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South Carolina GOP Threatens Florida In Primary Calendar Kerfuffle

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First Posted: 03/31/11 02:47 PM ET Updated: 05/31/11 06:12 AM ET

A long, long time ago, the wise oracles who keep the celestial firmament in perfect balance decided that the presidential primary season would begin in Iowa and New Hampshire, and later, South Carolina, in accordance with ancient Masonic prophesies. Most of the people who don’t live in those states do not like this arrangement very much, because the way it assigns a disproportionate influence on voters who pick their presidents based on how hard they pander to ethanol interests and how well they flip pancakes. And lately, other states have been bucking to get to the front of the line, so they can feel awesome about themselves too.

One such state is Florida, whose state legislature passed a law in 2007 that required their state's primary be held on the last Tuesday in January. In 2008, the Florida Democratic Party moved up their primary in defiance of the Illuminati and, for a time, were sanctioned by the Democratic National Committee by agreeing to have the state’s delegates discounted.

Flash-forward to today, and Florida is at it again, throwing the Republican National Committee's carefully crafted primary calendar -- which allowed February primaries for Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina and Nevada and scheduled everyone else for March or later -- into disarray by insisting on having their primary in January. This has really cheesed South Carolina off, because the state takes pride in the fact that it gets to hold the first presidential primary in a southern state.

And if you're South Carolina, you worry that if Florida gets away with their plan, other states will start defying the set calendar as well, and then, who knows what would happen? On the one hand, maybe nothing. But on the other hand, maybe it sparks a "race to the front" and suddenly the Iowa caucuses are on Labor Day, or something painful like that. So South Carolina Republican Party Chair Karen Floyd is attacking Florida's decision, and threatening to lobby for something of a nuclear option: strip Florida of their status as hosts of the Republican National Convention:

I give Chairman Reince Priebus great credit for having already stated definitively that the penalties for violating rule 15(b) will be enforced on any state that acts outside the RNC primary calendar, including Florida. Chairman Priebus is also on record as stating that the consequences for states could extend beyond the loss of 50 percent of their delegates, to penalties such as loss of guest passes, hotel location, and floor location.

That being said, based upon the totality of the public statements from Florida's legislative leaders, it is my fear that these sanctions may not be enough to dissuade Florida from the path that they are on. Recently, some legislative leaders in Florida have even floated the idea of a "compromise" by which they would hold their primary in mid-February rather than late-January, an idea that should be unacceptable on its face. One should not get credit for breaking the rules "less" - if Florida holds its contest any time before March, the penalties should still be the same.

This brings me to my purpose for writing you all today:

Simply put, if Florida does not respect the process by which our primary calendar was set, the RNC should not be bound to the process by which the convention site was selected.

If Florida refuses to move its primary date into compliance with RNC rules, I am respectfully requesting that the Committee convene a special task force to select a new site for the 2012 Convention outside the state of Florida.

The Washington Post reports that Floyd's counterpart in Iowa, Matt Strawn, has signed on in support of the idea that "the process to select the site of the 2012 RNC Convention" be "re-opened,"

Will anything come of this? Probably not, actually. Tampa -- known as the "cradle of death metal" -- was announced as the site of the convention back in the summer of 2010, and they've already selected a venue: the St. Pete Times Forum (home of the Tampa Bay Lightning).

Perhaps more importantly, if you browse the convention's website, you'll see that they are already assembling "vendor/suppliers," which means the Committee is probably well down the road in terms of signing contracts. Additionally, Jack Kimball, the chairman of the New Hampshire GOP, doesn't seem too bullish on the idea of relocating the convention from Tampa, saying: "The suggestions that the convention may be moved from Tampa, or that their delegates won't be counted - I'm sure none of that will come to pass."

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A long, long time ago, the wise oracles who keep the celestial firmament in perfect balance decided that the presidential primary season would begin in Iowa and New Hampshire, and later, South Carolin...
A long, long time ago, the wise oracles who keep the celestial firmament in perfect balance decided that the presidential primary season would begin in Iowa and New Hampshire, and later, South Carolin...
 
 
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05:34 AM on 04/01/2011
Who cares how the repubs destroy themselves? They are all a pack of self-serving thumb suckers.
11:19 PM on 03/31/2011
Musings late in evening: Strip Tampa! Select Boise!

