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US-2012 Primary: 15% Huckabee, 14% Romney, 12% Palin, 11% Trump (Fox 4/3-5)


First Posted: 04/08/11 12:18 PM ET Updated: 06/08/11 06:12 AM ET

Fox News / Anderson Robbins Research (D) / Shaw & Company Research (R)
4/3-5/11; 914 registered voters, 3% margin of error
244 Republicans, 5% margin of error
Mode: Live telephone interviews
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2012 President: Republican Primary
15% Huckabee
14% Romney
12% Palin
11% Trump
9% Giuliani
7% Gingrich
4% Pawlenty
3% Paul
3% Daniels
2% Santorum
2% Bachmann
2% Cain
1% Barbour
1% Huntsman
1% Johnson

2012 President: General Election
52% Obama (D), 34% Trump (R)

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09:58 AM on 04/11/2011
These are great and show the Rhodes scholars we elect to congress.

http://hotair.com/archives/2011/04/08/videos-dem-reps-compete-for-title-of-most-hyperbolic-demagogue-of-2011/
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11:33 AM on 04/11/2011
It doesn't take a Rhodes scholar to tell that Eleanor Holmes Norton is not a full member of congress.
05:10 PM on 04/10/2011
As an independent I just don't get the GOP and the Dems. Why is it that we either have to decrease spending or raise taxes? Why can't we do a little of both?

Personally I feel that spending should be cut and that taxes on the highest income brackets should be raised, and as the economy recovers taxes in the middle brackets should be raised as well and more spending should be cut. Seems that the politicians on both sides will never do this though. Always has to be one or the other, it just can't possibly be both.
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06:04 PM on 04/10/2011
I don't think that's entirely true. Paul Ryan a few weeks ago said he was okay with a tax increase - provided spending is brought under control.

It makes no sense to raise taxes in order to pay for the profligate spending habits (or war-starting habits, take your pick) of politicians in Washington.
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06:21 PM on 04/10/2011
Ryan's plan closes loopholes and cuts rates on the rich and corps. Which is exactly the course that most economists agree increases tax revenues.
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07:49 PM on 04/10/2011
Yeah, this wasn't in the context of his plan though, just more of a general statement.
07:35 PM on 04/10/2011
I for one would be ok with a tax increase, but before any tax increase has to come meaningful spending cuts, otherwise the tax increase just goes to waste and is lost i nthe over spending nightmare that we are in. I would support the GOp if they put forth big spending cuts followed by responsble tax increases....however I am a big beleive that corporate tax loop holes need to be closed and the tax rate dropped for corporations...............
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04:48 PM on 04/10/2011
Why does Christine Gregoire hate unions?
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/politics/2014725476_rally9m.html
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06:17 PM on 04/10/2011
I think the left has pretty much lost that fight in the court of public opinion already. As much effort as was thrown into the justice election in a royal blue state of WI and still lose...CA and NY Dem govs are also forced to take the same measures as Scott Walker has.

This is from a year ago.

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/apr/06/opinion/la-oe-crane6-2010apr06

final paragraph: "In California's case, past pension underfunding means reduced funding of current programs. This explains why pension costs rose 2,000% from 1999 to 2009, while state funding for higher education declined over the same period."

My oldest daughter has taken classes at a nearby community college all throughout high school, especially during summers. Now my youngest one is in HS, and the college has drastically reduced number of classes, and CANCELED summer session altogether. So I am gonna try to enroll her at the next nearest college, 40 miles away, which I have little hope to do so, since spaces were already very limited even when all of the local colleges had large summer session class selection.

And this is all because my government provided garbage collector makes $150,000 per year. Like they couldn't find a guy who'd pickup the trash just as magnificently for like 50k. Ef them all!
07:29 PM on 04/10/2011
Stat - Are you amking the unbeleivable claim that g'ment pension costs are reducing the aquality and affordability of higher education? Are you lcaiming that obsene benefits to public employees are also a drag on higher education?

