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Tax Cut Proposals On State Level No Guarantee For Jobs

BETH FOUHY   02/13/11 12:47 AM ET   AP

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NEW YORK — It's recently become an article of faith for many governors as they try to attract jobs: raising taxes during a recession is a nonstarter, choking off growth and damaging a state's fragile economic recovery.

With the notable exception of Illinois, where Democratic Gov. Pat Quinn last month signed a 66 percent temporary personal income tax increase and a separate corporate rate hike to help close a $15 billion budget gap, governors this year are mostly vowing to cut regulations and hold the line on taxes to attract employers and rebuild after a brutal recession.

"We ... hope that every bill you consider passing will be viewed through the lens of its impact on our economic growth," Colorado Democratic Gov. John Hickenlooper told lawmakers in his State of the State address, sounding a theme many governors share. "This doesn't mean we compromise our standards or put our land, air or water at risk, but it does mean that we'll keep a fierce and even relentless focus on jobs."

Whether they can hold to that promise will become clearer in the coming months as governors release their new budget proposals.

But there's a catch to the anti-tax, pro-business rhetoric: Businesses consider a range of factors when deciding where to locate, including the quality of schools, roads and programs that rely on a certain level of public spending and regulation. And evidence suggests there is little correlation between a state's tax rate and its overall economic health.

"Concerns about taxes are overstated," said Matt Murray, a professor of economics at the University of Tennessee who studies state finance. "Labor costs, K-12 education and infrastructure availability are all part of a good business climate. And you can't have those without some degree of taxation."

States' tax rates also do not predict their resilience during an economic downturn.

While high-tax states such as New York, New Jersey and California have been clobbered by the current recession, so too have states that pride themselves on low tax rates, including Nevada, Texas and Arizona. The collapse of the housing market and the financial industry meltdown largely drove the current conditions, sparing almost no state regardless of its level of taxes.

Governors agree this is a particularly challenging budget year, with federal stimulus dollars drying up after years of deep state budget cuts. Some 34 states raised taxes or fees as recently as 2009 to help close budget shortfalls.

Now, chief executives from both parties mostly have little appetite for new tax measures after Republicans successfully ran on tax issues last fall – they now control 29 governorships – and President Obama and Senate Republican leaders teamed up to extend Bush-era tax cuts, even for the wealthiest Americans.

Illinois' big tax hike is considered an anomaly – an emergency measure that includes strict spending limits to close a budget hole that is the largest of any state as a percentage of its overall budget.

Neighboring states such as Wisconsin quickly pounced, urging businesses to relocate from Illinois even though its tax rate remains lower than those of many states in the region.

Meanwhile some other governors have opened the door to potential tax increases, insisting the measures are necessary to offset fiscal calamity.

In California, Democratic Gov. Jerry Brown has been promoting a package of temporary tax increases as a ballot measure for voters to consider, while also proposing deep cuts to higher education and social services.

Two newly installed New England governors – Connecticut's Dan Malloy and Rhode Island's Lincoln Chafee – have told state residents to expect some taxes to go up. Most are pairing their tax increase proposals with targeted spending cuts and promises of fiscal discipline over the long term.

To be sure, several governors, including Republican Chris Christie of New Jersey and Democrat Andrew Cuomo of New York, say they have sworn off tax increases. Some other governors – such as newly sworn-in Republicans John Kasich of Ohio and Rick Scott of Florida – say they plan to cut taxes even as they try to bring their budgets into balance. Scott wants to reduce the Sunshine State's corporate income tax despite the fact that Florida faces a projected budget gap next fiscal year of at least $3.5 billion; the corporate income tax now generates about $2 billion a year.

Other governors, despite tight budgets, want to boost spending on economic development projects to bring jobs to their states.

In Nebraska, Republican Gov. Dave Heineman has proposed a $16.5 million initiative aimed at attracting jobs while saying he will not raise taxes. The money would be spent on several measures, including an internship program pairing graduates of Nebraska universities with state-based companies, and a fund offering start-up cash and technical assistance to small businesses.

In an interview, Heineman said his state must spend money on education and job programs to attract economic development.

"We're competing for jobs with other states and other countries, and I'm trying to do it in a healthy and positive way," Heineman said. "The only way I can compete is to have a better tax and regulatory climate, but education and a quality work force are also key to that."

