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Military Needs Better Oversight Of College Aid For Soldiers, Investigators Say

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First Posted: 03/01/11 09:03 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:35 PM ET

The Department of Defense has doled out increasing amounts of federal money in recent years to allow active-duty military personnel to pursue college degrees in their spare time.

But the Department does not have the proper controls in place to ensure the money is flowing to quality higher education programs, according to a report released Tuesday by the Government Accountability Office. In particular, government investigators noted that the Defense Department has very little oversight of online college programs, even though such courses represented 71 percent of classes taken by service members.

"The amount of tuition assistance funding going toward distance learning programs creates new oversight challenges for DOD and its military services, especially since DOD oversight has primarily focused on schools offering traditional classroom instruction on military installations," the report noted.

The GAO also found that the Defense Department does not properly gather information from other oversight bodies that track college quality, such as the Department of Education and college accrediting bodies. The report noted that the Defense Department requires colleges receiving federal money to be accredited, but said that there is little follow-up about problems that may be developing.

That means the Defense Department might not be aware if a school was on probation or facing sanctions because of problems such as misleading recruiting or marketing tactics.

There is also no comprehensive system to track complaints made by service members about particular schools, the report found, making it difficult to pinpoint problems that may be occurring repeatedly. The Defense Department has acknowledged the deficiencies found in the report, and officials noted that plans are in the works to establish more uniform oversight.

But those additional controls, such as requirements for student counseling and more disclosure of graduation rates, will not be in place until 2012.

The GAO's findings will be the subject of a Senate hearing Wednesday hosted by Sen. Tom Carper (D-Del.). The Defense Department's tuition assistance program, which provides up to $250 per credit hour for active-duty military, paid out $517 million to more than 377,000 service members in 2009, up substantially from $157 million in 2000.

Although the GAO's findings did not focus on any particular sector of higher education, for-profit colleges have come under heightened scrutiny because of the growing amounts of military and veteran benefit dollars going to their programs.

Sen. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa), who has held a series of hearings on the for-profit college sector over the past year, released a report in December noting a fourfold increase in the amount of Defense Department tuition dollars going to large for-profit education companies between 2006 and 2010.

Tuition benefits from the Department of Defense and the Department of Veterans Affairs are especially attractive to for-profit colleges because they are not counted as federal student loan and grant dollars. For-profit colleges must abide by a federal rule that prohibits a school from receiving more than 90 percent of revenues from federal higher education dollars.

With many for-profit colleges receiving more than 80 percent of revenues from federal student loan and grant dollars, active-duty military and veterans offer a way for schools to fulfill the 10 percent obligation. Executives at for-profit education corporations are often quizzed about military recruiting on quarterly earnings calls, and many companies have set up entire divisions dedicated to recruiting active-duty soldiers and veterans.

Overall, the industry has been criticized amid data that shows students at for-profit schools take on much more debt and default on federal student loans at much higher rates than other college students.

Even before the GAO report was released Tuesday, a lobbying group representing the for-profit college sector, the Coalition for Educational Success, released a highly critical statement rebuking Congress' investigative agency. For-profit colleges have been engaged in a legal and rhetorical battle with the GAO ever since last summer, when the agency released a stinging report that documented deceptive and high-pressure recruiting tactics used at numerous schools.

The GAO made revisions to the report a few months later that changed wording and elaborated on some of the findings - revisions that for-profit college lobbyists say undermined the entire report.

"After producing a substandard and discredited report in 2010, they test credulity by rolling out their 2011 version without ever taking responsibility for the lemon they rolled out last year," the statement from the Coalition read.

The GAO has stood behind the original findings of the report, saying the changes were simply clarifications.

Harkin, who will testify at Wednesday's hearing, said in a statement that Tuesday's GAO report renewed questions about the amount of federal money going to such schools.

"Because of the high costs, high withdrawal rates, and high default rates among the general student population, combined with troubling stories I have heard from veterans, I am deeply concerned that there is inadequate oversight," Harkin said.

