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NATO Agrees To Take Over Command Of Libya No-Fly Zone, U.S. Likely To Remain In Charge Of Brunt Of Combat

Hillary Clinton

AP/The Huffington Post   First Posted: 03/24/11 10:54 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:40 PM ET

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The United States welcomed a partial handover for the Libyan air campaign to NATO on Thursday, but the allies apparently balked at assuming full control and the U.S. military was left in charge of the brunt of combat.

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NATO agreed to take over command of the newly established no-fly zone over Libya, protective flights meant to deter Libyan strongman Moammar Gadhafi from putting warplanes in the air. That leaves the U.S. with responsibility for attacks on Gadhafi's ground forces and other targets, which are the toughest and most controversial portion of the operation.

The U.S had hoped the alliance would reach a consensus Thursday for NATO to take full control of the military operation authorized by the United Nations, including the protection of Libyan civilians and supporting humanitarian aid efforts on the ground. It was not immediately clear when the allies could reach agreement on the matter.

"We are taking the next step: We have agreed along with our NATO allies to transition command and control for the no-fly zone over Libya to NATO," Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said.

"All 28 allies have also now authorized military authorities to develop an operations plan for NATO to take on the broader civilian protection mission," Clinton said.

Lines of authority were unclear Thursday night, but it appeared the NATO decision sets up dual command centers and opens the door to confusion and finger-pointing. U.S. commanders would presumably be chiefly responsible for ensuring that the NATO protective flights do not conflict with planned combat operations under U.S. command.

The Pentagon indicated U.S. warplanes will keep flying strike missions over Libya.

Senior administration officials said the breakthrough came in a four-way telephone call with Clinton and the foreign ministers of Britain, France and Turkey. The four worked out the way forward, which included the immediate transfer of command and control of the no-fly zone over Libya, and by early next week of the rest of the U.N.-mandated mission.

The officials, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive military planning, said the actual handover of the no-fly zone would occur in one or two days. They said NATO would have a final operational plan by over the weekend for how it would assume control over the rest of the protection mission, and that it would be executable by Tuesday's meeting in London of nations contributing to the military action.

The officials said the decision of which commanders control which areas was still being worked out.

NATO's announcement came after nearly a week of U.S.-led air assaults, as the Obama administration pressed for a quick handoff. A series of disagreements, including questions of overall political control and how aggressive the mission should be, had held up the allies' agreement.

The U.S. assumed command of the operation, which began on Saturday, largely because it alone possesses the military wherewithal to coordinate the complex array of movements, targeting and intelligence collection that was required to enable the establishment of a protective no-fly zone over Libya. Now that Gadhafi's air force has been grounded and his air defenses largely silenced, the mission could be pursued under a different command such as NATO.

Clinton also praised the United Arab Emirates for becoming the second Arab country after Qatar to send planes to help the mission to protect Libyan civilians, enforce the U.N. arms embargo on the North African country and support humanitarian aid efforts. The U.A.E. will deploy 12 planes.

Clinton said she will travel to London next week to coordinate the strategy and military operation against Gadhafi's regime.

With the costs of the campaign growing by the day and members of Congress raising complaints over the goals in Libya, the administration wants its allies to take the lead soon.

"We are still operating under that timeline, that it will be days, not weeks," White House press secretary Jay Carney said.

At the Pentagon, Navy Vice Adm. William Gortney, staff director for the military Joint Chiefs, told reporters that the American role will mainly be in support missions such as refueling allied planes and providing aerial surveillance of Libya. But the U.S. will still fly combat missions as needed, Gortney said.

"And I would anticipate that we would continue to provide some of the interdiction strike packages as well, should that be needed by the coalition," he added, referring to combat missions such as attacks on Libyan mobile air defenses, ammunition depots, air fields and other assets that support Libyan ground forces.

Carney was more circumspect, calling the next phase of U.S. involvement a "support and assist role," using U.S. intelligence resources and military capabilities including electronic jamming to throw off missiles or rockets. He did not mention any combat airstrikes.

In a new development Thursday, one of the Tomahawk cruise missiles fired from ships in the Mediterranean struck a surface-to-air missile site near the city of Sabha, far inland at the southern tip of the allies' designated no-fly zone, Gortney said. The missiles had previously struck mostly along the coastline. Another cruise missile hit a Scud missile site near Tripoli on Thursday, he said.

