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Union Bargaining Absent From Southern States

Union Bargaining South

EMILY WAGSTER PETTUS and ERIK SCHELZIG   02/27/11 03:23 PM ET   AP

JACKSON, Miss. — Whenever Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour has asked lawmakers to weaken benefits for state employees, his proposals have met little resistance from workers.

Mississippi is among those states – many in the South – where most government employees do not have the right to collective bargaining, the benefit that has caused a political upheaval in Wisconsin and has become a national flashpoint for those who argue that public employee benefits are too generous.

Those states provide a snapshot of what life is like for government employees who do not have the same union clout that workers in Wisconsin and some other states are desperately trying to retain.

"We've been holding on by a hair through the political process," said Brenda Scott, head of the Mississippi Alliance of State Employees, which has no bargaining power but provides a voice for state government workers to air their concerns before the governor and Legislature.

Across the South, governors like Barbour and state legislatures dominated by conservative lawmakers find it relatively easy to chip away at public employees' benefits or eliminate government jobs because most state employees in the region – even when represented by a union – lack collective bargaining rights.

Nine of the 10 states with the lowest percentage of public employees eligible for collective bargaining are in the South, according to data compiled by Barry Hirsch of Georgia State University and David Macpherson of Trinity University in San Antonio. Their research shows only about two in five public employees nationwide have the type of collective bargaining rights that have drawn fire in Wisconsin and other states.

To be sure, government jobs are still seen as more secure and desirable than most private-sector jobs even in states where public employees do not have the right to collective bargaining. In Mississippi, one of the poorest states in the nation, state workers get 10 paid holidays a year, their sick days and vacation days can be rolled over from year to year, and they can retire after 25 years of service under a defined benefit plan. They also have a certain level of civil-service job protection.

But those workers have fewer protections and generally less generous compensation and benefits than public employees represented by collective bargaining. While pay and perks vary greatly among states, the primary benefit is that governors and lawmakers cannot unilaterally impose changes, such as pension reforms, without going to the bargaining table, nor can they impose lay-offs without following union tenure rules.

In California, where most state employees are covered by collective bargaining, negotiated labor contracts allow state workers to retire, collect their pensions and then return to work, allowing them to make more money than before. They also can purchase more lucrative pension benefits before they retire.

Two independent government auditing agencies in California have recommended reforming the state's pension system, even for current employees, but unions there have vowed to sue if the governor and Legislature try to enact reforms outside the bargaining process.

Governors and lawmakers in states without collective bargaining can make such changes without consulting workers. Pensions for new public employees in Virginia, for example, were shifted last year from the traditional defined benefit – the type of pension that many governments say they no longer can afford without major changes – to a 401(k)-style system similar to that used in the private sector. The change was made with little fanfare and no organized opposition.

In North Carolina, some state workers are represented by a local of the Service Employees International Union, but the group has no bargaining power. That leaves employees with no real say over how many jobs would be shed this year due to budget cuts – Democratic Gov. Beverly Perdue has recommended eliminating 10,000 state government jobs, 3,000 of them currently filled.

In 2009, Perdue signed legislation that made sweeping changes to the state worker health insurance plans, creating higher premiums, deductibles and copays without having to get consent from an employee union. Barbour, a Republican with possible presidential ambitions, came into office on a promise to shrink Mississippi's state government and reduce employee benefits. Unencumbered by union contracts, he has scored a number of successes.

He persuaded the Legislature in 2004 to temporarily erase civil-service protections for corrections employees, which allowed the prison system to fire workers and trim the payroll. Mississippi lawmakers also voted last year to make public employees put 9 percent of their own pay into the state retirement system, up from 7.25 percent, and they've made government workers hired since 2006 pay more for their health insurance than their longer-serving colleagues.

Barbour defends his actions as tilting the balance of power away from unions and toward the side of state taxpayers. He said he supports Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker's effort to eliminate most collective bargaining rights for government workers.

"When they have collective bargaining in Wisconsin, on one side of the table there's state employee unions or the local employee unions. On the other side of the table are politicians that they paid for the election of those politicians," Barbour said. "Now, who represents the taxpayers in that negotiation? Well, actually, nobody."

In states without collective bargaining, public employees are "completely subject to the power of the governor" because lawmakers often don't want to get involved labor disputes, said Ed Ott, who has been active in the New York labor movement for 42 years and is a former executive director of the New York City Central Labor Council AFL-CIO.

"It's really about a balance of power between employer and employee," said Ott, a lecturer on contemporary labor issues at the City University of New York's Murphy Institute. "Without any collective bargaining rights, you have no ability to say, 'Whoa, why don't we try something else?'"

Maryland and Tennessee have hybrid systems. Some Maryland employees are represented by unions and have the right to bargain with the governor, but there is no binding arbitration and no right to strike.