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12:09 PM on 03/03/2011
Another hearing on for-profits only points to the conspiracy against for profit colleges. The real conspiracy is the role of Short Sellers like Steve Eisman's collusion with the Obama Administration. In a new complaint to the SEC, "I know you cannot respond,” Eisman wrote July 19 to a top Education bureaucrat, “But just fyi. Education stocks are running because people are hearing DOE is backing down from gainful employment [regulations].” Eisman’s email was forwarded to a top aide to Education Secretary Arne Duncan, Phil Marten, with the request, “Let’s discuss.” Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/03/01/crew-pushes-sec-to-investigate-short-seller-obama-administration-partnership-on-education-regs/#ixzz1FXu5nrgN
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sarahinez
06:43 PM on 03/02/2011
War profiteering going on in another guise. Why aren't we surprised?
11:55 AM on 03/02/2011
The new GI Bill is an enormous improvement over the old GI Bill.

What the Military fails at (because it's mandated to prepare for and to fight wars as priority 1) is preparing its troops for the transition to the civilian world.

Not many people will admit it, but the truth is that in many ways the civilian world is more challenging than the military world.


The seps program is not adequate. Congress needs to step in and mandate a 3 month transition program PRIOR to going home (some of them have nowhere to go home to) so that these young people are adequately prepared to reenter society.


All the good work done by the VA, social services, volunteer/church groups etc. is reactive. We  need to help these folks before they end their active duty service.
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omobob
left coast, usa
11:28 AM on 03/02/2011
Considering the US Educational System ranks at the bottom of all industrialized nations the question should be is anyone getting a quality education in the US?
11:58 AM on 03/02/2011
I wonder if any of that is mitigated by the enormous influx of immigrants (and their children) from 3rd world and developing nations who often have weak English language skills and don't know how to navigate out education system?

I look at many of these industrialized nations that rank above the U.S. and most do not have the immigration levels of the U.S. 

My parents were immigrants and they admit it hampered them and our progress as students.
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omobob
left coast, usa
11:40 PM on 03/02/2011
> wonder if any of that is mitigated by the enormous influx of immigrants (and their children) from 3rd world

The answer is no. Considering that less than 10% of the kids in school are new immigrants that means the other 90% of good old fashioned red blooded American kids are getting a poor to lousy education. The entire system is antiquated and useless.
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Sister Bluebird
01:11 PM on 03/02/2011
Some people are, but statistically I would say, that *that some, is a very small number. And that is sad. The GI bill now might be a better deal than it was recently, but it has never been what it was intended to be originally. There is so much wrong with that and what happens to your military training when it's not accepted by colleges even when the military says it will be--so that troops, if they want credit for their technical training in electronics or computers, have to go to specialty universities to have that work count. As an Aviation Electronics Tech--all my training was worth 15 credit hours total. Thats it. And none of it for my college math. So in part we force Military to look elsewhere to get credit for work and courses already completed. And this is the end result of several decades of that.
02:40 PM on 03/02/2011
In my experience the civilian world undervalues the skills that ex-military people have. One reason might be, because the civilians in colleges didn't support the GI's in the first place. Nor do they support that they did. So a bias occurs and it's sad, because as any ex-GI knows, what we learned in the military were very challenging and difficult tasks and we were also taught leadership skills, which civilians never are.

I was a Naval Aviator. The training was extremely challenging and it took years to complete, yet it's worth nothing on college transcrips. I think we got a few credits, but we should have been awarded a ph'd in aviation. I went to a job interview in San Francisco right after the VN War. I explained my experiences and education. The interviewed replied, "Yes, but what can you do?" She was absolutely clueless.
04:45 PM on 03/02/2011
Thanks for sharing your personal experience.
10:57 AM on 03/02/2011
Part-time, employee, NGO or government-sponsored training and education is a global racket. Scams are commonplace.
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10:55 AM on 03/02/2011
I'm a veteran got my masters through USC from military aid and i get so sick of everybody crying and whining about veterans - if you were all so concerned why did you send us to Iraq based on lies? People make choices and they can make choices about their schools - these are adults not babies and it's aid not a mortgage. If these investigators are so soncerned - how about going after the megabankers preying on our society and sucking the life out of the economy with our own money.
10:35 AM on 03/02/2011
You'd think that with a 1.3+ trillion dollar budget ($1.2 Trillion: The Real U.S. National Security Budget No One Wants You to Know AboutBy Chris Hellman / Tomdispatch.com) that the Pentagon could at least look out for their own men. Na that is way to simplistic. The Generals and civilians at the pentagon are looking out for themselves and the soldiers are just a means to an end. Way to many generals sitting on their collective asses looking at the lobbying job at retirement so they have to keep the contractors happy.
02:49 PM on 03/02/2011
When I got out of the Marine Corps at the end of the VN War I didn't want anything from the government. I'd done my duty and received some wonderful training for zip. I felt lucky to have been in the Corps and I stayed in the reserves because the place felt so much like home, and the civilian world didn't. I had to relearn how to be one.

