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Reid: GOP Culture Wars Will Shut Down The Government

Harry Reid

First Posted: 04/07/11 12:29 PM ET Updated: 06/07/11 06:12 AM ET

With reporting by Jon Ward

WASHINGTON -- A government shutdown is beginning to look inevitable, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid warned Thursday morning, charging that Republicans are holding up a deal over ideological issues.

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He also mocked a would-be stopgap measure moving the House as a "fantasy" and a "non-starter."

"The numbers are basically there," Reid (D-Nev.) said in a Senate floor statement. "But I am not nearly as optimistic -- and that's an understatement -- as I was 11 hours ago."

"If this government shuts down, and it looks like it's headed in that direction, it's going to be based on my friends in the House of Representatives ... focusing on ideological matters that have nothing to do with funding this government," Reid charged.

He said that the GOP was insisting on attaching riders targeting abortion and clean air regulations that should be dealt with in regular legislation.

"It's not realistic to shut down the government on a debate dealing with abortion," Reid said. "It's not fair to the American people."

Boehner's office told The Huffington Post that the Democratic spin was "not true", and that policy riders on abortion and other matters were not the only sticking point.

"There is no agreement on spending cuts or policy," said Boehner spokesman Michael Steel.

However, Boehner's office would not disclose how close or far apart the two sides are on spending cut negotiations, but a GOP leadership aide said the gap was not significant.

"I don't think they're that far, but the gap has not been bridged," the GOP aide said.

But they would not say what else was at issue, and sent out an e-mail defending the inclusion of a rider that would ban taxpayer-funded abortion in Washington D.C., saying Democrats including Vice President Joe Biden have voted for such a measure before.

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Kent.) said the House Republicans' one-week stopgap would cut $12 billion and fund the military, and he argued that if the Senate didn't pass it, the shutdown is the fault of Democrats.

"If a shutdown does occur, our Democratic friends will have no one to blame but themselves," McConnell said, accusing the Democrats of failing to offer their own alternative. "This is the only proposal on the table that will keep the government open."

Reid scoffed at the short-term plan, noting Democrats have rejected, and the Presdent repeated that Thursday morning in a chat with House Speaker John Boehner.

"It's a non-starter over here," Reid said. "Doing that is an assured way to close the government... It's not only bad policy. It's a fantasy."

Reid and Boehner met with the President for nearly two hours Wednesday night trying to bridge the divide, and were heading back again this afternoon at 1 pm.

From the ABC World News interview:

George Stephanopoulos: I know you just told Erskine Bowles and Senator Simpson, you want to get these talks moving right away. But boy, it doesn’t sound like it’s going to be easy. Paul Ryan. Spent a lot of time with him yesterday. The Congressman has really come out with a tough response to your speech. Let me-- I want to quote it exactly. He said, "The President was excessively partisan, dramatically inaccurate, and hopelessly inadequate. Instead of building bridges, the President is poisoning wells." Are you poisoning wells?

President Obama: Oh, absolutely not. Look if you look at my speech yesterday it was not so much a critique of what the House Republicans have proposed as it was a description of what they’ve proposed.

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HuffPost's Laura Bassett reports:

The U.S. House of Representatives passed a resolution to bar all federal funding to Planned Parenthood on Thursday, but the Senate rejected the proposal a few hours later by a vote of 58 to 42. Five Republican senators -- Massachussetts' Scott Brown, Alaska's Lisa Murkowski, Illinois' Mark Kirk, and Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe, both from Maine -- voted against the resolution, which was a “technical correction†to the budget bill that passed last week without the Planned Parenthood rider. Ten House Democrats voted in favor of the resolution, which passed the House by a vote of 241 to 185. “It’s clear that Republicans do not support family planning. It’s hard to understand, but it’s clear that they don’t, and have used debate on this bill to spread misinformation about the critical work that Planned Parenthood does on behalf of America’s women every day,†Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Cali.) said on the House floor. “Today’s legislation, which has no chance of passing the Senate and becoming law, thank God, is just part of the Republican agenda that is the most comprehensive and radical assault on women’s health and reproductive freedom in our lifetime, and that’s saying something.†Watch full video of Pelosi’s speech here:

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Reuters reports that without bill approval, funding for agencies may have expired:

The Congress on Thursday approved $38 billion in spending cuts this year as part of a bill to fund the federal government through September 30, sending the legislation to President Barack Obama to sign into law.

