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Libyan Rebels Regain Key City After Airstrikes

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AP/The Huffington Post   First Posted: 03/26/11 02:51 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:40 PM ET

AJDABIYA, Libya – Libyan rebels regained control of the eastern gateway city of Ajdabiya on Saturday after international airstrikes crippled Moammar Gadhafi's forces, in the first major turnaround for an uprising that a week ago appeared on the verge of defeat.

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The government acknowledged the airstrikes had forced its troops to retreat and accused international forces of choosing sides in the fight.

"This is the objective of the coalition now, it is not to protect civilians because now they are directly fighting against the armed forces," Khaled Kaim, the deputy foreign minister, said in Tripoli. "They are trying to push the country to the brink of a civil war."

In Ajdabiya, drivers honked in celebration and flew the tricolor rebel flag. Others in the city fired guns into the air and danced on burned-out tanks that littered the road. Inside a building that had served as makeshift barracks for pro-Gadhafi forces, hastily discarded uniforms were piled on the floor.

"Without the planes we couldn't have done this. Gadhafi's weapons are at a different level than ours," said Ahmed Faraj, 38, a rebel fighter from Ajdabiya. "With the help of the planes we are going to push onward to Tripoli, God willing."

Ajdabiya's sudden fall to Gadhafi's troops spurred the swift U.N. resolution authorizing international action in Libya, and its return to rebel hands on Saturday came after a week of airstrikes and missiles against the Libyan leader's military.

The turnaround is a boost for President Barack Obama, who has faced complaints from lawmakers from both parties that he has not sought their input about the U.S. role in the war or explained with enough clarity about the U.S. goals and exit strategy. Obama was expected to give a speech to the nation Monday.

"The United States should not and cannot intervene every time there's a crisis somewhere in the world," Obama said in a radio and Internet address Saturday. But with Gadhafi threatening "a bloodbath that could destabilize an entire region ... it's in our national interest to act. And it's our responsibility. This is one of those times."

Saif Sadawi, a 20-year-old rebel fighter with an RPG in his hands, said the city's eastern gate fell late Friday and the western gate fell at dawn Saturday after airstrikes on both locations.

"All of Ajdabiya is free," he said.

The U.N. Security Council authorized the operation to protect Libyan civilians after Gadhafi launched attacks against anti-government protesters who demanded that he step down after 42 years in power. The airstrikes have sapped the strength of Gadhafi's forces, but rebel advances have also foundered, and the two sides have been at stalemate in key cities.

Earlier Friday, British and French warplanes hit near Ajdabiya, destroying an artillery battery and armored vehicles. Ajdabiya, the gateway to the opposition's eastern stronghold, and the western city of Misrata have especially suffered because the rebels lack the heavy weapons to lift Gadhafi's siege.

A doctor in Misrata said airstrikes there on Saturday put an end to two days of shelling and sniper fire from Gadhafi's forces. The city was quiet Saturday afternoon, said the doctor, speaking on condition of anonymity because he feared for his safety if the city should fall. For now, he said, rebels control the city center, just as they have throughout in Ajdabiya.

On Saturday, rebels in Ajdabiya hauled away a captured rocket launcher and a dozen boxes of anti-aircraft ammunition, adding to their limited firepower. Later in the day, other rebels drove around and around a traffic circle, jubilantly shooting an assortment of weapons in the air — anti-aircraft weapons, AK-47s, RPGs.

Outside the city, Muftah el-Zwei was driving away, his back seat loaded with plastic bags filled with blankets and clothes that he picked up after going to his home in Ajdabiya for the first time in days.

"We went and checked it out, drove around the neighborhood and it looked OK. Hopefully we'll come back to stay tomorrow," he said.

On Friday, the U.S. commander in charge of the overall international mission, Army Gen. Carter Ham, told The Associated Press, "We could easily destroy all the regime forces that are in Ajdabiya," but the city itself would be destroyed in the process. "We'd be killing the very people that we're charged with protecting."

Instead, the focus was on disrupting the communications and supply lines that allow Gadhafi's forces to keep fighting in Ajdabiya and other urban areas like Misrata, Ham said in a telephone interview from his U.S. Africa Command headquarters in Stuttgart, Germany.

Protecting civilians from Gadhafi's forces has been the stated mission of the international action since the beginning, although some countries have offered variations on that theme at times.