I feel your pain, your kids are older than mine, but my son is applying for colleges right now....his school of choice si going to cost me $26,600.......just shoot me now please.
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07:58 PM on 04/10/2011
My oldest is a HS senior, and on her way to college this fall too, Stillow. Will cost me about the same as yours. In-state tuition is up 40% over the past three years. My second and final is a HS sophomore.
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10:05 PM on 04/10/2011
I just presume that X was among their number, or is he a closet union hater as well?
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11:30 AM on 04/11/2011
You think its that easy to get me to bite? heh
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10:08 PM on 04/09/2011
Not being noted in many of the stories (justifiably I suppose), but Boehner got the SOAR program (DC school vouchers) funded again after Dems killed funding last year. Very pleased about that.
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02:30 PM on 04/09/2011
"One of the more intriguing parts of the budget deal announced late last night was a commitment from Harry Reid to allow two floor votes on Republican legislative priorities, both of which would never have otherwise seen in the Senate chamber before 2013. The first is the effort to defund Planned Parenthood, a rider that got stripped out of last night’s final compromise, which would have an uncertain future in the Senate anyway. The second, though, holds a great deal more promise, and a great deal of political risk for Democrats:

House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, agreed to remove the Planned Parenthood provision in exchange for an agreement that would allow Congress to take up the funding issue separately.The Republicans also won inclusion of a provision that will require the Senate to vote on a bill to de-fund the health care reform law.

This codicil didn’t even get a mention in other news reports, but could be one of the more significant aspects of the agreement..."

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2702242/posts
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Xenobion
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02:52 PM on 04/09/2011
I'm sure the kill PP funding will go with the kill Medicare vote next week. What a hootenany!
04:08 PM on 04/09/2011
No real need to pick on X on this one....he knows Dems got clobbered, Dems know they got clobbered....he is just playing his part and tryign to put the brightest spin on it....cons would be doing it to had we got clobbered on this one....

The GOp had a greater victory as well since the narrative is now cut cut cut, not spend spend spend. The coming fight over the 2012 budget and the debt ceiling are the real big fights, this one was just small potatos....though the GOp sould enjoy the victory....come next week the other ights begin.........
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05:05 PM on 04/09/2011
Yeah, I know there is no real need, Stillow, but nor is there any real need for cake after dinner :-)
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05:03 AM on 04/10/2011
Nice spin on my words, I think I've voiced how Dems and Republicans won and Tea Party lost last night. It should be the first round of victories to take down that arm of the Republican Party and it will end when Bachmann gets clobbered in the Presidential Primary.
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02:13 PM on 04/09/2011
Robert Reich on the budget deal:
"The right held the U.S. govt hostage, and O paid most of the ransom — inviting more hostage-taking. Next is raising debt ceiling."

Anthony Weiner on the same:
"This feels an awful lot like the tax cut deal. I gotta bad feeling."

So yeah, yay Democrats. Y'all totally won. Team Blue!
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02:54 PM on 04/09/2011
Like I said. Obama was forced to cut 1% of his budget. We're fighting over pennies and programs more than enough Democrats are willing to cut in the face of the overall budget.
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10:17 AM on 04/09/2011
Now, the real fight begins for the budget for FY12. I hope Ryan and the House start with a TRILLION dollars in cuts.
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01:24 PM on 04/09/2011
Unlikely, the numbers are wrong.
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07:52 AM on 04/09/2011
Flashback:http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/141985-reid-blasts-house-gop-proposal-as-draconian-and-unworkable

February 2011, Harry Reid calls $32 billion in cuts "unworkable" and "draconian".