After months of wrangling between Democrats and Republicans, the Senate voted 81 to 19 in favor of the budget bill for the rest of this fiscal year. Passage came shortly after the House of Representatives voted 260-167 for the measure.

Without approval of this bill, U.S. government funding for most agencies would have expired at midnight on Friday.

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The Washington Post offers a graph of how the House voted on the 2011 budget (260-167 in favor). View the graph here.

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The Hill reports that the Senate has passed the spending bill in an 81 to 19 bipartisan vote:

H.R. 1473 will cut $39.9 billion from the remaining six-months of the 2011 budget if it is signed by President Obama as expected.

"It represents bipartisan agreement reached between leaders in the House, the White House and the Senate with the details being worked out by members of appropriations,†said Sen. Daniel Inouye (D-Hawaii) in calling on his colleagues to support the bill Thursday afternoon. “It includes cuts bigger than what I was comfortable with, but it is dramatically superior to what passed through the House months ago and equally superior to not passing a budget."

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The Hill reports that the Senate has defeated resolutions to block funding for Planned Parenthood and healthcare:

The Senate on Thursday defeated two resolutions to amend the fiscal year 2011 spending bill that would have blocked funding for Planned Parenthood, and all funds to implement last year's healthcare reform law.

The House passed both resolutions just hours before.

Votes on the defunding measures in both the House and the Senate were a condition Republicans insisted upon as part of last week's agreement with the White House and Democrats on funding for the rest of FY 2011.

The Senate defeated the Planned Parenthood amendment by a 42 to 58 vote. The House passed that resolution 240-185.

The Senate defeated the bill to defund the healthcare law, 47 to 53. The House passed that resolution 245-189.

Both measures were required to meet a 60-vote threshold.

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ThinkProgress posts on Twitter:

@ thinkprogress : Senate rejects defunding Planned Parenthood 42-58. 5 Republicans voted no.

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Rep. Nancy Pelosi speaks out against GOP efforts to defund Planned Parenthood. The caption under the video reads:

Today, House Republicans passed H.Con.Res. 36, a concurrent resolution that would "correct the enrollment" of the Continuing Resolution (H.R. 1473), by adding a section at the end of the bill to defund Planned Parenthood. Cutting off federal funding for Planned Parenthood would have a devastating impact on women's health care across the country.

Planned Parenthood health centers currently provide preventive services to millions of women in need of health care, including the provision of contraception, cancer screenings, breast exams, and HIV testing.

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HuffPost's Jason Linkins reports:

Lindsey Graham has styled himself as the Senate's great dealmaker -- the guy who will shepherd your measure through the partisan thicket and make sure it passes. All you have to do is do everything precisely the way Graham imagines it needs to be done, and you'll be fine. But the moment you hit one of his cryptic procedural tripwires -- ones you often didn’t know were laid in the first place -- Graham goes into full-on snit-fit mode, and vows to use whatever means at his disposal to shut the whole process down.

He's doing it again over the budget deal that was wrought April 8, because it cut an allocation that was to be used to fund an Army Corps of Engineers project that would have deepened the Port of Charleston.

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President Obama offered the following statement on Thursday, provided by the White House Press Office:

“Today, I was pleased to take another step to relieve unnecessary burdens on small businesses by signing H.R. 4 into law. Small business owners are the engine of our economy and because Democrats and Republicans worked together, we can ensure they spend their time and resources creating jobs and growing their business, not filling out more paperwork. I look forward to continuing to work with Congress to improve the tax credit policy in this legislation and I am eager to work with anyone with ideas about how we can make health care better or more affordable.â€

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The White House has provided the following press release:

On Thursday, April 14, 2011, the President signed into law:

H.R. 4, the “Comprehensive 1099 Taxpayer Protection and Repayment of Exchange Subsidy Overpayments Act of 2011,†which repeals the expansion in the Affordable Care Act of requirements for businesses to report information to the Internal Revenue Service on payments for goods of $600 or more annually to other businesses and increases the amount of overpayment subject to repayment of premium assistance tax credits for health insurance coverage purchases through the Exchanges established under the Affordable Care Act.

