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Budget Battle: Analysis Suggests Republicans Won First Round

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By CHARLES BABINGTON   04/ 9/11 08:35 PM ET   AP

WASHINGTON -- Republican conservatives were the chief winners in the budget deal that forced Democrats to accept historic spending cuts they strongly opposed.

Emboldened by last fall's election victories, fiscal conservatives have changed the debate in Washington. The question no longer is whether to cut spending, but how deeply. Rarely mentioned is the idea of higher taxes to lower the deficit.

Their success is all the more notable because Democrats control the Senate and White House.

But more difficult decisions lie ahead, and it's not clear whether GOP lawmakers can rely on their winning formula. They pushed Democrats to the brink, then gave in just enough to claim impressive achievements, rather than holding the line and triggering a government shutdown that might have yielded far less politically.

The GOP victories came on spending. Their concessions dealt mainly with social issues, where they tried to limit abortions and restrict environmental rules.

House Republicans who care intensely about such social issues may fight harder next time, giving Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, fewer bargaining chips to appease Democrats. Tea party Republicans, some of whom found the cuts too small in Friday's last-minute agreement, might insist on deeper ones from now on.

Two fast-approaching debates could make this past week's showdown look like a preliminary skirmish.

Congress soon must vote to increase the government's borrowing limit to avoid the first-ever default on U.S. loan payments. With the 2011 budget battle still fresh, lawmakers are now focusing on the spending debate for the fiscal year that begins Oct. 1. The House Budget Committee has approved, on a partisan vote, a bill that would cut spending by $5.8 trillion over 10 years and make major cost-saving changes to the Medicare and Medicaid health programs.

These are the big-picture, big-money issues that tea partyers have awaited eagerly. Many have pledged to vote against a higher debt ceiling without major give-backs from Senate Democrats and President Barack Obama. The 2012 spending blueprint written by the House Budget Committee chairman, Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis., is on a collision course with Democrats determined to allow only modest changes, if any, to Medicare, Medicaid and other programs.

"It will be much more difficult, with much higher stakes, with the debt ceiling and the 2012 budget," said Thomas Mann of the Brookings Institution, who co-wrote a book on Congress, "The Broken Branch."

"I see little sign the tea party members and their allies will lower their demands or embrace a pragmatic strategy," Mann said. "Boehner will have a hard time duplicating this success, especially if Obama is more forceful in filling the vacuum on the Democratic side of the debate."

Obama's re-election chances will depend partly on his ability to resolve these issues ahead. With some skill and luck, he may emerge either as a pragmatic problem-solver or the man who took reasonable stands against an out-of-the-mainstream GOP that forced a government shutdown or debt default.

In a statement shortly after the budget deal late Friday, Obama said some cuts will be painful and he acknowledged, "I would not have made these cuts in better circumstances."

But the president said the agreement protected "those investments that will help America compete for new jobs," including education, clean energy and medical research.

The budget negotiations are difficult because voters sent contradictory messages last fall.

They want Congress to stop the partisan bickering and solve the nation's big problems, including the deficit. Many voters, especially in elections where Republicans ousted House Democrats, also said they are sick of wishy-washy lawmakers who compromise on major issues.

Anyone who missed their warning had only to look at former Sen. Bob Bennett, R-Utah. A solid conservative, he nonetheless was denied his party's nomination by GOP activists angry that he cooperated with Democrats on a few issues.

Boehner, a skilled legislator, spent weeks talking with House conservatives who insisted on $61 billion in current-year spending cuts. That was the pro-rated remainder of conservatives' campaign pledge to cut $100 billion in the 2011 budget year, now half over.

Democrats complained bitterly about the first $10 billion in cuts, but eventually said they could not go above $33 billion. The final deal calls for $38.5 billion in cuts.

Boehner and his lieutenants repeatedly told the adamant budget-cutters, some of them new to public office, that they were getting a good deal. A short time ago, he told them, Democrats would not have considered anything approaching $40 billion. Take your victory and get ready for the next fight, he urged them.

The main price? Surrendering, for now at least, Republican efforts to end federal support for Planned Parenthood and to bar the government from regulating greenhouse gases.

Boehner persuaded enough Republicans to go along. Soon the country will see if he can repeat the feat with social conservatives who think it's now their turn to prevail, and with anti-spending advocates who viewed last week as an appetizer for an upcoming feast on federal programs and costs.

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EDITOR'S NOTE – Charles Babington covers Congress and politics for The Associated Press

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12:12 PM on 04/12/2011
not the intellectually challenged, not the uninformed, not the credulous, but those in charge who know better and don't care. . .

