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Anthony Weiner: Obama Is 'Not A Values Guy'


First Posted: 03/16/11 05:58 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:40 PM ET

WASHINGTON -- Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-N.Y.) and a handful of other House Democrats expressed deep frustration with President Barack Obama's leadership on Wednesday, saying he needs to do more to set the direction for the progressive movement.

Across the aisle, House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) has struggled to wrangle the various wings of his conference and pass budget measures through the lower chamber. Weiner told a group of journalists and bloggers on Capitol Hill that the Republican leader has a tough job of trying to hold "a coalition of crazies and completely crazies together."

But Republicans, Weiner said, have nonetheless long done a better job of making their case -- "smaller government, smaller deficits, lower taxes" -- to the public and each other. The Democratic Party remains unclear as to its core policy principles, Weiner said, and part of the problem is Obama.

"On our side is this weird squishy affirmative sense of what government should do and how we're opposed to this cut and that cut, rather than saying, 'Here are the things: Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, environment and education. We're not cutting those. Those are off the table. That's non-negotiable,'" said Weiner, adding, "We haven't really done that very well. That's because the president fundamentally -- he's not a values guy. He wants to try to get the best deal for the American people and that's virtuous in its own right, but it becomes very difficult to make a strategy. There's been much greater global strategy thinking on [progressive media] outlets, frankly, than at 1600 Pennsylvania."

When asked by The Huffington Post whether what's happening at the state and local level with labor unions and budget battles would rise to the national stage, Weiner said that the leadership of national officials -- including the president -- will be essential to push the issue forward.

"We've spent a lot of time waiting for Godot when it comes to the Obama White House, and we kind of -- to some degree -- have to internalize the idea that, you know what? That's probably not the way to go," Weiner said. "We have to start initiating some of this."

Continued Weiner: "It is now pretty clear to me -- I'm not saying this is pejorative -- the president, he doesn't animate his day by saying, 'All right, what is the thing that has me fired up today? I'm going to out and try to move the ball on it.' He kind of sees his job as to take this calamitous noise that's going on on the left with people like us and on the right on Fox News, and his path to being a successful president, in his view, is taking that cacophony and trying to make good, level-headed, smart policy out of it and moving it incrementally down the road. That's nice. That's a good thing. We need that, obviously. The problem is there's no substitute for someone really leaning into these values questions. "

Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio) was also at the gathering and later added, in reference to labor and budget battles, "The only regret I have is that the White House isn't fighting back against this. It's one thing to say, 'Well, I stand behind the workers -- how far behind, I don't know.' It's another thing to say, 'I stand with them and in front of them to protect their rights.' And I'm waiting for that to happen."

And Rep. Peter DeFazio (D-Ore.) said he hoped his party would stand together on the fight to raise the debt ceiling later this year. Since many of the more hardline Republican freshmen will vote against it as a matter of course, DeFazio predicted, GOP leaders are likely to need the cooperation of Democrats and may be open to compromise.

"Republicans are going to have a hard time getting the votes," he said. "The first people who are going to get hit are the people on Wall Street, the bond houses and others, who are the biggest supporters of Republicans. So I think we have tremendous leverage on the debt limit. We should say there will not be a single Democratic vote on the debt limit until we put everything on the table. We're willing to look at any spending, but we also have to look at revenue."

DeFazio added that he hopes Obama stands with congressional Democrats rather than agreeing to a compromise with the Republicans, as he did a few months ago on the tax cuts.

"The problem is the negotiator-in-chief and where he'll end up, and whether we can put some steel in his spine," he said. "I assume he caved in on taxes in December because he was blackmailed on the treaty with Russia with nuclear weapons, which was absolutely critical. But that's pretty pathetic also."

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WASHINGTON -- Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-N.Y.) and a handful of other House Democrats expressed deep frustration with President Barack Obama's leadership on Wednesday, saying he needs to do more to set th...
WASHINGTON -- Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-N.Y.) and a handful of other House Democrats expressed deep frustration with President Barack Obama's leadership on Wednesday, saying he needs to do more to set th...
 