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CNN radio reporter Lisa Desjardins writes on Twitter:

@ LisaDCNN : SENATE VOTES 47-53 against defunding the health care bill.

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ThinkProgress reports that Sen. Grassley has flip-flopped on his debt ceiling position:

Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA), in keeping with other GOP lawmakers, recently stated that the GOP should not vote to increase the debt limit unless Democrats and President Obama make major concessions on federal spending cuts. That position, however, is exactly opposite the one he took in 2006, when he urged his Senate colleagues to unanimously vote to increase the debt limit, saying it should not be used “to control government debt and deficits.â€

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@ senatus : Budget votes, beginning w/ correcting resolutions, now underway in the Senate.

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The Associated Press reports:

WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama has signed the first rollback of last year's health care law, a bipartisan repeal of a burdensome tax-reporting requirement that's widely unpopular with businesses.

The bill Obama signed Thursday repeals a provision that would have forced millions of businesses to file tax forms for every vendor selling them more than $600 in goods each year, starting in 2012. The filing requirement is unrelated to health care. However, it would have been used to pay for part of the new health law by ensuring that vendors pay taxes.

Republicans hope it is the first of many such bills, resulting in the entire health care law being scrapped. Democrats say the bill is part of an inevitable tinkering that will be needed to improve the health measure.

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HuffPost's Elise Foley reports:

Nearly half of the House Republicans who opposed a budget deal on Thursday were freshmen, many of whom were voted into office in November by a surge in support for Tea Party candidates.

The “no†votes from GOP freshman only made up about 30 percent of the overall class, most of which supported the bill. Still, a number of freshmen said they were disappointed by the deal struck last week by House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio), Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) and the White House.

The final deal cut about $38 billion from current spending levels -- much of it through budget gimmicks -- and blocked funding to certain programs. But the scope and level of the cuts were far lower than in the original House funding bill, which would have cut about $61 billion from the 2011 budget and slashed funding for Obama’s health care law, Planned Parenthood, and the Environmental Protection Agency.

For some freshmen Republicans, already skeptical of the deal, the final nail in the coffin was a report on Wednesday that claimed the bill cut only $352 million from the deficit this year -- a far cry from the $38 billion promised.

“It certainly didn’t help,†Rep. Bill Huizenga (R-Mich.) said of the article.

Rep. Allen West (R-Fla.) told HuffPost he was disappointed with “a lot of things†about the funding deal, from the closed-door negotiations to the final total cut.

“The numbers continued to dissipate. We came here and people said $100 billion, then it goes down to 61, then it goes down to this, and it goes down to that,†West said before the vote. “We’re letting the American people down.â€

Huizenga, West and 26 other freshmen joined with longer-serving conservative Republicans such as Reps. Jim Jordan (Ohio), Steve King (Iowa), Michele Bachmann (Minn.) and Mike Pence (Ind.) to vote against the bill.

Other freshmen GOP members said they were unhappy with the final deal, but would still support it. Pennsylvanian Rep. Lou Barletta said he was displeased with cuts to the Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program, but had to swallow concerns to support the bill.

“It’s not perfect, but it’s certainly far from what they would like to do around here, and that’s spend more,†he said referring his Democratic rivals.

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The Associated Press writes:

WASHINGTON — Tough re-election campaigns looming, a handful of moderate Senate Democrats on Thursday choose between voting to cut off funds for President Barack Obama's health care law or showing their continued their support for the increasingly unpopular law.

The deal on the spending bill struck by Obama, Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., requires a separate vote on cutting off money for the year-old health care overhaul. The effort is expected to fall short in the Senate, but it will put lawmakers on record – a prospect Republicans looking ahead to 2012 relish.

Moderate Democrats such as Sens. Claire McCaskill of Missouri, Jon Tester of Montana and Ben Nelson of Nebraska stood with Obama and Democratic leaders in endorsing the health care law. Abandoning it now would draw charges of flip-flopping while voting to keep the cash flowing could engender voters' wrath.

