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For Obama Administration, Libya Could Erase Gains From Egypt

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First Posted: 03/17/11 09:50 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:40 PM ET

WASHINGTON -- The Obama administration’s new-found willingness to back aerial bombing to protect rebels cornered by Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi's forces may signal a critical turning point for the fledgling democracy movement in the Middle East.

On Thursday, the United Nations Security Council passed a resolution by a 10-0 vote to ground Gaddafi’s air forces with a no-fly zone and halt his advance on the rebel city of Benghazi through an arms embargo and other measures. China, Russia, Brazil, India and Germany did not take part in the vote. The measures, in response to gains made by forces loyal to Gaddafi, lent urgency to the weeks-long standoff, and demonstrated just how tenuous a grip advocates of reform have in the region.

The heady days of the Tahrir Square protests could ultimately be overshadowed by the bloodshed in the streets of Benghazi, leaving the best efforts of the White House to foster democracy in the region swept away by events.

“Time is running out for the Libyan people,” said Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman John Kerry (D-Mass.) at a hearing on the Middle East uprisings. “The world needs to respond immediately.”

U.S. officials seemed to get the message. After resisting weeks of calls for a no-fly zone, the administration suddenly found itself leading the international community in crafting a more forceful strategy against Gaddafi as he launched his final push to destroy opposition forces.

“I'm happy that the Security Council appears to be poised to pass something but I'm concerned that the time it will take to actually do something -- mobilize military action -- on the ground, will allow the depraved tyrant to kill more people and possibly squash the uprising,” said Samer Shehata, who teaches Arab politics at Georgetown University, prior to the vote.

Despite military operations in Afghanistan and Iraq, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton didn’t flinch Wednesday when she said U.S. warplanes would bomb Libya’s defense systems to allow for a no-fly zone if the U.N. gave the go-ahead. But while an unprecedented invitation from the Arab League for Western nations to intervene against one of their own gave the administration political cover to act, there may be little U.S. policymakers can do to actually defeat the Libyan leader. More broadly, time could be running out to sustain the momentum for reform that began in Tunisia and flowered in Egypt.

“We lived in a sense of euphoria” after those autocratic regimes fell, said Dartmouth University North African expert Dirk Vandewalle. “Everything since then has been a little downhill. Even in Tunisia and Egypt we have not seen deep institutional reforms that would give one hope that these regimes have reformed themselves. The jury is still out.”

And then there is Bahrain, where even more may be on the line for American interests than in Libya. This week, while the world’s attention was turned elsewhere, the regime launched a violent crackdown aided by an influx of troops from Saudi Arabia.

While U.S. officials pushed to intervene in Libya, Undersecretary of State for Political Affairs William Burns echoed Clinton in taking a soft, vague line on the unrest in Bahrain, calling only for “productive dialogue between governments and opposition leaders.”

The seeming double standard on democracy -- good for opponents of Gaddafi, not so much for the Iranian-friendly Shiite minority challenging the government that gives safe harbor to the U.S. Navy’s Fifth Fleet -- illustrates the delicate dance being done by policymakers.

“Like many other aspects of foreign policy, there are always particularities and ambiguities” in why the United States might speak out forcefully for pro-democracy rebels in Libya and stand on the sidelines as Saudi tanks help put down like-minded protesters in Bahrain, said retired Army General Wesley Clark.

“One size doesn’t fit all,” Clark added. “You may get to the same place but at different rates in different ways in different places.”

The former commander of NATO forces during the 1999 Kosovo War, Clark wrote this week that based on past U.S. interventions, Libya doesn’t meet the test for military involvement.

The U.N. vote taken in New York may have come too late as troops loyal to Gaddafi close in on Benghazi. The leader’s son boasted on Wednesday that military operations would be “finished” in 48 hours.

Meanwhile, skeptics in Congress say the United States can ill-afford a third military intervention in a Muslim country, let alone one that carries the danger of a long-term engagement.

Sen. Richard Lugar (R-Ind.), the top Republican on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said he was “doubtful our interests are served” by launching a no-fly zone to protect Libyan civilians.

