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Libyan Rebels Close On Key Gaddafi Stronghold

Libya Rebels

First Posted: 03/28/11 09:00 AM ET Updated: 05/28/11 06:12 AM ET

BIN JAWWAD, Libya -- Rebel forces on Monday fought their way to the doorstep of Moammar Gaddafi's hometown of Sirte, a key government stronghold guarding the road to the capital Tripoli.

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The lightning rebel advance of the past few days, backed by powerful international airstrikes, has restored to the opposition all the territory they lost over the past week and brought them to within 60 miles (100 miles) of this bastion of Gaddafi's power in the center of the country.

"Sirte will not be easy to take," said Gen. Hamdi Hassi, a rebel commander at the small town of Bin Jawwad, just 18 miles (30 kilometers) from the front. "Now because of NATO strikes on (the government's) heavy weapons, we're almost fighting with the same weapons, only we have Grad rockets now and they don't."

Libya's rebels have recovered hundreds of miles (kilometers) of flat, uninhabited territory at record speeds after Gaddafi's forces were forced to pull back by international air strikes that began March 19.

In a symbolic diplomatic victory for the opposition, the tiny state of Qatar recognized Libya's rebels as the legitimate representatives of the country – the first Arab state to do so.

Hassi said there was fighting now just outside the small hamlet of Nawfaliyah, 60 miles (100 kilometers) from Sirte and scouting parties had found the road ahead to be heavily mined.

He added that the current rebel strategy was to combine military assault with an attempt to win over some of the local tribes loyal to Gaddafi over to their side.

"There's Gaddafi and then there's circles around him of supporters, each circle is slowly peeling off and disappearing," Hassi said. "If they rise up it would make our job easier."

Witnesses in Sirte reported Monday there had been air strikes the night before and again early in the morning, but the town was quiet, and dozens of fighters loyal to Gaddafi could be seen roaming the streets.

Moving quickly westward, the advance retraced their steps in the first rebel march toward the capital that was stopped March 5 by Gaddafi's superior weaponry. But this time, the world's most powerful air forces have eased the way by pounding the government's military assets for the past week.

The east of the country shook off nearly 42 years of Gaddafi's rule in a series of popular demonstrations starting in mid-February and inspired by similar successful uprisings in Egypt and Tunisia. Gaddafi's forces crushed similar uprising in the west of the country.

Sirte is strategically located about halfway between the rebel-held east and the Gaddafi-controlled west along the Mediterranean coast. It is a center of support for Gaddafi and is expected to be difficult for rebels to take.

West of Sirte is the embattled city of Misrata, the sole place in rebel hands in the country's west. Residents reported fighting between rebels and Gaddafi loyalists who fired from tanks on residential areas.

Rida al-Montasser, of the media committee of Misrata, said that nine young men were killed and 23 others wounded when Gaddafi brigades shelled their position in the northwestern part of the city on Sunday night. He also said that the port was bombed.

Turkey's Anatolia new agency said a Turkish civilian ferry carrying 15 medics, three ambulances and medical equipment was heading for Misrata to help treat some 1,300 people injured in attacks there.

Meanwhile, international airstrikes have continued against Libya, including the southern town of Sebha, reported the state news agency. The area remains strongly loyal to Gaddafi and is a major transit point for ethnic Tuareg fighters from Mali and Niger fighting for the government.

JANA said the strikes destroyed a number of houses, though past attacks on Sabha, 385 miles (620 kilometers) south of Tripoli, targeted the airport and the flow of foreign fighters reinforcing the regime.

The rebels in past days retook two key oil complexes along the coastal highway and promised to quickly restart Libya's stalled oil exports, prompting a slight drop in the soaring price of crude oil to around $105 a barrel.

In Washington, Defense Secretary Robert Gates said he could not offer a timetable for how long the Libya operation could last, as the Obama administration tried to bolster its case for bringing the United States into another war in the Muslim world.

The U.N. Security Council authorized the operation to protect Libyan civilians after Gaddafi launched attacks against the protesters who demanded that he step down. The airstrikes have crippled Gaddafi's forces, allowing rebels to advance less than two weeks after they had seemed at the brink of defeat.

The assault on Sirte, where most civilians are believed to support Gaddafi, however, potentially represents an expansion of the international mission to being more directly involved with regime change.