 
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irishgramm
04:08 PM on 04/01/2011
I love Anthony Weiner and he makes so much sense as he plays devils advocate in understanding the Presidents way of handling issues. I do agree with Rep. Weiner, the President was being blackmailed at the end of last year to agree to a 2 yr. extention of the hated Bush Tax Cuts to pass the treaty with Russia and extend unemployment benefits from the JUST SAY NO group in the Senate, and don't forget getting rid of DADT.

But I too am waiting for that resounding support speech from the President for what is happening in Minn., Ohio, Indiana, Michigan etc and to union busting, voter rights, womens and childrens rights and the attack on education. Is the President waiting for the election season to start hammering it home?????.............. It's real clear to me what the Repbulicans/Teabaggers want and are in fact doing while they destroy this country, what's not quite so clear is what the President wants and in fact WILL do to save it from the extreme idiology of ultra Conservatism and Teabagger warped backward thinking mentality.
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Jaczar
Humanity above Profit
09:21 AM on 03/19/2011
Anthony Weiner needs to be the Democratic challenger to Obama in 2012. It would be good for both of them. Obama would see what the support for a "true liberal" is, and Weiner would gain national recognition for a run in 2016. Weiner has much more "heart" than Obama, though Obama seemed to have it when he was a candidate, but lost it along the way. I suppose Washington does that to you.
Sad.
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LightSnowOvernight
A worker in song
05:58 PM on 03/18/2011
I like your screen name..one of my favorite songs
05:57 PM on 03/18/2011
Weiner is right, but part of the problem is that everyone expected Obama to be the messiah coming into the job, and he's not. He' just another politician. He was the best choice we had, and will be again in 2012, but he's no FDR or Kennedy. Hell, even FDR and Kennedy weren't, early on.

The man is a diplomat more than a trailblazer. He's trying to thread the needle between what he wants to do and what the political climate will allow. Until we change the political climate, he's not gonna get any better.
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Jaczar
Humanity above Profit
09:23 AM on 03/19/2011
You're correct of course, but we still look for more.
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batguano
As Long As Grass Grow, Wind Blow & The Sky Is Blue
09:41 AM on 03/18/2011
Even though I agree that Prez obama has done little if anything to build or support a progressive base (as Clinton also failed to do), and in fact done much to sabotage and diminish progressive issues and adherents/heroes, your personal credibility is shot all to Hey after claiming repeatedly in the recent debate that there “is no Israeli occupation or IDF presence in the West Bank”; those statements, so at odds with reality, really tests a persons belief in you Tony, as a progressive, or person of integrity (or of basic understanding of the status of the current “conflict” or its history. Whatever you were “thinking”, (or whoever, whatever was pulling your strings) please stop and grab a dose of truth and integrity and stop making idiotic, factually absurd comments like those.

All that being said, I believe Obama is just another Chicago politician with a tenuous grasp on leadership other than as political scheming and manipulation. His moral compass and sense of honor and integrity seem seriously askew on many issues, policies and personnel of his administration.

Some say a man is what he says,
I say, a man is what he fights for.

And Obama, IMO, has fought for so little to the benefit of the Common Good and justice/equality for the common man.
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CrazyThisIs
An eye for an eye only makes the whole world blind
02:07 PM on 03/18/2011
So, Anthony Weiner has a blind spot on the topic of West Bank settlements. All people have blind spots when it comes to certain things in their life. Is there one politician out there that you feel sees things EXACTLY as you do? Please!

To the point, his comments here are observeable, proveable, measureable facts. If you have an issue with what he says, say so. Sounds, though, like you agree with Rep Weiner here, you just don't like the guy.

P.S. calling him Tony, just makes you look petty.
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Marcospinelli
an old liberal Democrat, a 'New Deal'-Democrat
05:55 PM on 03/18/2011
Obama and the DLC worked their butts off to PREVENT more progressives/liberals from getting elected. Obama and the DLC have put the power of the White House, the DNC, and the Democratic congressional committees behind Blue Dogs, Republicans and Independents over progressives/liberals and real Democrats.  Some, but not all, examples: 

Blue Dog Blanche Lincoln over progressive Democrat Lt. Governor Bill Halter. 