Of the four privileged states, only Nevada is trending Democrat with massive increases in Hispanic voters. Yes, NH and Iowa elect occasional Democrats and voted Obama but recently have swung back to the GOP (an exception NH Gov. Lynch). SC is hopelessly GOP. So why care if Florida beats them to the ballot box?

(And what Democrats decided to go with SC? North Carolina would have made a better choice because at least Democrats sometimes win -- Obama and Governor).

If Republicans can't control a simple thing like there own Primary schedule, how can we expect them to lead the country??? Oh yeah, Boehner is having trouble keeping his team together while the budget is falling apart. As Rosedanadana (sp.? help me) said, "Never mind!"
10:42 PM on 03/31/2011
Tampa selection was clearly an attempt to try to raise awareness locally of the republican/ conservative movement. Someone needs to remind them this is a heavy democratic region. Look at the results, democratic mayor (every Tampa mayor has leaned democratic), a democratic city council & US Congressman. The only reason the State representatives in this area may be republican is because of the crazy gerrymandering to preserve the seat.
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07:19 PM on 03/31/2011
I must ask this question......why use a weather map for this story?
06:24 PM on 03/31/2011
Considering the likely ideological bent of most of the delegates to the 2012 Republican National Convention, it may as well be moved from Tampa, Florida to Greenville, South Carolina anyway. I'm sure appropriate meeting facilities would be made available by Bob Jones University. I say Florida Republicans should hold their primary on January 1st.
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ninthraphael
i have my god! He/she doesn't look like yours!
05:37 PM on 03/31/2011
Go boys and let's see how you can bend your own laws!
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silverball
05:16 PM on 03/31/2011
well...as we know, the republi-CONS were never ones for rules....especially when it comes to themselves....
05:11 PM on 03/31/2011
nice to see the GOP screwing each other instead of the entire country for a change.
04:48 PM on 03/31/2011
Are you South Carolinian GOPers going to take this lying down.

Remember "the 2nd Amendment", "Fort Sumter", "the Confederacy"

Now y'all git down there and teach the Florida GOP their manners.
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HotheadPaisen
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07:56 PM on 03/31/2011
man ...I wish someone would.
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Juero
we're living in a fool's paradise
04:42 PM on 03/31/2011
Just solve this whole thing by having California, Texas and New York go first, then most of the country will be covered.
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kyeshinka
04:39 PM on 03/31/2011
No offense to the good progressives in Florida who probably don't deserve this rant, but seriously, we had two terms of Bush Jr. because of you. Nobody will feel bad if you don't get a shot at selecting our next president. Just enjoy your great weather and slow drives along I-4, thinking about that 150-mph train that you're never going to get because you chose another criminal loser to run your state.
By the way, I'm from Iowa. And even though we chose Obama, Hillary won NH, so going first really didn't matter. The rest in the field didn't stand a chance, no matter which state went first.
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tgd
"The more I see of man, the more I like dogs."
07:00 PM on 03/31/2011
Well said!
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librldem
Snarking for Merika n jebus! Glory!
11:56 PM on 04/01/2011
I'm in South Florida and still can hardly believe $k3/3t0r got elected as our gubernator. It's not going to be very pretty down here real quick.
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Marie Russell-Barker
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04:07 PM on 03/31/2011
Hump...uh.... hum....sig.....Didn't this happened last time, and Florida had a hard time getting their delegation counted because of that same move. What are the Democrats doing do this effect them ? If not I really don't care!
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raven119
04:01 PM on 03/31/2011
Children, please quiet down or there will be no dessert after dinner.
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librldem
Snarking for Merika n jebus! Glory!
03:57 PM on 03/31/2011
Shouldn't it now be called the Iowa Kochus?
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06:06 PM on 03/31/2011
I love it!! F & F today.
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06:20 PM on 03/31/2011
libridem 2 hrs. ago (3:57 PM)

Great sense of humor! Fanned & faved.
03:56 PM on 03/31/2011
The GOP selected Tampa, "The Cradle Of Death Metal". Which reminds me of Slayer's album, "God Hates Us All" scheduled and released on September 11th, 2001.

I don't know why, but this all seems too perfect. Death Metal and the GOP go hand in hand.
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07:57 PM on 03/31/2011
They know that Tampa is the lap dance capital of the world.