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Etsy Privacy Debacle: Site Changes Defaults After Exposing Users' Real Names, Purchases (UPDATED)

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The Huffington Post   First Posted: 03/15/11 08:08 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:40 PM ET

[NOTE: An earlier version of this post incorrectly stated that Etsy had revealed users' email addresses. Etsy does not publicly display the email addresses of its users. We regret the error.]

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Online vintage and craft marketplace Etsy recently sparked outrage after the site's buyers suddenly discovered that their feedback posts, purchases, user profiles and, in some cases, their real names had been made public and searchable.

On Tuesday, Etsy bowed to customers' demands and tweaked its privacy defaults after users took to the the site's public forums with complaints and concerns about their intimate purchases popping up in Google searches.

Ars Technica highlights some of the extreme cases, in which users were able to uncover the real-world identities of Etsy users who had recently purchased or left feedback for sex toy listings. Writes one user, according to Ars Technica: "Found an XXL glass dildo with veins and swirled gold coloring (beautiful piece really) and checked to see if anyone favorited it. Someone did. She also favorited some cosplay cat eat hats [sic] and a bell collar/necklace thing. Then I found her on Facebook."

Another user outlines a similar scenario:

"I just found a woman who's Etsy profile comes up on Google as the 5th link. I was expecting 6 or 7 pages down, but it's on the very first page, right after her online resumes," wrote one concerned user on the Penny Arcade forums. "She signed up a year ago, under the old privacy policy, and hasn't logged in since 2010. And now I know what dildo she uses. Right down to the curvature and coloring."

How did Etsy let this happen?

Last week the site rolled out a People Search tool, which let users search for other users by name. Designed to make Etsy more "social," the new search feature was intended to help users create "Circles" of friends, who could view one another's purchased and "favorited" items. Users' purchasing histories had previously been public on Etsy, but only sellers were searchable by name, writes Gothamist. The People Search feature apparently made everyone searchable--buyers and sellers alike.

Buyers are claiming that Etsy did not give adequate notification before making the change, according to Ars Technica.

Etsy CEO Rob Kalin and COO Adam Freed responded to the controversy in a post on the Etsy Blog. They wrote:

Were there changes to Etsy that made my purchases public?

No. The issue here is our Feedback system, which has not changed in six years. We do not directly publish your purchases on Etsy. However, when a seller leaves feedback for an item you bought, or you leave feedback for an item you purchased, we would link to the item. Our Feedback system has always worked this way; our original thinking was that it's important to know more about the transaction, to better establish trust in the marketplace.

We added the option to enter your real name when registering. Right next to this text field, it says: "Your full name will appear on your public profile. This is optional." Some people enter their name, some don't. As of right now, 25% of people (including us) have entered their real name.

It is the confluence of these two things that led us to this position: if you enter your real name, purchase an item, and the seller leaves feedback for this item, this purchase will be publicly visible via our Feedback system. Search engines index our site, which means this data can turn up there, too. It's been this way since October. [...]

We believe that markets are conversations. We want people to discuss what they purchase, although this will often mean discussing it in private. As such, we have removed the link from a piece of feedback (which is public) to the item that was purchased (which is now private).

UPDATE: Etsy further clarified how it has revised its privacy policy, following outcry, in a Q&A post in the site's forums. Writes Etsy,

From now on, all purchases and feedback are set to private. [...] When others view your feedback, they will not see your username, real name, or details about the item you purchased.

Purchases and feedback will be private for both buyers and sellers. Sellers' feedback ratings will still be visible, as will a seller's feedback left for others.

Etsy is also working to mitigate the damage done by the indexing of users' feedback in search, information that linked to details about users' purchases and personal information.

"We are working to remove existing Etsy feedback pages from Google’s index. Feedback pages will not be indexed by Google and other search engines going forward," according to the post.

In addition, the Q&A post also includes a direct link to the privacy settings, which users can modify according to preference. We have contacted Etsy for comment.

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12:42 PM on 03/21/2011
There is yet another privacy related issue emerging today (3.21.11). You can find the discussion here:
http://www.etsy.com/teams/7718/site-help/discuss/6826133/page/1
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07:10 PM on 03/18/2011
Etsy started out as a place to buy and sell handmade and has morphed into a mini mart for items that are massed produced. Honest sellers who stay are forced into social networking and 'teams'. Many sellers, including myself, moved to another site called Artfire.
06:40 AM on 03/18/2011
So Etsy believes that "markets should be conversations... we want people to discuss what they purchase." Why should a market be a "conversation"? Why should anybody discuss their purchases with everybody else on the site? Whatever happened to just minding your own business and letting people buy your products with privacy? This trend to force a convergence betweeen social media and sales has gone too far.