Republican-turned-Independent Arlen Specter over progressive Democrat Joe Sestak. 

Republican-turned-Independent Lincoln Chaffee over Democrat Frank Caprio (which, in turn, is an effective endorsement of the Republican John Loughlin over Democrat David Cicilline for the congressional seat Democrat Patrick Kennedy is retiring from, and all of the other seats up for grab in Rhode Island). 

Republican-turned-Independent Charlie Crist over liberal Democrat Kendrick Meek. 

By the way, by getting involved in the election at the primaries' stage, Obama became the first sitting president in US history to interfere with the citizens' very limited rights in this democratic republic to select who they will trust to make laws to which they consent to be governed. 

Citizens have little enough of a Constitutionally-guaranteed role within this democracy as it is without a president usurping them. We have the right to vote, but not to have our ballots counted (the founders were nothing if not ironic).  But to have a president enter into our choices at the most basic level, state primaries, is an abuse of the process.

Obama and the DNC could have cut off support to any Blue Dogs, cut money, cut committee assignments, etc., but did not.

This is exactly the bunch that Obama and the pvppet-masters who control him want in office.  On both sides of the aisle.  Obama, Ds & Rs in office, working on behalf of transnational corporations.   

New faces within the Democratic Party wouldn't be any different from those already there.  The party machinery recruits and backs those who will carry the same torch, and that's true for both the Republican and Democratic Parties.
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Jaczar
Humanity above Profit
09:28 AM on 03/19/2011
Perhaps in the end you must support those whom you think can win? But I agree there were better candidates in many instances.
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03:55 AM on 03/18/2011
It is so obvious how obnoxious the repugniklans are, how is it possible they have any power in the country? They are rotten to the core.
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vnomad
01:26 AM on 03/18/2011
well about godamn time a Democrat mentioned the need for the president to opt for an elective spinal reinforcement procedure.....I've read it's often useful for attaining a second presidential term.

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DeFazio added that he hopes Obama stands with congressional Democrats rather than agreeing to a compromise with the Republicans, as he did a few months ago on the tax cuts.

"The problem is the negotiator-in-chief and where he'll end up, and whether we can put some steel in his spine," he said. "I assume he caved in on taxes in December because he was blackmailed on the treaty with Russia with nuclear weapons, which was absolutely critical. But that's pretty pathetic also."
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Robson
Apolitical / nonpartisan blogging on HP since 2005
09:27 PM on 03/17/2011
Our biased corrupt USA election laws would ensure that a politician that advocates zealously for the advancing the interests of the American people by cutting corporate welfare, aid to Israel or Egypt, and going after the Wall Street thieves would be chastised by the corporations and the media.

The crux of our US problem is a government of politicians that serve every entity but the US people.
08:57 PM on 03/17/2011
"On our side is this weird squishy affirmative sense of what government should do and how we're opposed to this cut and that cut, rather than saying, 'Here are the things: Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, environment and education. We're not cutting those. Those are off the table. That's non-negotiable,'" said Weiner, adding, "We haven't really done that very well. That's because the president fundamentally -- he's not a values guy. He wants to try to get the best deal for the American people and that's virtuous in its own right, but it becomes very difficult to make a strategy. There's been much greater global strategy thinking on [progressive media] outlets, frankly, than at 1600 Pennsylvania."

Weiner, if you run for pres you have my vote!!!
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Jaczar
Humanity above Profit
09:34 AM on 03/19/2011
I second that. See earlier post.
Joel Smithis
Small business owner
07:16 PM on 03/17/2011
The fact is that without Wall Street money no one can get elected. I would put all my money on the bet that if Obama went after Wall Street, he would get destoyed by The Right as communist irresponsible arrogant muslim.