“If we are going to declare war against Libya, we ought to have a congressional declaration of war,” he said. Meddling in Libya, Lugar added, could set a precedent for getting involved in “a stream of civil wars” all over the globe because of “humanitarian considerations.”

Kerry, the committee chairman, dismissed the idea of having Congress issue a war declaration. Time is short, he said, adding that there is precedent for the White House to act without congressional blessing. In 1986, President Ronald Reagan ordered an air strike on Libya in retaliation for terrorist attacks against Western targets.

More hawkish observers, meanwhile, said that anything short of military action in Libya by the international community could sound the death knell for democracy not just there but across the Middle East.

“The lesson autocrats drew from revolutions in Tunisia and Egypt was that the key to their survival was preemptive reform. Gaddafi, however, provides an alternate strategy: even more brutal repression,” said Michael Rubin, a Middle East expert at the conservative American Enterprise Institute. “Had Libya fallen [to rebels], we'd be witnessing the regimes in Iran and Syria teetering on the edge of oblivion right now. Now that Gaddafi has rebounded, we see even moderate regimes” like Bahrain’s openly embracing the Libya model.

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06:08 PM on 04/22/2011
there are no gains in Egypt...potus bananamama hoped that Baradei or some other pro-western bozo will lead the country...instead military keep power soon to be shared with AQ
12:32 PM on 03/21/2011
"Trophy" photograph­s of US soldiers posing with the dead bodies of defenceles­s Afghan civilians they killed. One photo shows a US soldier lifting the head of a corpse by his head. A defenseless civilian shortly after they killed him.

http://www­.guardian.­co.uk/worl­d/2011/mar­/21/us-arm­y-kill-tea­m-afghanis­tan-posed-­pictures-m­urdered-ci­vilians

Libya, wake up, Egypt wakeup!
06:26 PM on 03/19/2011
This is purely a fight for Oil for UK's BP, France and USA.

If it was democracy Bahrain should be helped first. 70% of Shia population under sunni thugs from Khalifa family from Bahrain and Saudi Arabia.

Very soon you will see Libyan people impoverished and BP owning Libyan Oil wealth.
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05:50 PM on 03/19/2011
"Meddling in Libya, Lugar added, could set a precedent for getting involved in “a stream of civil wars” all over the globe"

"Precedent?!" If Eisenhower hadn't decided to topple Mosaddeq back in '53 maybe the world wouldn't be seeing these events today. America "set a precedent" on the Middle East half a century ago.
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12:01 PM on 03/19/2011
The critics view may be right but even the critics run a double standard when the question comes to helping Israel. What do the critics think if they are given the option to help Iran or Israel? I am certain even those Generals including all Bush followers would prefer helping Israel. Here, the critics are having a double standard because Israel has more WMDS than US and Iran has none yet. Then why voice so much against Iran and not Israel.

Obama Administration is looking after the Interest of Israel to survive otherwise Iran spreading its tentacle all over Mid-East would be more concerning to the critics than what the Obama administration is doing.

It is time for all to know that there are always some reasons when not all decision can solve equally all administrative problems. In short, as same types of medicine do not serve and acts to cure varieties of deceases. In particular, different decision has to be prescribed to avert enmity between humankind. It is more difficult and unthinkable when other supporters control a country.

I request the critics would criticize after taking into consideration of all facts on the ground that is of greater interest to the region and not only to a clan or segment of people. Please avoid criticizing in the light of overt factors only and not taking in consideration more important factual causes that would have larger adverse devastating impact on the region than it can be contemplated.
05:53 PM on 03/19/2011
Why voice so much against Iran and not Israel? Really? Who was it that has belligerently declared death and annilation to whom? Show me where Israel has declared utter annilation for Iran. You can't!!!
Does one have to show you what Iran has said about Israel? "Why voice so much against Iran and not Israel?" Really??? Better get your logical thinking cap on.
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08:24 PM on 03/19/2011
Hi! My Friend rmeloonjr thank you f your comment on FACTISFACT'S comment.