President Barack Obama spoke by phone with Russian President Dmitry Medvedev, expressing his appreciation to the leader who has been criticized in Russia for not using the country's veto in the United Nations Security Council to block the action in Libya.

Next week, Clinton, Defense Secretary Robert Gates, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper and Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Adm. Mike Mullen will brief members of the House on Libya. House Speaker John Boehner, who is pressing the administration to outline its goals in Libya, requested that they speak to lawmakers.

Speaking at the Pentagon, Gortney revealed how the coalition is shaping its strategy for using air power without hitting civilians, even as it pursues the U.N.-mandated goal of stopping Gadhafi from inflicting violence on his own people.

Gortney said that in contested cities like Misrata and Ajdabiya, the coalition is using air power to degrade or destroy the communications, logistics, ammunition storage and other supports for Gadhafi ground forces that are attacking inside the cities – apparently hoping that over time this will sap Gadhafi forces of their strength.

"But we are not attacking, we are not striking, inside the city," he said.

@ BreakingNews : Anti-Gadhafi fighters in Misurata say 28 people had died in the city in the past three days - Al Jazeera http://bit.ly/ecR130

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Gaddafi forces have reportedly captured the wife of Moussa Koussa, the former Foreign Minister who defected while in England. Reports the Telegraph:

The wife of the Libyan foreign minister who defected to Britain earlier this week has been seized by Colonel Gaddafi and is being interrogated by his "internal security" officials, The Daily Telegraph can disclose.

She is thought to have been captured amid eyewitness reports of a fierce gunfight at Col Gaddafi's central Tripoli compound as the regime stepped in to stop further defections.

Yesterday, local residents recalled how the most fierce firefight yet seen in central Tripoli had erupted within hours of the regime confirming that the Foreign Minister had defected.

Read the entire report here.

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NBC's Ann Curry tweets that the U.S. will move to support missions only:

@ AnnCurry : NBCNews: US military will stop flying COMBAT missions over Libya, only SUPPORT missions incl reconnaissance, starting April 2.

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Channel Four correspondent Jonathan Rugman spoke with Libya's former Prime Minister Abdul Ati al-Obeidi, who said that Gaddafi is trying to set up talks to stop the killing. During the interview, Obeidi told Rugman, "We are trying to talk to the British, the French and the Americans to stop the killing of people. We are trying to find a mutual solution."

Watch a report from Channel Four on the Libya talks below:

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Despite complaints to the contrary, the U.S. Senate actually did support a no-fly zone over Libya. The AP reports:

Some lawmakers are grousing loudly that President Barack Obama sent the nation's military to Libya without Congress' blessing. They're ignoring a key fact: The Senate a month ago voted to support imposing a no-fly zone to protect civilians from attacks by Col. Moammar Gadhafi's forces.

With no objections, the Senate on March 1 backed a resolution strongly condemning "the gross and systematic violations of human rights in Libya" and urging the U.N. Security Council to take action, "including the possible imposition of a no-fly zone over Libyan territory."

There was no recorded vote. It was simply approved by unanimous consent.

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Reuters reports:

@ Reuters : FLASH: Libyan government rejects rebels' conditions for ceasefire, says troops will not leave Libyan cities

Reuters adds:

"They are asking us to withdraw from our own cities. .... If this is not mad then I don't know what this is. We will not leave out cities," said Mussa Ibrahim, the government spokesman.

Read more here.

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Robert Haddick, writing at Foreign Policy, argues that the rebels need combat skills much more than they need heavy artillery. He writes:

On March 30, it was reported that CIA officers were in Libya with the rebels, making an assessment of their situation and possibly directing airstrikes in support of their fighters. We can gather from open sources much of what these intelligence officers are likely to report. As a military force, Libya's rebels are a disorganized rabble and seem incapable of preparing and holding defensive positions or maneuvering effectively against rudimentary enemy resistance. The rebels need boot camp, fundamental infantry training, and the development of some battlefield leaders, not a new stockpile of weapons.

