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Laid Off And Left Out In Wisconsin

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First Posted: 02/28/11 10:00 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:35 PM ET

MADISON, Wis. -- Kathy Truesdel has no love for Scott Walker.

"He kiboshed the high-speed rail. It could have put me to work," she said. "That's my biggest gripe."

Walker, the new Republican governor of Wisconsin, nixed the Milwaukee-to-Madison project started under his predecessor, Jim Doyle (D), which had $810 million behind it from the 2009 stimulus bill. Walker cited the costs of continuing the project once the federal funds ran out, even though the project's proponents said it would have supported 5,500 construction jobs in Wisconsin for the next three years.

Truesdel, a laid-off forklift driver, thought some of that employment might have come her way. She told HuffPost she's been jobless for two years after working steadily for the previous 20.

"Nobody seems to want to hire me," said Truesdel, 41. "I've never been in this position my whole life."

It's not something she wanted to protest about. She said she wasn't interested in joining the anti-Walker demonstrations raging at the state capitol building up the street, where tens of thousands of union workers have swarmed to protest Walker's proposal to strip collective bargaining rights from most government employees.

Too much of a crowd for Truesdel. On Wednesday night, she sat on a barstool three blocks away at a dark dive called Mackesey's Irish Pub, wearing a black hoodie. No noisy protesters here, and not even any students at the moment, either. Just the Wisconsin-Michigan basketball game on TV and burgers for $4. Truesdel and another regular, Mary Baldassare, recognized this reporter as an out-of-towner. Baldassare immediately wanted to know how their visitor liked Madison. "I like to be friendly with people when I see they're new," she said.

Baldassare, 59, said she's also wary of the big crowds, though she supports the protesters and unions in general. "It's the only way small people can have their voices heard," she said. "In other regular jobs, if you complain, they get rid of you."

Baldassare said she works one day a week cooking at a sorority house but has been without steady employment since 2008. She met Truesdel here about a year ago.

"It's nice to go out once and a while and talk to people, commiserate," she said. Despite her degree in culinary management, she's only been able to find odd jobs cooking or cutting hair. She used to run a motel in Florida, and worked alternately as a hairdresser or a cook her whole adult life. Before her husband died in 1999, she said, they used to go out to dinner once or twice a week. She said not having the money to go out more often "makes me feel kind of worthless."

The average U.S. unemployment spell now lasts nearly 37 weeks. The longer a person is out of work, the less likely they are to find a job, regardless of background. While the overall unemployment rate for people with a college degree is 4.2 percent, compared with 14.2 percent for people who don't have a high school diploma, high school dropouts and college grads are equally represented among the million-plus who've been out of work for at least 99 weeks, according to the Congressional Research Service.

Truesdel said her unemployment benefits ran out a few weeks ago. She's still filing claims, she said, so the government knows that the unemployment crisis isn't over. "Maybe they'll address it more," she said. "I don't hear about it so much in the news."

Baldassare said she's got a few weeks of benefits left thanks to part-time work that interrupted her jobless spell. She said she's applied for every job she can find, including cooking and bartending gigs. It seems to her that businesses in this town would rather hire college kids for the kind of work she can do. The experience of constantly applying for jobs and never even getting a response from employers makes her feel small.

"I feel like I'm a little piece of lint on the earth. A little dust bunny," she said. "I have so much to give."

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MADISON, Wis. -- Kathy Truesdel has no love for Scott Walker. "He kiboshed the high-speed rail. It could have put me to work," she said. "That's my biggest gripe." Walker, the new Republican g...
MADISON, Wis. -- Kathy Truesdel has no love for Scott Walker. "He kiboshed the high-speed rail. It could have put me to work," she said. "That's my biggest gripe." Walker, the new Republican g...
 
 
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04:03 PM on 03/06/2011
In the late 70's and early 80's I worked 60-80 hours a week while being payed a salary. In the 90's I was replaced by younger version of me which I had to train before my demise. I didn't hold a grudge instead I re invented myself and learned a new skill. In the late 90's in was again stricken by bad luck. I became very I'll and after a year of rehabilitation I re invented myself again. Today, I am again facing some life changing obstacles but I don't blame anyone or any corporation instead I forge ahead and deal with it. I find a way to make things work which sometimes means doing without certain advantages. Life is not fair and certainly not for everyone but that doesn't mean we have to take away what others have achieved through hard work and life long and sometimes generational struggles.
03:30 PM on 03/06/2011
This is an old article. Why are we seeing the same article over and over? I'm sure the huffing ton post can find someone else other than this poor 41 year old fork lift worker to talk to.
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01:45 AM on 03/06/2011
Conclusion

While the American worker and family are working harder, with longer hours, and still falling further and further behind�the American CEO is 500 times better off since Reagan, Bush I, and Bush II. Think about that $200,000 equivalent pay you might have gotten if you were treated as equally or fairly as the CEO of the company you work for.