So now, when Republicans wind up winning even more than $32 billion in cuts, the Democrats are the winners? That's hilarious stuff.
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01:36 PM on 04/09/2011
As long as we're talking about the past, I think you're forgetting the part where Democrats then agreed to those initial cuts and were quite satisfied with them thus the 33 billion dollar mark that Dems had planned to cut anyways. Republicans balked when the Democrats actually agreed to these terms and ran back to the Tea Party caucus where they demanded a much more extreme proposal of 61 billion or in Bachmann's case 100 billion. When the real talks began this week and a deal was finally come to, we were no where near 100 billion or 61 billion. A Tea Party loss is actually a Dem win.
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01:52 PM on 04/09/2011
Please, even the lib talking heads on CNN are forced to concede that it's a huge win for Tea. They're driving the debate while BOBO and the Dems are just dancing and dodging. Now the 2012 budget, instead of to cut or not to cut battle, will feature the to cut huge huge huge vs to cut huge huge one. They got the public with them, and they have already won big. (don't mean last night's $$)
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02:07 PM on 04/09/2011
“The deal that was reached tonight is a disappointment for me and for millions of Americans who expected $100 billion in cuts, who wanted to make sure their tax dollars stopped flowing to the nation’s largest abortion provider, and who wanted us to defund ObamaCare," Bachmann said in a release. "Instead, we’ve been asked to settle for $39 billion in cuts, even as we continue to fund Planned Parenthood and the implementation of ObamaCare. Sadly, we’re missing the mandate given us by voters last November, and for that reason I voted against the Continuing Resolution.â€
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02:24 PM on 04/09/2011
Don't worry about her. She is happy. That's just positioning for the real battle yet to come. It would be foolish to pop champagne corks in public.
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04:52 AM on 04/09/2011
Good Night Cons, Crisis averted. I really would have enjoyed this to go on for 20 days so that no Republican Presidential Candidate would announce running but alas I suspect we'll start to hear people announcing soon. Boehner is a stand up guy and I know he didnt' want PP and EPA funding mixed in the bill, albeit that I wouldn't hire the guy to haggle with a car salesman. Now lets all celebrate how 1% of the Federal Budget actually mattered to the deficit. My one sympathetic vote goes to Paul Ryan who put out a budget that wasn't even considered then attacked by liberals and conservatives alike. Who said it once? Fuzzy Math?
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07:38 AM on 04/09/2011
Uh, Paul Ryan's budget had nothing to do with these discussions. His budget is for the next year.
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01:22 PM on 04/09/2011
And I'm sure for many other years in the future as well.
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11:33 AM on 04/09/2011
Wow, X is more confused that previously reported.
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01:25 PM on 04/09/2011
Hyperbole only works if you also attack a point of mine.
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11:00 PM on 04/08/2011
Poor Obama. No shutdown.
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11:52 PM on 04/08/2011
Poor Republicans, let the infighting begin! Obama, Reid, Boehner wins, Tea Party loses as I expected.
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12:33 AM on 04/09/2011
Largest spending cut in real dollar terms in history? A figure that was far far bigger than the number Democrats originally wanted to cut?

It's tough to paint this as a loss for the Tea Party.

Dave Weigel, hardly a conservative, phrased it like this tonight:
"For the second time in five months, the White House has faced a political crisis, looked at an opposition that completely disagreed with liberal economics, and blinked. Five months ago, automatic tax increases were stopped, and the GOP got a validation of supply-side economics. Tonight, in a battle over a much smaller amount of money, the Democrats signed on to austerity economics. They didn’t have much of a choice, but they didn’t challenge the premise, either. We’re a long way from the “Sputnik moment.â€"

If your big accomplishment is preserving $330 million or so in PP funding, well bully for you!
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01:17 AM on 04/09/2011
Tea party lost what exactly? If you're talking about PP, I keep telling you, Tea Party does not deal in social policy. Whoever wanted PP defunded came from the non-Tea Party side of the caucus. Not a Tea Party issue. You keep commenting on something you are very confused about.
12:15 AM on 04/09/2011
Nice X, but no one won or lost....i anything the GOP probably got a slightly better deal thanthe Dems..the Obamacare vote in the Senate will put key Dems on record now, Mccaskil, tester, Manchin, etc....gonna be a tough vote for them coming up for re-election.

All in all the whole thing seemed to be a giant waste of time Had Dems done there job last year this would not even have been an issue......