Those Western leaders whose plan currently consists of hoping that Qaddafi will be spontaneously overthrown need to think again. Absent a Western invasion of the country, the rebel force is the only means of removing Qaddafi, and the rebels will need many months or even years of training before they are capable of defeating loyalist ground units and marching all the way to Tripoli.

Read the entire piece here.

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Gunfire has been reported in Gaddafi's compound. Reuters reports:

Sustained gunfire rang out near Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi's heavily fortified compound in Tripoli on Friday and residents said they saw snipers on rooftops and pools of blood on the streets.

It was not clear what triggered long bursts of machinegun and automatic gunfire that echoed around the city center for about 20 minutes and stopped before dawn.

Cars were heard speeding along central Tripoli streets, their tires screeching on the asphalt. Distant shouting or chanting also was heard.

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A journalist who was picked up by Libyan security details his ordeal. Here's an excerpt of his story from Reuters:

We sat quietly. I turned to Chris, a London-based Canadian I had worked with in Iraq. I said I thought they would kill us.

A soldier opened the lock and the rear door swung open again. We looked down at the back of a station wagon which had been opened up to reveal some blankets. I thought they would perhaps drive us away. Maybe they were going to free us?

But a closer look showed feet poking under the blankets.

Soldiers then pulled aside the coverings and hauled three handcuffed young men up and in beside us. When we were locked in again, they told us they were Libyan university students.

Later, several soldiers came in. "Who are you?" one asked me. We are Reuters journalists, I said. He is our driver. We have permission. We were invited here by your government.

The soldier shook his head. "Bad time to be a journalist in Libya." Reporters were part of a foreign conspiracy against Libya, he said. But then he made it clear that if they decided we were not journalists but spies, that would be worse.

"If you tell us the truth, it should be fine, God willing. But if we catch you lying, oh we will show no mercy. None."

Read the rest here.

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Libyan rebels have made a deal to sell oil to Qatar. Reports the AP:

A plan to sell rebel-held oil to buy weapons and other supplies has been reached with Qatar, a rebel official said Friday, in another sign of deepening aid for Libya's opposition by the wealthy Gulf state after sending warplanes to help confront Moammar Gadhafi's forces.

It was not immediately clear when the possible oil sales could begin or how the arms would reach the rebel factions, but any potential revenue stream would be a significant lifeline for the militias and military defectors battling Gadhafi's superior forces.

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Gaddafi forces are attacking home in Misrata, according to rebels. Reuters reports:

Forces loyal to Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi are mounting an intense artillery bombardment of rebel-held Misrata and pro-Gaddafi troops are attacking shops and homes in the city center, a rebel spokesman said.

Misrata is the last big rebel stronghold in western Libya but after weeks of shelling and encirclement, government forces appear to be gradually loosening the rebels' hold on the city, despite Western air strikes on pro-Gaddafi targets there.

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The Associated Press reports:

Libya's rebels will agree to a cease-fire if Moammar Gadhafi pulls his military forces out of cities and allows peaceful protests against his regime, an opposition leader said Friday.

Mustafa Abdul-Jalil, head of the opposition's interim governing council based in Benghazi, said the rebels' condition for a cease-fire is "that the Gadhafi brigades and forces withdraw from inside and outside Libyan cities to give freedom to the Libyan people to choose and the world will see that they will choose freedom."

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Libyan rebels moved towards the key oil town of Brega on Friday, as conditions drifted towards a stalemate. Reuters reports:

Libyan rebels moved heavier weaponry toward the oil town of Brega on Friday and sought to marshal rag-tag units into a more disciplined force to regain momentum against Muammar Gaddafi's regular army.

While military action appeared to drift toward stalemate, coalition diplomatic efforts focused on breaking Gaddafi's hold on power in Tripoli. London urged Gaddafi loyalists to abandon him, following the defection of Foreign Minister Moussa Koussa.

Rebels said neither side could claim control of Brega, one of a string of oil towns along the Mediterranean coast that have been taken and retaken several times by each side in recent weeks. The insurgents have failed to hold gains, even when helped by Western air strikes.

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From Al Jazeera:

German Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle says Libya's crisis cannot be resolved through military means and all sides must get to work on a political resolution.

Westerwelle said on a visit to China that a first step must be a cease-fire that is heeded by Gaddafi.

