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Ohio Union Bill Poised To Become Law

Ohio Union Bill Vote

ANN SANNER   03/31/11 12:15 AM ET   AP

COLUMBUS, Ohio — Labor stronghold Ohio assumed center stage Wednesday in the fight over collective bargaining rights for public workers as the state Legislature passed a bill that was in some ways tougher than that seen in Wisconsin and sent it to the governor.

Amid shouts and jeers in both chambers, the House passed a measure affecting 350,000 public workers on a 53-44 vote, and the Senate followed with a 17-16 vote of approval. Republican Gov. John Kasich will sign the bill by the end of the week.

Senate President Tom Niehaus threatened to clear the chamber ahead of final legislative action on the bill as pro-labor protesters shouted insults at senators and threatened to unseat them in the next election.

Chants of "Shame on you!" filled the elegant, high-ceilinged chambers where legislators are accustomed to hushed tones and self-imposed decorum.

Unlike Wisconsin's measure, the Ohio legislation would extend union restrictions to police officers and firefighters.

But the overall response by protesters in the Rust Belt state, despite its long union tradition among steel and auto workers, has paled in comparison to Wisconsin, where protests topped more than 70,000 people. Ohio's largest Statehouse demonstrations on the measure drew about 8,500 people.

That difference has been attributed to Madison's labor legacy and the proximity of the populous University of Wisconsin campus to the state capital.

Standing in the Ohio Statehouse Rotunda after the House vote Wednesday, union steelworker Curt Yarger said he saw the bill as "a preliminary attack on working people."

"I shouldn't have any disillusion that I'll be next in the private sector," said Yarger, 43, of Mansfield.

Leo Geiger, a Republican who works as a sewer inspector for the city of Dayton and didn't attend protests because he couldn't take the time off, said he's "deathly afraid that this is going to affect me, my family and the entire state of Ohio in an incredibly negative way."

Geiger, 34, called the bill and the way it has moved through the Legislature "completely un-American" and said he believes it has more to do with "political payback" than the budget.

"I find this to be loathsome," he said Wednesday night. "I find this to be disrespectful to Ohioans and disrespectful to the process of Democracy."

Democrats, including former Gov. Ted Strickland, and unions have vowed to mount a campaign to overturn the measure through a referendum in November.

On Wednesday, an estimated 700 people went to the Ohio Statehouse to hear the debate.

The Ohio measure affects safety workers, teachers, nurses and a host of other government personnel. It allows unions to negotiate wages but not health care, sick time or pension benefits. It gets rid of automatic pay increases, and replaces them with merit raises or performance pay. Workers would also be banned from striking.

Kasich has said his $55.5 billion, two-year state budget counts on unspecified savings from lifting union protections to fill an $8 billion hole. The first-term governor and his GOP colleagues argue the bill would help city officials and superintendents better control their costs at a time when they, too, are feeling budget woes.

Most Republican lawmakers promoted the bill as necessary to aid the state's ailing economy through cost savings and government flexibility in negotiations.

"This state cannot pay what we've been paying in the past," said House Speaker Bill Batchelder. "Local governments and taxpayers need control over their budgets. This bill, as amended and changed, is a bill that will give control back to the people who pay the bills."

Democratic state Sen. Charleta Tavares, a recent Columbus city councilwoman, called the bill "paternalistic, patronizing, disrespectful and condescending" to city leaders who balance their budgets annually, not every two years as Ohio does.

Two vocal Republicans who again voted against the bill – Sens. Tim Grendell and Bill Seitz – delivered lengthy speeches on the continuing legal flaws in the bill.

Grendell said House changes set up a system for judging performance in teachers that will harm education in the state.

"They'll be teaching to the tests on steroids now, because 50 percent of their evaluation – whether to keep their job, get a pay raise, I don't know what else – is depending on that test," he said.

Pickerington teacher Patricia Kuhn-Morgan said she was confused by connections being drawn between the bill and job creation.

"As teachers, the best way we can have to job creation is to educate the public," she said.

She said she believes Wednesday's vote will hurt the GOP with voters.