"This is the objective of the coalition now, it is not to protect civilians because now they are directly fighting against the armed forces," Khaled Kaim, the deputy foreign minister, said in the capital, Tripoli. "They are trying to push the country to the brink of a civil war."

The tiny Persian Gulf state of Qatar, however, has formally recognized the rebels as the legitimate representatives of the country and promised to help them sell their crude oil on the international market.

Qatar has been well ahead of other Arab countries in embracing the rebels and is also participating in the U.N.-mandated no-fly zone over Libya.

Turkey, meanwhile, has confirmed that even as rebel forces advance on Sirte it has been working with the government and the opposition to set up a cease-fire.

"We are one of the very few countries that are speaking to both sides," Foreign Ministry Spokesman Selcuk Unal said, without confirming whether Turkey had offered to act as mediator.

Turkey's prime minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan also told reporters his country will take over the running of the airport in Benghazi to facilitate the transport of humanitarian aid to Libya. He did not say when, however.

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Associated Press writer Christopher Torchia contributed to this report from Istanbul.

@ BreakingNews : Anti-Gadhafi fighters in Misurata say 28 people had died in the city in the past three days - Al Jazeera http://bit.ly/ecR130

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Gaddafi forces have reportedly captured the wife of Moussa Koussa, the former Foreign Minister who defected while in England. Reports the Telegraph:

The wife of the Libyan foreign minister who defected to Britain earlier this week has been seized by Colonel Gaddafi and is being interrogated by his "internal security" officials, The Daily Telegraph can disclose.

She is thought to have been captured amid eyewitness reports of a fierce gunfight at Col Gaddafi's central Tripoli compound as the regime stepped in to stop further defections.

Yesterday, local residents recalled how the most fierce firefight yet seen in central Tripoli had erupted within hours of the regime confirming that the Foreign Minister had defected.

Read the entire report here.

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NBC's Ann Curry tweets that the U.S. will move to support missions only:

@ AnnCurry : NBCNews: US military will stop flying COMBAT missions over Libya, only SUPPORT missions incl reconnaissance, starting April 2.

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Channel Four correspondent Jonathan Rugman spoke with Libya's former Prime Minister Abdul Ati al-Obeidi, who said that Gaddafi is trying to set up talks to stop the killing. During the interview, Obeidi told Rugman, "We are trying to talk to the British, the French and the Americans to stop the killing of people. We are trying to find a mutual solution."

Watch a report from Channel Four on the Libya talks below:

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Despite complaints to the contrary, the U.S. Senate actually did support a no-fly zone over Libya. The AP reports:

Some lawmakers are grousing loudly that President Barack Obama sent the nation's military to Libya without Congress' blessing. They're ignoring a key fact: The Senate a month ago voted to support imposing a no-fly zone to protect civilians from attacks by Col. Moammar Gadhafi's forces.

With no objections, the Senate on March 1 backed a resolution strongly condemning "the gross and systematic violations of human rights in Libya" and urging the U.N. Security Council to take action, "including the possible imposition of a no-fly zone over Libyan territory."

There was no recorded vote. It was simply approved by unanimous consent.

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Reuters reports:

@ Reuters : FLASH: Libyan government rejects rebels' conditions for ceasefire, says troops will not leave Libyan cities

Reuters adds:

"They are asking us to withdraw from our own cities. .... If this is not mad then I don't know what this is. We will not leave out cities," said Mussa Ibrahim, the government spokesman.

Read more here.

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Robert Haddick, writing at Foreign Policy, argues that the rebels need combat skills much more than they need heavy artillery. He writes:

On March 30, it was reported that CIA officers were in Libya with the rebels, making an assessment of their situation and possibly directing airstrikes in support of their fighters. We can gather from open sources much of what these intelligence officers are likely to report. As a military force, Libya's rebels are a disorganized rabble and seem incapable of preparing and holding defensive positions or maneuvering effectively against rudimentary enemy resistance. The rebels need boot camp, fundamental infantry training, and the development of some battlefield leaders, not a new stockpile of weapons.

Those Western leaders whose plan currently consists of hoping that Qaddafi will be spontaneously overthrown need to think again. Absent a Western invasion of the country, the rebel force is the only means of removing Qaddafi, and the rebels will need many months or even years of training before they are capable of defeating loyalist ground units and marching all the way to Tripoli.

Read the entire piece here.

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Gunfire has been reported in Gaddafi's compound. Reuters reports:

Sustained gunfire rang out near Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi's heavily fortified compound in Tripoli on Friday and residents said they saw snipers on rooftops and pools of blood on the streets.