More details here.

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BBC News reports that U.S. senators are drafting legislation that would authorize the use of force in Libya. The senators include John Kerry and John McCain.

The 1973 War Powers Act says US armed forces must start to withdraw after 60 days unless explicitly authorised to fight by Congress. In the case of Libya, that mark would fall on 20 May, Mr Kerry said.

More here.

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The National Journal reports that the U.S. may be on a slippery slope when it comes to the Libyan mission:

It’s an old question, but we’ve been through enough of these interventions now --from Vietnam to Kosovo to Afghanistan--to insist on asking it once again: Is the United States on a slippery slope in Libya, one that will lead to American military involvement on the ground? The evidence, on balance, is that under President Obama the U.S. presence is going to expand quickly—but covertly.

Read the full article here.

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Reuters reports that Libya's top oil official, Shokri Ghanem, has denied rumors that he left the country.

Al Jazeera television listed Ghanem as one the figures who had left Libya, but Ghanem said in a phone call, "This is not true, I am in my office and I will be on TV in a few minutes."

More here.

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BBC News reports that London Mayor Boris Johnson, a Conservative, offers his concerns about involvement in Libya:

"I am worried that what we may be doing inadvertently is entrenching support for the mad colonel... I do worry that if we get into a stalemate, if the rebels don't seem to be making the progress we hope they would make, then we should be brave enough to say to ourselves our policy isn't working."

More here.

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The New York Times reports that as a second top Libyan official, Ali Abdussalam el-Treki, defects from the Gaddafi government, fears mount within the regime.

The capital of Tripoli was alive with rumored defections on Thursday, with the prime minister and the speaker of Parliament, among other top figures, said at various times to be quitting the country. None of those reports could be verified. But the authorities were taking no chances, assigning guards to senior officials to assure they cannot leave, a former Libyan official said.

More here.

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BBC News reports that, according to U.S. Admiral Mike Mullen, international air strikes have been hampered by bad weather over the past few days.

According to AFP, Mullen says that they have not been able to see through the weather to identify targets. "And that has more than anything else reduced the impact... reduced the effectiveness, and has allowed the regime forces to move back to the east."

More here.

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Al Jazeera reporter Anita McNaught discusses the defections in Libya:

"We got word from sources outside of Tripoli that there were at least four senior figures from the Gadaffi administration who were perhaps in Tunisia, or certainly outside the country and not intending to go home. These were, last night as we understood it, the current head of the Intelligence Service, the Oil Minister (and I'll mark a question mark with that in a minute), the Secretary of the General People's Congress, and the Deputy Foreign Minister."

More here.

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BBC News reports on apparent threats in London by a pro-Gaddafi protestor:

Libyan state television has broadcast footage showing a pro-Gaddafi protestor in London yanking open his jacket and vowing to turn himself an "explosive bomb", a video on YouTube shows. The incident is said to have occurred at the protest near the Foreign Office in Whitehall on 29 March. In the clip, which has been circulated widely on social media, the man refers to anti-Gaddafi protestors as "traitors and rats", and exhorts Libyans to "return to the Koran."

More here.

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The Guardian reports that Mohammed Ismail, a senior aide to Gaddafi's son Saif al-Islam, has traveled to London for confidential talks with British officials.

It is suggested that the regime may be looking for an exit strategy. There is speculation that Gaddafi's sons, namely Saif al-Islam, Saadi and Mutassim, are looking for a way out.

Although he has little public profile in either Libya or internationally, Ismail is recognised by diplomats as being a key fixer and representative for Saif al-Islam.

According to cables published by WikiLeaks, Ismail has represented the Libyan government in arms purchase negotiations and acted as an interlocutor on military and political issues.

"The message that was delivered to him is that Gaddafi has to go and that there will be accountability for crimes committed at the international criminal court," a Foreign Office spokesman told the Guardian , declining to elaborate on what else may have been discussed.

More here.

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The Associated Press/Huffington Post report:

Nation of Islam Minister Louis Farrakhan continued his defense of embattled Libyan strongman Moammar Gaddafi during a press conference in Chicago Thursday, and slammed the United States' decision to get involved in the conflict.

