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How Will Potential 2012 GOP Presidential Candidates Respond To The Ryan Budget?

First Posted: 04/13/11 12:45 PM ET Updated: 06/13/11 06:12 AM ET

Paul Ryan Budget 2012
Barbour, Huntsman, Romney and Pawlenty are all at odds over Ryan's budget plan.

WASHINGTON -- The Republican presidential hopefuls differ significantly on whether they’ll offer detailed budget and entitlement reform proposals in the coming months as the campaign heats up. This is a sign that the potential candidates are still grappling with how to adjust to the new political landscape formed by the introduction of Rep. Paul Ryan's (R-Wis.) budget last week.

One top aide to a GOP frontrunner said he expects candidates to release detailed plans, signaling that their campaign has plans to do so.

“I think all the serious 2012 candidates will have their own budget proposals,” said the adviser, who did not want his candidate’s name mentioned to avoid previewing their strategy ahead of time.

But a senior adviser to Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour sounded a completely different note.

"I don’t expect that every campaign is going to be able to match anything approaching the depth that Ryan putting into this," the Barbour adviser said. "I don’t think that’s likely at all.”

“The good thing about what Paul Ryan’s doing is he’s leading. It’s a thoughtful plan,” the adviser continued. “It’s healthy that Republicans are out talking about ways to cut spending and bring the deficit under control. We’re not all going to agree on every detail. That’s OK, but we’ve got this thing moving in the right direction. And that’s what’s important. Obama has the country going in the absolute wrong direction.”

Ex-Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney was more ambivalent when asked about entitlements, according to Politico. “I don’t know,” Romney said when asked whether the country is prepared for extensive changes to Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security during a meeting with potential donors in New York on Tuesday.

Romney Spokesman Eric Fehrnstrom said afterward that the former governor "recognizes that it is absolutely imperative that we take on the rising cost of entitlements," and pointed to a chapter in the politician's book outlining how he proposed to do it.

Within GOP presidential campaigns, there are also signs that the issue of addressing the national debt –- even after Ryan, the House Budget Committee chairman, released a budget plan praised by most conservatives –- will be a source of fierce debate between advisers.

An aide affiliated with another top-tier hopeful, who has not yet declared his candidacy, said that “further discussions about how we will solve the long-term debt crisis is going to play a big role in the campaign. The extent to which candidates offer real, tangible solutions will determine their success.”

But another consultant to this same politician said 2012 candidates “might be forced to” talk about plans for entitlement reform,” but it “won't be by choice.”

“I think they'll run from them like the plague,” the consultant added.

Ryan pushed the issue of budgets and entitlements to the fore last week by proposing a controversial plan to cut $6 trillion in spending over the next decade. He would move Medicare from a defined benefit program to a defined contribution program, and would push Medicaid costs toward the states while giving them more flexibility over how big their programs can be and how they can use federal funds.

Ryan has been credited by conservatives and some moderates for offering a plan, since for years politicians have danced around how to pay for the ballooning cost of government services, which are dear to key constituencies like seniors and the poor. But the plan has also garnered significant criticism from independents and a handful of Republicans, though there is general agreement on the right about how to address the debt problem.

Liberals generally disagree fundamentally with Ryan’s approach, favoring higher taxes on wealthy individuals and corporations as opposed to Ryan’s restructuring of the system. The Congressional Budget Office's analysis of the Ryan plan found that if health care costs continue on their current runaway trajectory, seniors in Medicare would be forced to pay significantly more of their medical bills.

President Obama’s Wednesday speech addressing the budget, entitlements, and the national debt, which has nearly reached the $14.3 trillion limit currently allowed by law, is seen as a response to Ryan’s plan. The Wisconsin Rep. will respond to Obama’s proposals in a forum on Thursday hosted by E21, a conservative economic group based in Washington headed by conservative columnist Bill Kristol and former George W. Bush administration economic adviser Keith Hennessey.

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WASHINGTON -- The Republican presidential hopefuls differ significantly on whether they’ll offer detailed budget and entitlement reform proposals in the coming months as the campaign heats up. This ...
WASHINGTON -- The Republican presidential hopefuls differ significantly on whether they’ll offer detailed budget and entitlement reform proposals in the coming months as the campaign heats up. This ...
 
 
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hawkny
10:08 PM on 04/14/2011
This crap gets boring....Again, every GOP candidate for the presidential nomination is a middle aged white guy.
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Clayton139
GOP-R's Are 4Rich, Corporations NOT People!
09:15 PM on 04/14/2011
Big Lies - from the GOP !
05:12 PM on 04/14/2011
one word laughable.
10:01 AM on 04/14/2011
The game that Republicans are playing is making the Rich look like the villain in America. As the masses suffer the Rich gets Richer is not going to give GOOD RESULTS. Prosperity for some as the only game in town may not work.
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innerpuppie
The truth is an absolute defense...
08:00 AM on 04/14/2011
Those who are serious about running for office, and want to win, should run as fast as they can from the Ryan budget. I'm still stunned by the fact that Ryan and his GOP Congressional buddies think that his budget is a good plan and endorse it. This next election will certainly be interesting.
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rgilley
Question Authority!
07:42 AM on 04/14/2011
Of course republicans running for President are going to claim they are not for Ryan's budget that continues the attack on working class Americans; But when they get elected to office their word is as useless as a bent nail. Walker in WI did not run on busting unions and lowering ALL working class wages and benefits, Kasich in Ohio did not run on union busting and Snyder in Michigan did not tell the voters he would suspend all local election results as though he were some Fascist dictator.
Republicans are the masters of Lies, Misinformation and obstructionism , thats what got them elected in 2010 to the House and thats what got Bush elected twice! And now they are heading back to the staples that got them to make people forget about losing their homes , jobs and life savings..."God, Guns & Gays" and abortion issues. The message "Don't even think about the economy we left you with after 6 out of 8 years in TOTAL control of government."
They left THIS and worse!