It was not clear what triggered long bursts of machinegun and automatic gunfire that echoed around the city center for about 20 minutes and stopped before dawn.

Cars were heard speeding along central Tripoli streets, their tires screeching on the asphalt. Distant shouting or chanting also was heard.

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A journalist who was picked up by Libyan security details his ordeal. Here's an excerpt of his story from Reuters:

We sat quietly. I turned to Chris, a London-based Canadian I had worked with in Iraq. I said I thought they would kill us.

A soldier opened the lock and the rear door swung open again. We looked down at the back of a station wagon which had been opened up to reveal some blankets. I thought they would perhaps drive us away. Maybe they were going to free us?

But a closer look showed feet poking under the blankets.

Soldiers then pulled aside the coverings and hauled three handcuffed young men up and in beside us. When we were locked in again, they told us they were Libyan university students.

Later, several soldiers came in. "Who are you?" one asked me. We are Reuters journalists, I said. He is our driver. We have permission. We were invited here by your government.

The soldier shook his head. "Bad time to be a journalist in Libya." Reporters were part of a foreign conspiracy against Libya, he said. But then he made it clear that if they decided we were not journalists but spies, that would be worse.

"If you tell us the truth, it should be fine, God willing. But if we catch you lying, oh we will show no mercy. None."

Read the rest here.

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Libyan rebels have made a deal to sell oil to Qatar. Reports the AP:

A plan to sell rebel-held oil to buy weapons and other supplies has been reached with Qatar, a rebel official said Friday, in another sign of deepening aid for Libya's opposition by the wealthy Gulf state after sending warplanes to help confront Moammar Gadhafi's forces.

It was not immediately clear when the possible oil sales could begin or how the arms would reach the rebel factions, but any potential revenue stream would be a significant lifeline for the militias and military defectors battling Gadhafi's superior forces.

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Gaddafi forces are attacking home in Misrata, according to rebels. Reuters reports:

Forces loyal to Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi are mounting an intense artillery bombardment of rebel-held Misrata and pro-Gaddafi troops are attacking shops and homes in the city center, a rebel spokesman said.

Misrata is the last big rebel stronghold in western Libya but after weeks of shelling and encirclement, government forces appear to be gradually loosening the rebels' hold on the city, despite Western air strikes on pro-Gaddafi targets there.

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The Associated Press reports:

Libya's rebels will agree to a cease-fire if Moammar Gadhafi pulls his military forces out of cities and allows peaceful protests against his regime, an opposition leader said Friday.

Mustafa Abdul-Jalil, head of the opposition's interim governing council based in Benghazi, said the rebels' condition for a cease-fire is "that the Gadhafi brigades and forces withdraw from inside and outside Libyan cities to give freedom to the Libyan people to choose and the world will see that they will choose freedom."

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Libyan rebels moved towards the key oil town of Brega on Friday, as conditions drifted towards a stalemate. Reuters reports:

Libyan rebels moved heavier weaponry toward the oil town of Brega on Friday and sought to marshal rag-tag units into a more disciplined force to regain momentum against Muammar Gaddafi's regular army.

While military action appeared to drift toward stalemate, coalition diplomatic efforts focused on breaking Gaddafi's hold on power in Tripoli. London urged Gaddafi loyalists to abandon him, following the defection of Foreign Minister Moussa Koussa.

Rebels said neither side could claim control of Brega, one of a string of oil towns along the Mediterranean coast that have been taken and retaken several times by each side in recent weeks. The insurgents have failed to hold gains, even when helped by Western air strikes.

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From Al Jazeera:

German Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle says Libya's crisis cannot be resolved through military means and all sides must get to work on a political resolution.

Westerwelle said on a visit to China that a first step must be a cease-fire that is heeded by Gaddafi.

More details here.

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BBC News reports that U.S. senators are drafting legislation that would authorize the use of force in Libya. The senators include John Kerry and John McCain.

The 1973 War Powers Act says US armed forces must start to withdraw after 60 days unless explicitly authorised to fight by Congress. In the case of Libya, that mark would fall on 20 May, Mr Kerry said.

More here.