A resident of Zwara, a former rebel holding in the west, said the regime has the town firmly in its grip again. He said pro-Gadhafi forces are dragging away people there and in the town of Zawiya who participated in protests that began Feb. 15 and were inspired by the uprisings that toppled autocratic leaders in Egypt and Tunisia.

"They have lists of demonstrators and videos and so on and they are seeking them out. We are all staying home and waiting for this to be over," said the resident, who did not want to be named because he feared for his safety if discovered. He said a friend who helped coordinate checkpoints when the opposition held the city was taken away Friday.

"They came with four or five cars with four people in each one, all of them armed to the teeth with Kalashnikovs. They surrounded the house and took him out," he said, adding that the whole thing was seen by a common friend.

He said neighbors now fear each other.

"During the demonstrations, many people contributed to the community, doing anything they could. This shows that the regime has collaborators to give them names. It's a Big Brother type of show, so they can come in and take whomever they want."
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Hubbard contributed from Cairo. Associated Press writer Hadeel al-Shalchi contributed to this report from Tripoli, Libya.

@ BreakingNews : Anti-Gadhafi fighters in Misurata say 28 people had died in the city in the past three days - Al Jazeera http://bit.ly/ecR130

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Gaddafi forces have reportedly captured the wife of Moussa Koussa, the former Foreign Minister who defected while in England. Reports the Telegraph:

The wife of the Libyan foreign minister who defected to Britain earlier this week has been seized by Colonel Gaddafi and is being interrogated by his "internal security" officials, The Daily Telegraph can disclose.

She is thought to have been captured amid eyewitness reports of a fierce gunfight at Col Gaddafi's central Tripoli compound as the regime stepped in to stop further defections.

Yesterday, local residents recalled how the most fierce firefight yet seen in central Tripoli had erupted within hours of the regime confirming that the Foreign Minister had defected.

Read the entire report here.

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NBC's Ann Curry tweets that the U.S. will move to support missions only:

@ AnnCurry : NBCNews: US military will stop flying COMBAT missions over Libya, only SUPPORT missions incl reconnaissance, starting April 2.

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Channel Four correspondent Jonathan Rugman spoke with Libya's former Prime Minister Abdul Ati al-Obeidi, who said that Gaddafi is trying to set up talks to stop the killing. During the interview, Obeidi told Rugman, "We are trying to talk to the British, the French and the Americans to stop the killing of people. We are trying to find a mutual solution."

Watch a report from Channel Four on the Libya talks below:

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Despite complaints to the contrary, the U.S. Senate actually did support a no-fly zone over Libya. The AP reports:

Some lawmakers are grousing loudly that President Barack Obama sent the nation's military to Libya without Congress' blessing. They're ignoring a key fact: The Senate a month ago voted to support imposing a no-fly zone to protect civilians from attacks by Col. Moammar Gadhafi's forces.

With no objections, the Senate on March 1 backed a resolution strongly condemning "the gross and systematic violations of human rights in Libya" and urging the U.N. Security Council to take action, "including the possible imposition of a no-fly zone over Libyan territory."

There was no recorded vote. It was simply approved by unanimous consent.

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Reuters reports:

@ Reuters : FLASH: Libyan government rejects rebels' conditions for ceasefire, says troops will not leave Libyan cities

Reuters adds:

"They are asking us to withdraw from our own cities. .... If this is not mad then I don't know what this is. We will not leave out cities," said Mussa Ibrahim, the government spokesman.

Read more here.

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Robert Haddick, writing at Foreign Policy, argues that the rebels need combat skills much more than they need heavy artillery. He writes:

On March 30, it was reported that CIA officers were in Libya with the rebels, making an assessment of their situation and possibly directing airstrikes in support of their fighters. We can gather from open sources much of what these intelligence officers are likely to report. As a military force, Libya's rebels are a disorganized rabble and seem incapable of preparing and holding defensive positions or maneuvering effectively against rudimentary enemy resistance. The rebels need boot camp, fundamental infantry training, and the development of some battlefield leaders, not a new stockpile of weapons.

Those Western leaders whose plan currently consists of hoping that Qaddafi will be spontaneously overthrown need to think again. Absent a Western invasion of the country, the rebel force is the only means of removing Qaddafi, and the rebels will need many months or even years of training before they are capable of defeating loyalist ground units and marching all the way to Tripoli.