—Jack Rasmus, National Writers Union, UAW 1981, AFL-CIO.
03:47 PM on 03/06/2011
I don't understand your way of thinking regarding ceo's. Did you educate yourself to the level where you too could of become a chief executive officer of a fortune 500 company? Did someone prevent you from doing this? Where you cheated out of a career or something? How do you blame someone who made it to the level of CEO by hard work or do you think they all cheated their way to the top? Not everyone will become or can become the head of a fortune 500 company, some of us have to pursue a regular job. Some of us have to follow and some of us lead. Please explain your theory to me cause I don't get why you hate people who achieve more than you have. I don't expect the same from all of my children! Each one of them has his and her own strenghs and will eventually be all they can be but no all will be CEO of a big company, especially with all the demonizing going on these days.
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10:18 PM on 03/06/2011
You need to look at the change in the relative pay of CEOs to workers: that's what My five cents is referring to. CEOs are making insane amounts of money compared to the workers -- way out of scale --- compared to the relative compensation they received in, say, the 70s or before. It's all out of kilter.
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03:46 AM on 03/07/2011
400 Rich Americans hold more wealth than 150,000,000 million Americans. Need I say more. Revolution coming soon to your neighbor hood. Count on it.
A beginning airline pilot makes 19000 dollars a year to start. Thats what you call fair distribution of wealth.
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01:44 AM on 03/06/2011
The Legacy of Declining Hourly Wages in American: Working Longer And Harder

The overall picture is abundantly clear: real average hourly ages of more than 100 million of American workers' are less today than 25 years ago; real wages of college educated workers have risen only modestly in the late 1990s and fallen since under Bush II; and real wages of the 10 million lowest paid workers have declined more than 21%.

Given this irrefutable array of facts, one might ask 'how has the American worker and his or her family survived the last quarter century under Reagan and Bush'? The answer is by working longer hours�individually and as a family unit�and by taking on more and more household debt�both in lieu of hourly wage gains.

Let's look at hours worked: The American worker not only works more hours in a year than his counterpart in other industrialized nations, but is the only worker in the 13 major industrialized countries whose hours worked per year actually increased since 1979.

Workers in all the other industrialized countries have enjoyed an actual decrease in their total hours worked per year in a comparable period.
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01:43 AM on 03/06/2011
The international comparisons are also interesting to note. Whereas the American worker today earns only about a third more than the average wage of the worker in 13 other industrialized countries, for those same countries the American CEO earns 300%, or three times, as much as his CEO counterpart. No average CEO compensation in any of the other 13 countries is equal to even half that of the typical American CEO's. For example, the ratio of CEO to average worker's pay ranges from a low of around 10 to 1 for Japan and Switzerland to a high of around 25 to 1 in the UK and Canada.

As one source has put it, "in 2000 a CEO earned more in one workday (there are 260 in a year) than what the average worker earned in 52 weeks. In 1965, by contrast, it took a CEO two weeks to earn a worker's annual pay".
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01:42 AM on 03/06/2011
CEOs & Executive Compensation

Considering just the period from 1989 to the present yields an obscene result. The median executive salary (cash pay and bonuses) of American CEOs rose by 79% from 1989 to 2000�and has continued to accelerate right through the current Bush II recession! And that's only the median. The average CEO cash and direct compensation growth is even higher than 79%.

But wait! That's only CEO wage or 'cash' compensation. How about management incentives, stock options exercised, the value of new stock grants, special supplemental pensions, etc. etc. The growth of this 'direct compensation' of CEOs from 1989 to 2000 was no less than 342%!. 212% of that growth occurred in the 'boom years' of the late 1990s.

Put in real money terms, the median pay for an American CEO was $2,436,000 in 1989 and $10,775,000 by 2000.

The growth in CEO compensation has been unstoppable, and is accelerating faster every year. In 1965, CEO pay was 26 times that of their average worker. In 1980, as noted, 40 times. In 1989, it was 72 times. In 1999 it had risen to 310 times, and today, as per the above data from the accounting firm, Towers Perrin, survey it has reached 500 times.
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01:41 AM on 03/06/2011
The Great Productivity Swindle

Management is always quick to say in contract negotiations, 'give us more productivity and we can afford to give you a bigger raise'. But this has been a false promise from 1979 to 2000, and an even bigger lie under George Bush II.

With 1992 as base year, productivity was at 82.2 in 1979. It grew to 94.2 by 1989 and 116.6 by the year 2000. In the past year, moreover, it has exploded, putting it over 120. That's a nearly 40% increase since Ronald Reagan took office nearly 25 years ago!

The 100 million American workers without college degrees, whose real take home pay today is less than it was 25 years ago, certainly can't be said to have shared in that 40% productivity gain. And the other 20 million or so with college degrees whose pay rose modestly at best certainly shared in very little of that nearly 40% productivity gain.