So much of what we see is showing
The ranks of the unjust are growing;

Always wondering, never knowing---
If there's a Hell, I know who's going. . .

Elizabeth Gerteiny
author of The President of War
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07:16 AM on 04/11/2011
Let's see if Obama and the Democrat Party learn from how they got played. Put a couple of non-critical riders on PP and NPR on the table, and watch the Dems jump and offer more cuts. What's amazing is that this is exactly what the Tea Party leaders said they would do ahead of time.
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09:10 PM on 04/10/2011
"Emboldened by last fall's election victories, fiscal conservatives have changed the debate in Washington. The question no longer is whether to cut spending, but how deeply..."
The fallacy rests with the belief that fiscal conservatives changed the debate. Social reconstructionists posing as fiscal conservatives changed the debate. Unfortunatel they and their agenda was not outed until the 11th hour - and then it was to late.
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Time's a-wastin'!
04:28 PM on 04/10/2011
Man, this merger has been a nightmare so far...dialogue is in the gutter.
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citizen of the universe
Look! A Shepards Beak Whale
04:25 PM on 04/10/2011
Democrats seem to save Republicans from themselves. Republicans think running the country is a game and Democrats don't. I wonder how long the media is going to indulge this type of behavior with articles and/or headlines like the above?
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Flower Power Forever
03:43 PM on 04/10/2011
What makes me more sick about what Congress is or isn't doing versus what it should be doing, is recovering all the money that has been extorted from every American taxpayer by all the massive criminal racketeering that Congress is culpable of as an accessory to Wall Street fraud.

The fact that the American people are allowing these racketeers to do business in America with our(my) money; and they do it with impunity knowing Americans don't have the backbone anymore like previous generations who would of never tolerated 1/10 of 1 % of what we tolerate from them today.

We know these are criminals of the worst kind causing all manner of inhumane conduct against not only Americans but untold people from all over the world.

Just because they wear pant suits, suits, white shirts & ties does not make them any less of an outlaw; in fact in many cases far worse than some criminals we have put to the chopping clock.

What the Republicans have been doing in our name& with our money for at least a quarter of a century is nothing less than a usurping of our US Constitution and some of the worst War Crimes & Crimes against Humanity in mans history.
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Flower Power Forever
03:24 PM on 04/10/2011
Part 5

When there is a loss in the system of capital accumulation, the Capitalist is protected to the degree it can be, by a subservient Congress, evidenced by the first no vote for $700 Billion TARP when House Rep phone banks, Emails & letters running 100 calls to 1 against TARP on Sept. 29, only to have Treasury Secy, Paulson himself a former Goldman Sachs(GS) CEO on Wall Street, stormed up the Capital steps to hold a meeting with House leaders for another vote essentially telling them, if Wall Street Banks, particularly GS don't get this money martial law will be declared because they "will bring this nation’s economy crashing down".

Had I been the Speaker & a member of the Executive came over to extort the Congress of the United States( American people), the Sergeant of Arms of the House would of cuffed Paulson, & charged with Treason for starters.

What did happen?

The House voted again & gave Paulson what he demanded GS & Wall Street their $700 big ones that aside from all the other deficits Bush ran up in the trillions of dollars to fund 2 unlawful wars

Whenever a ton of money lost in the conveyor belt of circulated fiat among the world’s population who use this corruptible machinery to meet mans essential needs, there is always going to be a group of people who will carry the water for them.

You don’t need more evidence of what's happening , i's all laid out
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Flower Power Forever
03:18 PM on 04/10/2011
Part.4

It’s noteworthy in the sense that here we are again revisiting short memories during this recent assault on the lower half of the income bracket in America to maintain Capitalists interest given the core platform of Republican doctrine their obsession to reducing the size of government, where Stockman noted, “the Reagan revolution was a failure”.

This is not my judgment but that of Reagan’s budget director, Stockman’s.

Reagonomics in this country became the jumping off point where record income inequality skyrocketed, where today there are millions of more Americans who have slipped down into the poverty index in our history.

It was Reagan & Congressional Republicans conducting a legislative assault that gave the Capitalist more control over the distribution & therefore giving them a greater share of the surplus labor profit causing the middle-class working American need to use credit markets as a result of the corresponding level of purchasing power they once had prior to 1980.