"We call it collective bargaining-lite L-I-T-E because they're not as strong as what you see in a number of the northern states," said Sue Esty, assistant director of the Maryland chapter of the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees.

Teachers in Tennessee have the right to collective bargaining, but other public employees do not. That is still too much for Republicans in that state's Legislature, who have wide majorities in both chambers and are looking to quash teachers' bargaining powers.

The Tennessee Education Association, which represents 52,000 teachers, has said the proposal is political payback by Republicans because the group has given more financial support to Democratic candidates over the years.

Gov. Bill Haslam has not signed on officially to the movement by his fellow Republicans, preferring to focus on teacher tenure, expanding charter schools and other issues he says are necessary to improve academic performance. But he also sympathizes with their intent to give the Legislature as much leeway as possible to control costs without having to submit to union negotiations.

"My job in the state of Tennessee is just like when I was running a company," said Haslam, a former president of Pilot Corp., a family owned national truck-stop chain. "It's to bring in the very best people to work, to provide the very best product we can, at the lowest price."

Like its neighboring states, Alabama does not allow public employees to bargain collectively, even though associations representing teachers and state workers have had some success working with the Legislature.

Lawmakers have approved cost-of-living raises and maintained health and retirement benefits that are better than those offered by most private-sector employers in the state.

The two organizations, which traditionally have supported far more Democratic candidates than Republican ones, have come under attack since Republicans gained control of the Legislature in November. Since then, a new law has stopped the organizations from using payroll deductions to raise money for their political action committees and any other political activity, greatly reducing their influence.

When the Legislature convenes Tuesday, one of the House Republican leaders will push a bill to provide state-paid liability insurance for education employees. Currently, the Alabama Education Association supplies this insurance as an incentive for teachers to join.

"Obviously what they are trying to do is discourage members," said Paul Hubbert, the association's executive secretary.

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Schelzig reported from Nashville, Tenn. Associated Press writers Bob Lewis in Richmond, Va., Gary Robertson in Raleigh, N.C., Brian Witte in Annapolis, Md., and Phillip Rawls in Montgomery, Ala., contributed to this report.

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unwashedmasses
RECALL WALKER
01:18 AM on 03/05/2011
Why do you think the people of Wisconsin are fighting to hold on to collective bargaining???

Because it yields better schools through better teachers.

My cousin SC is miserable in her job, but will never admit that it's because they have no union, and complaining or making comments in opposition to anything dictated by admin. risks losing their job.
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02:21 PM on 03/02/2011
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robert7 james7
02:17 PM on 03/02/2011
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robert7 james7
02:16 PM on 03/02/2011
JUST LOOK AT DE MINTS SOUTHERN STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA. HIS ANTI UNION TEACHER POLICY HAS ADVANCED SOUTH CAROLINA TO DEAD LAST IN SAT SCORES. 50TH BEHIND LOUISIANA, AND ALASKA. WHEN I POINTED THAT OUT TO HIM, HE WENT BALLISTIC. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY TRUTH BOTHERS THE REPUBLICAN LEADERS SO MUCH?
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11:53 AM on 03/01/2011
We don't want to give any bargaining rights to these people - if they would just go out and get a high paying job like mine, they wouldn't need bargaining rights. Heard that before?
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Oceras
A little inductive reasoning is a dangerous thing.
11:48 AM on 03/01/2011
About Barbour: "Unencumbered by union contracts, he has scored a number of successes." Where you stand depends on where you sit. Ask the government workers if they consider them successes.

