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Tea Party Uses Arizona Summit To Scope Out 2012 Role

Arizona Tea Party Summit

BRIAN BAKST   02/26/11 05:59 PM ET   AP

PHOENIX — Tea party supporters packed a Phoenix convention center Saturday to hear from two possible contenders for next year's Republican presidential nomination – an election the conservative populist movement is determined to shape after helping the GOP to big gains in the midterm elections.

Former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty aimed to impress more than 2,000 members of the Tea Party Patriots with a full-throated call to "take back our country." Texas Rep. Ron Paul, already embraced by tea party members, also spoke. The segment of engaged voters could prove vital to Republican White House hopefuls, but it's an audience that is skeptical of the politicians courting their backing.

"They're good speakers. They know what to say to inspire an audience. But I'm looking for substance I haven't found yet," said retiree Kaye Woodward of Livingston, Texas, who has been a mainstay at tea party events from Washington to the Alamo. "I haven't been gung-ho for a candidate for quite some time. I'm looking for a truth teller and I'm not sure I've found one yet."

Potential candidates are trying to figure out how far they need to go to win over the tea party – and what spoils that would bring. Democrats are watching too, eager to portray President Barack Obama's eventual challenger as beholden to the political far-right.

Pawlenty waved a copy of the U.S. Constitution after railing against "the royal triangle of greed: big government, big unions and big bailed out businesses." The former governor also paid homage to a longshot New York gubernatorial candidate who ran last year using the slogan "the rent is too damn high."

"So here's our simple motto: 'The Government's too damn big!'" Pawlenty said.

For Pawlenty, the event is his most overt attempt to reach out to the tea party movement. Most of his fellow 2012 Republican presidential prospects passed on the event citing scheduling conflicts.

Paul, who ran for president in 2008 and is thinking of doing it again, urged tea party members at the conference to keep up the pressure for sweeping change.

"I wish I could say you were the majority, but we are still the minority," the Texas congressman said. "But remember an irate minority can accomplish a whole lot when you're determined to do it."

All of the Republicans considered likely to run for president have said they believe in the core tea party principles of limited government and fiscal restraint, and they play up their own efforts to stymie the agendas of President Barack Obama and the Congressional Democrats – most notably the federal health care overhaul that gave rise to the tea party movement.

But some Republicans would have a head start among tea partiers if they run. Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin and Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann – who built a tea party caucus in Congress – both enjoy star status in the movement for their plainspoken ways and adherence to the movement's core values.

Others, like Pawlenty, have had to do more to build their reputation. Pawlenty won plaudits for trying to stop the implementation of the health care overhaul in Minnesota, but he drew scorn from tea partiers for using billions of federal stimulus dollars to balance the state budget.

Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich forged bonds last fall by helping train local tea party activists through his American Solutions organization, but others view him as an insider and they can't get past his decision to back a moderate Republican candidate over a conservative in a closely watched New York congressional election. Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney sent loads of money to tea party-backed candidates in 2010, but he is weighted down by a state law he helped engineer that expanded health coverage to the uninsured.

Former school principal Charles Wendler, a tea party member from of Las Cruces, N.M., said he's not enthusiastic about those likely candidates.

"We need to have somebody who is going to go `POOF' and appear and is going to take people by storm," Wendler said. "We need to have a grassroots candidate that doesn't have the baggage that these folks have."

It has yet to be determined how the tea party will influence the GOP primaries and the general election.

Tea Party Patriots co-founder Mark Meckler said candidates hoping for a tangible payoff from efforts to woo its members probably won't see one. Unlike interest groups that dangle endorsements, tea party members think they will wield more clout if their umbrella organization withholds any kind of official backing.

"Once the endorsement is made that politician owns the group. It doesn't matter anymore. You are now part of their literature. You are now part of their stump speech," Meckler said. "Even when a candidate goes sideways and does something a group might fundamentally disagree with, you just don't see withdrawn endorsements."

The tea party portrays itself as a leaderless web of activists, and this could complicate any collective display of might by splitting tea party support among several candidates.