Read the entire piece here.

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Gunfire has been reported in Gaddafi's compound. Reuters reports:

Sustained gunfire rang out near Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi's heavily fortified compound in Tripoli on Friday and residents said they saw snipers on rooftops and pools of blood on the streets.

It was not clear what triggered long bursts of machinegun and automatic gunfire that echoed around the city center for about 20 minutes and stopped before dawn.

Cars were heard speeding along central Tripoli streets, their tires screeching on the asphalt. Distant shouting or chanting also was heard.

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A journalist who was picked up by Libyan security details his ordeal. Here's an excerpt of his story from Reuters:

We sat quietly. I turned to Chris, a London-based Canadian I had worked with in Iraq. I said I thought they would kill us.

A soldier opened the lock and the rear door swung open again. We looked down at the back of a station wagon which had been opened up to reveal some blankets. I thought they would perhaps drive us away. Maybe they were going to free us?

But a closer look showed feet poking under the blankets.

Soldiers then pulled aside the coverings and hauled three handcuffed young men up and in beside us. When we were locked in again, they told us they were Libyan university students.

Later, several soldiers came in. "Who are you?" one asked me. We are Reuters journalists, I said. He is our driver. We have permission. We were invited here by your government.

The soldier shook his head. "Bad time to be a journalist in Libya." Reporters were part of a foreign conspiracy against Libya, he said. But then he made it clear that if they decided we were not journalists but spies, that would be worse.

"If you tell us the truth, it should be fine, God willing. But if we catch you lying, oh we will show no mercy. None."

Read the rest here.

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Libyan rebels have made a deal to sell oil to Qatar. Reports the AP:

A plan to sell rebel-held oil to buy weapons and other supplies has been reached with Qatar, a rebel official said Friday, in another sign of deepening aid for Libya's opposition by the wealthy Gulf state after sending warplanes to help confront Moammar Gadhafi's forces.

It was not immediately clear when the possible oil sales could begin or how the arms would reach the rebel factions, but any potential revenue stream would be a significant lifeline for the militias and military defectors battling Gadhafi's superior forces.

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Gaddafi forces are attacking home in Misrata, according to rebels. Reuters reports:

Forces loyal to Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi are mounting an intense artillery bombardment of rebel-held Misrata and pro-Gaddafi troops are attacking shops and homes in the city center, a rebel spokesman said.

Misrata is the last big rebel stronghold in western Libya but after weeks of shelling and encirclement, government forces appear to be gradually loosening the rebels' hold on the city, despite Western air strikes on pro-Gaddafi targets there.

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The Associated Press reports:

Libya's rebels will agree to a cease-fire if Moammar Gadhafi pulls his military forces out of cities and allows peaceful protests against his regime, an opposition leader said Friday.

Mustafa Abdul-Jalil, head of the opposition's interim governing council based in Benghazi, said the rebels' condition for a cease-fire is "that the Gadhafi brigades and forces withdraw from inside and outside Libyan cities to give freedom to the Libyan people to choose and the world will see that they will choose freedom."

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Libyan rebels moved towards the key oil town of Brega on Friday, as conditions drifted towards a stalemate. Reuters reports:

Libyan rebels moved heavier weaponry toward the oil town of Brega on Friday and sought to marshal rag-tag units into a more disciplined force to regain momentum against Muammar Gaddafi's regular army.

While military action appeared to drift toward stalemate, coalition diplomatic efforts focused on breaking Gaddafi's hold on power in Tripoli. London urged Gaddafi loyalists to abandon him, following the defection of Foreign Minister Moussa Koussa.

Rebels said neither side could claim control of Brega, one of a string of oil towns along the Mediterranean coast that have been taken and retaken several times by each side in recent weeks. The insurgents have failed to hold gains, even when helped by Western air strikes.

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From Al Jazeera:

German Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle says Libya's crisis cannot be resolved through military means and all sides must get to work on a political resolution.

Westerwelle said on a visit to China that a first step must be a cease-fire that is heeded by Gaddafi.

More details here.

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BBC News reports that U.S. senators are drafting legislation that would authorize the use of force in Libya. The senators include John Kerry and John McCain.