"People are going to have to make a tough choice, but they're going to be held accountable either way," said Sen. John Cornyn of Texas, chairman of the committee that helps Republicans get elected to the Senate.

Referring to the original votes on the law, Cornyn said, "It's a dilemma of their own making."

McCaskill, Tester and Nelson have drawn GOP rivals in states that either trend heavily Republican (Montana and Nebraska) or stand as electoral battlegrounds (Missouri). Freshman Sen. Joe Manchin has no announced foes in West Virginia and remains popular, but his state voters strongly backed Republican presidential nominee John McCain over Obama by 13 percentage points in 2008.

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HuffPost's Amanda Terkel reports:

With many pro-choice advocates upset that the budget deal included restrictions on access to abortion in D.C., 33 Democratic House members voted against the legislation today. One of those lawmakers was House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), who tweeted, "I voted no on the CR today-we can do better by women, students, #DC and investing in our future."

Thirteen Democratic women voted for the bill.

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HuffPost Blogger Rep. Carolyn Maloney writes:

The Republicans seem to have a bit of a problem these days with truth in advertising. Because, for all their nice soundbites and talking points about reducing the deficit and creating jobs, the Republican Roadmap to Prosperity is most notable for two things. If followed, it would increase the deficit and kill American jobs.

The GOP's widely advertised, surefire method of deficit reduction is not unlike those late night TV infomercials that claim "you can shed those ugly pounds fast without dieting or exercise!" Ask any real doctor and they will tell you that without a responsible program of exercise and diet, the only surefire path to weight loss would be disease. And in fact, a grim variety of social illness is pretty much what the Republicans are pitching. They are trying to sell you a plan to put all the burden of getting our financial house in order on the middle class, the poor, the disadvantaged, the infirm and the elderly.

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CNN reports on elements of the budget deal agreed upon in the House today:

Under the deal, $38.5 billion would be from the budget for the remainder the fiscal year, which ends September 30. Among other things, the package slashes funding from a wide range of domestic programs and services, including high-speed rail, emergency first responders, and the National Endowment for the Arts.

As part of the agreement, Congress is also scheduled to vote Thursday on measures to de-fund Planned Parenthood and Obama's health care overhaul. While the bills are expected to pass the House, they have virtually no chance of clearing the Democratic-controlled Senate.

One point of concern for conservatives was a report released Wednesday by the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office showing that of the $38.5 billion in savings, only $352 million will actually be realized this fiscal year. Boehner insisted Thursday that all of the cuts will take effect eventually, but conceded that the analysis "has caused some confusion" among House members.

"There are some who claim that the spending cuts in this bill ... are gimmicks," he said on the House floor. "I just think it is total nonsense. A cut is a cut."

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HuffPost's Jason Linkins writes:

Wednesday, Politico offered President Obama some advice on how to approach his afternoon deficit speech in a piece titled "7 things Obama needs to do." And for some reason, MediaMatters' Simon Maloy actually read the damn thing, and was surprised to learn that the piece actually offered all sorts of conflicting advice -- almost as if Politico should maybe stay out of this whole "advice to presidents" game.

How conflicting was it? In the second paragraph, they advise the president to "signal to Republicans that he's open to compromise." In paragraph 5, they caution "no matter what Obama says Wednesday, he won't go far enough to satisfy most Republicans." Which would tend to make the whole "signalling an openness to compromise" part a pretty useless endeavor.

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Politico reports that Republicans had to reach out to Democrats in order to pass Thursday's vote in the House:

Minority Whip Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) stepped forward to support the package together with old Democratic allies on the House Appropriations Committee. Across the aisle, Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) — who bore the brunt of the dissent as fellow leaders stood silently by — bluntly told his colleagues: “This is the best we could get out of divided government.â€

With 59 Republicans defecting, Boehner and Majority Whip Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) knew that help was needed, but the dynamics were such that Democrats held back to milk the crisis facing the GOP. Ultimately 81 Democrats — many of whom had planned to do so all week — joined in support, but the majority only cast their votes in the final minute.