Kansas Republican Gov. Sam Brownback is requesting $105 million for universities in his state to do targeted research in the areas of animal health, cancer and aviation. Virginia Republican Gov. Bob McDonnell has proposed a $54 million jobs initiative for the state to compete more aggressively against neighbors North Carolina and Maryland.

The quality of a state's labor market is another significant factor for businesses as they choose where to locate, in some cases mitigating the level of taxes they will have to pay.

"As much as Nevada talks about getting California business because of their low taxes, their population would need a substantial amount of retooling," said Kim Reuben, a senior fellow at the Tax Policy Center in Washington. "Nevada has survived largely on growth, a place where people without much education could get relatively good jobs in construction and casinos. California is a place that has great intellectual institutions and will always attract talent and overcome its taxes."

But Kail Padgitt, an economist with the conservative Tax Foundation, said a state's tax burden might not have affected its performance during the recession but certainly will affect the pace of its recovery.

"When the economy starts to pick up, that's where you're going to see more the impact of taxes," Padgitt said. "Where businesses are going to expand operations, where new investments are going to be made – a lot of these companies want to know what their taxes are going to be."

How much the lure of lower taxes acts as an incentive for businesses seeking to relocate or expand remains an open question.

In late 2008 and early 2009, California lawmakers and then-Republican Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger approved a series of corporate tax breaks that was estimated to save businesses about $1.3 billion a year. At the time, Schwarzenegger and GOP lawmakers promoted the tax cuts and credits as a way to create jobs, but there is little evidence they have done so.

California's unemployment rate rose in December to 12.5 percent and has remained above 12 percent for a year and a half. The questionable connection between corporate tax policy and job creation prompted a Democratic state lawmaker to call for legislation that would force companies to prove they were using tax breaks to boost employment.

"The bill is not to deny them those tax credits. I want to give them those tax credits because they make a rather credible argument why they need them," state Sen. Leland Yee said. "All I'm asking is for them to prove it."

Associated Press writer Don Thompson in Sacramento contributed to this report.

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04:13 PM on 03/04/2011
Think that bald-headed dude realizes that he looks like a ch ild mo les tor? Since it seems like a deliberately cultivated look, you have to figure that such was what he was going for, don't you?
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dbrett480
07:06 PM on 02/15/2011
If states want to balance the budgets the first thing that needs to be cut is the community redevelopment agencies. These are a slush fund for politically connected developers.
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Scott Zwartz
03:15 PM on 02/15/2011
Gov Brown has the right ideas. California gives literally billions of tax dollars to corrupt developers via is CRA's, which Brown proposes to abolish. California is broke because the prior establishment was corrupt and incompetent.

One example, Council Prez Garcetti and his best Bro, Councilman LaBonge, supported Prop 22 which took about $1 B from schools and gave it to real estate speculators! Maybe we would not be broke if LaBonge did not give away tax dollars.

While LaBonge has been on the city council more than $1.5 Billion of Los Angeles property tax dollars have been diverted into the CRA/LA's slush fund for real estate speculators. Los Angeles and Oakland have the worse schools in the State and California is 48th in education and the USA is about 27th in education. Our atrocious schools, which Labonge and others loot for cash to give to developers, are the major reason employers do not want to locate in L.A.

High tech employers need educated workers and they will not find them in L.A. That's why they go to Hong Kong and Singapore. BTW both Hong Kong and Singapore are more livable as their per sq. mile population density is 18,500 while Central Hollywood's ppl/per/mi density is already 22,000. Employer do not want to locate to an excessively dense city with an uneducated worker force. You can thank Garcetti, and his buddies on the City Council like LaBonge, for this mess.
10:11 AM on 02/15/2011
Here in Florida gov. Scott plans to balance the budget by cutting taxes on corporations, cutting property taxes mostly for the wealthy and cutting services for the poor....Jesus would love him...NOT.
05:01 AM on 02/15/2011
these two in the photo should be holding up their id number while being booked and photographed...get their finger prints.. there is a crime scene soon in the makin..
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TBrennan
06:24 PM on 02/14/2011
Where is the evidence that cutting taxes creates jobs? Bush tried it for 8 years and his record of job creation was the worst in modern history. Conversely, where is the evidence that raising taxes kills jobs? Bush Sr. raised taxes and had a better record of job creation than his son. I do not believe the correlation between taxes and jobs is nearly as close as debt adverse republicans would have us believe. We need to cut spending AND increase revenues. Tea Baggers only see one side of the ledger.
10:12 AM on 02/15/2011
I'LL bet you don't believe eating a half gallon of icecream 3 times a day can help you take off weight either!
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TBrennan
10:22 AM on 02/15/2011
What are you talking about? You're right, I don't believe eating ice cream 3 times a day can help you take off weight.