• Income and Jobs: Inflation-adjusted incomes fell further under George W. Bush than
under any president since reporting began. Unemployment rose 81 percent.

• Poverty: The poverty rate jumped 17 percent from 2000 to 2008, with over 8 million
more Americans living below the poverty line.


http://www.dlc.org/documents/TheLostDecade.pdf
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dmsdzinr
Progression wit a twist of sarcasm.
08:13 AM on 04/14/2011
Well Said! They're counting on the short term memory of the American People. They always have, do and will. THIS just proves how gullible and ignorant they believe most Americans are. Unfortunately there are plenty of voters who fit their profile to a T.
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nkurland
I'm going to leave this planet alive
02:49 AM on 04/14/2011
From the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities:
"$1.3 trillion in “savings” from the official CBO baseline that comes merely from the fact that the Ryan plan reflects the costs of current policy in Iraq and Afghanistan. The CBO baseline contains a large anomaly related to the costs of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. Following the rules governing budget baselines, CBO’s baseline mechanically assumes that current levels of U.S. operations — and costs — in Iraq and Afghanistan will continue forever rather than phasing down in accordance with current policy. The CBO baseline figures are thus much higher than the costs of current policy. Ryan himself said earlier this year on National Public Radio — in attacking President Obama’s 2012 budget proposal for not doing enough to reduce deficits — that simply showing the costs of current policy in Iraq and Afghanistan produces “phantom savings” from an anomalous baseline, not real deficit reduction"

In other words, the plan facilitates an enormous transfer of wealth upward for savings of $16 billion a year. Medicare drug price negotiation alone saves that much.
saving1939
the right is wrong
01:23 AM on 04/14/2011
An all clown circus: The republican presidential hopefuls.
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Cleo Creech
Atlanta writer, poet, activist.
01:04 AM on 04/14/2011
Here in GA the Repubs threw together a state budget in a few weeks that was heavy on tax breaks, and added lots of new cuts in social programs, and would implement a whole laundry list of fees. They tried to rush it through with little if any discussion until the dems at least had someone crunch the numbers and found out it would actually make the state deficit worse, dramatically increase the tax burden on those making under $250,000 and give huge bonuses to those making more. People caught on, essentially catching a few republicans trying to pull one over, and they got caught withtheir hands in the cookie jar.

The budget bill is now dead for the year, and polling shows that almost no one, even most of the tea baggers don't trust them. The session ran out so the issue is dead for this year. The game plan is now to wait until next year and hope people have a short memory.
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CaliTLC
The GOP is a MORIBUND Party
12:59 AM on 04/14/2011
What? Who could possibly be wary of a budget that will take 70 years to pay off the deficit. Way to go Ryan - 70-year budget man.
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richjustdonothaveenough
To a 3rd world America
12:43 AM on 04/14/2011
If people knew what they were voting for when they voted for Republican, they would not vote Republican.

From an open mike near John Boehner.
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natchez
08:12 AM on 04/14/2011
If voters researched their candidates what policies they stood for, who their backers were and took the time to educate themselves on the issues maybe the republicans wouldn't be able to be so blatantly obvious with their rip-off of the middle class!
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richjustdonothaveenough
To a 3rd world America
09:42 AM on 04/14/2011
You are so right. My perception is that most voters are not well educated and are easily influenced by the negative ads on TV. That's where people like you come in and gently convince your friends and others to not vote against their own best interests. The unions are now doing this in WI and other states.

Have a productive day.
12:41 AM on 04/14/2011
They have nothing else to say so their tactic is: At least we're leading-how do they go home and tell their voters (65 and up) "we want to take away your medicare"? These people actually vote-Look at Michigan ,Snyder had to change his "plot" because his state congressman couldn"t sell his plan to the real voters (65 and up). Love it.
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gevan
big dubya
12:41 AM on 04/14/2011
re: Romney--it's always a good sign when a prospective candidate has the courage to give out a decisive "I don't know".
capn moose
Retired reading ranting
12:25 AM on 04/14/2011
Ryan's budget screws everybody below millionaire status. His "voucher" means most future retirees will see their money deposited directly in unregulated health-insurance companies who will bribe friendly congress-folk to keep the money rolling and allow them to disallow benefits time and again. The top tiers have enough money to buy doctors and drugs, the rest of us get voucher receipts worth less than the paper they are printed on. No wonder the rest of the GOP field is jumpy. Americans can see behind the curtain.
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Lefty08
but I bat the right
12:06 AM on 04/14/2011
I am not surprised they're all backing away from Ryan's budget.
No one likes to step in dog mess.