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ABC News Correspondent Jonathan Karl writes on Twitter:

@ jonkarl : Initial count: 60 Republican freshman voted YES on the spending deal. Only 27 voted no.

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HuffPost's Jon Ward writes on Twitter:

@ jonward11 : RT @sethdmichaels: RT @2chambers The deal has passed, 260 to 167. With six not voting. 59 Rs voted no, 81 Dems voted yes.

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@ NancyPelosi : I voted no on the CR today-we can do better by women, students, #DC and investing in our future.

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The Washington Post writes about the budget deal recently approved by the House:

Eliminating any threat of a government shutdown until the fall, the House on Thursday approved a funding plan that reduces federal agency budgets by more than $38 billion for the second half of the year.

On a 260-167 vote, a bipartisan coalition supported the plan, as conservatives revolted over what they considered budgeting gimmicks and liberals opposed the plan as too draconian in its impact on programs that benefit lower-income individuals.

The Senate will take up the measure Thursday evening and is expected to pass it on a large bipartisan vote, sending it to the White House for President Obama’s signature in time to meet the Friday midnight deadline for when the current funding resolution expires.

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The House has passed the budget bill: 260-167.

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HuffPost's Sam Stein writes on Twitter:

@ samsteinhp : this thing passed.

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HuffPost's Jon Ward writes on Twitter:

@ jonward11 : CR now has 218 votes and will pass barring some unforeseen change in votes. shutdown averted.

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MissingAmerica
10:44 AM on 04/08/2011
I repeat, "A tale told by an idiot, sound and fury, signifying nothing." We don't need words, we need action. If action doesn't work, we need recalls.
08:38 AM on 04/08/2011
Boehner's office told The Huffington Post that the Democratic spin was "not true", and that policy riders on abortion and other matters were not the only sticking point.

Translation-So in addition to the "Ideological Riders" the republicans want, that have nothing to do with the budget, they also want more cuts. Sounds reasonable. Glad they cleared this up
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08:22 AM on 04/08/2011
No, what is going to shut down government are a bunch of self-serving people whose paychecks will not be affected by the shutdown.
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Erdgeist
per omnia extrema
08:21 AM on 04/08/2011
I can well understand why we may have a shut down of the government. Years ago I found out that arguing with Republicans is like arguing with people who have a major learning disorder. In other words, they don't listen to reason, study history, or study the pertinent facts. Just recently in my coffee shop I got into an argument with a Republican over economics. He goes on about Keynes the economist blaming him for everything—even the Great Depression. Then I asked him if he read anything by Keynes or had he read the classical work on Keynes, _The Economics of John Maynard Keynes_ by Dr. Dudley Dillard. He said, astonishingly, no that he had not!
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08:23 AM on 04/08/2011
Arguing with Democrats is like arguing with a child that wants to have toys no matter what. No matter how much they cost, gotta have their toys. So there (stamp foot).
08:51 AM on 04/08/2011
I don't think that I would consider heating assistance for the poor to be a toy or health assistance for poor children, but then I'm not a republican. I might consider a federal tax deduction for my Yacht (if I had one) to be toy like. What do you think about tax deductions for Yachts mr. republican?
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Erdgeist
per omnia extrema
11:19 AM on 04/08/2011
The last I recall Bush (a Republican) spent several trillion dollars on two worthless wars. Sounds like a big toy to me. I won the debate.
07:45 AM on 04/08/2011
why didn't anyone protest during the Bush years? He ran up 1.3 TRILLION in war while cutting taxes for the top tiers. Did it work? Dick Cheney said "DEFICITS DONT MATTER" and the Republican lemmings agreed. They gave unfunded prescription mandates and wasted money on wars we could not win while favoring the rich. They are the moral mullah Taleban of America. The attack on Planned Parenthood is part of this strategy.
09:05 AM on 04/08/2011
When a Republican spends money and runs up deficits, typically on the military or tax cuts that's a "Good" deficit.

If a Democrat spends money and runs up deficits, by trying to stimulate and save us from economic ruin, that's a "Bad" deficit.