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The National Journal reports that the U.S. may be on a slippery slope when it comes to the Libyan mission:

It’s an old question, but we’ve been through enough of these interventions now --from Vietnam to Kosovo to Afghanistan--to insist on asking it once again: Is the United States on a slippery slope in Libya, one that will lead to American military involvement on the ground? The evidence, on balance, is that under President Obama the U.S. presence is going to expand quickly—but covertly.

Read the full article here.

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Reuters reports that Libya's top oil official, Shokri Ghanem, has denied rumors that he left the country.

Al Jazeera television listed Ghanem as one the figures who had left Libya, but Ghanem said in a phone call, "This is not true, I am in my office and I will be on TV in a few minutes."

More here.

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BBC News reports that London Mayor Boris Johnson, a Conservative, offers his concerns about involvement in Libya:

"I am worried that what we may be doing inadvertently is entrenching support for the mad colonel... I do worry that if we get into a stalemate, if the rebels don't seem to be making the progress we hope they would make, then we should be brave enough to say to ourselves our policy isn't working."

More here.

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The New York Times reports that as a second top Libyan official, Ali Abdussalam el-Treki, defects from the Gaddafi government, fears mount within the regime.

The capital of Tripoli was alive with rumored defections on Thursday, with the prime minister and the speaker of Parliament, among other top figures, said at various times to be quitting the country. None of those reports could be verified. But the authorities were taking no chances, assigning guards to senior officials to assure they cannot leave, a former Libyan official said.

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BBC News reports that, according to U.S. Admiral Mike Mullen, international air strikes have been hampered by bad weather over the past few days.

According to AFP, Mullen says that they have not been able to see through the weather to identify targets. "And that has more than anything else reduced the impact... reduced the effectiveness, and has allowed the regime forces to move back to the east."

More here.

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Al Jazeera reporter Anita McNaught discusses the defections in Libya:

"We got word from sources outside of Tripoli that there were at least four senior figures from the Gadaffi administration who were perhaps in Tunisia, or certainly outside the country and not intending to go home. These were, last night as we understood it, the current head of the Intelligence Service, the Oil Minister (and I'll mark a question mark with that in a minute), the Secretary of the General People's Congress, and the Deputy Foreign Minister."

More here.

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BBC News reports on apparent threats in London by a pro-Gaddafi protestor:

Libyan state television has broadcast footage showing a pro-Gaddafi protestor in London yanking open his jacket and vowing to turn himself an "explosive bomb", a video on YouTube shows. The incident is said to have occurred at the protest near the Foreign Office in Whitehall on 29 March. In the clip, which has been circulated widely on social media, the man refers to anti-Gaddafi protestors as "traitors and rats", and exhorts Libyans to "return to the Koran."

More here.

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The Guardian reports that Mohammed Ismail, a senior aide to Gaddafi's son Saif al-Islam, has traveled to London for confidential talks with British officials.

It is suggested that the regime may be looking for an exit strategy. There is speculation that Gaddafi's sons, namely Saif al-Islam, Saadi and Mutassim, are looking for a way out.

Although he has little public profile in either Libya or internationally, Ismail is recognised by diplomats as being a key fixer and representative for Saif al-Islam.

According to cables published by WikiLeaks, Ismail has represented the Libyan government in arms purchase negotiations and acted as an interlocutor on military and political issues.

"The message that was delivered to him is that Gaddafi has to go and that there will be accountability for crimes committed at the international criminal court," a Foreign Office spokesman told the Guardian , declining to elaborate on what else may have been discussed.

More here.

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The Associated Press/Huffington Post report:

Nation of Islam Minister Louis Farrakhan continued his defense of embattled Libyan strongman Moammar Gaddafi during a press conference in Chicago Thursday, and slammed the United States' decision to get involved in the conflict.

The 78-year-old leader of the Chicago-based organization spoke at Mosque Maryam, the Nation of Islam headquarters, according to the Chicago Tribune.

"It is a terrible thing for me to hear my brother called all these ugly and filthy names when I can't recognize him as that," Farrakhan said of Gaddafi, according to the Tribune. "Even though the current tide is moving against him ... how can I refuse to raise my voice in his defense? Why would I back down from those who have given so much."

Farrakhan has publicly defended Gaddafi a number of times since the Libyan uprising began. He reportedly visited the Libyan leader in the 1980s, and told attendees of a Nation of Islam convention in February that the United States should stay out of Libya's affairs.

Full report here.

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Breaking News reports on Twitter that according to the UK Independent, Britain is in talks with ten more Gaddafi officials about possible defection.

