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Egyptian Army's Protest Raid Flares Anger

Egypt Protests

By MAGGIE MICHAEL   04/ 9/11 11:35 AM ET   AP

CAIRO -- Demonstrators burned cars and barricaded themselves with barbed wire in Cairo's central Tahrir Square, demanding the resignation of the military's chief Saturday hours after troops violently dispersed a protest there, killing at least one and injuring 71.

In the pre-dawn raid on the square, hundreds of soldiers beat protesters with clubs and fired into the air in the square, highlighting the rising tensions between protesters and the military leaders whom they praised in Tahrir two months ago when President Hosni Mubarak fell from power.

Several thousand protesters, some armed with sticks and other makeshift weapons, had moved back into the square by Saturday afternoon. They vowed not to leave until the defense minister, Field Marshal Mohammed Hussein Tantawi, resigns. Tantawi, a Mubarak appointee, leads the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces, which rules Egypt now and is made up of the military's top generals.

The confrontation could mark a key juncture in Egypt's upheaval. For weeks, protest leaders have been critical of the military's handling of the post-Mubarak transition and sought to pressure it to change, but both sides also worked to stay on good terms. Now the overnight clashes resembled the ugliest moments of the 18-day protest movement against Mubarak – with authorities cracking down violence and protesters chanting for the leader's removal.

Soldiers backed with a line of armored vehicles swept into the square around 3 a.m., firing continual barrages into the air with automatic weapons to intimidate protesters camped out in the center of Tahrir. The troops waded into the tent camp, where protesters had formed a human cordon to protect several army officers who had joined their demonstration in defiance of their superiors.

Witnesses reported two killed. Ali Mustafa, a car mechanic who was guarding the "free soldiers" tent, said he saw an attacking soldier stab one of the officers to death with his bayonet. He pointed to a section of pavement stained with blood under a small pile of garbage and food remains.

Another protester was shot dead, said Ahmed Gamal, who was there overnight and said he helped carry away the body. He added that he saw at least two others severely injured by live ammunition. The deaths could not be confirmed.

The Health Ministry issued a statement saying only one person was killed and 71 wounded, some of them with gunshot wounds, including three in critical condition.

Witnesses said the troops beat protesters with batons, fists and kicks and dragged an unknown number of protesters away and threw them into police trucks. Near the famed Egyptian Museum, which overlooks the square, protesters trying to flee were blocked by soldiers, who hit them and knocked them. "I saw them detain a bunch at the museum. They were beating some pretty badly," said one protester, Loai Nagati.

The U.S. State Department called reports that excessive force was used in the square "disturbing" and urged the military to investigate. "People everywhere, including in Egypt, must have the universal rights of assembly and protest," it said in a statement.

As the sun came up Saturday morning, black smoke rose as protesters set fire to three vehicles in the square, including two troop carriers. The square was filled with shattered glass, stones and debris in a scene reminiscent of the protests that brought down Mubarak on Jan. 11. The glass storefront of a KFC on the square was also smashed.

"We are staging a sit-in until the field marshal is prosecuted," said Anas Esmat, a 22-year-old university student in Tahrir as protesters dragged debris and barbed wire to seal off the streets leading into the square.

"The people want the fall of the field marshal," chanted protesters, in a variation on the chant that has become famous in protests across the Middle East. "Tantawi is Mubarak and Mubarak is Tantawi," went another chant.

One of the "free soldiers" who were inside the tent cordoned by the protesters read a statement that was also posted on the officers' Facebook page. He did not identify himself but said that his group decided to stay with the protesters at Tahrir until the Supreme Council is dissolved, its members are prosecuted and Tantawi is sacked.

They also demand the creation of a new presidential council to lead the country, trials for those behind the killings of protesters since Jan. 25 uprising, and speeding up prosecution of "heads of the corruption starting with the ousted president Hosni Mubarak and his family."

The military blamed "outlaws" for rioting and violating the country's 2 a.m. to 5 a.m. curfew.

"The armed forces stress that they will not tolerate any acts of rioting or any act that harms the interest of the country and the people," it said. The military's statement, issued before the Health Ministry's, said there had been no arrests or casualties in the raid.

Some backers of the protest movement on Saturday appeared to be trying to pull both sides back from the confrontation.

