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Government Shutdown 2011: Inside Wednesday Night's Budget Negotiations

Government Shutdown Talks

First Posted: 04/07/11 11:59 AM ET Updated: 06/07/11 06:12 AM ET

WASHINGTON -- Congressional and Obama administration negotiators worked at the White House until nearly 2 a.m Thursday morning in an effort to finalize a budget deal that would stave off a government shutdown.

But while top aides to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) and House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) -- alongside the White House's director of legislative affairs, Rob Nabors -- were able to come to a closer understanding about the size of spending cuts, a major dispute remains over what type of policy amendments will be allowed in the final bill.

According to a top-ranking Democratic aide, the three parties met last night at the White House for about three and a half hours after President Barack Obama, Reid and Boehner held talks of their own.

The negotiations were productive, the aide said. Democrats agreed to add roughly $1.5 billion in spending cuts to the $33 billion to which they had already agreed. In exchange, they were told that the overall package of cuts would be restructured, with $3 billion in savings drawn from Pentagon spending rather than discretionary programs -- a priority for the Democratic negotiators, the aide said.

The forward movement ended there, however. Boehner spokesman Michael Steel stressed on Thursday morning that "there is no agreement on spending cuts." He also added that the two sides remained apart on policy issues.

Indeed, the Democratic aide, who was briefed on last night's negotiations, said that "talks broke off without resolution last night over riders," the policy amendments that GOP leadership has attached to the spending bill.

Disagreements centered around whether or not the final legislative language should include a revamp of the way federal money is spent on family planning services. Republicans insisted that the system be amended so that funds be sent through state governments instead of directly to organizations -- like Planned Parenthood -- themselves. Democrats countered that such a change would be a de facto means of not just denying abortions but also limiting access to cancer screenings, pap smears, and blood pressure checks, among other things.

The White House, the Democratic aide said, was "very strong" against inclusion of such a rider. On Thursday morning, moreover, both Reid and Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) both issued statements indicating that a budget deal would be blown up if such language was included.

And so negotiators wait to see if the final hurdle can be overcome. Democratic staffers returned from the White House last night and worked on the Hill until 4 a.m. "putting final touches on what had been agreed to on the spending side including the pentagon cuts," the aide said. They are now set to head back to the White House at 1 p.m. Thursday for another in a set of high-stakes meetings.

Jon Ward contributed to this report.

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WASHINGTON -- Congressional and Obama administration negotiators worked at the White House until nearly 2 a.m Thursday morning in an effort to finalize a budget deal that would stave off a government ...
WASHINGTON -- Congressional and Obama administration negotiators worked at the White House until nearly 2 a.m Thursday morning in an effort to finalize a budget deal that would stave off a government ...
 
 
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11:59 AM on 04/08/2011
Stop the government shut down. The Republicans say all business, creating jobs, well I'm a small business owner and how dare they threaten to stop our economy! You would never shut down your business! Shame on you congress men and women, you need to be working harder in these times to forge ahead and HELP US!!!! We are in the middle of the worst financial times in my 25 years as a business and proud to say I have survived! Thanks to no help from anyone! I moved my business this year and not even my bank of 25 years, B of A , would give me a loan. So get it together it is not a time to stop what is hard enough to survive. Kevin Macaulay, salon owner.
02:55 AM on 04/08/2011
This is old news!
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RPDash
You talkin' to me?
11:18 PM on 04/07/2011
Boehner must be so pissed at all these late night meetings as they interfere with his cocktail "happy hour" time.
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11:22 PM on 04/08/2011
i imagine they do get on his nerves i mean seriously who would wanna spend the night listening to obama's and reid's drivel
10:34 PM on 04/07/2011
The deficit for the year we are talking about is 1.5 trillion dollars. You mean we can't cut 100 billion from that? The deficit for the coming year is 1.65 trillion dollars.
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Prib2009
Expect the worst. You'll never be disappointed.
01:40 AM on 04/08/2011
Other cuts were offered, but the teaparty insists on doing away with Planned Parenthood, the EPA and NPR. They don't care about the debt. They're on a crusade to ruin the country.
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Dave Harpe
Was young, now old.
01:44 AM on 04/08/2011
This can be balanced by taxing the rich and ending Bush's wars. They want to do it by cutting all federal aid to the poor, and eliminating Social Security. That won't come close to this number. Why are we having this discussion when many other nations have far more "entitlements" than we have and are doing far better?
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Coyote50
"Taxes are the price we pay for civilization."
10:10 PM on 04/07/2011
Glad to see they were able to trade $3M in Pentagon cuts for program cuts - although if they added $1.5, then it is really $1.5, which isn't much.
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RichPort
Don't blame me, I'm a stoned head...
09:55 PM on 04/07/2011
If the Republicans want to impress me, they'll drop the social issues until next year and suggest the difference be taken from the defense budget. If that means withdrawal of troops or sending Blackwater home, so be it.
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Prib2009
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01:46 AM on 04/08/2011
I can't think of anything that would impress me, but dropping the social issues until 2013 when they are no longer the majority in the house, the senate has over 65 real dems and Pres. Obama is still in the WH would be a good thing.
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HarryP
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09:35 PM on 04/07/2011
No riders, no ammendments, BUDGET is about revenue and spending. Cut from the pentagon, cut the salary of those representatives, cut the perks including healthcare to those representatives,
close the loopholes, stop the subsidies and increase revenue by increasing the tax to the top 2%.
The only rider I would allow is to stop calling billion dollar companies as "small busniess";
And I know that the teabags like to go back a few hundred years, but stop bullying and look forward into the future.
pettiness on all levels has to stop.
(finished my rant)
Merlot anyone?
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dspencer3491
09:24 PM on 04/07/2011
Let's hope the President continues to stand firm on this issue. No irresponsible cuts!
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GrumpyinAZ
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10:50 AM on 04/08/2011
He won't, he ALWAYS gets in such a hurry to make a deal that he forgets what he is supposed to be fighting for
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342HP
09:05 PM on 04/07/2011
If the President doesn't hold fast on this and lets the teabaggers dictate their extreme policies, then he is done. He will no longer have any credibility. He will be rendered moot.
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Jim Marusak
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10:48 PM on 04/07/2011
so how then is the primary challenger that could not only beat obama, but beat the reps in the fall of 2012? i'd like to know so i can support the challenger
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chlai88
Change is the only constant
08:46 PM on 04/07/2011
O yes, it's all about anti-abortion again. Rightwing radicals rail against the extreme Sharia law against women in some Islamic nations while they're pushing their own version here in the US.
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08:23 PM on 04/07/2011
It's time we gathered our torches and pitchforks and stormed Washington!
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Rosie2
Rosie outlook
10:05 PM on 04/07/2011
And what will you do when you get there?
07:45 PM on 04/07/2011
Ok, now, here is a history lesson for all the teabaggers pouring in here all self-righteously demanding to know why the Democrats didn't take care of the budget last year.

