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Obama Sizes Up Options For Health Care Cuts

Obama Health Care Cuts

RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR   04/11/11 05:53 PM ET   AP

WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama's plans to curb health care costs that drive the deficit would mean less taxpayer money for providers and more costs for beneficiaries as he draws from bipartisan ideas already on the table.

But don't look for his speech Wednesday to endorse a Medicare voucher system or turning Medicaid over to the states, as leading Republicans have proposed.

Conceding the GOP's point that government needs to cut and health care is one of the first places to look, Obama will try to change the direction of a deficit debate that threatens to get away from him. The president is using his speech to lay down broad principles and trace a path that could lead to compromise, but he won't unveil a detailed program.

White House spokesman Jay Carney said Monday that health care savings are essential to control the deficit. The spokesman indicated Obama would build on the work of his debt commission, whose recommendations he initially refrained from endorsing. Carney also praised a small group of senators from both parties, known as the Gang of Six, that is trying to set up a framework for a divided Congress to reach compromise on deficits.

"The president understands very well that health care spending is a major driver of our deficit and debt problem," Carney said. "He believes ... we can achieve those savings in ways that protect the people that these programs are supposed to, and were designed to, support and help."

One proposal in the debt commission's report last year would rework Medicare's deductibles and copayments so that most beneficiaries have to pay a share of their everyday bills – cost shifts that in a few years would add up to more than $100 billion in taxpayer savings. In exchange, Medicare recipients would get better protection against catastrophic costs.

Another called for scaling back the tax deduction for workplace benefits, which many economists say would be like putting the entire health care system on a diet. It's strongly opposed by unions, a major Democratic constituency.

And the wild card: curbs on jury awards in malpractice cases. Democrats and Republicans have been rigidly divided on the issue, an arm-wrestling match between GOP-leaning doctors and trial lawyers who tend to back Democratic candidates. A breakthrough could help in other areas.

Former Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle said "there is virtually no likelihood" Obama will endorse a voucher plan for Medicare or block grants for Medicaid. But medical malpractice is another story. "He has already said he is open to ideas there," said the South Dakota Democrat, an adviser to Democrats on health care.

Obama probably won't drill down to that level of detail on Wednesday. Republicans already laid down their marker.

Later this week, the House will debate a plan by Budget Chairman Paul Ryan, R-Wis., which would fundamentally change government health care programs that touch virtually every family, covering about 100 million Americans.

Instead of Medicare, people now 54 and younger would get a government payment to buy private insurance when they retire. The Medicaid health insurance program for low-income people would be converted into a block grant, allowing each state to design its own program. But the poor would lose the right to coverage under federal law and middle-class retirees might not be able to keep up with future health costs.

Ryan's plan has been praised for its boldness. Even some who vehemently disagree with the specifics have credited the congressman for having the courage to start an adult conversation with the American people about the real costs of their health care programs.

Obama's approach would display another attribute commonly ascribed to adults: caution. A Medicare remake would probably require a mandate from the voters that neither party can claim.

"You don't have to dismantle the program in order to save it," said Rep. Xavier Becerra, D-Calif., a member of the debt commission. But he acknowledged that there would have to be "real cuts that will be painful."

In normal circumstances, the debt commission's ideas would be considered far-reaching. Compared to Ryan's plan, they're incremental. They leave the big health care programs in place, as well as Obama's overhaul, which Republicans would repeal.

Obama is also expected to indicate his support for the efforts of six senators seeking deficit deal. In the group: three conservative Republicans, Saxby Chambliss of Georgia, Tom Coburn of Oklahoma and Mike Crapo of Idaho; two moderate Democrats, Kent Conrad of North Dakota and Mark Warner of Virginia; and a liberal Democrat, Dick Durbin of Illinois.

One of the ideas they are considering would trigger the recommendations of the deficit commission, if Congress doesn't meet certain targets for spending, taxes and deficits.

Until now, the Gang of Six has worked in obscurity on what many consider a thankless task. The presidential seal of approval could improve their chances.

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WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama's plans to curb health care costs that drive the deficit would mean less taxpayer money for providers and more costs for beneficiaries as he draws from bipart...
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05:37 PM on 05/31/2011
There is a very easy way to fix our medicare,medicaid problem,and here it is. We have V.A. hospitals all over our country,funded by our GOV. Just open them up to Medicare,medicaid patceints.forget medicare. put all the medical dollars in one place and make it state of art.class A hospitals. no confusing paperwork. no Rip off DOCTORS that over charge just because we have medicare. we would get our Medicine from the same place free.and it would save trillions on medical.we would be the envy of the world.to give our seniors greatest medical in the world at a fraction of the cost. As long as our Gov.is paying for all the medical for veterans,medicare,medicaid,why not have ONE HOSPITAL? instead the va hospital it could be AMERICAN MEDICAL FACILITY.
06:28 PM on 04/27/2011
This sentence slays me: "Conceding the GOP's point that government needs to cut and health care is one of the first places to look, Obama will try to change the direction of a deficit debate that threatens to get away from him." To me, healthcare is the LAST PLACE TO LOOK to cut spending! I feel strongly that healthcare should be our #1 priority.

Turning Medicaid over to the states would really hose everyone big time, except the rich or the lucky liberal states.