Democracy advocate Mohammed ElBaradei, whose supporters were among those who organized the anti-Mubarak wave of protests, said in a Twitter message, "enduring confidence between the people and the army is a red line which we have to preserve for the sake of the nation. Dialogue is the only alternative."

But he voiced demands similar to those of the Tahrir protesters and called for a "quick response to the demands of the revolution."

The fundamentalist Muslim Brotherhood, as well, condemned any effort to divide the people and the army, calling them "one hand." But it noted that "there are many people's demands that have not been met until now."

The confrontation was a sharp contrast to the warmth protesters expressed toward the military during and immediately following the 18-day wave of mass demonstrations that led to Mubarak's ouster. Many praised the military for refusing to fire on protesters, and welcomed the army's move to step in to rule.

But tensions have since grown. Reports have emerged of some protesters arrested and tortured by the military in past weeks. Many have complained that the military's handling of the transition to democracy has been too secretive, ignoring some demands, and too fast.

In particular, anger has also grown over the failure so far to prosecute Mubarak and his family over rampant corruption during their rule. Prosecutors have put on trial or started investigations against a string of former senior figures from Mubarak's regime on allegations of corruption, exploiting their positions to amass personal fortunes and other crimes.

But so far, there has been no move against Mubarak or his son Gamal, who had been widely seen as his choice as successor. Since his ouster, Mubarak and his family have been under house arrest at a presidential palace in the Red Sea resort of Sharm el-Sheikh, their assets frozen.

The overnight clashes came hours after tens of thousands massed in Tahrir Square on Friday in one of the biggest protests in weeks, demanding that the military prosecute Mubarak and his family. Many protesters accused the miiltary leadership of protecting Mubarak, a former military man himself. More than in previous protests, chants and banners Friday directly criticized the Supreme Council and Tantawi, a former Mubarak loyalist.

Frictions with the military began in the evening Friday. After nightfall, military police tried several times to move in and detain the officers who had joined the demonstration, but protesters pushed them back. At one point, protesters pushed and shoved an army general, tearing his cap from his head.

After the attack in the early hours of the morning, the scene was chaotic. Families who had camped out in the protest tent searched for children who got lost in the mayhem. Outside, protesters scuffled with soldiers on side streets, chanting, "Field Marshal, tell your soldiers, we aren't leaving."

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AP correspondent Sarah El Deeb contributed to this report.

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12:44 PM on 04/21/2011
Prt 6 of 6 by Neil

If you decide not to publish my account of the seige in Tharir Square in insatallments as comments, then perhaps you will consider publishing it as an article, and I will expand it. I can write verry well and there is more to include as well as photgrpahs.
What do you say?
I can be reached on neilpollick@gmail.com
I am a pretty astute observer of events here in Egypt.
P.S. no one can predict how the revolution will progress!
12:40 PM on 04/21/2011
Pert 5 of 6, actually the last part and there is no part 6

In the evening a new people-carrier style vehicle turned up to sell calendars of the army out of the back, without much success, and an even more incongruous trader set up on another traffic island selling ethnic carvings, presumably to signify business as usual. Harmless Egyptian day trippers, coming to see the famous squares, approached the soldiers on the central isle to make cheerful conversation, one I even witnessed forcing his baby on an impatient Special Forces soldier for a photo.
But the hired flag-wavers and mercenary thugs who lingered there for a few days had none of the conviction or heart of the real protesters and the staged rallies of support for the army, and brief bursts of sloganizing, were very unconvincing indeed. And on the edge of the square, in the security of the half-light, many solitary Egyptians looked anxiously on in silence, perhaps wondering what it all meant, but too afraid to express their doubts anymore, among the mute sounds of everyday life, where it was impossible to know who shared your beliefs and who would attack you for them.
12:39 PM on 04/21/2011
Part 4 of 6 by Neil

That night the army planted a pretty sickening banner proclaiming the "people and the army are one" on the large central circular traffic island that had been the camp of the protesters. the makeshift banner strung between 2 streetlights mad do until the next day more banners appeared, this time firmly mounted on stakes driven into the ground, announcing that "the people and the army celebrate the martyrs of the revolution together", banners around the edge of the central isle to claim it more firmly for the army. During the day civilian’s turned up with A4 photocopied sheets of the army leader Tantawi which they taped to the laminated banners, as an afterthought, presumably because Tantawi himself, or his agents, felt he wasn't sufficiently represented in the original "branding".
Throughout the next 2 days the army beautified the square to expunge the protesters completely, they planted the central circle with grass and flowers with the help of civilian volunteers, some more friendly than others - any blood on the surface of the soil was ploughed into the ground. Around the edge of the square, army workmen repaved the worst areas and even touched up the green paint on the railings in the early sunshine.
12:38 PM on 04/21/2011
Part 3 of 6 by Neil

