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Arizona Lawmakers Mull Bill Challenging Birthright Citizenship

Arizona Birthright Citizenship Bill

JACQUES BILLEAUD   02/ 7/11 08:36 PM ET   AP

PHOENIX — The Arizona lawmaker who proposed a challenge to automatic U.S. citizenship for children of illegal immigrants called off a scheduled vote on his measure Monday because he didn't have enough votes to get it out of committee.

But Republican Sen. Ron Gould of Lake Havasu City said he doesn't believe his bill is dead. Calling off a vote in committee doesn't prevent lawmakers from bringing up their proposals for a vote again.

Gould hopes the measure would prompt a court interpretation on an element of the 14th Amendment, which guarantees citizenship to people born in the U.S. who are "subject to the jurisdiction" of this country. Supporters of the bill the amendment doesn't apply to the children of illegal immigrants because such families don't owe sole allegiance to the U.S.

The bill's sponsors say the goal is to force a court to rule that a child born in the U.S. is a citizen only if either parent is a U.S. citizen or a legal immigrant. Similar proposals have been introduced by lawmakers in Indiana, Mississippi, Texas, Oklahoma and South Dakota. The South Dakota measure was rejected by a committee Monday.

An accompanying proposal is an interstate compact that defines who is a U.S. citizen and asks states to issue separate birth certificates for those who are U.S. citizens and those who are not. Such a compact would have to be approved by Congress, but they do not require the president's signature.

Opponents of the bill – and constitutional scholars – predict such state efforts will be declared unconstitutional. Opponents say the proposal is mean-spirited toward immigrants and won't make a dent in the state's immigration woes.

The Arizona Senate judiciary committee heard three hours of testimony from legal scholars, immigrant rights activists and business lobbyists on Monday.

"Even though this law may not affect me, it will affect the people around me," said Heidi Portugal, a 12-year-old who said she is a U.S. citizen but that her parents aren't.

Two Democratic lawmakers and one Republican legislator raised skeptical questions about the bill.

"I want to know what allegiance means," said Republican Rep. Adam Driggs of Phoenix, an attorney who has expertise in immigration law. Driggs, who described himself as a conservative Republican, expressed skepticism about how the proposal would be carried out by state government.

John Eastman, professor at Chapman University's law school in Orange, Calif., said automatic citizenship remains an open question for the U.S. Supreme Court. He believes this proposal would provide a chance for court to say that merely being born in the United States doesn't entitle a person citizenship. "The Supreme Court has never decided this issue," Eastman said.

Immigrant rights advocate Sal Reza, an opponent of the bill, said many children would be left in limbo if the measure were enacted and enforced. "Do the right thing: Become human beings," Reza told lawmakers.

Last year, lawmakers passed a bill to draw local police deeper into the fight against illegal immigration. The most controversial parts of that law were put on hold by a federal judge.

In previous years, the state has passed laws denying government benefits to illegal immigrants, denying bail to immigrants arrested for serious crimes, and creating the state crime of immigration smuggling.

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02:03 AM on 02/09/2011
The jurisdiction provision in the 14th Amendment was meant to prevent the children of foreign ambassadors and ministers stationed in the US from becoming citizens.

It is ridiculous to think that the people who wrote the 14th Amendment were directly thinking about undocumented workers -- just a few years before, the US was actively encouraging its own people to illegally settle in Mexican and Canadian territory.

The only way to sensibly apply the 14th Amendment to the current situation with undocumented workers is to look at the spirit of the Amendment: it was designed to prevent an underclass of laborers whose toils contributed and built the nation from being denied citizenship and civil rights. It was a recognition that it was morally wrong to let these people work for the nation and then to deny them citizenship. That's a pretty clear and humane principle -- it applied to former slaves then and it should apply to undocumented workers today.
04:52 PM on 02/10/2011
It was a recognitio­n that it was morally wrong to let these people work for the nation and then to deny them citizenshi­p.

I would agree with you only to the point, those workers were legally on the country and not a diplomat. In the case of the United States v. Wong Kim Ark, They were Chinese nationals, but legally had the right to work and be here. Illegal immigrants that cross our border and have children are not.
Tim Paynter
Activist, attorney, humano!
06:28 PM on 02/08/2011
Why law makers want to pass more laws they know are heading to court while they refuse services to citizens is beyond me. More, if they are successful, the poor cats who get caught on this will have no country...they won't be deportable! They won't be citizens of the US and they won't be citizens of their parent's country. It is a foolish solution designed to gain headlines while tax payers suffer! This is a review of a film about civil disobedience, I think we need to ramp it up in Arizona! http://blogcritics.org/video/article/dvd-review-fierce-light-when-spirit/
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Americanium
Liberal nut
05:40 PM on 02/08/2011
No sane politician would want to be a State official in Arizona.,. that bankrupt backward State should be made into the official nuclear waste dump...
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Americanium
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05:28 PM on 02/08/2011
Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
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OneFish
Various and assorted mutualistic microbial buddies
12:45 PM on 02/08/2011
Seems to me a child should inherit the highest immigration status held by either of the parents regardless of where that child is born. End of problem.