Hope this explanation helps!
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pjbodager
10:43 AM on 04/08/2011
1.3 trillion is a hell of a lot better than 14 trillion!!
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traceymarie
the President is black, deal with it
11:24 AM on 04/08/2011
what individual spent 14 trillion?
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TN60
I Hope You'll Dance
07:33 AM on 04/08/2011
Reid is absolutely right.....

Insert, AGAIN, those lunatic RIDERS, which has nothing at all to do with budgets, but to do with all things Republicans have always hated, their lobbyists hate, and those lobbyist's millions in bribes, and these Koch tea drinking fools.

http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2011/03/budget_riders.html

Take a good look at what these RIDERS , which the hare-brained GOP/baggers slipped in the budget in the dead of the night.

One has to suppose that they are devious, or these loons would have put them there in broad daylight fill with sunshine, for all to see.

These RIDERS are the sticking point of the shutdown, and nothing to do with deficits.

The corporate ideologues, PRESS monkeys, bring up Planned Parenthood, when the rest are the biggest threat.
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TN60
I Hope You'll Dance
08:49 AM on 04/08/2011
And....like any right wing conservative, you took the one sentence of my post, and debate the idiotic instead of reading the RIDERS, which was intended to inform people of what is at stake here.

True switch and bait BS that you GOPoopers are so good at, like your newest darling, the Ryan Medicare fraud, which is suicidal and brainless.

Try defending those RIDERS, if you must debate, and we then can debate their merits, not some school yard tit for tat, which is of no conseqence.
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bbrecht
"pray for the dead, fight like hell for the liv
07:26 AM on 04/08/2011
those who think of themselves as fiscal conservatives had better wake up and smell the coffee. Their new buddies in Congress are anything but fiscally conservative. Shutting down the government is going to cost hundreds of millions of dollars, while our good for nothing Congress still collects their own paychecks. All of this over cultural issues that rabid right tea-baggers want to shove down our throats. Go ahead shut it down, and while you are at it, clean out your desks, or we'll come clean them out for you.
06:34 AM on 04/08/2011
At a time when we're seeing real turnaround in the economy, the total capitulation of Dems for $33 billion in cuts (CUTS during a shaky recovery?! Absurd on its face.) already agreed to should be more than they, or voters, can stomach. So why even discuss this thuggish tactic of policy-making at the budget level?

Forcing ANY policy riders onto a budget in this way should be totally unacceptable, and here's why:
Policy should be made only during congressional session, by majority vote in a bicameral legislature, and once debate is over and the laws are made, then the budget should simply pay for those laws and those policies that won the day. Period.

There should be no room for compromise when it comes to one party trying to create policy during a budget process through threats of fear and intimidation (ie. government shutdown).
This tactic is tantamount to holding a gun to the country's head and saying, We're gonna bypass this whole legislative process of policy-making, and if you don't do as we say, the government gets it!

Yet I thought we didn't negotiate with terrorists.

But Dems are going to give more, and more, in order to do just that. Why they aren't reframing the argument to reflect the basic premise that policy and budget should be mutually exclusive is beyond me. Sound-bites are necessary to simplify for those who miss the Devil hiding in these details, and we need the argument simplified.
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Pappadave
Sane and rational...and Conservative!
07:14 AM on 04/08/2011
One reason why most people don't take so-called "progressives" seriously on budget matters is illustrated by "freerockcity's" comment above. Cuts in government spending during a recession are PRECISELY the thing to do to stimulate the economy and get us moving. Money spent by the government is mostly wasted and "stimulates" nothing, because it spends our money on things it already does anyway...those ubiquitous "entitlements."
07:46 AM on 04/08/2011
Did Bush's tax cuts work really?
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TN60
I Hope You'll Dance
08:12 AM on 04/08/2011
What a load of BS....drivel by any other name, still BS and following Reagan's voodoo "trickle down" failure for 30 friggin years is what this BS has done to us.