Until Tuesday night the square remained closed and people came there at all times of the day to discuss the future the share their hopes and dreams. I visited many times and I never felt threatened or even unwelcome. For me it was the kernel of the free state of Egypt yet to expand, a precursor to the camaraderie, freedom of expression and shared civic responsibility that may yet mark this country.
But on Tuesday evening, at about 6-30pm, army agents dressed as civilians slipped into the square and removed the barricades of girders and barbed wire (which were not manned, and never had been) very smartly and 20 minutes later the regular army streamed in, accompanied by the black flack jacketed special forces. They arrested more than 70 protesters, and dispersed the rest with batons and Tasers. And, as always, when the army moves in, their attendant civilian thugs moved in too (the army protects them from the wrath of the ordinary people). The atmosphere in the square changed completely, to one of suspicion and menace. It wasn't safe anymore to take photographs or even to speak English out loud. (I never had any problem taking photographs of the real revolutionaries, they have always wanted the world to see what is going on, it is the paid agents of the old regime, the lingering secret police and the army who have attacked the press and harassed foreigners)
12:37 PM on 04/21/2011
Part 2 of 6 by Neil

The army never came that night, though there was a report of 200 soldiers waiting nearby at 4am that was very frightening, (2 separate witnesses who had wandered out of the square to see what was happening around us testified to seeing the soldiers nearby loading live rounds). Later we heard that 10 army vehicles had been seen leaving the area and we began to relax (earlier on, reports on Twitter told us that the army had made repeated threats to clear the square using "all means at their disposal").
An hour later, as the threat receded, in the early hours of Sunday morning, the main body of the protesters, which didn't include foreign sympathisers such as me, held a meeting to decide whether or not to remove the barricades and allow the square to return to normal at daybreak. A few of the more well-off, better educated Egyptians tried to persuade the protesters to open the square in order to gain public sympathy (thinking that the closure of the square and the resulting disruption to local commerce, would enable the media to vilify the protesters) but the protesters didn't listen to them (and indeed it is their great strength that they do not think strategically but always remain to express genuine outrage). They were so resolute at that time that they decided to leave the barricades where they were and to stay put.
12:36 PM on 04/21/2011
Part 1 of 6 by Neil

I was in Tahrir Square all night for the night AFTER the killing on Friday.
I went because I felt the need to support those brave people after what happened.

I heard that on Friday the army were firing in the streets too, around the square. These were Special Forces soldiers, known by the Egyptian people for having no feeling or connection with the people, the kind of soldiers who ARE willing to kill civilians. And on Friday night the army fired directly into the protesters and not just in the air, for your information. A medical student I met on Saturday, who was manage the "hospital", a small area cordoned off near the KFC, told me that 8 people had died on Friday night. A Spanish journalist in a hotel near the square said the shooting went on for hours as the army chased people down the side streets "the army went crazy" she said.

It's pretty much unheard of for Egyptian protesters to carry weapons, though they have reached for them when under direct attack, during the high days of the revolution it was rocks made of broken paving. Most definitely the square was NOT populated by protesters carrying makeshift weapons at all on Saturday. And at night, as we waited for the widely anticipated army attack, I saw only one protester, from maybe a thousand with any kind of weapon, makeshift or otherwise ( a blue metal pipe 10 inches long).
01:23 PM on 04/11/2011
"As the sun came up Saturday morning, black smoke rose as protesters set fire to three vehicles in the square, including two troop carriers."

This is not how one conducts a non-violent protest.
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01:47 AM on 04/10/2011
My Friends this is not the blood but for some it was the Juice of democracy once Israel was exponent of getting all Arab countries converted to Democracy for it permanent security.

All on a sudden when Al Jazeera started airing the conversion game to democracy for Israeli's permanent security, Egypt's tyrant ruler fell flat to the horror and pain of Israel.