I am glad now that I never bought anything on Etsy. I am leery of the site's privacy policy now, despite their efforts to do damage control, and I don't think I will ever want to visit it.
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tooncesrocks
my micro bio is empty
07:38 PM on 03/17/2011
Etsy trying to make money at the user's expense
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pottedferne
08:25 AM on 03/17/2011
I agree with alleycat about the social networking craze getting out of hand. One of the craft sites I belong to is "requiring" personal preferences and info to remain a member. Too bad, I really liked them.
01:04 PM on 03/17/2011
It is a shame that you feel like you are getting pushed out of sites you enjoy due to social networking demands. But there is a difference between social networking and social commerce. Many e-commerce sites are moving towards that model because research shows that it works. HOWEVER, social commerce should still function while maintaining user's privacy.

Shoply recently posted a blog in response to all the privacy issues discussing the relationship between social commerce and user safety, which can be read here: http://blog.shoply.com/2011/03/social-commerce-privacy-security/
AllyCat7
Snarks need not reply.
05:21 AM on 03/17/2011
This whole "socializing" craze has gone too far!
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pottedferne
08:23 AM on 03/17/2011
yes it has!
02:47 AM on 03/17/2011
Horrifically unethical, and alarmingly typical of the lack of respect they show their account holders. I've been a buyer on Etsy since 2006.

No more.

I'm a buyer on Art Fire now.
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08:25 PM on 03/16/2011
Why would genuine sellers be associated with a site selling sex toys? I believe there are sites specializing in those industries already. What happened to the handmade crafts idea? How can users be assured that it will never happen again?

We sell handmade and household goods. Never sold a an item there for 3 years even at bargain prices and paid listing fees for nothing. Found out that there is a new secure venue at auctions8.com to use as an online showcase all for free. NO adult themes for a change!
07:15 PM on 03/16/2011
Wow. I didn't know they sold dil dos on etsy.
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ESJ247
I eat micro-bio with milk.
06:09 PM on 03/16/2011
Why does every website want to be "social"? I'm getting tired of seeing Facebook and Twitter icons on every website.
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RATMWiccan
"Time you enjoy wasting, was not wasted."
06:30 PM on 03/16/2011
LOL, like when I just clicked the favorite button on your post!
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markie G
...all 6's, 7's + 9's
07:54 PM on 03/16/2011
absolutely SICK of the twitter and facebook icons---please, H-P, make it go away
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Clare53
07:50 PM on 03/16/2011
The L.A. Times is trying out just using Facebook accounts on their comment boards. They use your name and picture then send a notification of any responses to your FB notifications. It's very creepy. They are trying it out because the comments sections is so screwed up. I guess it never occurred to them to fix the system they have.
08:25 AM on 03/17/2011
That's a terrible idea. The last thing I want is my opinions of things to be associated with my real name. There is a reason we vote anonymously. Not as many people would be willing to speak their mind. People will end up getting fired because they made a comment that wasn't inline with conservative views.
05:00 PM on 03/17/2011
Wow. Guess I won't be bothering with their articles anymore. I've never had a facebook, and any site that doesn't want to speak to me for that reason can have all the silence they want. Sure hope they know what they're doing. (But I doubt it.)

Wonder what Facebook's paying 'em for this encouragement to sign up, hmm?
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phoebequeen
I blame the dog
05:47 PM on 03/16/2011
I've purchased items on Esty before. Never cool to publish names and info.
05:01 PM on 03/16/2011
Now would be a good time to start up a rival website.
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RATMWiccan
"Time you enjoy wasting, was not wasted."
06:32 PM on 03/16/2011
No other sites ever get the traffic that Etsy and eBay do! It will never work, but if it did....yes, now would be a good time!
05:01 PM on 03/17/2011
They might now.
11:13 AM on 03/16/2011
I buy and sell on Etsy, but when I signed up I used my business name as my personal name. I guess I'll have to double-check my settings. I think it's stupid that they're trying to make Etsy social. Etsy was supposed to be the eBay for crafters...now it's so kitschy. I mean...Gwyneth Paltrow mentions Etsy in her GOOP newsletter. Yeesh.
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RATMWiccan
"Time you enjoy wasting, was not wasted."
06:34 PM on 03/16/2011
Yeah, I sell there too and when I google my personal name, my Etsy comes up even though I used my business name!
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paulbenjouse
Media Futurist
10:32 AM on 03/16/2011
A classic example of how ANY company you deal with on the net can expose your personal information. It's astonishing to me that there hasn't been a sweeping backlash by consumers to get government regulation on privacy concerns.
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feliznavidad
Fierce liberal
09:17 PM on 03/16/2011
I got off Facebook immediately when they exposed information. And I stay off. Remember that Huff Post!