He wouldn't have enough money to defend himself and would lose! That's the reality of American electorate ignorance!
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Neufield
FRESNO - CA
02:36 PM on 03/18/2011
Wall Street the Sham or Wall Street the Thief ? Which one would you support ?
02:35 AM on 03/26/2011
Dear Joel,

The democrats make as much money as the republicans from wall street, watch the money not the drama.
Joel Smithis
Small business owner
07:11 PM on 03/17/2011
The left got lazy with their messaging. Progressiv­es thought their message is self-evide­nt. GOP and TP proved that wrong with their lies. You have to hammer the message day and night, not just expect people would get it because it is superior!
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Dawityisrael
A Real Socialist & March Forward Veteran For Peace
06:48 PM on 03/17/2011
President Obama is losing his base and may very well end up being a one term president after all, which in my opinion suits me just fine. I am not concerned about the one percent, but the ninety-nine percent of us who are being affected everyday by these so-called painful cuts to basically EVERYTHING! Both Dems and Repubs are beholden to the corporate states of America and Wall Street. Both of these parties are clearly not speaking and working on behalf of the American people. We are all defined by our actions, and thus far these actions are not benefiting the American people. We need to be critical of our Decider-in-chief and hold him and all of them accountable. How about no longer falling for more false promises to start with. How about thinking, taking civil action and voting outside the box. This two party system is not working for most of us. Weiner may whine sometimes, but I think I understand what he was trying o communicate. Peace Ya'll!
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06:39 PM on 03/17/2011
Rep. Weiner is wrong on this one: President Obama is a values guy -- Wall Street&Co. values.

These people paved way and paid for his election to the highest office and they rightly expect a return on their investment, which the President faithfully delivers, the values guy that he is.
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lpenny
05:46 PM on 03/17/2011
The Dem's should get their acts together and do what has to be done for the benefit of the public regardless of Obama. They should lead by example rather than following or waiting for a weak leader to take a stand. Rather than complaining they should be formulating policies and put forth legislation that would benefit the average person. Rather than waiting for Obama to deliver the message they should deliver that message otherwise they are merely using him to cover their own lack of convictions.
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PhineasGage730
02:42 AM on 03/18/2011
You have no idea what you're talking about.
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batguano
As Long As Grass Grow, Wind Blow & The Sky Is Blue
10:08 AM on 03/18/2011
How about specifics on lpenny's comments rather than abusive and demeaning one-liners? Let's see if you know what you're talking about.
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ChasG
Unborn, unchanging, undying Universe
04:55 PM on 03/17/2011
The Democratic party's "core policy principles" --- code for "ideology."  It's no surprise to hear this ideology-driven criticism coming from a progressive Democrat.  They represent to the liberal and moderate center-left Dems what the Tea Party reprresents to the GOP-- the road to defeat-- be divided, and be conquered.
 
Or learn to agree to disagree without condemnation, learn to compromise, which is actually the "core value" of every democracy.
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Marcospinelli
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06:22 PM on 03/17/2011
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06:44 PM on 03/17/2011
Compromise sounds good, doesn't it -- so reasonable, mature, appealing to our nobler natures.

Unfortunately, in this case the compromise involves our very existence, denies us our say-so in the matter, and is not met with any meaningful concessions from the other side, making it appear more like an extortion or a hold-up than a compromise.

But let's call it compromise, sure: this makes our demise somewhat easier to swallow.
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ChasG
Unborn, unchanging, undying Universe
07:23 PM on 03/17/2011
Please be specific about how our very existence has been compromised?
 
Please be specific about which of Obama's promises successfully compromised into law where we did not get any concessions?
 
When the choices are compromise or get nothing, compromise is generally the preferred choice at least half of the time.
 
I'd like to engage in this discussion with you more, because we may find we want the same outcomes, but you have to be more specific in your criticism to engage.
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batguano
As Long As Grass Grow, Wind Blow & The Sky Is Blue
10:20 AM on 03/18/2011
So-called "compromise" has for the most part, translated into capitulation; capitulation to Wall St greed, to banker abuses, to big pharma, the health care/insurance industry, big oil, for-profit war, fill in all the rest, that have been "compromised" into vast wealth and power for a few, while the average family/person is struggling to just maintain and survive. The Obama administration from the giddyup has been concerned with image as far as the electorate goes, and and on campaign contribution cash from those who receive vast amounts of corporate welfare, tax breaks, reduced oversight, "relaxation" of statute limitations (read: the rescission of Glass-Steagall), or refusal to back re-instatement, and much, much more. "Compromise" has been mostly a one-way street from this administration.