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Harvard To Let ROTC Back On Campus

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JAY LINDSAY   03/ 3/11 09:07 PM ET   AP

BOSTON — Harvard University is welcoming the Reserve Officer Training Corps program back to campus after a four-decade banishment caused by dissent over the Vietnam War and disagreement on military policy toward gays.

The move by Harvard comes just months after Congress in December repealed the military ban on gays serving openly.

On Friday, Harvard President Drew Gilpin Faust and Navy Secretary Ray Mabus are scheduled to sign an agreement that will establish the Naval ROTC's formal presence on the Cambridge campus, the university announced Thursday.

Under the agreement, a director of Naval ROTC at Harvard will be appointed, and the university will resume funding the program, which will be given office space and access to athletic fields and classrooms.

Harvard cadets will still train, as they have for years, at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, also located in Cambridge, just outside Boston. Currently, 20 Harvard students participate in ROTC, including 10 involved in Naval ROTC.

Harvard is the first elite school to agree to rescind its ban since December, when Congress issued its decision about the military policy on gays.

Faust said the "renewed relationship" affirms the armed forces' vital role in "securing our freedoms."

"It broadens the pathways for students to participate in an honorable and admirable calling and in doing so advances our commitment to both learning and service," she said in a press release.

Mabus said the agreement would make the military better and the nation stronger because "with exposure comes understanding, and through understanding comes strength."

Harvard and several other prominent schools, including Stanford, Yale and Columbia, had kept the Vietnam-era ROTC ban in place following the war because they viewed the military policy forbidding gays from serving openly as discriminatory. The 17-year-old policy requires soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines to keep their homosexuality a secret or face dismissal.

But after Congress cleared the way for the repeal of the so-called "don't ask, don't tell," policy, Faust said she'd work toward ROTC's return.

Under the agreement to be signed Friday, "full and formal" recognition of ROTC at Harvard comes once the repeal takes effect, expected later this year. Full repeal comes 60 days after President Barack Obama, the U.S. defense secretary and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff certify that lifting the ban won't hurt the military's ability to fight. The Army is training the force in the new law, and officials said they hope to be finished by mid-August.

ROTC was founded in 1916 to ensure educated men were well-represented in the military. Students receive scholarship money in return for agreeing to military service after graduation. In 1926, Harvard became one of the original six schools to partner with Naval ROTC.

ROTC exited numerous campuses during the Vietnam War under pressure from student protesters who said the military's presence on campus was the same as endorsing the war.

Harvard voted to withhold academic credit from ROTC in 1969, and the program left the campus a few years later. Harvard then defunded the program in 1995, saying "don't ask, don't tell" violated its non-discrimination policies.

Training for Harvard cadets has since been paid for by anonymous donors, and some have criticized Harvard's policy as a disgraceful lack of support for military men and women risking their lives in the country's defense. Others said it was a needed stand against discrimination.

On Thursday, Harvard said it's working toward renewing ties with ROTC programs associated with other military branches. It's also starting a committee to assist with implementing ROTC at Harvard, which will be headed by engineering professor Kevin "Kit" Parker, an Army major who has served three tours in Afghanistan.

Before Faust, former Harvard president Larry Summers spoke in support of ROTC, saying "every Harvard student" should be proud Harvard students were committed to ROTC, but the campus ban remained with "don't ask, don't tell" in place.

A spokesman for OutServe, an underground network of gay and lesbian active duty military members, said Thursday it was "proud to welcome Harvard back to the officer training community."

"The more the military reflects the full diversity of our society – including Harvard – the more it can support our values around the world," said spokesman Jonathan Hopkins, a veteran of three combat tours.

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othel
I believe I don't believe
11:11 PM on 03/05/2011
If ever there were something that indicates how far we HAVEN'T come. We have military academies. ROTC is today, as it was during the Vietnam years, another means for the government's military establishment to keep a "finger" on the country's youth.
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jstrate
09:47 PM on 03/04/2011
Perhaps the return of ROTC will have spillover effects and the near total ignorance of today's university students regarding the military, especially on campuses without a lot of veterans, will disappear.
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12:12 AM on 03/05/2011
I wouldn't count on it. The Secretary of Defense, providing he had any nuts, should have told Faust and Harvard to kiss his butt.
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Christina Bussmann
Card-carrying, loud-mouth Liberal!
08:34 PM on 03/04/2011
Well done, Harvard. It's good to see that things are changing and old wounds are being healed. Now that the service has repealed "Don't Ask, Don't Tell," other universities will follow suit and lift the ROTC ban (which was justified if you know the history behind the ban.) A definite step in the right direction.
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lambdin1
What's this?
06:00 PM on 03/04/2011
Great! There is nothing wrong with the military except old men and women with old ideas. As a gay man in the Army during Vietnam I found discrimination abounded. Not only for gays but for many who were somehow different. We need new thinking in our military. Being rigid is ok but attitudes and decsions made, need to keep up with the rest of the world.
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isis
Job 39:5 - Who has sent out the wild ass free?
09:38 AM on 03/05/2011
I totally agree with you as a victim of an ex-military boss. The top down style and rigid thinking are not good leadership traits. Maybe that worked in the days of cave men but no longer. Being pampered and privileged in your career doesn't create empathy and just makes a leader who is so cocky that he doesn't see the pitfalls ahead. We have been mired in several wars. It's time to ask ourselves why.
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ShowMeC6
Equal Justice, Not Social Justice....
06:33 PM on 03/05/2011
....so the people under the boss should be calling the shots? Empathy? How about, "I need this project done and I need it by a certain time, that's why I'm paying you." Yes, I'm sure that "rigid" style of leadership is only used by those "cocky" ex-military types and not by civilian types who wish to be successful....you poor victim.
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lambdin1
What's this?
12:28 PM on 03/05/2011
At the base of any war is economics. It is often disquised by other things but it is economics. Our next world war has already begun. It is a war of economics.
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johnminehan
05:40 PM on 03/04/2011
Ceratinly, Harvard and other Ivy League Grads have served with distinction in all our wars (such as a young Infantry Company Commander by the name of Oliver Wendall Holmes, Jr.). On the other hand, the existing programs at Penn, Princeton and Cornell (parts of which started life as a Land Grant University with a mandatory Cadet Corps in the 19th Century) are usually not over-subscrbed.
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End All Empire
04:24 PM on 03/04/2011
Oh this is sooooo GREAT! Now because the military war machine lets gays in to serve our Empire, our so called "intellectuals" deem their legitimacy. So, they are for LGBT (not sure about the T yet...) but against BASIC human rights. Such as the right not to be under indiscriminate bombing! I can't believes liberals fall for this sheet! How anti-intellectual! Then again the liberal class has pretty much supported most major military attacks on other nations.
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dhinds
A Collection of Quotable Gems
09:10 PM on 03/04/2011
Your perceptions are accurate.
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lensman3
03:03 PM on 03/04/2011
Now maybe the military will become more liberal. My hope is that if students from a liberal university are available, then the entire military will move towards the left (a little bit).
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dhinds
A Collection of Quotable Gems
09:12 PM on 03/04/2011
How far to the left did the Commander and Chief turn out to be?