The 78-year-old leader of the Chicago-based organization spoke at Mosque Maryam, the Nation of Islam headquarters, according to the Chicago Tribune.

"It is a terrible thing for me to hear my brother called all these ugly and filthy names when I can't recognize him as that," Farrakhan said of Gaddafi, according to the Tribune. "Even though the current tide is moving against him ... how can I refuse to raise my voice in his defense? Why would I back down from those who have given so much."

Farrakhan has publicly defended Gaddafi a number of times since the Libyan uprising began. He reportedly visited the Libyan leader in the 1980s, and told attendees of a Nation of Islam convention in February that the United States should stay out of Libya's affairs.

Full report here.

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Breaking News reports on Twitter that according to the UK Independent, Britain is in talks with ten more Gaddafi officials about possible defection.

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BBC News provides the account of a witness in Tripoli.

According to the witness, any anti-government dissidents who spoke out publicly were deemed by officials as mentally ill and thus detained indefinitely. Because of this, the witness is not surprised that Iman al-Obeidi was immediately described as mentally ill last week.

She is not the first case of rape we have heard of here.

I have heard of two other cases in recent weeks. One of them was of a Moroccan housekeeper who was left behind by her employers as they fled to a safe house because half their family members had been detained.

The story that circulated through word-of-mouth was that security forces stormed the house she was staying in with the intention of detaining the rest of the family. Finding her alone there instead, they raped her.

Read the full account here.

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AP reports:

A top Libyan diplomat now supporting the opposition says most high-rank Libyan officials are trying to defect but are under tight security and having difficulty leaving the country.

Ibrahim Dabbashi, Libya's deputy U.N. ambassador, told The Associated Press on Thursday that Libya's U.N. Mission, which now totally supports the opposition, knew two days in advance that Foreign Minister Moussa Koussa planned to defect.

"This is a big blow to the regime," Dabbashi said.

He said the mission had been waiting for about 10 days for Ali Abdessalam Treki, a former foreign minister and U.N. General Assembly president named by Moammar Gadhafi to be the new U.N. ambassador, to defect. Treki announced his defection Thursday in Cairo.

More here.

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Libya's Transitional National Council has released a statement on counter-terrorism. The council says that it condemns and will combat all forms of terrorism.

Regarding al-Qaeda, the council states:

It emphasizes also its full commitment to the implementation of the relevant Security Council resolutions on Counter-Terrorism, including the resolutions on the Sanctions concerning al-Qaeda and Taliban, with the full commitment to all measures and sanctions concerning any individual or entity associated with al-Qaeda and Taliban as determined by the Sanctions Committee.

The council pledges to help the United Nations and cooperate with it's counter-terrorism task forces.

Read the full statement here.

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HuffPost's Saki Knafo reports:

Earlier this week, rebel forces in Libya fought their way to the outskirts of Sirte, a seafront city about the size of Tallahassee. The day before, pushing westward along the coast from Ajdabiya, they'd recaptured the oil towns of Brega and Ras Lanuf -- Sirte, experts said, was the last major obstacle standing in the rebels' path to the capital city of Tripoli.

Sirte. Before Sunday, few outside Libya had heard of it. Now it's being portrayed as the key to Libya's hopes for democracy, the fulcrum on which the nation's fate would turn. Its importance can be explained partly by location, its proximity to the capital. But it mattered for other reasons, too, reasons that reveal a lot about a conflict with complexities outsiders are only beginning to grasp.

Read the full story here.

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According to The New York Times, U.K. Foreign Secretary William Hague denies that Moussa Koussa was offered any immunity to lure him to leave Gaddafi's regime. Hague reports that he is voluntarily speaking with British officials.

The prosecutor of the International Criminal Court, Luis Moreno-Ocampo, said on March 3 that he would investigate “alleged crimes against humanity committed in Libya since 15 February, as peaceful demonstrators were attacked by security forces.” He placed Mr. Koussa second after Colonel Qaddafi on a list of “some individuals with formal or de facto authority, who commanded and had control over the forces that allegedly committed the crimes.”

More here.

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01:48 PM on 04/13/2011
A plea to the liberals on this board.

