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Tea Party Rallies To Send GOP Message On Spending

Tea Party Gop Budget Talks

By LAURIE KELLMAN   03/31/11 11:43 AM ET   AP

WASHINGTON -- The tea partyers who helped drive GOP gains in the last election are rallying in the city they love to hate Thursday, urging Republican House leaders – Speaker John Boehner above all – to resist the drive toward compromise in the protracted fight over the federal budget. Even, they say, if that means Congress fails to do its most important job: pay for the government.

And if Boehner opts instead to agree to a deal with President Barack Obama?

"You're going to see massive amounts of (GOP) primaries" in next year's election, said Mark Meckler of the Tea Party Patriots. If the Ohio Republican strikes a budget deal that doesn't cut spending enough, Meckler said Wednesday, "he is going to face a primary challenge."

It's tough talk from a member of the loosely affiliated political force that helped drive Boehner's Republican troops into the House majority last year on a platform of smaller, more austere government. And during three months in power, Boehner's been listening.

On Thursday as Meckler's group gathered in the rain near the Capitol, Boehner said he's glad they're part of the debate. But he also made clear that, like it or not, a budget compromise was on the horizon.

"We control one half of one third of the government here in Washington," Boehner told reporters at his weekly briefing. "We can't impose our will on the Senate. All we can do is to fight for all of the spending cuts that we can get an agreement to."

The House passed a tea party-friendly budget that would cut hundreds of programs and eliminate others, including a costly defense project. It also would to repeal the Democrats' year-old health care law and assorted regulations on industry - all unlikely to pass the Democrat-controlled Senate but the sources of goodwill points for Boehner from a faction he can't ignore.

The intensifying talks are as much a test of credibility and clout for the tea party as they are a measure of Boehner's ability to lead. There's evidence that some of the 87 members of the freshmen class have been educated by their real bosses – their constituents – on the fact that governing is what lawmakers get paid for. And sometimes compromise is the only path to making policy.

"Compromise on the subject of spending is a tough sell. It doesn't mean it's an impossible sell," said freshman Rep. Steve Womack, R-Ark., a member of the Appropriations Committee who won his seat with 72 percent of the vote. Though he acknowledges the voters' mandate to cut spending, "I also live in a realistic world."

Another freshman suggested the no-compromise crowd save their powder. The current, slow-motion showdown is only over a budget to fund the rest of this fiscal year. Just wait, said Rep. Adam Kinzinger, for the fireworks over next year's budget, as well as a must-pass bill to allow the government to borrow more money to meet its commitments. Republicans hope to use that measure to force further spending cuts on the president.

"What I tell folks is: this is like Fort Sumter in the Civil War," the Illinois Republican said Wednesday. "This is the first fight. The big battle is still ahead of us."

Such rhetoric reflects a reality that budget negotiators have assumed for weeks: that with time, those new to Capitol Hill would learn that the only way a budget to passes is with spending cuts that all sides agree on. And that means reductions in the end of somewhere South of the $61 billion Republicans passed in the budget the House passed last month.

Wednesday night, talks centered $33 billion in cuts, and there was evidence that members of the broader Republican caucus weren't balking.

"I don't believe that shutting down government is a solution to the problem. Republicans and Democrats need to work out a compromise," said Rep. Charles Bass, R-N.H. "Let's get this over with and get on to the budget."

The tea party rally Thursday promised political muscle and headline-grabbing rhetoric aimed at reminding lawmakers of the populist budget-cutting furor that propelled them to power. Headlining the event was to be the movement's star and possible presidential contender Michele Bachmann, who also happens to be the top Republican fundraiser in the House.

House Republican leaders weren't expected to attend the event. But Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell is expected to defend the tea party movement on the Senate floor against Democrats who have suggested it has lost popularity.

A new AP-GFK poll of 1,001 adults conducted March 24-28 showed that support for the movement hasn't budged since the election. About 30 percent of respondents said they were tea party supporters, the same percentage reported in all four surveys since October in which the question's been asked.

"If you ask me, the goals of the Tea Party sound pretty reasonable," McConnell said on the Senate floor Thursday.

"These folks recognize the gravity of the problems we face as a nation, and they're doing something about it for the sake of our future," McConnell added. "They're making their voices heard. And they've succeeded in changing the debate here in Washington from how to grow government to how to shrink it."

The senator learned about tea party power in his own back yard last year when the movement's candidate, now-Sen. Rand Paul, won the GOP nomination over one that McConnell had endorsed. Then, in deference to the tea party's demand for a ban on so-called earmarks, McConnell reversed years of unapologetic resistance to such a policy and lined up with its supporters.

Lest lawmakers forget the lessons of 2010 as they face an April 8 deadline for the current budget, the rally Thursday is aimed at reminding them.

"We're still here," Meckler says.

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StJames 09:30 AM on 03/31/2011
The Teabaggers could be in for a rude awakening as more and more citizens are not terribly thrilled with the ones already in office.  The threat of a tea party candidate in the primary is only viable when the rest of the   electorate isn't aware just how bad that candidate is...Now we know...so it might not be as easy to win a primary as it was in 2010.  I must say, these sure are  Read More...
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I, Robot
08:26 AM on 04/03/2011
Let's say you got admitted to medical school. Would you say you couldn't go because you didn't want to spend any money? To a point, spending is investing in your future. The GOP reminds me of paupers who donate all their money to the church and can't get out of poverty because they are paralyzed or people who watch their homes deteriorate but spend money on gambling or booze.
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donnabella
someday, my prints will come . . .
07:40 AM on 04/03/2011
Silly baggers, don't you know your "my way or the highway" schpeal fools no one?
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JoliAvocat
Barack Obama in 2012
12:54 AM on 04/03/2011
The don't have a chance of affecting one more election after Gabby Giffords and the Wisconsin revelation.