Well, they did their part. But Senate Republicans torpedoed it.

The House passed a budget in December and then the Republican­s pulled a Lucy and reneged on plans in the Senate before Christmas . . .

Read and learn.

House Passing in early December:

http://www­.politico.­com/news/s­tories/121­0/46166.ht­ml

Senate Republican torpedoing it in the Senate, forcing the initial Continuing Resolution before Christmas:

http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/1210/122110nj1.htm

The key paragraphs you might want to read are as follows . . .

The short-term CR was forced by Senate Republican­­s who want to start enacting campaign promises to slash the federal budget in fiscal 2011, rather than wait until fiscal 2012. Next year, Republican­­s will control the House and have increased numbers in the Senate.

Democrats had sought to pass an omnibus measure - made up of all 12 annual appropriat­­ions bills - but Republican­­s killed the proposal after pulling back initial support for it. The move required Democrats to move the CR to stave off a government shutdown.
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beerbagger
12-pack of genius
07:45 PM on 04/07/2011
If they shut it down...? And the people have the right to assemble? Could we finally step in and declare ourselves sovereign from the oppressive tyranny that has become the US government?
07:58 PM on 04/07/2011
Only of the Statue Liberty and the DC Department of Waste Management apparently.
11:59 PM on 04/07/2011
Join with Mexico or some countries in Africa they have governments that work well. What planet do you live on if you believe we need a government to keep us safe, educated, and healthy. People like you want country where only the rich have education, safety, and health.
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beerbagger
12-pack of genius
02:20 AM on 04/08/2011
Huh? Derp...
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07:38 PM on 04/07/2011
One of the baggers' organizers/leaders (sic) was on Mathews tonight. He claimed that the baggers aren't interested in the riders, it's about the number. Yet Boehner and other House leaders are claiming that their pursuit of the riders is being forced by baggers. Someone's lying and my guess is, the Speaker. He's simply trying to support his extreme right religious element, not the baggers.
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StarGazingAwe
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07:57 PM on 04/07/2011
Follow the money. Who's got the most money at stake? Most likely the Speaker.
10:03 PM on 04/07/2011
You are the first progressive failure to figure it out. The tea party i belong to is about curbing Irresponsible debt by cutting spending and limiting big government intrusion into our lives. The riders don't bother us, but the the riders are from Boehner and the social conservatives not the tea party. He is hijacking the the moment to ultimately undermine the tea party. Planned parenthood is toast later when we slash hundreds of billions from the budget, and everyone's sacred cows will line up for slaughter.
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rmarie
Tee hee...
01:07 AM on 04/08/2011
Do you know just how small a percentage of the population the Tea Party comprises? I know you're funded by big money and the media likes to talk about you because of that influence, but seriously...people aren't going for the BS. You don't represent America, you represent ignorant, small-minded people that are afraid of progress. So as for you slashing hundreds of billions and getting rid of PP, that's only happening in your dreams.