"Entitlements" are not Reagan's "Welfare Queens" but what workers have paid for over their lifetime. That is not an entitlement, but a worker's right and no amout of BS can change that fact.
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pjbodager
10:55 AM on 04/08/2011
Great post, thanks for your wisdom.
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erix
Class warfare!
06:17 AM on 04/08/2011
And the GOP temporarily cuts 800,000 jobs as part of its "jobs, jobs, jobs also no gyno care" themed electoral campaign. My only fear is that some people might have actually been surprised by this move.
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pjbodager
11:11 AM on 04/08/2011
If that means the 800,000 government jobs Obama has created then so be it.
06:15 AM on 04/08/2011
"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner."
,,,H. L. Mencken
04:46 AM on 04/08/2011
Let the House Republicans' stop-gap spending measure that would fund the military and only the military for the remainder of the fiscal year show what they really care about. With that spending measure, they care more about the military more than the unemployed, jobs, healthcare for the poor, education for low-income students, and many other things. Tell everyone watching the budget battle about this and tell them, in the budget battle, who the Republicans care most about.
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05:34 AM on 04/08/2011
Yeah, but not the vets. They get screw too along with everyone else. It is right to fund and pay people at war though, if we are to continue at war.
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talkstocoyotes
08:53 AM on 04/08/2011
That's a big "if."

Veterans who been getting screwed for awhile, but if we can't afford Planned Parenthood and NPR we can't afford to continue at war - especially wars in which our troops aren't defending much more than the profits of military contractors.
04:15 AM on 04/08/2011
It's time to stop the practice of "riders".... just vote on a bill as submitted. If a Congressman wants to raise a different issue (or even a related one) let them submit it as a bill and allow it to go through the scrutiny any other bill would. It's that or empower a President with a "line item veto" power.
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08:33 AM on 04/08/2011
I don't think Harry Reid and the Democrats would like your proposal.
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Rita Kothbauer
03:09 AM on 04/08/2011
Shut it down! Send a message to voters that the Democratic party is listening.
07:47 AM on 04/08/2011
Defitcits dont matter said Cheney and Bush.
02:19 AM on 04/08/2011
The Tea Party

Think of them as corporate raiders - they are in government for the purpose of tearing it down - all the safety nets, all the social programs for the last 80 years - they will eviscerate it - channel all the wealth to the already rich and corporatio­ns and then leave town - mission accomplish­ed.

WE MUST STOP THEM NOW - remember they are in government to destroy it.â€

TPers don't care about government­.

They would close it down over a cheese sandwich - planned parenthood is just the first threat.

Like you would treat any stubborn child - spank them.

Shut the government now, make them famous - so we don't have to put up with their BS any more.â€
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ninjasrolled
Orbiting a small unregarded yellow sun
03:16 AM on 04/08/2011
It's not the TP's - Even Pelosi said it's the Old Guard Repubs that are digging in their heels. But you have one thing right, the talking point is on, and no matter what, people will believe it was the TP. Whatever, both are on the same side of the aisle. THAT's what we'll remember.
03:49 AM on 04/08/2011
Old Guard are scared of a primary challenge - TP have them cowering.

The first R who calls them out will be a hero for all the sane R's and I's - who will be the first?

Maybe Scott Brown - TP hates him already...
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talkstocoyotes
08:54 AM on 04/08/2011
***Think of them as corporate raiders - they are in government for the purpose of tearing it down - all the safety nets, all the social programs for the last 80 years - they will eviscerate it - channel all the wealth to the already rich and corporatio­­ns and then leave town - mission accomplish­­ed.***

It's more like people who have been organizing rallies for the purpose of digging their own mass graves. Tea partiers are ignorant people whose ignorance has turned them into tools.
12:09 PM on 04/08/2011
Precisely - problem is that they can do a lot of damage with a few members and that a lot of the country is still being hoodwinked by these "tools".
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fredpa
I will try again tomorrow.
01:46 AM on 04/08/2011
Memo to Harry Reid: Shut up, you feckless fool.
Memo to John Bo**ner: Keep talking, you feckless fool.
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PCPrincess
I'm probably gaming.
08:30 AM on 04/08/2011
Wow.. I'm bowled over by your intelligient argument about this budget impasse. I'd better go right out and change the D in front of my name to R.
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Pappadave
Sane and rational...and Conservative!
11:34 AM on 04/08/2011
Probably a very smart move, Princess.