The 1973 War Powers Act says US armed forces must start to withdraw after 60 days unless explicitly authorised to fight by Congress. In the case of Libya, that mark would fall on 20 May, Mr Kerry said.

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The National Journal reports that the U.S. may be on a slippery slope when it comes to the Libyan mission:

It’s an old question, but we’ve been through enough of these interventions now --from Vietnam to Kosovo to Afghanistan--to insist on asking it once again: Is the United States on a slippery slope in Libya, one that will lead to American military involvement on the ground? The evidence, on balance, is that under President Obama the U.S. presence is going to expand quickly—but covertly.

Read the full article here.

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Reuters reports that Libya's top oil official, Shokri Ghanem, has denied rumors that he left the country.

Al Jazeera television listed Ghanem as one the figures who had left Libya, but Ghanem said in a phone call, "This is not true, I am in my office and I will be on TV in a few minutes."

More here.

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BBC News reports that London Mayor Boris Johnson, a Conservative, offers his concerns about involvement in Libya:

"I am worried that what we may be doing inadvertently is entrenching support for the mad colonel... I do worry that if we get into a stalemate, if the rebels don't seem to be making the progress we hope they would make, then we should be brave enough to say to ourselves our policy isn't working."

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The New York Times reports that as a second top Libyan official, Ali Abdussalam el-Treki, defects from the Gaddafi government, fears mount within the regime.

The capital of Tripoli was alive with rumored defections on Thursday, with the prime minister and the speaker of Parliament, among other top figures, said at various times to be quitting the country. None of those reports could be verified. But the authorities were taking no chances, assigning guards to senior officials to assure they cannot leave, a former Libyan official said.

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BBC News reports that, according to U.S. Admiral Mike Mullen, international air strikes have been hampered by bad weather over the past few days.

According to AFP, Mullen says that they have not been able to see through the weather to identify targets. "And that has more than anything else reduced the impact... reduced the effectiveness, and has allowed the regime forces to move back to the east."

More here.

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Al Jazeera reporter Anita McNaught discusses the defections in Libya:

"We got word from sources outside of Tripoli that there were at least four senior figures from the Gadaffi administration who were perhaps in Tunisia, or certainly outside the country and not intending to go home. These were, last night as we understood it, the current head of the Intelligence Service, the Oil Minister (and I'll mark a question mark with that in a minute), the Secretary of the General People's Congress, and the Deputy Foreign Minister."

More here.

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BBC News reports on apparent threats in London by a pro-Gaddafi protestor:

Libyan state television has broadcast footage showing a pro-Gaddafi protestor in London yanking open his jacket and vowing to turn himself an "explosive bomb", a video on YouTube shows. The incident is said to have occurred at the protest near the Foreign Office in Whitehall on 29 March. In the clip, which has been circulated widely on social media, the man refers to anti-Gaddafi protestors as "traitors and rats", and exhorts Libyans to "return to the Koran."

More here.

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The Guardian reports that Mohammed Ismail, a senior aide to Gaddafi's son Saif al-Islam, has traveled to London for confidential talks with British officials.

It is suggested that the regime may be looking for an exit strategy. There is speculation that Gaddafi's sons, namely Saif al-Islam, Saadi and Mutassim, are looking for a way out.

Although he has little public profile in either Libya or internationally, Ismail is recognised by diplomats as being a key fixer and representative for Saif al-Islam.

According to cables published by WikiLeaks, Ismail has represented the Libyan government in arms purchase negotiations and acted as an interlocutor on military and political issues.

"The message that was delivered to him is that Gaddafi has to go and that there will be accountability for crimes committed at the international criminal court," a Foreign Office spokesman told the Guardian , declining to elaborate on what else may have been discussed.

More here.

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The Associated Press/Huffington Post report:

Nation of Islam Minister Louis Farrakhan continued his defense of embattled Libyan strongman Moammar Gaddafi during a press conference in Chicago Thursday, and slammed the United States' decision to get involved in the conflict.

The 78-year-old leader of the Chicago-based organization spoke at Mosque Maryam, the Nation of Islam headquarters, according to the Chicago Tribune.

"It is a terrible thing for me to hear my brother called all these ugly and filthy names when I can't recognize him as that," Farrakhan said of Gaddafi, according to the Tribune. "Even though the current tide is moving against him ... how can I refuse to raise my voice in his defense? Why would I back down from those who have given so much."