We all know the real battle is next years budget.....that is when the fireworks really start...that is going to be a knock out blody mess of a fight later this year.
12:24 AM on 04/09/2011
It was fun though watching the media act like jr. high school girls waiting for their prom date to arrive. I think I saw a tear drop in Anderson cooper's eye when the compromise was reached......

What a waste of time.............Really since 2000 thru today we have tunred into a banana republic.
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04:46 AM on 04/09/2011
Denial is a river that runs down Boehners face tonight, let it be tears or an expression he handled the double edge sword nicely. I only wonder how long before the Tea Party primaries him and dubs him weak.

I do enjoy the talking point that Dems "didn't do their job", man that one really didn't stick this time as Republicans only had... say... 3 months to pass this bill and well if I recall Republicans were FILIBUSTERING EVERYTHING last year. Nice try though.

I'm glad the Republicans are waking up and seeing that they can't appease the unreasonable demands of the Tea Party. I wonder how long it will take to go out of fashion like the Bull Moose Party.
01:57 PM on 04/08/2011
You libs are missing the point. Carrie Prejean is hot! This along with her homophobic comments has made her a right wing hero. In related news the GOP and Mattel have formed a partnership to market barbie dolls based on right wing heros. There is of course, Prejean, Palin, Malkin, the Fox news anchors, and Bachmann. In somewhat of a setback to the venture, Stephen King has sued the partnered corporations over the striking resemblance between the Ann Coulter doll and his fictional character, Cujo.
02:47 PM on 04/08/2011
Will they bein the husky section next to the Janet Reno action figures, fully equipped with flame throwers and all? Or will they be located in the plastic surgery section next to everyones favorite numbed face superhero, Ms. Pelosi. Or the GI Joe section where everyone's favorite pantsuited hero can be found fully equippe with sniper fire dodging accessories?

I love Fridays...............
03:40 PM on 04/08/2011
Excellent point Stillow1: Dems choose female figureheads based on merit, while the GOP evaluates them based on the likely volume of barbie doll sales.
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03:35 PM on 04/08/2011
Are you calling Obama homophobic? Biden to for that matter?
04:23 PM on 04/08/2011
To be honest with you, I think Obama might be Bidenphobic.....
12:25 PM on 04/08/2011
Rightbrainedleftwinged,

Would another Obama/Biden ticket be any less insane? I don't think so and I voted for it fhe first time.

Until we get real candidates like Christie or Daniels that are willing to run we will continue to be forced to vote for the lesser of two evils and the bottom of the barrel for presidents.
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04:56 PM on 04/08/2011
Everyone will be the lesser of two evils. You'll never vote for someone you actually like in all aspects. Sorry to burst your bubble.
05:32 PM on 04/08/2011
Not really. I've voted for people who weren't the lesser of two evils. And I do not have to agree with a 100% of a candidates platform to think they are good. I just need to see them actually lead, take pragmatic steps, and put the country ahead of his party. That isn't happening now and hasn't happened since Clinton and welfare reform.
07:30 PM on 04/08/2011
Clinton was dragged into welfare reform.......X is mostly correct that almost all elections are about the lesser of two evils....you probably have to go back to Reagan in 1984 to find a candidate that people were really proud to vote for.....someone who you actually wantded to vote for..
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11:58 AM on 04/08/2011
I hope Trump gets in the race. He needs Romney, and Pawlenty to compete for the bluer states, while Huckabee can get the south and all the culturally conservative states in the midwest.

The ultimate ticket of insanity would be Huckabee/Trump. I guess Trump will have to do one more thing: Make up with the beauty queen Carrie Prejean who was expelled from her title because of her homophobic comment. Trump was head of that committee.
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12:04 PM on 04/08/2011
I can't even believe people are thinking of Trump... 11% really?
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03:43 PM on 04/08/2011
I know. How sad is that?
12:13 PM on 04/08/2011
And we all know that Trump won't run because he won't submit himself to the financial disclosure forms, he's sued in the past over estimations of his wealth (lack of it).....