL the GS cookies are "made in factories that also process....". I will still mooch a few off people at work but I miss having my own stash.
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w84it
11:55 AM on 02/04/2011
When I read the short version of the headline, and since this article is posted under "food", I thought they were sitting out maybe becuase they want to sell a more healthy alternative...maybe?

Anyway, I picked up my thin mints and peanut butter cookies. The girl scout I bought them from should consider a career in corporate sales! No lack of confidence in that kid....
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BlueKansas
Stop calling us 'ordinary Americans'!
01:37 PM on 02/04/2011
I write them a check for five boxes and tell them to keep the cookies. They usually tell me they'll donate them to a food bank. I think the turning point for me and Girl Scout cookies was the first time I ate Walker's shortbread. Real shortbread. I had always thought Trefoils were shortbread, and to me, they tasted like sugary cardboard. So the GSA have a lot of nerve calling those hockey pucks "shortbread". If I'm going to eat something really unhealthy, it's going to be a cookie with ingredients I can pronounce.
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w84it
02:00 PM on 02/04/2011
Haha! Love it!

I'll have to try Walker's.
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andthatsnotall
This is karma & yes she is...
04:00 PM on 02/04/2011
My grandparents came over on the boat from Scotland (my mom's folks) and my nana always made 4 things. Lemon curd, scones, oat cakes and shortbread which consisted of white sugar, white flour and butter. Flaky and crumbly and utterly delicious!
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ongomania
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11:16 AM on 02/04/2011
Being scrubbed for a benign comment on Girl Scout cookies ranks
among highest lowpoints of posting here. What stick in the muds!
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andthatsnotall
This is karma & yes she is...
04:02 PM on 02/04/2011
Depending on the thread I've been erased for only saying "yes", "I agree" and "2x".
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ongomania
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06:07 PM on 02/04/2011
Guess I'm guilty then of tolerating unbearably boring threads (but
I'm still going to buy a boat load of them 'lemon cookie thingees).
AgingLady
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11:14 AM on 02/04/2011
Hey Scouts, you go. Nice to discover your voice at a young age. There are many things happening in your lives. Keep a sharp eye on things and keep talking. We do not always get what we want or what we work for (darn) but keeping after things is good. Stay strong.
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cybolt
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10:22 AM on 02/04/2011
Learn a little about the world by selling these cookies.
Learn a lot more by NOT selling them!

LOVE IT!
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12:32 PM on 02/04/2011
Nicely said.