In state after state, however, tea party activists are penetrating the Republican apparatus. Tea party figure Jack Kimball took over in January as Republican chairman in New Hampshire, which holds the first primary.

Veteran Republican strategist Saul Anuzis said the tea party's institutional presence alone makes it impossible for 2012 presidential candidates to ignore as they press ahead.

"The tea party is now a big part of the calculus of the Republican Party," said Anuzis, former chairman of the Michigan GOP. "It's not going to be the tea party necessarily as an entity, it's the fact that tea party activists are getting involved across the country in mainstream political movement taking over local parties and local leadership posts."

While the tea party provided fuel for the GOP's big electoral gains in November, Democrats see an upside if 2012 hopefuls battle for tea party backing ahead of an election where turnout will be larger and swing voters more critical.

"Establishment Republicans are afraid of losing to the far right in their primaries so they're playing to the far right," said Democratic political consultant Mo Elleithee, adding, "To the extent that the Republican candidates play to the extreme wing of their party, the better it is."

In a speech to conservatives this month, Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour scoffed at suggestions the tea party causes problems for the GOP, deriding it as "a case of the left whistling past the graveyard."

"Americans motivated to participate in the tea party movement were upset by the very same policy issues of Republican volunteers and leaders," Barbour, who is considering a run, told the Conservative Political Action Conference.

Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels, who hasn't ruled himself out the race, struck a more cautious note in a speech to the same group. Daniels warned that "purity in martyrdom is for suicide bombers" and said the worst outcome for his party in 2012 "would be to win the election and then prove ourselves incapable of turning the ship of state before it went on the rocks, with us at the helm."

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indjoe
Keep our Constitution; Do not mix church & State
05:38 AM on 03/31/2011
The tea party is the american fascist movement
just working under the GOP banner . they will never
come out and say it . But all you have too do is look
it up under Neo Fascist too see who they are. You also
have a large klan element in it too.
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Tecmage
Pithy comment here
03:23 PM on 02/28/2011
Interesting read. 1) Tea Party identifies more with Republicans, but thinks they need to watch them carefully or they will return to their old ways, which leads us to 2) the Tea Party doesn't trust the GOP, and are willing to 3) run primary challenges against their GOP friends if they don't do what the Tea Party wants. 4) Do you feel that the GOP is being held hostage by the Tea Party?

I am disturbed at the extent the Tea Party has bought into the idea that Unions are the problem, since Unions support Democrats. They seem to be totally oblivious to whom is bankrolling them and their support of the GOP.
11:50 AM on 02/28/2011
2,000 people? What a puny crowd.
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NoboyukiMasaki
happy-happy, joy-joy
10:10 AM on 02/28/2011
Like I've said previously:

"Tea Party = Republican Party"

This article is exactly why the notion of a "Liberal Tea Party" is ridiculous - if not just a flat out lie.
11:48 AM on 02/28/2011
I don't think so. I think they're naive saps who honestly think that the republican party represents them.
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way2sunny
09:31 AM on 02/28/2011
2,000 people is "packed?" The Phoenix convention center has 43 exhibit halls, the smallest of which holds twice that many people. They must have been using one of the smaller meeting rooms. Seriously, we get many times that number of people for high school football games. Yet there are three articles about this pathetic "summit" as if something significant is happening! Please!
08:02 AM on 02/28/2011
i didn't realize they were in town - now I know why it was so cold and miserable here all weekend ....
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baskemp
Veteran, US Navy Nurse Corp
12:50 AM on 02/28/2011
I posted a really long comment about Herman Cain and supplied three links no less because he has links to Murdock and Koch and guess what! Deleted! I forgot to copy it. Two hours of research and cross referencing and boom! Gone. That sucks.
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baskemp
Veteran, US Navy Nurse Corp
12:52 AM on 02/28/2011
omg, it's her. faith restord. thanks hp
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baskemp
Veteran, US Navy Nurse Corp
12:53 AM on 02/28/2011
*here
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baskemp
Veteran, US Navy Nurse Corp
12:36 AM on 02/28/2011
Wanted to know some more about Herman Cain so I did some research and found some really interesting info about his connections. Made me think he is a Murdock/Koch man. See the links below and draw your own conclusions.
1. Herman Cain works for Fox News as commentator
2. Herman Cain writes for North Star Writers Group owned by Dan and Angie Calabrese
3. Herman Cain until February 2011 had a radio talk show owned and syndicated by Cox.
4. The Calabrese had some financial difficulties with their North Star Public Relations and turned it into North Star Writers Group, a right wing, conspiracy theory, anti-Obama, Palin/Tea Party supporting newsletter. They recently merged with GrandCentralPolitical run by Racheal Marsden, who also worked as commmetator for Fox News and is published in, you guessed it,
New York Post.
All very interesting reading. Filled with exciting connections to Murdock and Koch which is really no surprise considering he is Tea-pug.
I mention Koch because he is a huge benefactor of the Anti global warming theorists and Herman Cain has been very verbal about...ding ding you guessed it Anti global warming. He calls it "the most brilliant scam in all of history"
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=118901
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman_Cains
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Marsden Read and form your own opinions. lots more l8r
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senatortruth
Fox keeps me "INFROMED"!
10:50 PM on 02/27/2011
The REAL "tea party" are the people against the Wisconsin governor.