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BBC News provides the account of a witness in Tripoli.

According to the witness, any anti-government dissidents who spoke out publicly were deemed by officials as mentally ill and thus detained indefinitely. Because of this, the witness is not surprised that Iman al-Obeidi was immediately described as mentally ill last week.

She is not the first case of rape we have heard of here.

I have heard of two other cases in recent weeks. One of them was of a Moroccan housekeeper who was left behind by her employers as they fled to a safe house because half their family members had been detained.

The story that circulated through word-of-mouth was that security forces stormed the house she was staying in with the intention of detaining the rest of the family. Finding her alone there instead, they raped her.

Read the full account here.

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AP reports:

A top Libyan diplomat now supporting the opposition says most high-rank Libyan officials are trying to defect but are under tight security and having difficulty leaving the country.

Ibrahim Dabbashi, Libya's deputy U.N. ambassador, told The Associated Press on Thursday that Libya's U.N. Mission, which now totally supports the opposition, knew two days in advance that Foreign Minister Moussa Koussa planned to defect.

"This is a big blow to the regime," Dabbashi said.

He said the mission had been waiting for about 10 days for Ali Abdessalam Treki, a former foreign minister and U.N. General Assembly president named by Moammar Gadhafi to be the new U.N. ambassador, to defect. Treki announced his defection Thursday in Cairo.

More here.

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Libya's Transitional National Council has released a statement on counter-terrorism. The council says that it condemns and will combat all forms of terrorism.

Regarding al-Qaeda, the council states:

It emphasizes also its full commitment to the implementation of the relevant Security Council resolutions on Counter-Terrorism, including the resolutions on the Sanctions concerning al-Qaeda and Taliban, with the full commitment to all measures and sanctions concerning any individual or entity associated with al-Qaeda and Taliban as determined by the Sanctions Committee.

The council pledges to help the United Nations and cooperate with it's counter-terrorism task forces.

Read the full statement here.

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HuffPost's Saki Knafo reports:

Earlier this week, rebel forces in Libya fought their way to the outskirts of Sirte, a seafront city about the size of Tallahassee. The day before, pushing westward along the coast from Ajdabiya, they'd recaptured the oil towns of Brega and Ras Lanuf -- Sirte, experts said, was the last major obstacle standing in the rebels' path to the capital city of Tripoli.

Sirte. Before Sunday, few outside Libya had heard of it. Now it's being portrayed as the key to Libya's hopes for democracy, the fulcrum on which the nation's fate would turn. Its importance can be explained partly by location, its proximity to the capital. But it mattered for other reasons, too, reasons that reveal a lot about a conflict with complexities outsiders are only beginning to grasp.

Read the full story here.

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According to The New York Times, U.K. Foreign Secretary William Hague denies that Moussa Koussa was offered any immunity to lure him to leave Gaddafi's regime. Hague reports that he is voluntarily speaking with British officials.

The prosecutor of the International Criminal Court, Luis Moreno-Ocampo, said on March 3 that he would investigate “alleged crimes against humanity committed in Libya since 15 February, as peaceful demonstrators were attacked by security forces.†He placed Mr. Koussa second after Colonel Qaddafi on a list of “some individuals with formal or de facto authority, who commanded and had control over the forces that allegedly committed the crimes.â€

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04:12 AM on 04/15/2011
The world holds a fact of being unfair. Yeah it's true famine and poverty exist all over the world in different countries, and there are really people who are unfortunately did not experience the modern mans life.They are still living in the simplest form of living, where each day is a matter of survival.