Farrakhan has publicly defended Gaddafi a number of times since the Libyan uprising began. He reportedly visited the Libyan leader in the 1980s, and told attendees of a Nation of Islam convention in February that the United States should stay out of Libya's affairs.

Full report here.

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Breaking News reports on Twitter that according to the UK Independent, Britain is in talks with ten more Gaddafi officials about possible defection.

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BBC News provides the account of a witness in Tripoli.

According to the witness, any anti-government dissidents who spoke out publicly were deemed by officials as mentally ill and thus detained indefinitely. Because of this, the witness is not surprised that Iman al-Obeidi was immediately described as mentally ill last week.

She is not the first case of rape we have heard of here.

I have heard of two other cases in recent weeks. One of them was of a Moroccan housekeeper who was left behind by her employers as they fled to a safe house because half their family members had been detained.

The story that circulated through word-of-mouth was that security forces stormed the house she was staying in with the intention of detaining the rest of the family. Finding her alone there instead, they raped her.

Read the full account here.

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AP reports:

A top Libyan diplomat now supporting the opposition says most high-rank Libyan officials are trying to defect but are under tight security and having difficulty leaving the country.

Ibrahim Dabbashi, Libya's deputy U.N. ambassador, told The Associated Press on Thursday that Libya's U.N. Mission, which now totally supports the opposition, knew two days in advance that Foreign Minister Moussa Koussa planned to defect.

"This is a big blow to the regime," Dabbashi said.

He said the mission had been waiting for about 10 days for Ali Abdessalam Treki, a former foreign minister and U.N. General Assembly president named by Moammar Gadhafi to be the new U.N. ambassador, to defect. Treki announced his defection Thursday in Cairo.

More here.

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Libya's Transitional National Council has released a statement on counter-terrorism. The council says that it condemns and will combat all forms of terrorism.

Regarding al-Qaeda, the council states:

It emphasizes also its full commitment to the implementation of the relevant Security Council resolutions on Counter-Terrorism, including the resolutions on the Sanctions concerning al-Qaeda and Taliban, with the full commitment to all measures and sanctions concerning any individual or entity associated with al-Qaeda and Taliban as determined by the Sanctions Committee.

The council pledges to help the United Nations and cooperate with it's counter-terrorism task forces.

Read the full statement here.

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HuffPost's Saki Knafo reports:

Earlier this week, rebel forces in Libya fought their way to the outskirts of Sirte, a seafront city about the size of Tallahassee. The day before, pushing westward along the coast from Ajdabiya, they'd recaptured the oil towns of Brega and Ras Lanuf -- Sirte, experts said, was the last major obstacle standing in the rebels' path to the capital city of Tripoli.

Sirte. Before Sunday, few outside Libya had heard of it. Now it's being portrayed as the key to Libya's hopes for democracy, the fulcrum on which the nation's fate would turn. Its importance can be explained partly by location, its proximity to the capital. But it mattered for other reasons, too, reasons that reveal a lot about a conflict with complexities outsiders are only beginning to grasp.

Read the full story here.

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According to The New York Times, U.K. Foreign Secretary William Hague denies that Moussa Koussa was offered any immunity to lure him to leave Gaddafi's regime. Hague reports that he is voluntarily speaking with British officials.

The prosecutor of the International Criminal Court, Luis Moreno-Ocampo, said on March 3 that he would investigate “alleged crimes against humanity committed in Libya since 15 February, as peaceful demonstrators were attacked by security forces.” He placed Mr. Koussa second after Colonel Qaddafi on a list of “some individuals with formal or de facto authority, who commanded and had control over the forces that allegedly committed the crimes.”

More here.

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b525
12:20 PM on 03/27/2011
Under Khadafi, Libya has become nothing more than an enormous OIL SELLING CORPORATION largely devoid of democracy and human/civil rights.

The government leaders of Libya are nothing more than corporate board members dictating policy to the captive corporate employee-citizens beneath them.

Many Mid-East oil selling nations have now become nothing more the oil selling corporations under their dictatorial leaders and dictatorial royal families.

Many of these leaders give free passes to Muslim religious extremists sects in their countries to abuse and oppress women by treating them as cattle/property.