But I made the transition and did fine. What aggrevated me was when people would click their tongue and say it was too bad that I was in the Marines. I replied by saying, "I just wish folks like you would have allowed us to win."

The fact that we lost is the frustrating part of the experience to me, and not that we were there.
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Bert Dodson
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09:57 AM on 03/02/2011
Federal Aid to student/soldiers should only go to STATE UNIVERSITIES/COMMUNITYCOLLEGES (yes I am shouting). Currently most state schools offer online programs at a much lower cost than the for profit schools. For PROFIT school should make a profit based on providing a product that is desired by the market, that the market will pay a premium for the degree offered.
Simple solution all state, federal aid, grants, and loans may only go to state universities, colleges, ect let private market based aid, grants, and loans pay for private education.

The benifit to the for profit is without tax based revenues they will truly be able to teach exactly what, who, and how they deem most appropriate. Without federal and state interference or money they will turn an even greater profit, a purely market based profit.
10:39 AM on 03/02/2011
What about private schools? I know a bunch of guys who did Marist and Siena and had a good time with it, got their degrees in 4 years. You should be able to take your GI Bill wherever you want, you earned it.
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Bert Dodson
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12:15 PM on 03/02/2011
There are many worthy private/not for profit universities offering specialized degrees again they should be funded by alumni and or the community they serve. Full disclousure I attended private parochial schools, my parents scrimpt and did hours of unpaid work for both the church and school to meet the tuition.

Many companies and pundits trumpet their support for out warriors let um put up or shut up. In fact if these concerned citizen groups do an outstanding job then it will reduce the burden on the tax payer, again it is a win win.
02:53 PM on 03/02/2011
I graduated from college in Kansas in 1967. My out of state fees were $156 a semester. It was a state college. Private colleges were more of course, but not all that much more. College didn't get expensive until the government started giving out college loans. They opened to coffers of the federal government and school became really EXPENSIVE.

What a shame. Before government provided college tuition colleges could only charge what people could afford. Now they charge what the government can afford...But YOU have to pay it back.
08:09 AM on 03/10/2011
Sure, but how many brick and mortar schools offer programs that are nearly 100% online? Who really expects us veterans, or those that are still active duty, to somehow work our jobs, go on deployments, take care of our families, and go to a classroom 10-15 hours a week? I can't do it. I might be getting fleeced, but I'm getting my degree online, and I'm in my last year of study for my BA in Middle Eastern Studies. I'm a vet, I work 50 hours at my full time job, take care of my family (since I'm the primary breadwinner), and still am managing to get in two classes at a time. I could not do that with a regular school.

They want you to show up on their schedule, take classes that last for months-not weeks, pay athletic fees, support stupid clubs, and only call me full time when I'm taking 12 credit hours a semester. I'm full time work, full time mom, full time student, and until these >STATE UNIVERSITIES/COMMUNITY COLLEGES< start respecting my needs too, they can shove it.