I'll make a bet like you. I'll bet you didn't get very good grades in Economics class.
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TheAntitheist
Four legs Good
08:50 PM on 03/09/2011
You must be hungry and slept through Economics.
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Scott Zwartz
03:20 PM on 02/15/2011
You are right. The federal government is supposed to employ sound Fiscal Policy, but a State's ability to have its own Fiscal Policy is limited.

When you cut spending like Los Angeles has done, you end up with terrible infra-structure, e.g. the worst streets in the nation, increasingly crowded neighborhoods as the CRA promotes more and more tenements. Businesses avoid places with terrible infra-structure.

Our population is poorly educated because we give billions of dollars to real estate speculators, and employers want to locate where the population is educated and motivated.
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Eris23Skidoo
Dischordian Keynesian
02:24 PM on 02/14/2011
Of course tax cuts don't create jobs. Duh. They never have and they never will.
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68Namvet
Sioux, French, German, Jew, American mutt
02:34 PM on 02/14/2011
Correct - as I've stated before: Most people simply do not understand business and taxes. While it's true that poor people do not create jobs, neither do the wealthy. Most jobs are created by businesses and ALWAYS have a single reason behind their creation - production of products and/or services for the purpose of securing a PROFIT.(and there is nothing wrong with PROFITS when earned legally)
If the business in question can produce their products or provide their services with less people, thereby cut expenses and increase profits - THEY WILL.
If the business in question cannot produce their products or provide their services with the personnel they have, and need to add employees, THEY WILL.
Taxes, raised or cut, will play almost ZERO percent in these decisions. Raises in taxes are simply passed on to the consumers in increased prices to maintain profitability. Cuts in taxes are simply added to the bottom line in the form of increased profits.
So, if you cut the taxes of a business there will not be a job created that is not required by the conduct of the business - NO ONE hires people they DO NOT NEED to conduct their business.
Similarly, the wealthy DO NOT invest in businesses to create jobs. They invest to create profits - and more likely than not - more profits will be obtained by cutting jobs than increasing them.

If you do not understand these simple principles - you do not understand capitalism.
06:10 PM on 02/14/2011
Diffidently, I would like to raise a question and then a cpl of points.First, do you run a business ? Taxes are a cost in my business.Raising costs decreases profits and functions in all of my decisions.Why would you think it wouldn't
And, capitalizing letters doesn't make one's arguments more cogent. I often wonder why so many of you do it.
Secondly, cutting taxes may be a necessary but not sufficient part of making a profit.Still the converse is always true .Raising taxes decreases profits.
Finally ,a point..If cutting jobs create more profits,why not decrease employees to zero.By your logic, fewer employees is beneficial , so zero is optimal.
I really wonder at your education.As the British say, "I wonder greatly."
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JFoxCPT
02:21 PM on 02/14/2011
Rick Scott is a greed-infested criminal and liar who is about one thing enriching himself and other wealthy people. It's sad and a bit scary that the people of Florida would elect this crook from the bottom of the barrel.
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Eris23Skidoo
Dischordian Keynesian
02:24 PM on 02/14/2011
This is the same state that elected a Bush for governor.
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TheAntitheist
Four legs Good
08:51 PM on 03/09/2011
Jeb though...The "smart" one
03:45 PM on 02/14/2011
I live in Florida and Scott only won by a few thousand votes. He wants to cut everything while promising the moon. If Florida survives the next 4 years it'll be a miracle.
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TheAntitheist
Four legs Good
08:51 PM on 03/09/2011
Fanned and Faved. Only Zeus himself can save us now.
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mmsuki
Fine; I evolved, you didn't.
02:15 PM on 02/14/2011
Didn't you all love the way Rick Perry and the righties crowed endlessly about how Texas had balanced its budget last year, and it was then revealed that federal stimulus money was used?