"I've spoken to a lot of educators who are typically straight-ticket Republicans that have said to me that they won't ever vote for another Republican because of how this bill's been pushed through and the democratic process has been abused," she said as she awaited the Senate's vote.

State Rep. Robert Hagan, a Democrat from Youngstown, took issue with the notion that the bill was aimed at saving money.

"Don't ever lie to us and don't be hypocritical and don't dance around it as if it's finances, because you know what it is: It's to bust the union," Hagan told his fellow lawmakers.

Contentious debates over restricting collective bargaining have popped up in statehouses across the country, most notably in Wisconsin, where the governor signed into law this month a bill eliminating most of state workers' collective bargaining rights. The Ohio bill has drawn thousands of demonstrators, prompted a visit from the Rev. Jesse Jackson and packed hearing rooms in recent weeks.

Democrats offered no amendments to the bill in either chamber, saying it was too bad to fix. In the House, they delivered boxes containing more than 65,000 opponent signatures to the House labor committee's chairman.

Kasich has said he won't make a spectacle of the moment he signs the bill because he knows its passage is difficult for union supporters.

"We think we have a program here that's going to allow local governments to deal with fewer dollars, it still protects the right of collective bargaining on things that we think are legitimate and will help people be able to cope in a period of time when we do have fewer resources," Kasich told reporters Wednesday at a separate bill signing.

Batchelder said House Republicans were launching a website, sb5truth.com, to correct what they see as falsehoods about the measure.

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Associated Press writer Julie Carr Smyth contributed to this report.

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madame48
NO..it's a gop Cookbook !Tempus edax,homo edacior
03:36 PM on 04/01/2011
welcome to TEABAGISTAN ...please leave brains at the border
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Whistlejackett
Hey stop doing that
03:46 AM on 04/01/2011
A law? It is only a law if you can enforce it and if it is obeyed. I refuse to obey it. I will never give up my union rights so come get me big boy.
madame48
NO..it's a gop Cookbook !Tempus edax,homo edacior
03:37 PM on 04/01/2011
you are RIGHT... we MUST FIGHT this TOGETHER...as Ben Franklin said.."either we all hang together, or we will hang alone"
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andyc1110
Hippy Socialist in Ohio
07:33 PM on 03/31/2011
There is NOTHING in Issue 5 that saves the state money. There are some opportunities for local governments to save money...but nothing that the local unions wouldn't have been willing to negotiate. Plain and simple, this is payback for OEA telling their members to vote democratic. Ironically, most of the teachers I work with have ignored OEA's recommendations routinely, but will now be voting democratic in reaction to this atrocity.
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pkafin
07:11 PM on 03/31/2011
"That difference has been attributed to Madison's labor legacy and the proximity of the populous University of Wisconsin campus to the state capital."

The difference may also be that Ohioans can put a repeal of this legislative action on the ballot starting right now. In Wisconsin, they can't.
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Linda Motley
NOW YOU'VE GONE AND PISSED OFF GRANDMA!
05:39 PM on 03/31/2011
And, another state succumbs to the fascist take-over of our country financed by big business and egomaniacal billionaires so hungry for power and more money they will destroy our country to get it. Take a cue from Wisconsin - hit the streets with recall petitions to get rid of those who would destroy our freedoms fought so hard for in so many wars throughout our history.
madame48
NO..it's a gop Cookbook !Tempus edax,homo edacior
03:38 PM on 04/01/2011
welcome to TEABAGISTAN
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mogluver
If you can pitch, you can catch.
03:10 PM on 03/31/2011
This event is truly amazing. The Republicans talk smaller government and local control. The action taken in the Ohio Legislature voids local contracts in every governmental unit in the state. They say smaller government, then take control over school boards and city councils and tell them how run their government. They might win a battle, but the sleeping giant of voters who will be affected will be awake and voting, when that happens the conservatives will not understand how it could happen, being deluded in the believing that they have answers to complex problems.
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ScreenParty
My other micro-bio was better...
02:18 PM on 03/31/2011
Corporations have gone from paying something like 35+% of the taxes to 6% IIRC. That is truly astonishing.