1) Citizen
2) Green Card
3) Visa Holder
4) Illegal
09:34 PM on 02/08/2011
The USA Constitution says otherwise.
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OneFish
Various and assorted mutualistic microbial buddies
03:50 PM on 02/09/2011
I understand that full well but the Constitution can be amended. My approach would remove some incentives while still being perfectly fair.
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Just-a-Guy
12:14 PM on 02/08/2011
Why should Federal Law trump State Law in Arizona?

In California, we've got sanctuary ordinances that go directly against Federal Law. Seems to be just the opposite out here.

Can somebody explain the logic on that one to me?
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Ragnar Danneskjold
Defender of Liberty
12:47 PM on 02/08/2011
Liberals don;t follow laws they don't like and make up reasons why they trump the Feds.
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p456
Walking Tall.
01:13 PM on 02/08/2011
When are all of you confederate flag waiving dixipublicans going to give it up.
12:49 PM on 02/08/2011
If you get a reasonable explanation (or any explanation), I will be surprised.
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Just-a-Guy
01:55 PM on 02/08/2011
I'm patient. ;)
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11:35 AM on 02/08/2011
I thought Arizona would finally get serious about illegal immigration and start jailing employers that hire them.
11:53 AM on 02/08/2011
They tried to implement and were stopped by the government.
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12:02 PM on 02/08/2011
"the government"

Now what "government" would that be?
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DaneAZ
Trapeze Artist
01:28 PM on 02/08/2011
No, I'm pretty sure that was not implemented because the business owners whined and cried to the STATE government. And because white people's money was involved the STATE government gave in.
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11:22 AM on 02/08/2011
How do these people get elected to office?
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azcamp
11:14 AM on 02/08/2011
If Arizona state lawmakers think that they should have more power that the Feds, the first thing they should do is recall Senators Kyl and McCain and the rest of the Arizona congressional delegation. Give those seats to states that understand the importance of federal laws and the U.S. Constitution.
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Al91206
Educating the right on why they are wrong.
10:27 AM on 02/08/2011
Arizona state song, "anyone you can hate I can hate better, I can hate everyone better than you"
12:56 PM on 02/08/2011
In relation to you singing Kumbyah and covering your ears ?
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dwedge
Old Millennium
09:25 AM on 02/08/2011
It's imperative that Arizona lawmakers concentrate on debating this bill. Otherwise, they would have to start dealing with Arizona's fiscal problems.
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DaneAZ
Trapeze Artist
01:29 PM on 02/08/2011
BINGO!
09:14 AM on 02/08/2011
Keep up the BOYCOTT.
12:57 PM on 02/08/2011
I'll call your boycott, and up you two trips to Arizona !

Stooge !
09:17 AM on 02/09/2011
Dark Keep up the Boycott.
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exflatlander
08:45 AM on 02/08/2011
Great! We'll disenfranchise all second generation Americans. I wonder how many of us would be left?
09:30 AM on 02/08/2011
At least that would rid the state of Sheriff Joe Arpaio!
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Cacey
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08:26 AM on 02/08/2011
A large percentage of the population is not old enough to remember the days when the President sent in the National Guard to various states in the South to enforce national law.  It may be time for this President to send in the troops to enforce federal law in Arizona.  This propose law is clearly unconstitutional and an attempt to subvert the laws of the land.
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Just-a-Guy
12:15 PM on 02/08/2011
Can we get him to come to California and enforce Federal Law too? ;)
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DaneAZ
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01:31 PM on 02/08/2011
He does.
It's called Jailing medical Marijuana Growers and Vendors who were deemed legal by the state of California.
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jweider
I know where my towel is
07:23 PM on 02/08/2011
Good idea.
Obama should send the National Guard to Arizona to secure the border and then round up and deport all of the illegal aliens living in the state.
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08:17 AM on 02/08/2011
Instead of dealing with the very real economic collapse of their state the AZ legislature is still chasing windmills. Maybe they don't read so well and can't figure out that states are specifically prohibited from abridging the rights of U.S. citizens or denying due process to all people.
09:28 AM on 02/08/2011
To cut the state budget the Governor has released the mentally ill from institutions and is housing them in the state legislature.
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azcamp
10:53 AM on 02/08/2011
Sums it up nicely.