In Saudi Arabia women cannot choose who they wish to marry, cannot drive, cannot vote, cannot travel without a male escort, must wear clothing which covers their face, head and entire body, are discriminated against in the courts and have few protections against physical and sexual assault.

It's reported on Wikipedia, and many other web sites, that Saudi men can marry Saudi girls when these girls REACH THE AGE OF TEN.

The body covering religious clothing that these women wear has been shown by medical studies worldwide to cause severe and chronic vitamin D deficiency as these women age, resulting in a wide variety of deadly and disabling illnesses, not only to the women, but also to their unborn children. (human skin cannot produce vitamin D without exposure to adequate sunlight).

Diseases caused by vitamin D deficiency include: high blood pressure, heart disease/stroke, obesity, weakening of the bones/spine/arthritis, depression/mental confusion, weakened immunity, premature aging.
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Erewhon7
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11:42 AM on 03/27/2011
Another case proving the power of Western NATO to elicit positive changes.
Pax Americana works.
Next stop-- Syria.
11:35 AM on 03/27/2011
so now we can bury all that nonsense about this being "humanitarian"
we are actively helping the rebels take offensive and blowing up gaddafis troops that are on defense.
we are helping the rebels take all the oil ports. just another war for oil with a pathetic propaganda cover story.
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danielboone
03:09 AM on 03/29/2011
Your right it's all about the OIL for Europe!
10:42 AM on 03/27/2011
Folks, now that his Armor and Heavy A are going the way of his Air Force, look for sizeable desertions in his Army ( that's the purpose of degrading the enemy's ability to conduct warfare ).
El KAGAFI will be asking for safe conduct to Turkey for him and his family very soon.
The KAGAFI family likes the good life too much to stick around.
Another murdering thief will be bitting the dust very soon.

El Cojonú
10:20 AM on 03/27/2011
See folks, I've been telling you.
My Jovenes Cojonuos Revolucionarios just needed a little help to get it done.
THEY want to be the ones to take EL KAGAFI to wherever he wants to go.
Barack Obama, you FINALLY behaved like you have a set of well-placed CJ's on you; CONGRATULATIONS, my man ( now, doesn't that make you feel sooo much better - it's great for morale ! ).

El Cojonú
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rbenjamin
Rule 5 rules
10:06 AM on 03/27/2011
Looks like we'll have to wait until Monday for some actual news.
08:11 AM on 03/27/2011
The reporting of the war is interesting. The stories keep saying "the rebels retake" or "the rebels regain" or "the rebels recapture" some location or another. In fact, we are doing it for them. We bomb the government's forces into submission or extinction, then the rebels can simply move back into that location. They are not retaking anything. Regardless of one's opinion about the war, it would be nice if the reporting was a little more accurate.
10:10 AM on 03/27/2011
Boots on the ground RETAKE; Air Support is just that, SUPPORT; that's the way it is in modern warfare.
It's the INFANTRY ( Ground Pounders ) that retakes, they're the ones who leave the blood on the ground. Don't EVER forget IT.
My jovenes revolucionarios are on the move again !
Viva La Revolución, Cojonez !

El Cojonu
11:37 AM on 03/27/2011
Our differences are largely semantical, I think. But, the air war is winning the battle, then the insurgents simply re-occupy the space. There have not been accounts in the reclaimed territory of ground battles and casualties.
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Erewhon7
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11:43 AM on 03/27/2011
ElCojonuAgain is correct.
07:45 AM on 03/27/2011
Of cause the rebels regain one city after the other.

Most of them are not trained, they claim to be insufficently equipped - and they are not very well organzied.

But with Nato to cover you can probably send teenagers and senior citizens into battle and still win.
Have you heard that many times they don't take prisoners?
10:24 AM on 03/27/2011
In Guerrilla warfare you don't take prisoners; it slows you down.
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Andy Williams 1
Liberals! 21st century kooky!
11:22 AM on 03/27/2011
There's no prisoners to take. I heard that some of the rebels couldn't get their walkers down the streets after the air support killed every living thing.
03:09 PM on 03/27/2011
It isn't the SEALS or the Rangers, it is a Rebel Army full of cutthroats, criminals and a couple of idealists.
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Howard53545
06:01 AM on 03/27/2011
US special forces are helping them gain the advantage.
07:48 AM on 03/27/2011
I think so too.
Together with their comrades from France, Britain and hell knows where else from.