Please, please, I'm begging you. Write a letter. Ask Obama to STOP. He won't listen to people on my side of the aisle (why should he?). But maybe he'll listen to you. Beg him, plead with him, ask him to get us out of Iraq, Afghanistan, and please oh please don't get us into a land war in Libya.

Haven't we had enough?
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05:31 PM on 03/26/2011
I understand that the generals are squabbling, and I understand that the diplomats and the leaders are squabbling, and I understand that our military has already wasted more money on this than the total of all New York's public school budgets.
What I don't get is why the American taxpayer is footing the bill here. How come Switzerland didn't offer to kick in a few of the billions that are surely lying around in their basements? How about French, Italian and Austrian taxpayers? Don't they want to split the check evenly?
And let's not hear that the other nations will pay us back later. Of course they won't.
Again, why does our government just assume that American taxpayers are the only people on earth who have to fund this 'NATO' assault on an African nation torn by civil war? I know our leaders have always made us pay for our conquests in the past, but how about letting someone else pay just this once? I can see that U.S. oil companies could get some major coin when the dust settles, but they don't pay taxes anymore so nothing will come back to the Treasury. Does anyone in Washington even think? About, well, anything other than their careers?
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duvster
a legend in his own mind
03:34 AM on 03/26/2011
That's negotiation? we win the right to spend the most money and lose the most lives, but we're in the background so it's a foreign policy we can live(die) with.
01:51 PM on 03/25/2011
I just don't think we are living up to our end of the bargain. There is room for a few more wars before we send our grandparents off as soldiers.
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05:12 PM on 03/26/2011
Wait just a darn minute there. I'm probably one of those 'grandparents' and I ain't a goin' unless Bush and Cheney are in my platoon. Even then I'll chicken out because I don't have any shares in oil companies. Also, I don't want to suffer and die horribly for some hedge-fund's bottom line.
08:39 PM on 03/26/2011
You don't want to be around Cheney when he has a gun: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPsqL81Etxg
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stape45
It IS what it IS!
12:09 PM on 03/25/2011
“You create the conflict, we supply the bl.00d and tre.asure.” Whose motto should that be?
01:55 PM on 03/25/2011
USA!!!USA!!!USA!!!
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aristippe
no more oil for war
02:53 PM on 03/25/2011
Libyans
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GravitonX
10^300 bosons could care less.
10:25 AM on 03/25/2011
So, apparently, unless "peaceful" protestors take up arms against their government, the UN won't consider you for "humanitarian aid." Sorry, Bahrainians.

You have to love how these Liberal NeoCons play fast and furious with semantics and terminology.
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Sock De Jour
Democracy is an illusion
10:52 AM on 03/25/2011
Propaganda works.
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10:22 AM on 03/25/2011
After finishing my second cup of coffee ... I sense some 'kinetic action' down south.

be back in 20 ...
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lifepanels
We are a center-LEFT country.
04:45 PM on 03/25/2011
don't bother
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GravitonX
10^300 bosons could care less.
10:20 AM on 03/25/2011
03/24/2011 11:55 PM U.S. Reportedly Looking At Legality Of Arming Rebels

Remember Reagan/Oliver North and Iran/Contra?

The HYPOCRISY is ripe. The fact that they are even looking at this demonstrates how little respect they have for the spirit of the law.
12:00 PM on 03/25/2011
Dont you get it? We make the laws. Thats the way being Numero Uno works. And its why its so important we stay there, else we shall be dictated to.
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10:20 AM on 03/25/2011
I have no idea what the details are of this Libyan operation, but let me try and make a guess, because lord knows that the American Mainstream Media is useless.
 
1. Libya supplies Oil to our European allies.
2. With a possible bloddy civil war on the door steps of Italy, France, Spain, Greece possibly leading a FLOOD of refugees washing up on their shores. the E.U. convened and asked the U.S. to help with this situation before it gets out of control....
3. Enter NATO
4. G.O.tea Party in control of congress would have turned a Humanitarian crisis for our European Allies and their commerical market places (The Corporations) into a political football, with an attempt to score some poltical points.
5. Obama acts under a UN resolution in a limited way with plans to make the operation a NATO operation to keep things legal.
 
Should the United States be involved in this..... NO...... but can Democrats give Obama the benefit of the doubt for once.
 