Barbour: ""When they have collective bargaining in Wisconsin, on one side of the table there's state employee unions or the local employee unions. On the other side of the table are politicians that they paid for the election of those politicians," Barbour said. "Now, who represents the taxpayers in that negotiation? Well, actually, nobody.""
This is criminal disingenuousness. In Wisconsin the governor is Republican and the Assembly and Senate have Republican supermajorities. Does anyone honestly believe that the unions paid for those legislators. Barbour's statement is another in a long line of lies about unions and polititcians being in cahoots. Sure it has happened, just as politicians and businesses have been in cahoots, and those are far more common. However, Wisconsin is a big union state, and you see how far the unions got in electing Democratic politicians. Barbour conveniently or ignorantly omits the fact that the fiscal mess in Wisconsin was Walker's doing when he cut taxes for businesses and turned a surplus into a deficit.
Haslam: "It's to bring in the very best people to work, to provide the very best product we can, at the lowest price."
Why did Haslam not say, 'at the fairest price'.
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robert7 james7
02:19 PM on 03/02/2011
IT MAY SEEM CRIMINAL TO YOU WHO THINK YOU CAN PAY NOTHING AND GET GOOD HELP, BUT MISSISSIPPI IS 33RD IN SAT, AND DE MINTS S.C. IS 50TH AND THEY BOTH FORBID THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING OF TEACHERS. SO IF YOU WANT YOUR KIDS TO BE DEAD LAST IN SAT SCORES TAKE AWAY COLLECTIVE BARGAINING.
09:15 AM on 03/01/2011
If the people in this country don't get off their bottoms and throw the Republicans out, then hold the Democrats accountable, the entire country will be like south.
03:20 PM on 03/01/2011
F&F ~ Nail on the head MadamRoma!
WillowInTheWind
I'm a moderate but to the GOP, that makes me a lib
09:07 AM on 03/01/2011
It's amazing to me the people on this board that are defending the rights of the American worker on there Chinese made computers. If you really want to defend the rights of the American worker, try buying products that are made in America. Hypocrites..........
03:22 PM on 03/01/2011
F&F ~ Agree with your point but too many American manufacturers have chased child labor to China.
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Oceras
A little inductive reasoning is a dangerous thing.
08:38 PM on 03/01/2011
It is amazing to me how the people who are the heart and soul of this country, the American workers, can be taken so for granted, even reviled, by conservatives. They believe that all power should be in the hands of the corporations. Workers should just pick and choose from the least hateful job offered by an employer. These people have no faith in nor any desire to help the American worker. They're not trying to destroy the middle class; they're trying to eliminate any trace of it.

Some of the important Republican Rules for Republicans:

Never, ever, ever take responsibility for anything bad that happens that they contributed to.
Always blame others for everything bad that happens, no matter who caused it.
Always take credit when something good happens, even if you had no hand in it.
Never, ever, ever miss an opportunity to tell a lie or make a misleading statement.
Always explain the problems that can lead us into trouble.
Never come up with viable solutions for any problem.

There are many others.
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mountainweb
Conservative Commonsense
08:24 AM on 03/01/2011
Bottom line, its better that the government decision be made by the voters than a union boss. Unless of course you are a democrat that is getting money from the unions. Then for some reason, its ok to force workers to pay union dues and steal every dime they can from the government. The union issue is not a clear cut as some want to make it....
09:13 AM on 03/01/2011
Mr Koch how are you this morning.
WillowInTheWind
I'm a moderate but to the GOP, that makes me a lib
11:57 PM on 02/28/2011
No we don't have unions but we do have five white guys standing around watching a Mexican dig a ditch............
WillowInTheWind
I'm a moderate but to the GOP, that makes me a lib
12:08 AM on 03/01/2011
So that's just as good, right?
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11:16 PM on 02/28/2011
And it certainly shows in their abysmal education results.
08:59 PM on 02/28/2011
Southern states are like Mexico to their south. Poverty, monied interests calling the shots, no union rights.

The south is pitiful in "the most powerful nation on earth" but it could be an example of where we are all headed in America - the late, great America.
09:35 PM on 02/28/2011
I beg your pardon? I live in the south & am far from poverty.
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Oceras
A little inductive reasoning is a dangerous thing.
08:42 PM on 03/01/2011
You are one person.
WillowInTheWind
I'm a moderate but to the GOP, that makes me a lib
12:01 AM on 03/01/2011
Yeah, that's why all of the new auto plants are built in the south, because we're all ignorant down here. We actually think that you're supposed to work to make a living unlike you highly educated Northerners who know that a job is somewhere you go just to spend time.
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Elijah Moon
12:48 AM on 03/01/2011
No, the auto plants are all built in the south so that the auto companies don't have to deal with unions and pay a fair wage. I think most people, even us lazy Northerners, work for a living. I don't understand your arguement/ Are you suggesting Southerners are less educated? I would say less infomred-willing to be exploited by multi-naitonal corporations-somewhat reactionary -and terrified of progress-but not necessarily less educated.
Mark from atlanta
Unity through Diversity.
07:15 PM on 02/28/2011
Wisconsin SAT scores are 2nd in the nation.

Georgia, Mississippi, Alabama are in the high 40s.

Why do Wisconsin, Ohio, Indiana etc want to go the way of the South?
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Pete Cunningham
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08:11 PM on 02/28/2011
A little deceiving since so few WI students take the SAT. Most WI students do, though, take the ACT, and their performance on that test is impressive
03:25 PM on 03/01/2011
F&F ~ Can I say for slave wage labor!
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LastStar
95% of all people in the Arts are Democrats
07:14 PM on 02/28/2011
Proof positive Unions are a good thing!
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Chris Herz
05:26 PM on 02/28/2011
Let's make the whole country look just like Mississippi. This will usher in a new era of peace and prosperity.
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maninal2
Without knowledge action is useless
05:29 PM on 02/28/2011
The GOP is working on it...