Immediately Israel's PM after the tragic downfall of Mubarak regime commented he preferred Arab tyrant regime of tyrants than Arab Democratic regimes.

What a travesty of Israel with the lives of Arabs. Now a big "But" and a big "If" appeared in the horizon of Mid-East the permanent Super Powers of the world both well armed. May not be as well armed as the lone Super and its allies but sufficiently to give a fight.

The WMDs Israel secretly holds to scare the Arabs would be sufficient to tear open and devastate the entire Mid-East along with Israel if war breaks out.

The Generals of Egypt must forget the past when they considered the compatriots as their slaves. Now the same are their masters, to do any wrong with them would be simply stupidity.

The Protesters should be ready to face a brutal martial law unbelievably. Get prepared straight away wasting time would be fatal. Political leaders should tie up all knots now. These Generals are Israeli stooges, make no mistake.
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03:59 PM on 04/10/2011
US and Israel could allow democracy in Egypt only so far.

Egypt is luckier than Bahrain. In Bahrain occupation forces are leveling mosques that were turned into hospitals. The main hospital of Bahrain has turned to a slaughter house where doctors and nurses who protest against military violence are beaten and arrested.

"Bahraini forces raze 5 mosques"

http://presstv.com/detail/174083.html

Western media are totally silent about Bahrain. Egyptian should be at least happy that some of their sacrifices are mentioned in western media.

If Egypt become independent from West, the rest of Arab world will follow.

When Egyptian realize that independence is the first step toward homegrown democracy, they will get rid of US puppets and maybe then Americans can learn a lesson from Egyptian that without independence from AIPAC and ADL, there will be no real democracy in US.
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02:18 AM on 04/11/2011
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FACTISFACT has gone through your comment and he has words of appreciation on what you have expressed. You are right but may be you know that even US is fed up with anti state activities of AIPAC and ADL but for the Lawmakers which is taking time. That too the Americans are confronting slowly as the assassin and his followers are very active.

However, thank you very much for your sweet and nice decision to extend your hand of friendship towards me. On behalf of me and on behalf of all my friends I welcome you to my decent friend 's circle. Hope you will enjoy your entire stay with us. Make yourself comfortable, we will talk later on.

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12:11 AM on 04/10/2011
The guy in the picture looks like his blood was painted on. Where are the lacerations?
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12:05 AM on 04/10/2011
Ironic that at this time of year a people in Egypt would rise up against an oppresive regime and seek freedom.
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01:14 AM on 04/10/2011
Dayenu
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01:32 PM on 04/10/2011
Shalom v'shalom.
11:34 PM on 04/09/2011
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
01:27 PM on 04/11/2011
Not necessarily. Don't go looking for quick solutions. Especially if the protestors are allowing a violent faction to co-opt their agenda. You can't expect the military to stand back while property is destroyed.
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11:28 PM on 04/09/2011
What is the purpose of showing the picture of a guy who does not know how to properly apply his make up?
10:58 PM on 04/09/2011
Was he in a ketchup eating contest? I see no wounds just smudge marks.
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10:52 PM on 04/09/2011
The reports of the demise of dictatorship have been vastly exaggerated.
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10:39 PM on 04/09/2011
There is a general failure to recognize just how bad things were for the majorities of the populations of all of these countries in turmoil long before any of this happened, and that a very big proximate cause is the huge spike in the prices of food and energy (which translates into everything). For that, you can thank Ben Bernanke and US policy generally, which, having savaged the global economy in the financial crisis, currently is specifically aimed at draining wealth from the rest of the world to prop up badly damaged developed world economies, and from weakest to strongest within the West (the same process as domestically, wherein Wall Street thrives while Main Street goes belly up). So not matter WHAT happens on the democracy front, enormous pressure and volatility is absolutely assured if the current version of the historic course is maintained.

This simply cannot be handled as a series or collection of "one-offs", in essence temporizing via what amounts to a policy of permanent "crisis management" with all its attending bullsh**. Neither the US nor anyone else can fight a global war in order to force the adoption of the sorts of post-war economic and security and geopolitical instruments that served just barely well enough to keep most of us alive, and the West wealthy for the last 50 years.

The entire Anglo/American system is broken. The Empire either ends as a positive choice, or it ends in catastrophe.
01:29 PM on 04/11/2011
Valid points. I am hoping the Egyptians will come up with a better model than we currently have.