Corporations sit on massive piles of money, making record profits... and can't seem to find the Help Wanted signs to save their lives (Coincidence?? Not Blo.ody Likely!)

The recession deepens, the voters turn angry and stay home or vote for "fiscal conservatives" because a few older white people showed up in funny hats at scream-fests, aka Town Halls (some of them probably wore bedsheets before, judging from the signage they carried) and the media fell in love with them.

The corporations give new record bonuses to CEOs as they continue to demand austerity measures from their workers, or else they shiped the jobs overseas.

Just as the financial crisis hits the states, a well planned and executed challenge to the last of the campaign finance laws is about to go to the "activist judges" in the Supreme Court, so they can dismantle the public financing options, leaving corporations the only remaining giants on the field, except for....

Unions. Who suddenly get targeted by the govs to "balance state budgets" that were unbalanced by corporate welfare.

How do they try to cover this up? New abortion laws to whip up the base so they can smash the unions and dismantle the support base of the opposition.

Every day I have to ask myself if this is really happening, or if it is really bad fiction.
madame48
NO..it's a gop Cookbook !Tempus edax,homo edacior
03:38 PM on 04/01/2011
time for the pitchforks, i fear
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EmpyPockets
There's No Vaccine for Stupid
02:08 PM on 03/31/2011
"Every man is equally entitled to protection by law; but when the laws undertake to add … artificial distinctions, to grant titles, gratuities, and exclusive privileges … the humble members of society … have a right to complain of the injustice of their government."
President Andrew Jackson, July 10, 1832
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EmpyPockets
There's No Vaccine for Stupid
02:06 PM on 03/31/2011
Congresses personal taxpayer funded allowance is $1,522,114.00 ea.+ salary 2009 allowance $1,484,174.00 After their unpopular $4700.00 raise in 2009, they touted that they would freeze their pay for 2010-11. Ahh, how nice of them. But. at the same time they voted for a $60,261.00 allowance increase each. Part of this was to give their staffs a 3.5% raise for 2010. I thought federal employees salaries were frozen. Since we pay the staffs salary also aren't they fed employees?
Some members of congress were also very generous in bonuses for staff in 2010.
http://www.legistorm.com/blog/some-members-very-generous-with-staff-bonuses.html

The have their own pharmacy, staffed doctors office, beauty shop,gym, daycare, and it appears per the Congress Disbursement statement http://disbursements.house.gov/2010q3/2010q3_vol1.pdf disbursments july-sept. 2010 they spend about $10-$12K per quarter on bottled water, no wonder some are so opposed to the EPA.

$244B in Pork earmarks in past 10 yrs plus interest. $100B in dup.prog . Roughly $100B in farm subsidy welfare to the rich & some members of congress, small farmers who subsidies are supposed to benefit, gets the crumbs They have 20 weeks vacation per year, then when in session all the lame ducks do is lay rotten eggs. These guys are killing us.
These jokers should be penalized not rewarded. I call for a 15% allowance AND salary cut for the house,senate and staffs.. and so be it.
01:16 PM on 03/31/2011
This law is completely aimed at the budget. The budget is out of control and the value the taxpayers get from the public sector is so poor because of the union's stranglehold over the taxpayers. This law takes back some of that control.

The unions have become so corrupt and protective of bad workers that there were few other options. Had the unions stood up and said we don't want bad teachers instead of providing blanket protection for everyone good or bad, we would not be having this conversation.

Ultimately the taxpayers and the users of public services suffer. Funny how the change Obama talked about is being delivered by the Republican Governors.

Up next: Make OHIO a right to work state.
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SkelDaddy
single payer is the only viable solution
01:18 PM on 03/31/2011
If your assertion regarding the budget is true, then where are commensurate concessions from the well-heeled and corporations?

What you claim does not make logical sense.
01:19 PM on 03/31/2011
The well-heeled and corporations are not tax payer funded
01:22 PM on 03/31/2011
The so-called "well-heeled" already pay half the paycheck to the government. How much more do you want from them. Keep demonizing corporations and then wonder why they move over seas.

