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First Posted: 04/15/11 08:18 PM ET Updated: 06/15/11 06:12 AM ET

WASHINGTON -- President Barack Obama had a message for Congress Friday: his so-called "czars" aren't going anywhere.

The budget bill that passed Congress Thursday also included a provision to defund a number of White House czars -- the high-level presidential appointees whose ranks have swelled in recent decades as a means of skirting Senate confirmation hearings.

There is a long history of complaints about czars by whichever party does not occupy the White House at the time, but the advisers have become a particular target of the right wing during the Obama administration, and the 11th-hour budget deal eliminated his health care, climate, urban affairs and auto-industry czars.

But on Friday night, Obama declared that he intends to ignore that part of the budget legislation, issuing a relatively rare "signing statement" after he inked the budget deal in which he argued that the legislative effort to eliminate those positions was an unconstitutional infringement on the executive branch.

"The President has well-established authority to supervise and oversee the executive branch, and to obtain advice in furtherance of this supervisory authority," Obama wrote in a message to Congress. "The President also has the prerogative to obtain advice that will assist him in carrying out his constitutional responsibilities, and do so not only from executive branch officials and employees outside the White House, but also from advisers within it.

"Legislative efforts that significantly impede the President's ability to exercise his supervisory and coordinating authorities or to obtain the views of the appropriate senior advisers violate the separation of powers," he added. "Therefore, the executive branch will construe [the law as to] not to abrogate these Presidential prerogatives."

Republicans were not impressed.

"It's not surprising that the White House, having bypassed Congress to empower these 'Czars' is objecting to eliminating them," said Michael Steel, a spokesman for House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio).

Obama also signaled that he thought Congress was treading too close to his authority on foreign policy and national security matters by again barring the use of federal funds to transfer prisoners from the Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, prison for terrorism suspects. But he stopped short of announcing that he would ignore that measure.

"We must have the ability to act swiftly and to have broad flexibility in conducting our negotiations with foreign countries," Obama wrote, adding that his administration already took great pains to keep Congress informed of activities at Gitmo.

He said doing more "would hinder the conduct of delicate negotiations with foreign countries and therefore the effort to conclude detainee transfers in accord with our national security."

This is not the first time the Obama White House has issued signing statements. Aides drafted similar responses when the president signed a military spending bill in January objecting to provisions that limited the executive branch's ability to close Gitmo.

Still, it's worth noting that the use of the tool stands in stark contrast to the position Obama took during the presidential campaign, when he criticized George W. Bush's use of signing statements and went so far as to suggest the practice violated basic constitutional law.

AUDIENCE MEMBER: When Congress offers you a bill, do you promise not to use presidential signings to get your way?

OBAMA: "Yes... This is part of the whole theory of George Bush that he can make laws as he is going along. I disagree with that. I taught the Constitution for 10 years. I believe in the Constitution and I will obey the Constitution of the United States. We are not going to use signing statements as a way of doing an end run around Congress. All right?"


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WASHINGTON -- President Barack Obama had a message for Congress Friday: his so-called "czars" aren't going anywhere. The budget bill that passed Congress Thursday also included a provision to defun...
WASHINGTON -- President Barack Obama had a message for Congress Friday: his so-called "czars" aren't going anywhere. The budget bill that passed Congress Thursday also included a provision to defun...
 
 
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danielboone
02:28 PM on 04/18/2011
Id tell Obama either the Czars go or you go! We can't afford them or you!
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DocSkull
My questions aren't rhetorical.
10:27 AM on 04/19/2011
"Id tell Obama either the Czars go or you go! We can't afford them or you!"

Why not?
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danielboone
05:32 PM on 04/20/2011
Were broke!
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danielboone
05:33 PM on 04/20/2011
We're broke!
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Dangerous Dan
Because I can!
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DocSkull
My questions aren't rhetorical.
11:18 PM on 04/20/2011
"Obama lies!"

A critical difference is that Obama is protecting a long-standing executive power. However, I would agree that his use of the signing statements counters the spirit of his promise, but not the actual words. I also think it is nonsensical to deprive the president of any tool he feels he needs to pull the country out of the Republicans bad governance, poorly run wars, and fouled economy.
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Matt Herren
"Human action is purposeful behavior."
12:29 AM on 04/21/2011
Yeah I mean... why have a Constitution with specifically enumerated powers at all? We should just give the President the power to do whatever he feels is 'necessary' to fix things... he knows best.

