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Paul Ryan's Medicare Plan Worries Local Voters

Paul Ryan Medicare Plan

DINESH RAMDE   04/ 9/11 03:46 PM ET   AP

JANESVILLE, Wis. — Brian Krutsch has been long one of many automatic votes here for Rep. Paul Ryan. The unemployed warehouse manager, along with a solid majority of other Janesville voters, has helped elect Ryan seven times and watched with pride as he became one of Congress' leading authorities on the federal budget. But this week, admiration has been tinged with apprehension as one of Ryan's signature ideas – ending Medicare's status as a full, guaranteed benefit for senior citizens – suddenly took a step toward reality.

"I think that's one of the things they should probably leave alone – you know – unless it's absolutely necessary," Krutsch said as he took a break from reviewing job openings at the Rock County Job Center. "Old people need help with medical bills. There's too many people under-insured right now – especially people like myself right now who don't have insurance."

Changing Medicare has become a hot topic around town, and the qualms underscore why many officeholders are wary of talking about it.

No one in Janesville can be surprised by Ryan's ideas for reining in government spending. The cerebral, soft-spoken congressman has been explaining and diagramming his proposals at community meetings for years. But this week House Republicans gave Ryan's plan a high-profile show of support in a televised press conference, ensuring that it will be a key issue in the 2012 election even if the measure goes no further in Congress this year.

Now, Ryan's fix for Medicare, as well as Medicaid, has gotten more personal for hometown friends and neighbors who may be thinking as much about their own retirement or medical expenses as about the size of the federal deficit. Under Ryan's plan, the government would no longer cover seniors' health expenses as Medicare has since the 1960s. Instead, it would provide a certain amount of money to health insurers, with the exact coverage not locked in.

His plan is dubbed the "Path to Prosperity." In Janesville, there's some anxiety.

Howard Gage, a 74-year-old Medicare recipient who owns a three-person video-production company, said he has voted for Ryan in all seven races, still supports the congressman and likes him as a person. But, he added, it's hard to accept that fixing the budget should mean that his family wouldn't receive the same Medicare benefits that he relies on.

"It bothers me that my kids or grandchildren might be affected by whatever has to be done" to curb spending, he said.

Like others in Janesville, he's worried about financial security. Janesville, a town of 61,000 about 40 miles southeast of Madison, is struggling with one of the worst unemployment rates in the state. In February its unemployment rate was 11.2 percent, significantly higher than the state average of 7.4 percent.

Ryan's political stock in town soared as he and other Wisconsin politicians worked – ultimately in vain – to prevent General Motors Corp. from shuttering its local SUV plant in 2009 and cutting more than 1,200 jobs.

The 41-year-old Ryan now chairs the House Budget Committee and is a member of the powerful House Ways and Means Committee. But a lot of people still think of him as one of the town's two famous politicians. The other is former Sen. Russ Feingold, who served three terms but lost his re-election bid in November.

Tom McDonald, a 30-year-old personal-injury attorney whose walk to work takes him past Ryan's home, gives the congressman credit for taking on a very tough problem.

He said he, too, has concerns about Medicare's costs, but he was more concerned that the plan wouldn't address the greater health issue – out-of-control expenses.

"Costs are a major problem," McDonald said. "If the government gives vouchers but does nothing about the costs, who knows how high they'll go? You could end up with vouchers that don't cover the expenses."

Char Christensen, a retired social worker, said she wonders what happened to the congressman who once seemed to vote with his heart. She said she fears he has strayed from his small-town roots and become part of a partisan machine.

"Ryan used to be for the people and now he's for himself," said Christensen, 63, who doesn't plan to vote for Ryan again. "That's not what public service is supposed to be."

After Ryan's plan was formally unveiled on Capitol Hill this week, most Republican presidential hopefuls avoided addressing its specifics. It could rile a pivotal constituency, millions of senior citizens who depend on the government-run health care programs, even though those over 55 would stay in the old Medicare plan. Democrats underscored that they will make the Medicare plan an issue in 2012, and the candidates will be pressed to take a position as the election draws closer.

Greg Tschudy, who was laid off from his job as an assembly worker 18 months ago, said he was confident that Ryan was committed to doing the right thing. Ryan has said his plan will save Medicare and Medicaid by making them solvent for future generations.

"Everybody's worried about the future, and there are no easy answers," said Tschudy, 31, as he scoured employment listings at a job center. "Ryan's job is to help people take care of their financial needs, and I'm just kind of watching to see how this develops."

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Dinesh Ramde can be reached at dramde(at)ap.org.

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JANESVILLE, Wis. — Brian Krutsch has been long one of many automatic votes here for Rep. Paul Ryan. The unemployed warehouse manager, along with a solid majority of other Janesville voters, has ...
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09:27 AM on 04/15/2011
I just realized, because I must be slow or something, that Paul Ryan looks like Ryan from The Office.
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06:31 PM on 04/14/2011
Here's a voucher that will cover some portion of the cost of health insurance, Mr. Senior Citizen.

Now if you have the money to top it off, you're getting your choice of insurance with the government subsidizing a healthy chunk.

But if you can't. then you end up with nothing.

No need for a death panel, no insurance, no access to non-emergency care, might as well start putting your affairs in order right away.
01:35 PM on 04/14/2011
Oh what I would do to be able to walk past Ryan's home every day.
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RandyK100
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12:18 PM on 04/14/2011
The repubs really aren't interested in creating JOBS. In fact they would like to see the rate go higher so it would like Obama has failed. When in fact, their trickle down giving tax breaks to the rich failed. This trickle down does not create jobs. It does create though a shift of more wealth to the rich.
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09:18 AM on 04/13/2011
Title: Paul Ryan's Medicare Plan Worries Local Voters

You gave us this monster and you want us to feel sorry for YOU?