Now, Texas is in the hole like everyone else, and the right is silent.
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BBackSoon
Hello, I must be going.
01:45 PM on 02/14/2011
This reminds me of a guy I knew that always had a girlfriend and a second 'Other' girl in the wings, When the Girlfriend found out about the 'Other' girl she would leave and the 'Other' became the Girlfriend. And these Girlfriends were always so Shocked that a proven cheater would cheat on them.

This is how I view this 'Come to our state and we will give you this sweet deal' mentality. In a few years when the business gets an even better deal in another state, The Sweet deal state will be shocked that the business will dump them so easily. And all the while the Businesses get to pay little in taxes, have municipal improvements made for their benefit, such as stop lights, turn lanes and zoning changes for the promise of minimum wage jobs, no matter where they go.
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SUPPERMAN
01:25 PM on 02/14/2011
In Florida we have this bald teapary clown that should be in prison running things, wish us luck America! We'll will need it in the sunshine state!
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getsit
good morning, I'm here
01:28 PM on 02/14/2011
At least he was openly corrupt, unlike many other politicians. LOL

I'm sorry. We have Jerry Brown is our state. He's the opposite of corrupt. We know him well.
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7dr361
USAF VETERAN Older Than Dirt
01:46 PM on 02/14/2011
Good luck Jerry on working through the mess. If anyone can do it you can. (I)
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7dr361
USAF VETERAN Older Than Dirt
01:47 PM on 02/14/2011
Impeach the gov
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getsit
good morning, I'm here
01:24 PM on 02/14/2011
As I've said in my posts before, education and infrastructure are valuable resources for all businesses but especially big corporations. So wouldn't you think they'd be eager to pay their fair share to keep those resources in a healthy state?

Nope.

Tax cuts, especially to the wealthy, have proven over and over again NOT to stimulate job growth. Those last 10 years of Bush tax cuts have done just the opposite. Depressed the economy so severely that when the housing bubble burst it couldn't be dealt with without severe hits to the middleclass and poor who have lost ground these last 10 years. In reverse the rich have gotten richer.
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Eris23Skidoo
Dischordian Keynesian
02:29 PM on 02/14/2011
The rich getting richer is the whole point of republican governance.
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T4
Entreprenuer and financial consultant
01:09 PM on 02/14/2011
taxes are the big PR boogeyman BUT hey are not the financial indrastructure issue that needs to be dealt with. Neither are going aftre specific programs in general. The chief iissue is rampant state spenidng on theirown employees. Unbalanced and exorbitant at all levels of govt., low contrubtion levels to health and pensions plans - these arethe econ bubble that is breaking the back of the state. Much as the same os the auto industry with it's unions contracts that embedded pension and health benefits - hopingthat tomorrow the bubble would disappear - they decleared bankruptcy. THIS is the issue for states to face - to fail is the more than the equivalent of the Obama total complete and uttter failure - there's no buying off the banks to disguise the house of cards and then finding they don;t care if the country collapses.
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Eris23Skidoo
Dischordian Keynesian
02:32 PM on 02/14/2011
Well, maybe if the red states would pay their own way instead of having low, low taxes while letting the blue states pick up the tab. See in blue states they have high taxes and produce a surplus. This surplus winds up in the federal govt who then transfers that money to the bankrupted low-tax red states who could have avoided bankruptcy by raising taxes. How many hours do I have to work in order to pay for a massive tax cut for a red-state gazillionaire?
05:08 PM on 02/14/2011
Your ignorance on the subject is astonding.

States can only be taxed proportionately, this is a constitutional requirement.

Those red states tend to have lower populations, wages, and increased numbers of rural areas.

They pay less into taxes because of a constitutional require that states are taxed proportionately.

Red states have more african americans than northern states and more rural areas.
Laws requiring money to be spent on these areas, as well as laws granting tax credits to these groups results in the "Red States" taking in more than they pay.

It is simple math and you seem to not be able to grasp that.
05:08 PM on 02/14/2011
astounding*
01:03 PM on 02/14/2011
What ever happened to the flat tax theory? That will solve many of the problems. Also, I agree with 69NamVet. Bring home the troops we have in other countries. Heck, we can put them on the borders to solve the immigration problem. Then we cut the defense budget and all is good.
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Eris23Skidoo
Dischordian Keynesian
02:33 PM on 02/14/2011
A flat tax is regressive to the nines. But hey, I guess its fair if you think rich businessmen shouldn't have to contribute to the infrastructure that allows them to be successful.