These for-profit schools might be distasteful, but they ARE filling a market need. I need them, since they're the only ones who are willing to meet me where I am, on my terms. Yes, I need to be vigilant about my own education in order to graduate. I'm an adult, I SHOULD be that responsible.
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Bob Hazard
04:48 PM on 04/12/2011
Good luck with your online degree getting a job.
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CSKAP
Morlock or Eloi?
09:48 AM on 03/02/2011
All of you voicing complaints that Active Duty people are not attending "highly rated" colleges. If you do manage to enroll at a local "highly rated" college, you'll be transferred prior to completion. So, you go to a new base, perhaps overseas and take on-line or correspondence courses. But wait, that "highly rated" college will not accept those credits. You rotate back to the states to a new location, try to enroll at another "highly rated" college and discover they will only accept a limited number of your credits. And so on and so on. I went through this entire process and accumulated 275 credits before I got to a place that would accept enough credits to actually graduate.
12:01 PM on 03/02/2011
I got into a bunch of highly rated schools that I applied to while on active duty. Some of these veterans don't have the grades or test scores to show they'd make progress in the academic world. Which is why  quite a few of them joined the military to begin with.
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Sister Bluebird
01:12 PM on 03/02/2011
You must be Army
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Sister Bluebird
09:33 AM on 03/02/2011
Some of the junk that the military allows people to pay for that passes for college blows my mind. Bob Jones University and their "Comparative religion courses" sick. And the worst part is, these folks work hard to complete this course, even though the education they receive is substandard. You can tell them that, but they will not accept it for two reasons: 1. They paid money for it and 2. They invested time and work into it. So that "graduates" will always believe that these degrees represent something that they are not. And the graduates expect to be treated on par with true academics, as peers. This effects the credibility of our entire college system of learning, and also feeds into that *dumbing down of America. Imagine getting a degree in revisionist-everything. :( and your tax dollars are paying for it.
12:02 PM on 03/02/2011
Bob Jones University is fine if you want to become a minister.
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Sister Bluebird
01:06 PM on 03/02/2011
Sadly, that statement is not true at all. Jerry Falwell's Doctrine of Mysogyny and Hate are should have never been allowed to culminate into anything other than a paragraph in a book on deviant religious groups.
09:30 AM on 03/02/2011
If holding a gun, acting like a barbarian, and recording your own version of middle east jackarse is education then yeh - the military is doing a spectacular job. All the soliders are coming home strongly educated and ready to take powerful positions in our nations corporations.
10:41 AM on 03/02/2011
You use the GI Bill when you get home.
12:03 PM on 03/02/2011
Hmm and all the leftists are doing such a great job of educating the rest of our children...
08:42 AM on 03/02/2011
Is the government involved? Yes.
Are these programs going to be competently and efficiently handled? Probably not.
Are you talking really, really big bucks with the various active duty educational programs? Nope.
Will these programs still be in the exact same state 2 years from now? Probably.

C'mon, you're talking about the government here. What else should one expect?
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R U Sirius
Retired educator, trainer; writer/editor
08:32 AM on 03/02/2011
If we don't get our priorities straight on education, my friends, nothing else will matter. We're already well on our way to becoming a third-world banana republic --irrelevant because we can't deal with facts.
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Euterpe360
I'm just a little bi-partisan
11:39 AM on 03/02/2011
With a $15 trillion GDP I think we're ok, but we do need to fix education on a broad scale.
03:02 PM on 03/02/2011
Yep, the fact is our graduates aren't very well educated. It seems that those in the highest positions within the educational community simply demand more money. More Money? They already get most of it, in many states.

No, it's not a money issue. It's a motivation, discipline issue. Trouble is it's hard to accomplish those things and teachers for the most part don't want to, or are incapable of doing it.
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R U Sirius
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03:12 PM on 03/02/2011
My wife is a teacher, and as a result I know a lot of teachers...and the main challenge they face on a daily basis is big problems with discipline and disrespect for both them and education in general...this from both students and parents. Now, in such a milieu, why would the best and brightest want to spend their entire careers swimming upstream against such a current of hostility and apathy?

Americans used to respect education --and educated people. What happened? Well, it all started with Ronald Reagan, now didn't it?
07:40 AM on 03/02/2011
If this is a republican cost cutting measure it is vindictive and dishonest. Many in the military may not be able to get into the highest rated universities. So we have the biggest cowards in history trying to cuts funds for our forces who have served honorably and well while the fundamentalist repubs and their children have stayed at home where it is safe. We need a national draft with no deferrments or exceptions, especially for the rich kids.
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That All Important I-4 Corridor in Central FL
08:02 AM on 03/02/2011
@grf67
You state:
"especially for the rich kids."
Gotta tell ya...I agree 100%.
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usna73
We are all in this together
09:29 AM on 03/02/2011
Bravo Zulu.
07:35 AM on 03/02/2011
So what's with the picture of my beloved alma mater? The last time I checked, the University of Michigan at Ann Arbor was considered an excellent school. Just asking...
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13champlain
Trolling for grouper at 40 knots
07:57 AM on 03/02/2011
how is the hockey team these days....they cleaned our clocks when I was in school
10:40 AM on 03/02/2011
They're atop the CCHA, no. 5 in the country, and looking to return again to the Frozen Four.