Giving one man all the power to do as he likes... that's never been tried before.
absolument
Debate the policy. But first, LEARN the science.
01:35 AM on 04/28/2011
Matt Heren: "You clearly don't know your Constituti­onal policy... Congress is free to hinder all they want... "

Then the Framers intended to give the Senate the power to approve advisers, and to give the House the option to make them volunteer workers? That would not be a system of checks and balances, that would be a guarantee of disorder and disarray.
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Elaine David Lisle
12:22 PM on 04/18/2011
So am I reading this right? The president has been trying toclose Gitmo but the congress wont let him get the paperwork through and then they are blaming him for it still being opened?? That is so "Republican" typical.
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Steve David
10:58 AM on 04/18/2011
The only czars in history I can recall have been linked to monarcharys and dictators, Curious how you don't find them in real democracys.
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justalurker
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06:15 PM on 04/18/2011
Didn't Reagan have the first "czars" (actually just advisors with no decision making power)?
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DocSkull
My questions aren't rhetorical.
10:26 AM on 04/19/2011
US Presidents have used "czars" since the 1930s

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._executive_branch_czars
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Matt Herren
"Human action is purposeful behavior."
01:25 AM on 04/18/2011
He can keep them... they just have to work for free.
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traceymarie
the President is black, deal with it
01:33 AM on 04/18/2011
Now you have a problem with Presidential advisors?
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Matt Herren
"Human action is purposeful behavior."
01:47 AM on 04/18/2011
"Now" I have a problem with the President making up things as he goes... as I always have.

Congress’­s job is to pass legislatio­n. The president can veto it, or he can sign it. But what George Bush has been trying to do as part of his effort to accumulate more power in the presidency­, is he’s been saying ‘Well, I can basically change what Congress passed by attaching a letter saying, I don’t agree with this part, or I don’t agree with that part. I’m going to choose to interpret it this way or that way,’” Obama said.

“That’s not part of his power. But this is part of the whole theory of George Bush that he can make laws as he’s going along. I disagree with that. I taught the Constituti­on for ten years. I believe in the Constituti­on. And I will obey the Constituti­on of the United States. We’re not going to use signing statements as a way of doing an end run around Congress,” Obama said.

The power of the purse has always been with Congress. If they do not fund something, the President has the power to veto that budget... but he cannot arbitrarily decide to spend money on things that have been explicitly defunded by the entity in charge of deciding such matters.
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Matt Herren
"Human action is purposeful behavior."
04:45 PM on 04/18/2011
And in regard to your blathering response about racism which was deleted by a moderator... I'm sorry you didn't bother reading anything I wrote... I thought we could have a civilized discussion about this, but apparently not. Our current President said those things listed above regarding the previous one doing precisely what he wants to do now.

It was wrong then and it's wrong now.
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10:08 PM on 04/17/2011
Interesting certain Obama supporters want to change the subject from campaign promises to the legalities of czars and signing statements. In 2008, he said many times he would end signing statements, Gitmo, FISA Courts, Czars, etc; he would be a different kind of president and so on. Now did he allow himself a technical escape clause in a parsed statement that no one remembers? Probably but it's meaningless to practically everyone but the most cynical.
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justalurker
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11:43 PM on 04/17/2011
The campaign promise was to use signing statements responsibly and not abuse them as Bush did. He kept it.

"We are not going to use signing statements as a way of doing an end run around Congress." - Obama

Note he never said he wouldn't use them. He said they would not be used as an "end run". In fact he did say he would use them to uphold the constitution. The constitution separates the executive, legislative and judicial branches as a check and balance of power. The legislative branch has no constitutional right to make executive branch staff choices through funding or otherwise.

This is all OLD news.

From March, 2009:
Obama orders Bush signing statements review - Politics - White House - msnbc.com
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29600234/ns/politics-white_house/

Excerpt:
"Obama as a candidate criticized Bush's use of signing statements , but Obama as a candidate never said he would completely eschew the centuries' old tradition.

Bush used his statements to circumvent Congress' ban on torture and prohibitions against using federal tax dollars to build a permanent military base in Iraq."
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justalurker
edited my micro-bio
06:05 PM on 04/18/2011
Obama never said he would end signing statements, he said he wouldn't abuse them as bush famously did. Don't go by what fox news says about out of context quotes.
07:29 PM on 04/17/2011
Okay, here's what I don't get. FDR was not the most intelligent man on the block, but he was praised for both his leadership and his knack for surrounding himself with intelligent people in accordance with his promise for "bold, persistent experimentation." If he was praised for surrounding himself what now would be lbaled "czars", why now has opinion shifted against them? I may be alone on this one, but I believe it is wise for the POTUS to surround himself with intelligence that he may make better decisions in the future.
07:33 PM on 04/17/2011
A good part of FDR's "czars" ("brain trust" as they were called then) were actually cabinet appointees, or at least positions requiring confirmation. There were a few exceptions like Harry Hopkins, but nothing like now. The same would go for JFK's "whiz kids."
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Matt Herren
"Human action is purposeful behavior."
01:24 AM on 04/18/2011
I'm just glad someone else remembers Harry Hopkins... the fact that he was the one most valuable (and highly placed) Soviet spies in history is often overlooked as well.

http://www.aim.org/media-monitor/the-treachery-of-harry-hopkins/
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justalurker
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11:47 PM on 04/17/2011
About the czars: "why now has opinion shifted against them?"

