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Royal Bride's Virginity No Longer An Issue For Brits

By GREGORY KATZ   04/08/11 09:41 AM ET  AP

LONDON -- The once hidebound royal family seems to have caught up with Britain's tolerant public in the three decades that separated Prince Charles' marriage to Diana Spencer from the wedding of their first born.

Few people – royal or otherwise – seem bothered by the fact that Prince William and his fiancee, Kate Middleton, have been living together off and on during the course of their eight-year romance, which began in university days.

That's a marked turnaround from the days preceding Charles and Diana's 1981 marriage. At that time, there was a general expectation that Diana would not have dated before her engagement to the heir to the throne, and her own uncle came out publicly to declare her a "bona fide" virgin.

The more modern approach gives many royal watchers hope that William, 28, and Middleton, 29, will fare better in their marriage than Charles and Diana, whose very public marital breakdown tarnished the image of the royal family.

William, said royal expert Dickie Arbiter, is "his own man."

"He's made his own space and he decides what he wants to do and when he wants to do it," Arbiter said. "The fact that William and (Kate) have had a relationship for eight years speaks for itself."

William's decision to live with his fiancee has been met, in general, with a shrug. The British public seems comfortable with the royal family having updated its unwritten behavior codes to bring them more in line with widely held social values.

"We live in a modern age and people do all sorts of things before they settle down," said Keith Morley, 34, an engineer from Birmingham. "It's probably best that they lived together before making a commitment."

Some historians say it's about time the royals shed their prudishness about the past of new entries into their family. When Charles and Diana wed, his history of dating was not an issue. Charles may well have wanted to marry girlfriend Camilla Shand, but she was not seen as an appropriate choice because she had had several previous boyfriends. She became Charles' second wife decades later.

Deborah Cohen, a historian at Northwestern University in Chicago who specializes in modern Britain, says the failure of Charles and Diana's marriage apparently convinced the royal family that its rigid standards were backfiring.

"After two decades of scandal, I think it's the royal family recognizing that to be normal is to their advantage," she said. "It's a canny refashioning of the image. There is no longer an investment in being anachronistic, or a public expectation that they ought to be harkening back to a different era of sexual politics."

Royal attitudes toward sexuality have never been based on fixed rules but rather unwritten conventions. The code of behavior has evolved – slowly – over the centuries as social values change. It is the monarch who sets the tone, so the views of Queen Elizabeth II have prevailed for nearly six decades.

Practical concerns, more than squeamishness about sex, were behind the royal family's historic concerns over the sexual status of a bride joining the royal family, Cohen said, because there were fears that a princess carrying another man's child could bring an illegitimate heir to the throne. This was particularly important before paternity testing.

By Diana's time, Cohen said, the issue had come to represent a yearning for lost innocence as Britain – with Europe's highest divorce rate – was gripped by a perceived social breakdown.

A spokesman for Prince William, who refused to be identified because of royal policy, said palace officials would not comment on whether attitudes have changed, preferring to leave that role to others.

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Associated Press writer Aaron Edwards contributed to this report.

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Aquinnah1
03:51 PM on 04/15/2011
What's this all about? Is there a big wedding coming up? The media should publicize these things, for crying out loud.
http://eightfits.blogspot.com/2011/04/rule-britannia-britannia-rules-airwaves.html
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Tom Kohls
On Wisconsin
01:56 PM on 04/26/2011
Yeah, you would think some of would hear about this. Oh, the mail is here and there must be my invitation.
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11:57 AM on 04/15/2011
The whole virgin thing is hypocritical, sexist and antiquated, just like the monarchy.
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MissKaren
12:52 PM on 04/14/2011
You mean the royals have opted for mental health and happiness in their future leader? OMG. I'm shocked, I tell you. Shocked.
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Californiadesi
02:32 AM on 04/13/2011
What was that all about ? Is this a marriage of gentalias or marriage between two beautiful human beings who love each other and been together for the past 8 years ? Is that not enough of a testament of commitment and dedication ?
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deatrix
to think-is not illegal YET
10:49 PM on 04/12/2011
what, she is not a virgin??? ooh, may. what are they gonna put on the sheets now, to show it in the public square ??? big dilemma...oh wait, i know: BP will take care of that :D
07:25 PM on 04/12/2011
Thank goodness, now the Queen won't have to run through London's streets yelling with the blood stained marriage night sheet waving over her head!
06:34 PM on 04/12/2011
What? She can now become married?
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
03:57 PM on 04/12/2011
The teeth are just foreign.

Her oral orifice has clearly never been invaded by a brit dentist.
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WillieBlack
04:28 PM on 04/12/2011
And never seen in sweatpants.

So, obviously no American blood.
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European1919
I am the Pigmâ’¶n
04:33 PM on 04/12/2011
Phew! What a relief ;-)))
11:04 AM on 04/12/2011
No surprise, the UK has Europe's most promiscuous youth.
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WillieBlack
04:25 PM on 04/12/2011
The USA has the worlds f@ttest youth.
06:35 PM on 04/12/2011
Which would you prefer....a good squeeze, or fat?
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MissKaren
12:54 PM on 04/14/2011
It's not promiscuous if they are faithful to one another. Promiscuity assumes multiple partners. Consult your dictionary.
10:09 AM on 04/12/2011
whew!
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YourNewNeighbor
Dancing with the Stones
08:21 AM on 04/12/2011
"William, said royal expert Dickie Arbiter, is "his own man.""

I wouldn't want anyone named Dickie Arbiter within miles of my bedroom on my wedding night. He sounds like a seexxx critic.
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cliffhammond
Onward through the fog!
01:18 AM on 04/12/2011
I've never had her but I've had the Queen Mum.
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KirkPowers
10:15 PM on 04/11/2011
Well if all she has done was perform fellatio on the prince, then technically she is still a virgin
03:31 AM on 04/12/2011
Using the Bill Clinton definition I see.
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YourNewNeighbor
Dancing with the Stones
08:22 AM on 04/12/2011
Not if she slept with other men. She's a big girl with a knowing twinkle in her eye.
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lulubelle1956
10:04 PM on 04/11/2011
Don't see why his virginity isn't being discussed--pretty medieval approach to focus only on the woman--and not how many illegitimate children he might have fathered already.
08:29 PM on 04/12/2011
It goes back to the ancient practice of treating women like property. If the woman isn't a virgin, then it's like buying a used car. Not something a Prince would do. No matter how many cars a Prince drives, when he buys one, he doesn't want any scratches on the paint.
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lulubelle1956
08:39 PM on 04/12/2011
Well, I hope he is supporting his non-marital children, if any. Don't think any "virgin" wife would be thrilled to be marrying a man who has untold financial obligations to untold non-marital children. Such a woman is not getting a Rolls Royce, more like a Toyota.
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TYRANNASAURUS
UGH!....people taste like crap!
06:09 PM on 04/11/2011
Royal Bride's Virginity No Longer An Issue For Brits....

CAN'T WAIT........for this royal crap to be over.........it's impossible to get away from this media saturation of garbage.