GACTISFACT has gone through your comment and requested you to read to read the complete sentence to assimilate the actual meaning of the factual theme of the sentence.

Your endeavor to sway the meaning in your interested way will not work as the sentence deals with possession of nuclear heads and criticism. If you know Hebrew here is the translated version of the sentence below for your better understanding my friend:

הנה, הביקורת שיש מוסר כפול, כי בישראל יש WMDS יותר מאשר ארה"ב לאיראן יש עדיין אף אחד. אז למה בקול כל כך הרבה נגד אירן ולא ישראל

However, thank you once again. Take care.
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03:16 PM on 03/21/2011
"Here, the critics are having a double standard because Israel has more WMDS than US"

That is not true.
01:04 AM on 03/19/2011
The revolutiion that occured in Egypt is less than 2 months old...exactly how fast does the USA want the reforms to take place?
11:14 PM on 03/18/2011
10 years late,r everybody on this site will be bad mouthing our involvement in Libya and how we used bad judgment. and how stupid Washington is. As they say hind-site is 20-20 and everybody knows what we should have done after the act.
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Jahoda
07:21 PM on 03/18/2011
In 2007, then Senator Obama warned then President Bush that by constitutional and federal law, he needed Congressional permission before he could take any military actions against the Iranian dictator. Now President Obama doesn't bother to ask for Congressional permission before taking military action against a dictator. Meet the new President, same as the old President.
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LinkTren
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03:25 PM on 03/18/2011
And Libya has now declared a cease fire, so what's the problem?
12:54 PM on 03/19/2011
they're still firing......
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03:18 PM on 03/18/2011
Canada is sending CF-18's, expected to be in Italy today! President Obama did this correctly.. - not the rush to Iraq on made up B.S. For this reason, he has allies, including Arabs. Don't underestimate the intelligence of your President!
03:41 PM on 03/18/2011
He moved slowly and reluctantly and was lead by others, notably France and Britain
This gave Ghaddafi time to regroup and gain territory
Libya may now be headed for a protracted civil war and the US for a prolonged involvement
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Jahoda
07:23 PM on 03/18/2011
He didn't bother to consult Congress.

So how are Gadaffi's treatment of his people any different from Saddam's? Hmmm

I'm waiting for the anti-war protests from Code Pink
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07:45 PM on 03/18/2011
Bush's wonderful adventure had nothing to do with how Saddam treated his people. It was all about vengeance, oil, Haliberton's potential profits, and manufactured b.s..

No matter what he had done his detractors would have found fault. Yesterday it was " he's a chicken"... today it is but...but....but... he's not leading... it's taking too long.

So... he did what was right, the right way. No cowboy swaggers, no arrogance.. no "shock and awe, no "if you're not with us, you're against us". So who cares about the haters.
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01:51 PM on 03/18/2011
On Lybia, and military intervention, Obama said,,"this is our greatest opportunity to realign our interests, and our values",,,Obama was referring to the broader change going on in the middle east, and the need to rebalance US Foreign policy towards a greater focus on Democracy and Human Rights. Http://bit.ly/gNNltz
03:41 PM on 03/18/2011
you mean the Bush doctrine
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Talab
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04:51 PM on 03/18/2011
Wasn't the Bush Doctrine " Yeeehaw pour some more water on him, Dick... look at him squirm"
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12:30 PM on 03/18/2011
Getting a consensus from other nations and the UN Security Council was a smart move. Very different from going to war on a whim as GWB was guilty of.
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Moti
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12:04 PM on 03/18/2011
Gains from Egypt?
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Jahoda
07:24 PM on 03/18/2011
Egypt is currently run by a military junta
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pakaal
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05:59 PM on 03/19/2011
...holding Democratic elections this very day. Congratulations to the people of Egypt!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/19/egyptians-to-vote-in-demo_n_837934.html
11:59 AM on 03/18/2011
This expectation that we are supposed to back some unknown opposition group with our $ and personel is ludicrous. Who wants to create another Bin laden.
11:24 AM on 03/18/2011
Libya has declared a cease-fire and will comply with the resolution. We'll see.