Why there is famine and poverty? where in fact the world's natural resources can actually accommodate 3x more of its current population. That is why, We, in IT Courses Sydney
is working together to help reaching out those people who are being neglect or even being exterminated by the government and by the modern world.
01:59 PM on 03/29/2011
What I hope from all this is that the Arab nation will see that we aren't totally trying to wage war with Islam. Let us all hope that Islamic terror subsides after all this
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wuf wuf
11:06 AM on 03/29/2011
Obama talks, Bin Jawwad and Misrahta falls to Qaddafi after shelling and massacre !
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Donald Pruitt
11:25 AM on 03/29/2011
Thought that BHO said this was to stop slaughter of Libyans. BOOTs ON THE GROUND, BOOTS ON THE GROUND, YOU LOOK SO STUPID WITHOUT YO BOOTS ON DA GROUND. When will you BHO worshipper and peacniks learn this important lesson.
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Nina Platter
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02:19 AM on 03/29/2011
Listened to President Obamas speach tonight I thought it was fabulous as usual. But it was informative, and I can not think of one thing he said that anyone can critisize! I know they will but they are the ones who cryed when our President didnt act with in the second day of the whole thing.
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Donald Pruitt
11:29 AM on 03/29/2011
The silence from LIBERALs is deafening. The sounds of silence as Libyans are slaughtered by QUADAFFY. What next Mr. President?
This comment has been removed due to violations of our [Guidelines]
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as salaam 3laykum
08:55 PM on 03/28/2011
Qadhafi should have kept his nuke program. America never attacks countries with nukes.
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Nina Platter
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01:27 AM on 03/29/2011
@jayrag123 what Country are you from? You sound like you are anti-American. Dont forget the people of Libya pleaded for America to help them, and France, Spain, England, and some other Countries of the UN agreed to help with a no fly zone. So for you to even imply that we are attacking Libya is an untrue statement! You are also uneducated as far as nukes! hint look what is happening in Japan right now...less nukes is best!
If you are Libyan Qadhafi loyalist, you should be glad that he did give up his nukes or he may be nuking his own people right now!!!!
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Donald Pruitt
11:26 AM on 03/29/2011
Many folk on here and AH herself are AMERICAN HATERS!
07:17 PM on 03/28/2011
Gaddafi has been a thorn in the side of the United States for years. He needs to go! I liken him to "Adolf Hitler." He kills his own civilians just to stay in power. Any Country's leader should be a reflection of the people they represent. Any Country's leader should be a servant of the people they represent. Gadafi certainly is not. He has not paid for the Pan Am Jet bombing over Lockerbie Scotland where many inocent Americans and other Country's civilians were murdered by Gaddafi's own orders. Sooner or later you must pay. The time is now, and the time is right. "We are not at war with Islam." We embrace the Islamic people with open arms. We are at war with any Dictator who murders innocent men, women and children, especially in their "own Country." Proof of Gaddafi's Dictatorship is his plans for his own sons to take control of Lybia when he retires. The United Nations has clearly stated. "Mr. Gaddafi, your retirement is NOW. Your sons and you need to leave Lybia and the people of Lybia should have control over their own destiny."
08:35 PM on 03/28/2011
How dare Gaddafi provide Libyans with the highest Human Development Index in Africa and distribute oil profits directly to the citizens! Islamists should take over, they did such a good job governing Afghanistan and are doing a spectacular job running Kosovo.
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as salaam 3laykum
09:02 PM on 03/28/2011
would you approve of US bombing omar al bashir in Sudan. He is attacking Darfur, Sudan and South Sudan and he also has militias attacking the Chadian government.
Sudan isn't too far from Libya, its under Egypt and is a neighbor of Libya.