So who got all the money?
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01:39 AM on 03/06/2011
Stagnating Workers' Wages

In 1979 the American worker's average hourly wage was equal to $15.91 (adjusted for inflation in 2001 dollars). By 1989 it had reached only $16.63/hour. That's a gain of only 7 cents a year for the entire Reagan decade.

But wait. Things get worse! By 1995 it had risen to only $16.71, or virtually no gain whatsoever over the 6 years between 1989 and 1995. During the great 'boom years' between 1995 and 2000 it rose briefly to $18.33 per hour. In other words, from 1979 to 2000, even before the most recent Bush recession, after more than two decades the American worker's average wages increased on average only 11.5 cents per hour per year! With nearly all of that coming in the five so-called 'boom' years of 1995-2000, and most of that lost once again in the last three years. And that includes for all workers, even those with college degrees.

The picture is worse for workers who had no college degree. That's more than 100 million workers, or 72.1% of the workforce. For them there was no 'boom of 1995-2000' whatsoever. Their average real hourly wages were less at the end of 2000 than they were in 1979! And since 2000 their wages have continued to slide further.
11:57 AM on 03/03/2011
Maybe he is being adviced by George Will. www.sportbloggers.com
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08:23 AM on 03/02/2011
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11:50 PM on 03/01/2011
She's been out of work for 2 years but has time and money  to hang out at the bar and burger joint?
09:17 AM on 03/02/2011
agreed
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12:10 AM on 03/06/2011
well I'm sure she isn't short on time...
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08:23 PM on 03/01/2011
We support you Gov Walker. Give these union thugs what fer.

Let them see how their union helps when they are fired. The unions don't care about fired former members that no longer pay dues.
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Lena McFarland
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08:54 PM on 03/01/2011
"We" doesn't include anyone I know, fyi.

"The unions don't care about fired former members that no longer pay dues."

Um. You mean that unions don't care about non-unionized workers? Were you fired from a job that was unionized?

I'm confused by your whole argument, but I get it that you're prejudiced against unions.
02:55 AM on 03/02/2011
You actually used the expression "what fer"? It doesn't really lead someone to take your perception on the subject very seriously. I don't actually know one single person who supports the actions of Governor Walker.
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03:13 PM on 03/01/2011
1. The Governor created the so called budget crisis by giving $140 million in tax breaks to corporations, he then states we have a $136 million deficit.
2. The so called "refinancing" of the $165 million debt does not need to take place, the money is there to pay it off, he wants to refinance it at a cost of an additional $30million to the taxpayers so we don't have to pay it off this year - instead we will pay it back in 2 years (another waste of money)
3. Walker refused the federal stimulus money which would have created jobs in Wisconsin - the money is not going back to the federal government though, he threw it away. Instead it is going to another state that wants it.

This man is making mistake after mistake
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04:19 PM on 03/01/2011
and there is a provision in his budget to remove the 'firewall' between the government (him) and Union retirement accounts.
These aren't mistakes, Walker will sacrifice his state's Middle Class for the good of the Party.
His retirement accounts are doing just fine.
Who knows, one of the Insurance Companies can always use a good 'plug puller'...
FnF...
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08:24 PM on 03/01/2011
Rubbish. There is a multi billion dollar gap in the two year view of things.
Nice try.
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Lena McFarland
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08:55 PM on 03/01/2011
The unions already agreed to the financial concessions. so this is a political and not an economic move.

what makes you so embittered against unions?
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Cherie Lyon
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11:17 AM on 03/01/2011
I'd complain about having no benefits because I'm working contract, but I am just too grateful that I have a job at all. My sympathies lie with the folks who just want to get back to work and can't find a company willing to hire them. IMO, hiring managers need to lose the obsolete mindset that there is 'something undesirable about him/her if he/she is unemployed'.

And the Wisconsin state government needs to take a collective pay cut if they expect to be taken seriously. Those clowns are demanding respect, but should do something to prove they deserve it. Just my view from the gallery....
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02:35 PM on 03/01/2011
A view from the top. #70, CL.
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Janetshusb
02:53 PM on 03/01/2011
How, exactly will taking a pay cut help unemployment in Wisconsin? How will taking away bargaining rights pay down the deficit? How will it help create jobs? And how does calling teachers, snow plow drivers, bus drivers, secretaries, cooks, janitors clowns help the unemployed find jobs?
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08:20 PM on 03/01/2011
And why should teachers, snow plow drivers, bus drivers, secretarie­s, cooks, janitors be paid more than market value just because they have collective bargaining?

If they were paid less and taxes for all lowered there would be more money in the broader economy. I am sick of the "logic" that says pay these people big wages because they will spend it. Heck, leave the money where it is in the private sector and don't move it to the govt sector in the hope of "trickle down".
09:21 AM on 03/01/2011
let the layoffs begin
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Janetshusb
02:54 PM on 03/01/2011
Why, what do you think it will accomplish.
04:13 PM on 03/01/2011
teach a needed lesson