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Man Claims Comic Sam Kinison Fathered Ex's Child

Sam Kinison

ANTHONY McCARTNEY   02/17/11 11:09 PM ET   AP

LOS ANGELES — A longtime friend of Sam Kinison said Thursday that he recently obtained DNA testing that shows the late comedian fathered a daughter with his ex-wife and that he hopes the revelation will free him from years of unpaid child support penalties.

Comic Carl La Bove filed a petition Thursday to try to invalidate a nearly 13-year-old agreement requiring him to make payments for the girl, who is now 21 years old. As of 2009, La Bove owed nearly $188,000 in back child support, according to a statement filed with his petition.

The debt has left La Bove without a driver's license, a passport and shoddy credit, he said.

But he said any animosity he felt toward Kinison for sleeping with his now ex-wife during Kinison's hard-charging heyday in the late 1980s is gone.

"I learned to forgive him for his actions," La Bove said outside a downtown Los Angeles courthouse Thursday.

A comedian who opened for Kinison for years and was with him when he died in a car accident in California in 1992, La Bove is hoping that the release of child support obligations will allow him to drive himself to gigs from now on.

Success is not guaranteed, said Michael McCormick, executive director of the American Coalition for Fathers & Children, which is aiding La Bove in his case. The 52-year-old comic will have to show that he was coerced into signing the 1998 agreement.

In his court filings, he claims he was not fully informed of his rights before signing the agreement. In an interview, he said that his divorce from his ex-wife took six years and that his attorney never suggested he challenge the paternity of the child, even though his then-wife had told him that Kinison was the girl's dad.

Kinison's brother, Bill, took a DNA test that showed the likelihood that his famous brother was the young woman's father. He said Thursday evening that while he had never met her, there were indications that the brash comic was her father.

"She looks like she'd be Sam's daughter," Bill Kinison said.

He noted that his brother and La Bove both had lifestyles akin to rock stars during his lifetime.

"Sam and Carl lived a lifestyle that was pretty promiscuous," Bill Kinison said.

He also acknowledged large hurdles that La Bove will face in trying to get his name cleared, although he said he understood why he was doing it.

"I'd want to get that off me too," he said.

McCormick said La Bove's fight should be aided by a 2004 California appellate court ruling that states the government should correct mistakes in child support actions and "minimize the harm and correct any injustice to that person."

Despite all that, La Bove's prospects for success are unclear, McCormick said. "He's really in legal limbo."

A hearing on La Bove's petition is scheduled for March 29.

La Bove said he has a good relationship with the young woman who is likely Kinison's daughter. He said it wasn't until she showed up at one of his performances three years ago that he had an opportunity to try to set the record straight on who her father was.

"She wants me to have my life back," La Bove said. "She is my best friend's daughter."

DNA testing submitted to the court Thursday shows La Bove has a zero percent probability of being her father. Additional tests done using samples from Kinison's two brothers, one of whom is now dead, show a 99.8 percent chance that she is related to them.

La Bove said he hopes that the woman, who declined comment Thursday, will one day be able to benefit from the late comic's estate. It is controlled by Bill Kinison, who La Bove accused Thursday of forging estate planning documents and providing him with an attorney who coerced him into signing a 1998 agreement requiring him to make child support payments.

"His attorney had an interest in not representing him zealously," McCormick said.

Bill Kinison denied La Bove's accusations. "There's no validity to that," he said.

"Why would I get him an attorney period, if I was going to keep anything hidden?" he said, also asking why he would take a DNA test years later.

La Bove said DNA testing was never considered during his divorce, even though for years he said he had been told that Kinison was the girl's father, not him.

The revelation, along with the loss of Kinison, sent La Bove spiraling for several years, he said. He attempted suicide, and he drank heavily.

"Alcohol was the only way to get through my shows," he said.

Bill Kinison said La Bove refused DNA testing at the time and other measures recommended by the attorney.

He also said his late brother died a million dollars in debt and the estate makes only modest earnings now. "We barely keep it solvent," Bill Kinison said. He said a biopic on Sam Kinison has been contemplated for more than a decade, but he doesn't know if it will ever be made.

The paternity testing and the prospect of having the child support debts erased have given La Bove hope that he'll be healed completely.

"The stage is the only place I have my freedoms," he said.