REAL Americans.

Not TRRAAAAIIITTTOOORRRSS against America, financed by the Kokc brothers.
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Var Enyo
My micro-bio didn't meet their demands...
10:35 PM on 02/27/2011
Has anyone ever heard them complain about giving corporations personhood? I would think if you are for freedom, a one party system controlled by corporations would be a problem yet, I never once have heard it mentioned. Of course it is hard to get beyond, "Illegals took my job, Medicare Social Security, dog...whatever.
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baskemp
Veteran, US Navy Nurse Corp
12:39 AM on 02/28/2011
You should try reading up on Murdock Koch and Soros. Amazing stuff!
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Cabo600
Mongo only pawn in game of life.
10:02 PM on 02/27/2011
The Tea Party never had a chance of having a serious political platform since it was founded solely because we have a black president in office.
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CountLeo
It's a rich language - learn to use it.
11:45 PM on 02/27/2011
All that blood rushing to your head while you stick it in the sand has to start hurting at some point. Come up for some air and take a deep breath.
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aqueryan
Neo-gnostic, radical centrist
09:50 PM on 02/27/2011
"Newspeak was invented by Orwell, in Nineteen Eighty-Four, as the official language of what he called 'Ingsoc' (ENGlish SOCialism). But elements of Ur-Fascism (i.e. Eternal Fascism) are common to different forms of dictatorship. All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning. But we must be ready to identify other kinds of Newspeak, even if they take the apparently innocent form of a popular talk show."

- Umberto Eco.
BCinVA
Hillbilly Philosopher
09:15 PM on 02/27/2011
The tea bagger movement will never last over the long haul. The reason is simple, there just aren't enough people who will be gullible enough for long enough to not realize they are being played. The corporations and wealthy interests are using them for their political purposes. When they see their medicare, and social security start to disappear, the minimum wage struck down, etc. they will start to wonder what the heck is going on. Of course when the repo man comes after their scooter chairs thats when the tea baggers will finally realize the Koch boys are not their friends.
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08:39 PM on 02/27/2011
If you only reduced yourselves to calling people names then you have already lost
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drray23
physicist, liberal and woodworker
07:49 PM on 02/27/2011
Apparently the gop establishment has decided they are now toxic and are distancing themselves from the tea party in preparation for the presidential election. Of course they have to walk that fine line where they make independents believe they are not ultra radical while at the same time keep their base.
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CountLeo
It's a rich language - learn to use it.
11:47 PM on 02/27/2011
Are you talking about Obama? I keep hoping to see him in Wisconsin but he's nowhere to be found. He's walking that fine line you refer to. If he sides too aggressively with the union he'll satisfy his base but lose the middle. If he comes out for a states right to call its own shots he alienates his base more than he already has.