Who makes the decisions and who takes the orders?
02:44 PM on 03/04/2011
A generation ago universities removed ROTC classes. Since that time many in the public still hold the military in disdain. With animosity ROTC was removed but the feelings are still as potent. In no way should ivy league universities be allowed to have ROTC classes. The students who choose to take ROTC courses will be subjected to bigotry, hatred, and intolerance.

Leave the military the way it is now...primarily southern, white, Christian, and male.

Familiarity breeds contempt. Keep the military free of social progressives and it will remain the worlds strongest superpower. Put a bunch of ivy league types in power and we're in serious trouble.
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moutonnoir
iconoclastic demagoguery
02:54 PM on 03/04/2011
yeah... we are doing great now.. our military is the pride of the country..
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Proud Progressive
danger may be real, but fear is a choice.
03:51 PM on 03/06/2011
Not!
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Christina Bussmann
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08:42 PM on 03/04/2011
Not sure which military you're speaking of, but the American service is hardly predominately Southern white Christian males. It hasn't been that way since Korea.

Political ideology has nothing to do with fighting prowess. It's the tendency of "some" to wrap themselves in the flag to the exclusion of other proud Americans that is the real problem. Grab a weapon, stand to post and keep your bigoted ideology to yourself. We want people willing to fight in foxholes----orientation and ideology notwithstanding.
01:44 PM on 03/04/2011
It's about time ROTC operations return to normal at Harvard, like they have at most other universities. Over-reaction to that was just as bad as what "hawks" proposed during more stressful times, and I have a feeling the tax issues and present resentment of that "military-industrial complex" is going to require fewer recruits in the near-future.
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moutonnoir
iconoclastic demagoguery
01:25 PM on 03/04/2011
they should leteric prince privatize the entire military.; then they can answer to no one!
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dhinds
A Collection of Quotable Gems
09:22 PM on 03/04/2011
They already answer to no one.
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moutonnoir
iconoclastic demagoguery
01:23 PM on 03/04/2011
If I actively work to harm Halliburton - does that mean I can own stock in the company without guilt?
12:41 PM on 03/04/2011
How many students will we be subisdizing?

http://www.vcstar.com/news/2011/mar/02/hueneme-high-senior-earns-180000-navy-rotc/

At a 180,000.00 it can get expensive.
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eljefefx
12:44 PM on 03/04/2011
Seriously, what is your problem?
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moutonnoir
iconoclastic demagoguery
01:23 PM on 03/04/2011
we dont subsidize students here.. only mercenaries. students can all just get lost - they will just turn out liberal anyway.
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eljefefx
03:30 PM on 03/04/2011
What made you hate us so much?
12:34 PM on 03/04/2011
Harvard found a way to suck up tax payer dollars without encountering genreral dissent. Nothing surprising here and has nothing to do with gay rights. Afterall ROTC left Harvard shortly after 1969 but didn't have their funding cut off until 1995. For 20 years they had no presence but still received funding. And to date the Military Code of Justice has not been changed so homosexuality is still not allowed.

DADT wan't passed until 1993.
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eljefefx
12:38 PM on 03/04/2011
Let's see if you can actually find the section in the UCMJ where it says that.
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patman77
12:11 PM on 03/04/2011
why...so they can thump peacenics that choose to protest this.
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CDRUSNret
01:04 PM on 03/04/2011
thanks for adding to the intelligent discourse.
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corte33
12:08 PM on 03/04/2011
ROTC is a good thing, especially if you want a career with the military. It also instills pride in oneself. Granted, you won't have foreign students in the ROTC, since all they want is an education. You won't have Harvard MBA students in ROTC, since most of them want to get rich and work on Wall Street. As a former Marine, I'm all for it.
12:27 PM on 03/04/2011
It also hands you a 500.00 a month stipend on the tax payers' dollar while paying your tuition.
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Christina Bussmann
Card-carrying, loud-mouth Liberal!
08:48 PM on 03/04/2011
In exchange for an obligation to serve in the military for a term of years. Sounds like the best investment taxpayers have made in a long time.