I swear I have never in my life seen a President so disrespected by members of his own party the way Democrats attack Obama.
11:58 AM on 03/25/2011
Amen! F&F'd.
08:41 PM on 03/26/2011
You should be happy that they're not being just blind partisans who stand for nothing except "the leader."
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A Pragmatist and a Pundit
10:17 AM on 03/25/2011
Qatar is an Emirate with an Emir, a title we call King in English.

The Emir of Qatar owns Al-Jazeera. Al-Jazeera's HQ is based in Doha, Qatar.

Al-Jazeera has been in the fore-front of reporting the unrest in the Mideast and North Africa (Mrs Clinton even commended them for being a real News Network).

Al-Jazeera has been driving the narratives in these Pro-Democracy unrests in the Mideast.

Al-Jazeera Correspondents have been critical and scathing in their remarks about the dynasties in the Mideast Countries.

Qatar is a dynasty with an absolute Monarch running the show.

When will pro-democracy revolution start in Qatar? And how will Al-Jazeera report the News of the unrest in Qatar?
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UnknownSolider
09:15 PM on 03/26/2011
Emir actually means Prince, not king
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10:15 AM on 03/25/2011
c'mon hp ... how long does it take for one of your censors to take a dum?
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RyaPdc
Classical Liberal. Jeffersonian. CPA.
10:08 AM on 03/25/2011
Just drop a MOAD on Qaddafi and call it a day. Isn't that the overall objective, to oust him from power? What are we pussyfooting around for? If he lives, he has billions to strike back at us. Would you bet he wouldn't do it?
10:05 AM on 03/25/2011
Wow! It's a little mind boggling to try to grasp how so many people seem to really believe international diplomacy and complex peace keeping negotiations should now be conducted in public forums, with every voice being heard and every opinion heeded.
 
Anyone who has ever been involved in any sort of team effort or any committee should understand what goes on in meetings. If minute to minute reports, which included exchanges in the hallway with committee members taking a restroom break,  were published while the meeting was ongoing, what kind of coherence would anyone expect there to be in those reports?
 
The real-time story coming from the current "media" includes both professional and man-on-the-street reports, which is a two-sided coin. Yes, we are more informed about the ongoing events, but no, we can't rely on the accuracy of everything we hear. We have to keep firmly in our minds the knowledge that those with vested interests on all sides are speaking out, trying to sway public opinion. Now more than ever we have to learn to take what we hear with a very large grain of salt.
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If you plant ice, you're gonna harvest wind.
10:24 AM on 03/25/2011
Nicely put.
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10:05 AM on 03/25/2011
I just love these $10 words for simple concepts ...

- Cheney added "Gravitas" to the Bush Presidency.
- "Kinetic Action" from the White House yesterday.
- And just this morning on MSNBC from David Gregory ... "Opacity" in referring to Obama's lack of clarity of the mission in Libya.

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look for 'opacity' to become a new word in the media's limited thesaurus ....
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thatsitfortheotherwon
If you plant ice, you're gonna harvest wind.
10:28 AM on 03/25/2011
Kinetic operations has been DoD terminology for operations involving things that go bang for at least a decade. It's what the Army calls "fires" but with a wider choice of weapons/effects.

Which you'd know if you had a clue.
10:35 AM on 03/25/2011
To the media, everything is black and white. Before it was all about "transparency." Now it will be all about "opacity."
 
As to "Kinetic Action," if anyone doesn't see the events of the Middle East that have taken place in just a few short months, continually evolving and expanding, as being well-defined by the words "kinetic action," or in rapidly changing, energized motion, they haven't been paying attention.
 
A well chosen word can reduce the number of words needed to communicate. What's the harm in having the public learn a few more words?
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GravitonX
10^300 bosons could care less.
09:55 AM on 03/25/2011
03/24/2011 9:04 PM Sarkozy: Thousands Of Deaths Have Been Prevented

Yes, by thousands of other deaths.
10:07 AM on 03/25/2011
Where did you get that information?
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GravitonX
10^300 bosons could care less.
10:17 AM on 03/25/2011
The same place Sarkozy got his.
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thatsitfortheotherwon
If you plant ice, you're gonna harvest wind.
10:28 AM on 03/25/2011
from here: ( . )