One thing that affected me negatively is that now we cannot purchase OTC items with our flex benny cards. Which is like taxing the middle class, and putting more $$ into the hands of insurance companies. I posted a loophole with this on my blog yesterday:

http://www.mommyneedsvodka.com/2011/04/obamas-healthcare-plan-loophole.html

Hopefully I won't get too much flack for it! :)
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DANIELISTICALL
HISTORY IS BUT A FABLE AGREED UPON,,NAPOLEON
09:46 PM on 04/18/2011
HMO's Are Terrorist Networks It's time we told the truth about America's highly-organized, multi-billion dollar network of medical terrorism, that keeps millions of Americans sick, scared, and on the verge of bankruptcy. Aided and abetted by Republican s our horrific 'pay-or-die' healthcare rationing system needs to called for what it really is.
05:05 AM on 04/13/2011
You hoo. Try single payer. Or Medicare for all. WITH the indispensable power to negotiate prices, like all the other first world democracies do. Like every business in operation throughout the world does with its suppliers.
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thegreenhornet
civil rights lawyer
08:21 PM on 04/12/2011
The solution is obvious. Let individuals opt out of the program. If the opt outs reach a level where insurance companies cannot profitably provide insurance because of the lack of users, create an alternative public option health care for those who did not opt out, only.
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MikeyJaii
Free $$ For Everyone.
08:13 PM on 04/12/2011
Moving my ass to Canada.
05:09 AM on 04/13/2011
The only smart move now. Or at least move a good chunk of your savings there. I think you can do it all online in our connected world.
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06:24 PM on 05/31/2011
Idont see people dying to get in any country but this one. but why?all the freebies we give free med.free school.free,free,free.for everyone except AMERICANS.I cant afford colledge for my kids. but or schools are so full of foreighners,our kids sit in back of the school , in a TRAILER.But we are the ones paying through the nose for these schools with our property tax.I will be in line to get the hell out of here and let them have it. By theway your idea is a great one.
08:02 PM on 04/12/2011
Why do I have the sudden urge to bend over and grab my ankles after reading this article? Oh yeah I know why. I'm one of the "stuck-in-the-middle"Americans who never really receives any benefit from anything the federal goverment does. I make just too much money to get any real government assistance and not enough money to buy it.
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Pembrokelib
04:10 PM on 04/12/2011
The idea that private insurance companies will work is ludicrous. They will take only the healthy and turn down the sick as they have done in the past. How can advocates be so dim witted? Medicaire does need cost cutting and frivolous malpractice must be stopped, but private insurance is a charade and would hurt primarily the middle class as does every idea the GOP has suggested.
05:12 AM on 04/13/2011
So, has the US learned the lesson that they are NOT the alternative because you're disgusted with Obama. Most of the Dem base is.
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Pembrokelib
10:19 AM on 04/13/2011
I am in no way disgusted with Obama. Some compromises are necessary if he wants to be reelected. The alternative is scary.
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thegreenhornet
civil rights lawyer
03:57 PM on 04/12/2011
This is an area in which the republicans have seriously mislead the public -- and one it seems the -- and the democrats. Before I went n Medicare I paid around $9,000 a year in premiums. Those,of course, have gone up since. I now pay $1,900 a year to Medicare and $1,800 a year for supplementl coverage. In addition, I am forced to buy cheap generics and still pay high copays. If there is no cheap generic I cannot use the drug but am forced to use older, cheaper drugs tha are not as good. So STOP saying we are not paying our fair share. I paid not the system for many years and now pay a reduced rate but get reduced service. Many doctors wnt even take medicare patients. Enough! Tax the wealthy. Tax the corporations that make huge profits from our labor and from our pockets?
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ProletarianRenegade
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01:13 PM on 04/12/2011
"The president is using his speech to lay down broad principles and trace a path that could lead to compromise, but he won't unveil a detailed program."

He did the same thing with health care and we got insurance company lobbyists writing the legislation, behind-the-scenes deals to preserve Big Pharma's profits, and Tea Baggers screaming, "get yer govment 0ut ov mah Medikkkare!!" I can't wait to see what happens this time!
11:31 AM on 04/12/2011
To HELP American balance the budget every politician will serve for $1 for the next 5 years, pass a law that NO politician can become a lobbyist for the next ten years after he finishes his term, all politicians must pay for their own health care.
11:29 AM on 04/12/2011
he is playing drop the soap again, with the American public
11:24 AM on 04/12/2011
I am a big supporter of Obama but he needs to get tough and stand for something.
11:31 AM on 04/12/2011
You should stop supporting the guy that consistently throws you under the bus.
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ProletarianRenegade
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01:14 PM on 04/12/2011
"Being thrown under the bus all the time is better than nothing!" says the liberal.
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evekendall
11:12 AM on 04/12/2011
"Obama Sizes Up Options For Health Care Cuts "

Is one of those options a single-payer system? A public option, perhaps?

That's what I thought.
10:35 AM on 04/12/2011
France's health care system is rated #1. Everyone is covered by a single payer government run plan and, if they wish, they can buy additional insurance from private companies.
Works like Medicare. Vermont is on it's way to doing this, MA will follow soon after. and eventually the whole country will adopt this system.
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European1919
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11:19 AM on 04/12/2011
Similar system in Germany. Works a treat. If you earn above a certain amount you can opt out of the system and go private. Very expensive and not really much better.
11:37 AM on 04/12/2011
Well of course - Germans care about their country, which means their conutrymen.
11:32 AM on 04/12/2011
I like your optimism, but unfortunately, I don't share it.