Given the pathological nature in our society of material wealth, the Capitalist Class made sure that the enormous value of surplus labor profit that comes from Capitalism through hard working middle-class Americans would come to them.
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R2D2-51
Flower Power Forever
03:16 PM on 04/10/2011
Part 3.
The center-piece in my assessment of looking at the evolving strategic doctrine of the Republican Party on behalf of the Capitalist Class is clearly designed to destroy all of the progress that has been made in the name of human dignity for the working class people of this nation where the gauntlet was thrown down by President Reagan during the 1980’s that came to be known metaphorically as “Voodoo Reaganomics”.
My extended family has come to know Voodoo Reaganomics quite well as it ushered in a new paradigm shift of Capitalism ideology believing the better side of humanity will prevail with the Capitalist Class if we let them have greater control and a greater percentage of what comes from the commodity of surplus labor profit, particularly when those who labor become more creative, innovative, and productive in what they do to bring greater value to the commodity at the marketplace of ideas, services & products.

If what David Stockman’s recent statement is any clue to it’s success, in his book “The Triumph of Politics: Why the Reagan Revolution Failed” Stockman places the lion’s share of the blame on congressional Republicans, who never went along with efforts to cut government spending. That meant — given the tax cuts — that deficits exploded.
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R2D2-51
Flower Power Forever
03:11 PM on 04/10/2011
Part 2.

Because Congress controls the purse strings of 300+ million people they are the institution the Capitalist Class uses to make sure their wealth is kept intact, and to the extent any money is lost in the system when a crisis in Capitalism arises as did in 2008 & revenues for Federal & State budgets are effected, it is always the proletariat class who can least afford it, yet fall victim to the Capitalist Class to foot the bill.

If for no other reason than the Capitalist Class have the wealth, power & influence which I witnessed over time escalate, after be born not long after WW II that sent alarm bells going whacko by reminiscence of such a recent memory of what occurred in Europe, circa 1933-45 where their accumulated wealth now commands 65% of the worlds income..

To possess that much wealth at your finger-tips is more than sufficient to meet the needs of political & social persuasion using “Manufactured Consent” to manipulate mediums to meet their Capital interests, & protecting those interests of global hegemony by using the institutions, (Congress) in this case, that govern our society to stick it to the lower classes to foot the bill.

This systematic control of our institutional arrangements has over time been co-opted to convert our democracy into a system of an “inverted totalitarian state” for which the legislated “Patriot Act” & police state apparatus will all but ensure compliance to it.
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03:10 PM on 04/10/2011
Part 1.
It's actually quite simple.

This is a typical symptom found as a by-product of class struggle, "the have's versus the have not's" if you like, whenever Capitalism runs into barrier points to capital accumulation for the Capitalist Class and huge sums of money is lost in the system.
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02:09 PM on 04/10/2011
Only Obama would make a total capitulation to Rupub demands appear as some sort of compromise. A compromise is a give and take. Repubs gave up nothing. Obama did all the giving. The only question was how much.

WEAK... WEAK... WEAK...

If Obama is the protector of the Middle Class, we are doomed.
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citizen of the universe
Look! A Shepards Beak Whale
04:35 PM on 04/10/2011
Obama shouldn't have had to be in the room. House Republicans and Senate Democrats should have been able to come to an agreement over the budget, not his scorched earth, tit for tat politics that is being played by both parties. Once again, Obama is involved in a situation that is not part of his job description and gets the blame for his parties failure by people like you.
04:54 PM on 04/10/2011
Stop making excues for Obama. He asked for this job.
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12:26 PM on 04/10/2011
There was NO victory as the Tea Party tweeted: BOEHNER SOLD US OUT! They believe They have the power to FIRE him! how is that a Win? The tea party idea of a win sure is different than what the republicans think is a win. How is it a win when u fracture your party an make a crack big enough to drive through? It seems to me sense Obama knocked them down from getting 100billion as they asked to 35.8 billilon, they sure didn't win much! Also knocked off all the Riders he found important to keep---------How is any of this a win for the Republican? They sure have a strange idea of what a win is, don't they? It was Obama standing over Reid/Boehner with a Ball bat to get them to do their blasted job!
01:56 PM on 04/10/2011
You are crazy. The Repubs got everything they originally asked for. They only wanted more after the fact because they know Obama is such a weak negotiator.
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HGfromOmaha
A hungry, free man not a well-fed slave
05:08 PM on 04/11/2011
That's exactly what I'm trying to understand. A win? Are you kidding? What is this? A game of freakin "H-O-R-S-E"?

I can't understand all of the RepubliKLANS running around and hollering that they won, when they wanted $100 billion and got $35.8. Ummmmm.....what happened to the other $65.8 billion? Oh wow...what an "impressive" win.

I guess when your standards are so low, you have to take whatever you can. In the world of an ant, a paper clip is a huge thing.....