All of this horror is this group of aggitating Republicans (aka Tea Baggers). The worst of the GOP broke free and relabeled themselves.

Same name-same GAME.
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4TJefferson
Promote the General Welfare
08:26 PM on 04/02/2011
That was a Rally?
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Coyote50
"Taxes are the price we pay for civilization."
06:52 PM on 04/02/2011
That's a rally? We have a longer line outside my favorite restaurant on Saturday mornings.
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11:37 AM on 04/02/2011
I'm not a supporter of the republican party, but if I were a republican, I would try to take a longer view of this situation. The "tea party" is going to being the republicans down, if they allow it. Pandering to an extremist group that has no actual policy platform is not going to lead to sustainable gains.
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pixiepotpie
If you can buy an election, you can pay more taxes
05:57 PM on 04/02/2011
Ala carte or with a side of extremism; there's still nothing workable there.
09:23 AM on 04/02/2011
"Lest lawmakers forget the lessons of 2010 as they face an April 8 deadline for the current budget, the rally Thursday is aimed at reminding them."

Yes, that rally showed just how weak support is for the Tea Party, when you don't have the Koch Brothers paying and busing in thousands of astroturfers. Politicians if nothing else are attuned to shifting public opinion, and I hope the Democratic lawmakers took notice.
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bynddrvn5
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10:26 PM on 04/01/2011
Why does one tiny small but vocal group, get so much airtime?

Very disturbing, the constant media attention makes it appear as though this is a major movement. Extraordinary level of disinformation from the main stream media.
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Dave4ObamaSinceDay1
Obama will win again. Thx GOP
10:43 PM on 04/01/2011
The baggers get a lot of airtime because they are effective in driving the GOP to the right... If only Liberals would drive the Democratic party more to the left but that would require getting off those couches...
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Coyote50
"Taxes are the price we pay for civilization."
06:54 PM on 04/02/2011
There have been TONS of bigger rallies all across the country on the side of workers, but they are not getting coverage. This is a media issue.
01:59 AM on 04/02/2011
I agree . few know how big the coffee party is . Here in Seattle it is very big . We love our coffee .
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bynddrvn5
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09:55 AM on 04/02/2011
Good point, you never hear about the Coffee party.
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cmdr hlamb
Ditch digger elite......
09:45 PM on 04/01/2011
too bad the tea party doesnt care about jobs.....something could actually be achieved instead of cuts that will do nothing but hurt the working class......namely, themselves......
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Coyote50
"Taxes are the price we pay for civilization."
06:59 PM on 04/02/2011
I know, it's amazing, isn't it? Do you think it's because so many of them are retired? Don't they have grandkids that they worry about being educated or protected from crime and fires or having libraries or.... It's most curious. I think most of them are just old-time really conservative Republicans who were re-branded by Koch and Armey. It was a brilliant move in terms of the Health Reform Bill - it ended up watered down because of their antics, but it's starting to backfire as people see what they really stand for.
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Zen0469
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08:48 PM on 04/01/2011
Buy all the baggers a stiff snort of whiskey, John. You know they'll come around, especially if you strike a fierce pose and yell, "Hell no, we won't"
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seeksthetruth
Why is my tax rate higher than Romney's?
08:24 PM on 04/01/2011
"These folks recognize the gravity of the problems we face as a nation, and they're doing something about it for the sake of our future," McConnell added.

They just don't seem to realize it was the GOP who caused the problems.
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twin1616
Vote against your wallet. Vote Republican.
08:19 PM on 04/01/2011
Now that America has seen the TP crowd in action there is no way that they can win any kind of majority in the US Congress. I really don't get the rationale. Cutting spending means cutting jobs. Cutting jobs means less money going into the economy, less tax revenue and more unemployment. All of that means more of a strain on the economy. The math just does not add up.
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Zen0469
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08:57 PM on 04/01/2011
The baggers don't mind so long as it is everyone else who takes the cut.
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Coyote50
"Taxes are the price we pay for civilization."
07:04 PM on 04/02/2011
The deficit would be cut in half if the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy were allowed to expire. Exxon made profits of $19B and got a $156M rebate; the Bank of America made $4.4B in profits and got a $1.9B tax refund; and GE over the last 5 years made $26B in profits, got $4.4B refund, and paid nothing in 2010. We've gone from corporate taxes making up 30% of our revenue to 6% in the last 30 years. Maybe, just maybe, that might have something to do with our problems.
07:04 PM on 04/01/2011
The budget battle has become a poorly scripted, poorly acted, farce. The Republican leadership, fearful of tea party vengeance, has proposed cuts that either satisfy its penchant for vindictive pettiness, or which come at the expense of the most helpless segments of society. The Democratic leadership, fearful of virtually everything, seek compromise at the additional expense of the most helpless segments of society. The proposed spending reductions are fiscally meaningless and pathetically immoral. I find myself waiting in vain for maturity to intervene in the process.
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Coyote50
"Taxes are the price we pay for civilization."
07:09 PM on 04/02/2011
More Dems need to grow a spine!
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06:52 PM on 04/01/2011
Yeah,I hear they had tens of ones in attendance.WOW! Impressive
02:02 AM on 04/02/2011
I heard it was huge . Some say 20 to 30 people . That's dedication .
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seeksthetruth
Why is my tax rate higher than Romney's?
06:29 PM on 04/01/2011
45 years ago the Koch family was kicked out of the Republican Party for being too extreme. Now they control the GOP. Thanks to the Citizens United ruling, their money and others' influences far too much of our political system.