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Afghanistan Withdrawal Acceleration Resolution Defeated In The House


First Posted: 03/17/11 06:10 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:40 PM ET

WASHINGTON -- The House overwhelmingly defeated on Thursday a nonbinding resolution to withdraw all U.S. troops from Afghanistan by the end of the year.

The vote, which failed by a margin of 93 to 321, followed a two-hour debate that involved a brief protest and a lengthy discussion of national security and budget cuts. But what surprised some observers is that the bill, authored by Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio), made it to the House floor at all.

Kucinich's proposed resolution would have invoked the War Powers Resolution and directed President Barack Obama to remove troops from Afghanistan "by no later than the end of the period of 30 days beginning on the day on which this concurrent resolution is adopted," or by no later than Dec. 31 if that proved impossible.

"We are getting a lot of questions about how the Kucinich Resolution came to the House Floor," the press staff of House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) tweeted during the debate, pointing inquirers to the House Rules Committee website. Cantor spokeswoman Laena Fallon told The Huffington Post that her office wasn't getting angry responses, just general inquiries about parliamentary process.

One Democratic House staffer told The Huffington Post that Republicans could have stopped the resolution, at least temporarily, by filing a rule to block it. However, Kucinich could then have filed another resolution to be taken up in 15 days. Another Democratic staffer familiar with the matter said the GOP leadership never attempted to block the measure.

Eight Republicans supported the resolution, while 99 Democrats joined the opposition to it. Rep. Justin Amash (R-Mich.) voted "present," explaining in a Facebook post that he agreed with the goals of the Kucinich resolution but believed it used unconstitutional means.

Amash was the only freshman Republican who attended the vote but did not cast a ballot against the resolution. Eighteen House members spoke in favor of the Kucinich measure, and 14 spoke against it.

Supporters of the resolution often invoked a fiscal argument, saying that lawmakers concerned about cutting the federal deficit should look seriously at withdrawing troops. "Overall, government spending has increased 9 percent, 2008 through 2011, but Afghanistan war spending has increased 25 percent," Kucinich said. "You want to save $100 billion? Then vote for this resolution."

Others argued that U.S. national security resources were being ill-used in an unwinnable war, and Rep. Bob Filner (D-Calif.) praised the opportunity to have such a debate. "It's like the 600-pound elephant in the nation, this war has gone on and we never discuss about it," Filner said.

Gen. David Petraeus, who testified before the House and Senate armed services committees this week, was the most-quoted figure by opponents of the Kucinich resolution, who argued that progress is being made in Afghanistan and "cutting and running" would simply embolden the enemy -- akin to years' worth of arguments against redeployment from Iraq.

"I know we cannot afford to fund this war indefinitely, but some think that cutting and running immediately from Afghanistan is a solution," freshman Rep. Tim Griffin (R-Ark.) said. "That's simply not an option. This is a reckless resolution."

Several lawmakers also hit back against the fiscal argument, with Rep. Ted Poe (R-Texas) saying, "War is expensive, and it should not be measured in the cost of money, which has been the discussion today."

"I've heard before some of my colleagues who support an American retreat from Afghanistan describe this effort as a fiscal matter," added Rep. Steve Chabot (R-Ohio). "I'd respond to that argument by simply stating, it's not a question of whether we can afford to fund a military presence in Afghanistan -- it's a matter of whether we can afford not to, particularly at this point."

The debate, like the final vote, did not break down strictly along partisan lines. Republican Reps. Jason Chaffetz (Utah), Jimmy Duncan (Tenn.), Walter Jones (N.C.), Ron Paul (Texas) and Dana Rohrabacher (Calif.) all spoke in favor of the resolution, while Democratic Rep. Howard Berman (D-Calif.) spoke against it. The five Republicans were joined in the final vote by Reps. John Campbell (Calif.), Howard Coble (R-N.C.) and Tim Johnson (Ill.).

Kucinich introduced a similar resolution last year, but that one received just 65 votes. Three Republicans -- Chaffetz, Coble and Rohrabacher -- voted against that measure but for the new one.

During Chaffetz's speech Thursday, a protester in the gallery reportedly shouted, "We are the global terrorist nation!"

A February poll by Gallup/USA Today found that 72 percent of Americans support Congress taking up the issue of an accelerated withdrawal from Afghanistan.

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WASHINGTON -- The House overwhelmingly defeated on Thursday a nonbinding resolution to withdraw all U.S. troops from Afghanistan by the end of the year. The vote, which failed by a margin of 93 to...
WASHINGTON -- The House overwhelmingly defeated on Thursday a nonbinding resolution to withdraw all U.S. troops from Afghanistan by the end of the year. The vote, which failed by a margin of 93 to...
 