Bashir has killed ten times more of his own people than Qadhafi...............................silence from Liberals.
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Nina Platter
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01:32 AM on 03/29/2011
@jayrag123 you are not very well educated on world happenings. The US been bringing aid to the people of Darfur, Sudan and have had many discussions with Sadan. We have been at war with Iran and Afgan. we are not trying to police the World. But we have sent aid, money, food, and other help as we are allowd.
Of course you are not from America and you are bitter towards us.
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Justmyopinion
07:06 PM on 03/28/2011
Is Obama a war criminal yet? I mean a kinetic military action criminal yet?
lqw
Justmyopinion
06:50 PM on 03/28/2011
talian fishermen have barricaded the entrance of Lampedusa harbour with boats seized from illegal immigrants in an attempt to prevent further vessels from reaching the shore.
Protesters on and off the Mediterranean island on Monday voiced concerns about the relentless tide of North African migrants mainly fleeing unrest in Libya and Tunisia.
"Enough, we're full," read a slogan scrawled on a white sheet and carried by two protesters.
More than 3,000 new migrants have arrived in the last three days alone on the island of 5,000 residents, which lives off tourism and fishing."
Fromm BBC news world
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as salaam 3laykum
08:41 PM on 03/28/2011
Qadhafi was stopping migrants from leaving from libya. LOL
Now their will be a flood of Africans and Arabs coming to Europe from Libya. I love it.
06:44 PM on 03/28/2011
If a large portion of the so called rebels are not from Libya then where? Many people are asking who are these rebels? I'd like to add where are they from? I can't imagine how we can be so involved in this war without knowing these answers. I also believe we should not be involved with another sovereign country's civil war. None of it so far makes sense.
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I heard there was a secret chord
06:51 PM on 03/28/2011
The rebels are locals, but its the mercenaries working for Gadaffi that are out of towners. Sunday New York Times Book review has a good primer.
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Justmyopinion
06:53 PM on 03/28/2011
How do you know that there aren't mercenaries hired by the US ? It's not like we haven't hired these "private contractors" for Iraq and Afghanistan.
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as salaam 3laykum
08:47 PM on 03/28/2011
Qadhafi's fighters are from his area of Libya and also from South Libya(Black Libya) and Qadhafi also has Africans who have Libyan citizenship in his army.
Only a small portion of people in Libyan military are not Libyan. The rebels were grabing any Black person off the streets and claiming they were mercenaries. Many African migrants were killed, beaten, raped in Bengazi.
But the Media was not investigating crimes commited by rebels because the Media wants to see Qadhafi gone.
lqw
Justmyopinion
07:09 PM on 03/28/2011
The US has NO business attacking Libya.
We have enough problems fighting two wars and Obama starts another one ? That's just crazy.
06:22 PM on 03/28/2011
Do conservatives still feel that the POTUS can't answer 3am phone call(s)?
lqw
Justmyopinion
06:44 PM on 03/28/2011
I thought Hillary answered the phone.
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Dreams lean Left.
06:11 PM on 03/28/2011
I've never seen anyone wear so many shades of dung. This, as much as anything, is evidence of how dangerously unhinged Khadaffi is.
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OntheBorder
Part of the 47% that pays taxes
05:48 PM on 03/28/2011
So we have a little “Kinetic Military Conflict†in Libya, that the Sec. Def. cannot justify, in fact he says that Libya is not of our national Interest.

We have then Sen. Obama stating the President cannot go to war without authorization of congress.

We have “Kinetic Military Conflict†without stated objectives, without an exit strategy, without a justified National Interest purpose.

We are supporting Al Qaeda in Libya, after fighting some of these same terrorists in Iraq.

We placed our troops in harms way after consultation with the UN, ignored the Congress of the United States, attacked a nation that poses no threat to the US or its citizens (Unless you are in the war zone we created)

What BS can Obama’s teleprompter possibly come up with to explain this to the American people?

Good Lord, what a Fu**ing Gong Show…..
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polishlogician
No sugar tonight in my tea..
05:57 PM on 03/28/2011
...that's the best you have? But it's nice you have all the talking points, let's see:

actually we have a candidate who said you couldn't act "unilaterally"...said the same thing in his Nobel speech...I don't think "unilaterally" means without Congressional approval...Obama doesn't either, you should reach the speech...

exit strategy? Enforce UN resolution, let Tripoli sue for peace at UN, and diplomats handle it...give it to France, they'd love it...

AQ...hmm, all based on the dreaded Sinjar Documents...which state there are 44 unaccounted for Libyans who signed on to the Iraq War...

no threat? hmmmm, was Kosovo, Somalia, Bosnia?...if this is wrong, then I guess those were wrong...

Should have led with the teleprompter stuff, that's your strongest argument...
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OntheBorder
Part of the 47% that pays taxes
06:15 PM on 03/28/2011
Is that the best you have?

If that is it, you are just propping up Obama for a bone headed leap into community organizing with modern military hardware.

Whats the next stop on the Obama "Save the Innocents†civil war road show?
Dafur
Sudan
Somalia
China – They have been rounding up dissidents and shooting them for years


Come on man, give it up..you are just shilling for Obama.
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Justmyopinion
06:11 PM on 03/28/2011
You absolutely right!
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gomezrules
Why Don't We Do It In The Road?
05:39 PM on 03/28/2011
I'm wondering, will NATO, the UN, and the suddenly vaunted Arab League stand by if a 'reverse massacre' takes place? By that, I mean if the 'rebels' decide to wholesale slaughter any and all who were employed by the Gaddafi govt and regime, will that be allowed to happen?
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polishlogician
No sugar tonight in my tea..
05:41 PM on 03/28/2011
No, I don't think they will...
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Shebagirl
Greedy people are the 'bain' of society.
05:42 PM on 03/28/2011
Who is to know whether the rebels have done in their brothers or sisters. We aren't going to hear about it. They are good and the other Libyans are bad.