In your dreams.
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spytheweb
Black Democrat
08:34 PM on 04/12/2011
This says it all:
"Ryan used to be for the people and now he's for himself," said Christensen, 63, who doesn't plan to vote for Ryan again. "That's not what public service is supposed to be."

"Greg Tschudy, who was laid off from his job as an assembly worker 18 months ago, said he was confident that Ryan was committed to doing the right thing. Ryan has said his plan will save Medicare and Medicaid by making them solvent for future generations.

"Everybody's worried about the future, and there are no easy answers," said Tschudy, 31"

Yes there is a easy answer it's called Single payer! We would not need medicare because in a SP system every US citizen is covered and it would be cheaper for the country. Private insurance would be killed dead thou.
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RandyK100
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12:07 PM on 04/14/2011
repubs would want that to be run by some "to big to fail" private organization where millions could be handed out in bonus for doing a mediocre job.
06:41 PM on 04/12/2011
If the healthcare mandate is unconstitutional so is SOCIAL SECURITY, MEDICARE, AND MEDICAID. let me ask you this, DID ANYONE ASK YOU IF YOU WANTED TO CONTRIBUTE TO ANY OF THOSE PROGRAMS. HELL NO THEY DID NOT. THOSE DEDUCTIONS ARE AUTOMATICALLY TAKEN OUT OF YOUR CHECK - MANDATED PAYMENTS!
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NAMI
The Divine Socialist
11:27 PM on 04/11/2011
Ryan is really presenting a recycled version of the Heritage Foundation dream agenda

TAKE BACK America .....................25 % top tax rate..................PRE NEW DEAL

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED in 2011 during a DEM PRESIDENT Obama

that is CHANGE we did not expect or want.
HISTORY will judge you very badly President OBAMA if you go on like this.
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somewhatodd
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03:20 PM on 04/11/2011
insurances companies would be happy to sign up all the seniors and take the vouchers for most of their premium payments. the seniors will be insured and insurance companies will be happy since they won't have to pay any claims. that will make wall street happy. it's a win-win-win.
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52tucker
Captain of trashpile sleeping.
02:57 PM on 04/11/2011
By concerning local voters I'm assuming they're defining local as the entire United States.
01:18 PM on 04/11/2011
Like some of the people in this article--i.e. the unemployed warehouse worker--please wake up! You are being duped. These Republicans really don't care about you or fixing the budget, but just using the deficit as an excuse to cut things they have always wanted to get rid of...Medicaid, Medcare. This is all just a pretext do to this. They are not working for you lowe/middle class worker, but only for rich corporations who have hijacked the message and air time. If they are so concerned about the budget, then why does GE not pay corporate taxes, why do 2/3s or Wisconsin corporations not pay taxes? Why do the rich have lower taxes than the poor? Why do the poor, working poor and middle class have to take on more and more and corporations and rich people less and less? Wake up people and stop voting against your own interest and for the interest of corporations and rich people. What is your thinking to be doijng this?! It is so depressing that these are the very people that will vote to dismantle their own benefits and lower their own quality of life!
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RandyK100
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12:09 PM on 04/14/2011
voters to the repubs are like what chicken is to KFC.
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jl Walker
LET'S GO
12:18 PM on 04/11/2011
Paul is really not worried about anything but paying back all that money that the big insurance companies spent on his compaign so now they has to pay in back with this plan which I don't even believe that he came up with this...these Republican/teabaggers are Not Smart enough to come up with this stuff so it was the insurance agenda and he is just pushing it though. He probably don't even understand the plan himself. This plan came from the insurance companies.
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devondx
Totally De-regulate all RED states=JUSTICE..
12:05 PM on 04/11/2011
once the GOP masses bought into the lie that the rich create jobs

for us little folks instead of the truth that only market demand creates jobs....

this nation became a lost cause....i'll keep trying,... but i don't see how we

can survive being overtaken by a cult theocracy that is incapable of rational

argument...and only wants for their devine end of times rapture to begin as soon as possible
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Icantbelieveher
I'm for the separation of church and hate!
09:57 PM on 04/11/2011
I'd love to see their faces when they are "left behind!" but I don't plan on being here!  If they read the Bible they are always quoting, they would know that Je sus never championed greed -- just the opposite in fact.  How funny would it really be to see those poor people the republicans created inherit the earth, while those greedy corporate CEOs and republicans end up being destroyed, as Je sus promised to destroy those who destroyed his earth?
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jl Walker
LET'S GO
12:03 PM on 04/11/2011
Its simple the repuclican never intended to help find jobs or correct medicare their intention was to destroy medicare and get rich in the proccess. They simply lied to the american people and use Foxnews to do it! If these people were listen to news from both Democratic and Republican New station, they would have voted for what lines up with their life style and if you are poor you would definitely not voted for getting rid of your medicare.
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RandyK100
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12:13 PM on 04/14/2011
We need to do alot of educating before the next election. It appears ryan may be one of the best teachers we could ever have.
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middleoftheroad53
12:00 PM on 04/11/2011
The unemployed warehouse manager, along with a solid majority of other Janesville voters, has helped elect Ryan seven times....ending Medicare's status as a full, guaranteed benefit for senior citizens – suddenly took a step toward reality.

To All the Republican and Independent Cheerleaders, Voters and Supporters..."Get it Now"? There is a "Class and Culture War" being waged in America. Paul Ryan is on one side....YOU ARE ON THE OTHER!

You get what you VOTE FOR....Vote Democrat next time....for you...for your Children...for the Country!