 
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RichardinDelmar
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04:19 PM on 03/22/2011
There are two points of interest: the increased bipartisan strength of the resolution in the house and increased bipartisanship of stopping in Afghanistan and in the nascent Libyan action.
These are matters of key importance to all of us. Even some who voted against have expressed interest in Afghan withdrawal, just not at this speed.
Equally important is bringing the war acts legislation forward for discussion. This should be repealed, making it necessary for the president, any president, to ask congress for legal approval prior to engaging in any military action.
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FACTISFACT
A war veteran. Finally retired
06:01 PM on 03/20/2011
Which ever way the decision came it went in favor of the democrats. GOP has to learn Politic. Politics is a game of wits and depth of knowledge. And GOP lacks in both these subjects, but is very smart in cut and pocket.
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Vegan Girl
Compassion for all
09:45 PM on 03/19/2011
Come 2012, when we vote out the people attacking women, children, seniors, teachers, unions, and the American working class in general, we must also remember to vote out the war-mongers.
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Erewhon7
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01:44 AM on 03/20/2011
Not to mention fear- mongers, politically correct nonsense spouters, antediluvian isolationists and Depends wearers.
02:52 PM on 03/19/2011
The reaon that the measure reached the floor is that the Republican leadership knew that it would be overwhelmingly defeated. It's called politics.
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Erewhon7
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01:45 AM on 03/20/2011
As long as the resolution is defeated it doesn't matter it's politics or not.
U.N. mandate has not been fulfilled, troops must stay as long as necessary.
03:28 PM on 03/20/2011
Agreed. It was an added bonus that all these "real americans" could do the "patriotic thing" and vote the resolution down. How is that a goal of saving American lives and resources became a un-patriotic thing?
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wethepeople3884
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01:10 PM on 03/19/2011
How many democratic countries can have their so called elected representatives contradict the will of 72 percent of the public which they purport to represent?? If republicans genuinely gave a hoot about the budget deficit more than eight of them would have supported a bill to stop flushing billions down the toilet every day in a country halfway around the world.
02:19 PM on 03/19/2011
Which is why I would like to see a proposal requiring every member of congress be required to have children of age be required to serve in combat operations after intensive boot camp training. In otherwards they would be subject to a draft. Not Americans but congressional leaders' children. Watch how quickly we would be departing
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12:24 PM on 03/19/2011
Hate to agree with him, but you go, boy! Keep trying, it's a matter of time. Public opinion is tilted toward a withdrawal. Good news on another front, though: the President didn't allow the neocons to push him head first into Libya
12:21 PM on 03/19/2011
America is addicted to war and like any addiction it is extremely difficult to break the habit no matter how much it costs or how destructive it is. It is obvious to most people with a brain that this war is doomed to failure and is costing a fortune at a time we are in an economic recession bordering on a depression yet we cannot let it go.
11:20 AM on 03/19/2011
We are in expanding mode right now. Easy to start very hard to stop.
10:13 AM on 03/19/2011
of course it wasn't passed. We need to keep throwing American money in another hole.We have nothing better to do with our hard earned money
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Photon55
09:21 AM on 03/19/2011
While the nation sinks deeper into economic chaos both public and private, it doesn't seem that common sense and rational thinking can apply in Washington DC The estimated trillions spent on the phony war in Iraq and the bungled one in Afghanistan will continue unabated. The majority of Americans know the "war" in Iraq should have never started and want the one in Afghanistan to end now. Our competitors around the wold are making progress while America has chosen a path of stagnation leading to misery with endless war, economic distress, dysfunctional government and an ungovernable people. When will the nation come to its senses and deal with a rational attempt to take the steps for its own survival and have not been apparent for some time and may never be forthcoming. The recent vote on Afghanistan assures no end in sight.
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05:01 AM on 03/19/2011
SACRIFICE??????????? can you say bush tax cuts!!!!!!!!! there has been no sacrifice except for middle and lower class Americans!!
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Vegan Girl
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09:49 PM on 03/19/2011
Of course the rich have sacrificed. They are sacrificing us.
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04:59 AM on 03/19/2011
we will remember who was ready for serious budget issues like this war!!!!! 2012 is coming soon.....real soon....
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Golemaximus
02:45 AM on 03/19/2011
Sadly the only positive thing about this is at least there was an effort to end the war. I have been working here for more than 3 years and can tell you none of those that voted against the war have a clue as to how poorly and stupidly this war is being conducted. 10 years and the Afghans are not ready to defend themselves? What makes anyone think another 4 years will make any difference is beyond me! One of those brilliant congressmen state we can't pull out now because to it being a critical time. That's BS! I saw very little reference to the 40 odd KIAs we suffer every month. I refuse to support any elected official including Obama that killed this bill or supports this sham! Get these troops home now!
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muck-raker
give me liberty or give me death
06:22 AM on 03/19/2011
Golemaximus agreed F&F...Most of our legislators are on the take from the mega corporations to include the "Defense Industry which spends much money on campaign financing. Today ALL Corporations have 5 Lobbyist or more to get our reps to take bribes...The Public, however, have NO lobbyist and NO VOICE....the perpetual Wars for OIL and resources will continue until we are bankrupt like russsia who tried it...the phrase coined from that fiasco "Afganistan the Cemetery for Empires"
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Golemaximus
07:13 AM on 03/19/2011
raker- You wouldn't believe the depth of corruption in this debacle on all sides. My time working here in Afghanistan I want to believe has been helpful to ending this debacle and taking care of our troops but I'm done. I return to the U.S. next month and will devote every effort to ending this war from that end. Thanks for the comment! F&F
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farmilyman
everything is illusion
02:18 AM on 03/19/2011
When will someone decide to nation build the US?
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larmar
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09:08 AM on 03/19/2011
Awesome Comment F&F
10:16 AM on 03/19/2011
excellant. F & F
01:57 AM on 03/19/2011
Perhaps because it was a stupid bill?
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Golemaximus
02:36 AM on 03/19/2011
Francesco - We will make sure your comment doesn't make it on the letters to the next of kin for the 40 plus that are KIA over each 30 day period.