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MikeDu
Both salubrious and lugubrious concurrently.
02:04 AM on 02/21/2011
All of our origins are more-or less obscure, If your wife was your wife when the kid was born then the kid's your kid. Unless you consider yourself little more than 'breeding stock' with no more intimate connection that a prize boor mated to a sow.
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Spartan112
SPARTANS!? What is your profession?
07:57 AM on 02/21/2011
That's bunk. If she broke the marriage vow then the kid is hers, not his.
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amd02148
06:59 PM on 02/21/2011
Spartan any child born in a marriage is the husbands child, period.
makemesmile
it makes you wonder
11:54 AM on 02/20/2011
In my opinion, screaming, hollering Sam Kinison was not funny at all. It's not fair for men to pay child support for children that are not their biological children. It might be a different situation if a couple adopts a child together and later on the couple ends their relationship. In this case both parents should be responsible for child support of the minor child.
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WorkhelpWorkhelp
Control your money locally. Charter banks now.
10:58 PM on 02/20/2011
Sam was GREAT.
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MikeDu
Both salubrious and lugubrious concurrently.
02:06 AM on 02/21/2011
He was great if you were an angst-filled fifteen year old stoner.
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Rik Little
experienced American artist
12:36 PM on 02/19/2011
"child support' is a criminal racketeering multi billion dollar business set up by manhating child abusing radical feminists alignment with American Bar Association unbridled greed in every state and county in the nation. It is soon to be fully eposed for what it really is. See leonkoziol.com for the NYS civil rights class action lawsuit. Governments always use the children to push their agendas and the agenda in American is to fracture the two parent family and keep the 'child support' racketeering business going for the government. They take your drivers license away when you 'fall into arrears". The States (counties) really don't care and continue to order as much 'child support' as they can because they get Federal 'incentives' for every penny they order. The criminalizing of the father/obligator is a handsome multi billion dollar side business in itself. Yesterday I saw them convict the Lazern County PA "cash for kids" judge in Scranton Federal Court. So maybe the feds will begin to stop the 'domestic relations law' criminal enterprises called "child support' and 'domestic violence against women' industries and perhaps give justice to Sam Kinisons best friend.
02:25 PM on 02/19/2011
Don't know who you are, but DANG, you're getting it correct. Our children were old enough I didn't have to pay, but I'm fighting this battle of INjustice in "family" court with you. Notice THIS...A component of our efforts to reform child support includes working on laws which affect men who are paying child support for non-biologically related children. Comedian Carl LaBove is one of those men. Carl was best friend and opening act for legendary comic Sam Kinison. Yesterday in Los Angeles, Carl filed papers calling for his release from over $188,000 in child support arrears and obligations for a child that newly released DNA testing proves is not Carl's, but Sam Kinison's.

At this point the story is gaining national attention with over 200 media outlets currently carrying the news.

You can read the ACFC press release on this case here.

Read the story that is being carried by news outlets around the nation here.
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amd02148
07:00 PM on 02/21/2011
Bitter much Rik?
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Rik Little
experienced American artist
03:43 PM on 02/22/2011
I never bit her amd02148. Are you completely uninformed about this issue?
11:22 AM on 02/19/2011
He sounds like a laugh riot.
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10:22 PM on 02/18/2011
Does she do a show ?
09:51 PM on 02/18/2011
OH OH OOOOOHHHHHH!
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tenzenz
Save the Nation Boil a Tea Bag
09:27 PM on 02/18/2011
When Justice is proven Wrong, then it's Wrong, and it needs to be corrected, when the proof is available to do so. And guess what Bill, the estate of the late great Sam Kinison, now belongs to his daughter. Although, I thought Sam was married at the time of his death, and wonder why his wife is not in charge of it. Hand over the entire estate to Sam's Daughter, and maybe she'll have the intelligence to be able to make it profitable, and possibly get a movie deal completed about his life. It's a hell of a Story. Yo', Howard, here's something that ought to appeal to you and especially your fans, that might be worth producing. There was no greater guest on your show than Sam Kinison. you could make his estate and your production company 10s of millions of dollars, and be doing something good for his daughter
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NickfromCali
wants a better Democrat than Feinstein as my Senat
08:44 PM on 02/18/2011
Does the kid go around shouting and screaming like Kinison did in his act? (RIP Sam)
03:17 PM on 02/18/2011
Yet another example of why mandatory paternal DNA testing at birth should be enacted.
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RadicalRuss
Host of The Russ Belville Show
08:06 PM on 02/18/2011
I think that would likely increase the abortion rate, as women who marry the nice guy but bang the bad boy couldn't get away with the cuckolding. When 1 in 25 fathers are raising a child they don't know is not biologically theirs, are we ready for 4% of mothers turning to abortion rather than deceit?

*I* don't have a problem with that. Less children is fine with me. Sparing 4% of fathers from raising some other guy's kid is fine with me. I just don't think most of the public is ready for that.
04:01 PM on 02/20/2011
It's about the father and the childs right to know, the effect on abortion rate is immaterial.