The states need to live within their means. The union contracts have become obscene.
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KaAp
02:14 PM on 03/31/2011
I want to add something to the very apt comments by SkelDaddy that I find repugnant ... You have insulted teachers (which I know is a fad in the right wing illiterati), police, firefighters, nurses, bus drivers, janitors and others. I think that is reprehensible. These are your neighbors, your parents, your friends and your family.
01:15 PM on 03/31/2011
The liberal regulars sure do talk a good game.....

Yet they provide no facts?
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SkelDaddy
single payer is the only viable solution
01:19 PM on 03/31/2011
When you provide Fact One, you might get more of a serious response.

I expect that to happen just after you get Hair One, sometime in about 12-19 years.
01:22 PM on 03/31/2011
I have provided facts on each and every post....you have yet to refute ANY of those facts....now you lower yourself to insults

Typical
madame48
NO..it's a gop Cookbook !Tempus edax,homo edacior
03:49 PM on 04/01/2011
you work an 8 hr day, get overtime, safe working conditions and there isn't a 10 year old working next to you....I rest my case
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ummeli
Father, husband, attorney, gadfly.
12:58 PM on 03/31/2011
I work for a large public sector union in Ohio, but I am currently in Germany with a group from my church.

Yesterday we visited Buchenwald. Prominently displayed near the entrance to the visitor's center, and free for everyone to take, were copies of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

Article 23, sec. 4, of the declaration says that all people have the right to form and join trade unions.

The message is clear to all but the willfully ignorant: it is extremely perilous for free societies to restrict the rights of their citizens to unionize.
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SkelDaddy
single payer is the only viable solution
01:02 PM on 03/31/2011
#19. AssauIt on unions is one of the 14 Points which Lawrence Britt has identified as characteristic of fasc!sm.
madame48
NO..it's a gop Cookbook !Tempus edax,homo edacior
03:49 PM on 04/01/2011
teabaggers don't DO that history thing...
SantaFeConservative
Hoping for Change in 2012
01:21 PM on 03/31/2011
Nobody is restricting the right to unionize.
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KaAp
02:10 PM on 03/31/2011
Oh yes they are!
madame48
NO..it's a gop Cookbook !Tempus edax,homo edacior
03:50 PM on 04/01/2011
ignorance is bliss eh?
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hardknocks
the future is unwritten
12:51 PM on 03/31/2011
This thread is like two playground bullies coming face to face for the first time, lots of strutting, name calling and overall bad attitudes jostling for an advantage over nothing.

The ideolog always gets in the way of a civil debate on legislation or free exchange of ideas.
01:10 PM on 03/31/2011
Name calling is the SOP of the left
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SkelDaddy
single payer is the only viable solution
01:14 PM on 03/31/2011
Hardknocks is crying 'a pox on both your houses,' you realize that, right?
madame48
NO..it's a gop Cookbook !Tempus edax,homo edacior
03:52 PM on 04/01/2011
facts are facts...you can choose not to believe there is gravity but whether you do or don't believe, it is still a fact...I would be ashamed if my kid was as ignorant of history and selfish as you appear
Eric4969
Type Today Post Tomorrow
12:50 PM on 03/31/2011
Question why does the Top 2% own 37% of the Wealth Today compaired to the 80's before REAGAN came to office and started Deregulation and Busting Unions it was 13% back then WHEN WILL THE DIFFERENCE BE ENOUGH FOR YOU? Is a 100% of the American Wealth in the Top 2% Hands good enough for you?
01:08 PM on 03/31/2011
How many % signs can you type out in one post

You have data backing it up??

Don't make me embarrass you like I did NOTA
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SkelDaddy
single payer is the only viable solution
01:15 PM on 03/31/2011
TrucuIent fooI.
madame48
NO..it's a gop Cookbook !Tempus edax,homo edacior
03:53 PM on 04/01/2011
remove head from butt...read a book
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NatteringNabob
Unlike cons, my soul is not for sale.
12:54 PM on 03/31/2011
By the way, how has recent polling been going for Kasich, Walker, and the teabaggers?
01:06 PM on 03/31/2011
The poll of the week?

Enlighten us