But help me out ... who was the guy who said "no ground forces in Lybia" ....?
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danielboone
03:13 AM on 03/29/2011
I can guarantee the French are not on the ground. However they drug Obama kicking and screaming into this Kinetic adventure for their needs of the Libyan oil for Europe!
10:53 AM on 03/27/2011
I don't think so, my Jovenes Revolucionarios are STILL wasting ammo.
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02:38 AM on 03/27/2011
I am truly amazed at how quickly people forget...are Iraq or Afghanistan any better off now that the U.S has "saved" them from oppressive regimes? More than one million people have died as a direct result of those interventions, and yet "enlightened" news bloggers continue discourse in support of even more violence, believing their support to be for the good and innocent. Statistics of civilian casualties and resulting political chaos tells us a very different story to the one being spoon-fed to us by our leading politicians. The end result of these invasions of foreign countries can almost definitely only lead to one certainty : Destabilisation. And anybody who believes that violence can bring lasting peace and happiness to the world needs to read more history...
I sincerely hope this whole mess ends well, for the sake of every human being caught in the crossfire.
Peace
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Ravyn
04:22 AM on 03/27/2011
The only thing not in doubt is that Gaddafi would massacre everyone opposed to him. Given the vicious reprisals against protesters in Tripoli, it would have been a bloodbath. And it would be happening right on the Mediterranean next door to Egypt with its Suez Canal which is next door to Israel. This cannot be compared with George Bush's go-it-alone you're-with-us-or-against us attack on Iraq on faulty or non-existent intel that he had WMDs. We originally went into Afghanistan because Osama Bin Laden was there and masterminded the attack on 9/11, and Al Queda terrorists have been there.
07:55 AM on 03/27/2011
Speculations.

Some people in the US want the guy who leaked all those documents to Wikileaks to get the death penalty. So why point fingers?

Iraq was an invasion because one of the US puppets refused to obey orders.
And in Afgahnistan a whole country had to pay for the radical ideas of some foreigner who lived in their mountains. By the way, today he lives most likely in Pakistan ... hey ho, let's go!
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MorpheusXNYC
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12:33 AM on 03/27/2011
Well now, let's see how the Republicans can try to spin this negatively...
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Andy Williams 1
Liberals! 21st century kooky!
11:24 AM on 03/27/2011
Huh?
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catlady628
Needs lint roller :)
12:31 AM on 03/27/2011
They need to send in the French Foreign Legion or something to help those rebels get organized...and they need to stop wasting all their ammo firing into the air and those are the ones that actually know how to load them.
10:30 AM on 03/27/2011
You're right about the ammo, I've been telling them that.
They're young, inexperienced, exuberant and willing to put it on the line ( that's what I like most about them, they're NOT AFRAID, they're Cojonuos ).
We have to keep reminding them not to waste the ammo and keep resupplying them; these kids are GOOD.

El Cojonu
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Andy Williams 1
Liberals! 21st century kooky!
11:25 AM on 03/27/2011
I don't think they understand what ammo is for, they haven't killed any government forces yet.
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catlady628
Needs lint roller :)
11:50 AM on 03/27/2011
They've certainly got all the heart they need, I just hope they can keep getting enough help from the "sidelines" to win.
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rusane
My micro-bio is empty, cold and jaded.
12:09 AM on 03/27/2011
I feel like the US is the kid who stands up to the school yard bully, but only when the bully is picking on the rich kid with the cool toys. When it's any othe kid being bullied, the US alternatley joins in or turns a blind eye.
07:56 AM on 03/27/2011
I feel like the US is the Bully who does whatever he likes.
And if there is a rich nerd nobody likes he gets beaten up.
11:40 PM on 03/26/2011
Came across the possibility of it turning into another Iraq. Seems plausible. See http://ofthisandthat.org/03252011LettertoPresident.html
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fairwayhill
1948 Palestine belongs to the Palestinians
10:56 PM on 03/26/2011
This is a US war against the Libyan government.
11:58 PM on 03/26/2011
Good. Bye bye Gaddafi.
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01:53 AM on 03/27/2011
...and usher in an even more unstable regime of apparent democracy...? Gimme Gaddafi any day...
10:34 AM on 03/27/2011
You like EL KAGAFI ?