Most people could care less. But faithful Fox viewers have been brainwashed by Glenn Beck who has been demonizing Obama's czars as well as the term and inflating the actual numbers. He has been doing this for a long time now.
12:10 AM on 04/18/2011
I would like to know how much a czar gets paid? The president appoints them and the tax payer has to pay for them, I'm unemployed 2.5 years now where can I apply for one of these jobs
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12:11 AM on 04/18/2011
bingo.
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ZANDALEE
always remember where you came from
06:59 PM on 04/17/2011
KEEPING HIS CZARS...I HOPE HE HAS A PLACE FOR THEM AFTER 2012. I JUST READ ABOUT SOCIAL SECURITY AND THEN I READ THIS. WHAT GARBAGE!
06:46 PM on 04/17/2011
Czars are Russian, and the last one was in 1917. If the Russians want to bring them back that's their business, but let's keep them out of here.
As it stands now, the wife of the president has more staff than President Roosevelt did at the height of the Second World War. We need to clean [White] House, starting with all these czars.
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06:58 PM on 04/17/2011
FDR wasn't running an empire and he wasn't the leader of the free world.

That said, there's no conceivable reason why the first lady needs any staff whatsoever.
07:22 PM on 04/17/2011
Forgot to mention that although no one is sure about the White House budget, at that time (Carter Administration), it was estimated at between $1 and $3 Billions.
07:28 PM on 04/17/2011
Initial reply did not post so here goes.
Absolutely agree with you concerning President's wife, but still think there could be a substantial reduction in President's staff as well. No one is sure how much the White House budget really is, because it is scattered among so many different functions. But some years ago (Carter Adminoistration) is was guestimated at between $1 and $3 Billions.
When I was a kid, between Korea and Vietnam, any citizen who wanted to see the President simply called the White House appointments secretary. If his schedule jived with yours, Eisenhower would see you. Now we have White House employees falling out the windows, a czar in every office, and that part of Pennsylvania Avenue closed to traffic. NO human being should be allowed to become THAT important.
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justalurker
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11:48 PM on 04/17/2011
Glenn? Beck? Is that you?
12:20 AM on 04/18/2011
No, I have a lot more class.
06:45 PM on 04/17/2011
Obama needs the Czars because he is totally incompetent and needs them to tell him how to run the country and unfortunately the Czars don 't know what they are doing either.
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12:14 AM on 04/18/2011
It wouldn't matter what the president did or does, you would say the same thing.
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traceymarie
the President is black, deal with it
01:39 AM on 04/18/2011
what happened with bush's "czars" did they make him lie to the American public?
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MyResponsibility
Action over hope
06:13 PM on 04/17/2011
As presidential assistants and advisers, these White House staffers are not accountable for their actions to the Congress, to cabinet officials, or to virtually anyone but the president. They rarely testify before congressional committees, and often shield the information and decision-making process behind the assertion of executive privilege. In too many instances, White House staff have been allowed to inhibit openness and transparency, and reduce accountability.
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justalurker
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05:56 PM on 04/18/2011
They are ADVISORS. They advise. They don't act. They don't do. They don't decide. You should focus on what the real decision makers do (president and cabinet members), not the silly strawnan argument about czars. It makes you sound like Glenn beck.
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MyResponsibility
Action over hope
11:22 PM on 04/18/2011
Actually, it makes me sound like the late Democrat Senator Robert Byrd, for my post was a direct quote.
05:18 PM on 04/17/2011
Of course he would demand that. Throughout history all dictatores appoint Czars and force his or her will on the people. What is there to figure out......... This i guy is our of control with his self worth and absolute opinion and will to enforce his views. My god we as a country are broke, not going broke. The staff in the federal govermnt has swelled to immeasurable numbers under his power. Washington has made no efforts to repiar our economy rather to drive it further in debt in the international banking circles. Yet instaed of dealing with our many problems at home..... under Obama's watch we are now fighting other country's civil wars in the name of innocent persons being harmed.....Has anyone considered the number of people being murdered in Africa, China, North Korea? (United States) Not to mention the incredable numbers here in our country killed by persons with knifes, clubs and drunk drivers? Oh dang I forgot to mention the guns that kill everyone!!!!!! Really? Why if guns kill people is it that in other country's our president is blaming death of individuals on other persons and not the guns?

Thank you concerned American; No party line supported with the comment. Simple reality, which is missing now......
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12:16 AM on 04/18/2011
You have drank the Beck koolaid.
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justalurker
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05:50 PM on 04/18/2011
Sounds like a Glenn beck show. He has been pushing many of these silly fears for a long time.
05:03 PM on 04/17/2011
Well, it's taken the pres and dems 3 years to run up a $4 Trillion dollar debt. I know it's Bush's fault and its also his fault that we'll have to borrow a few trillion more dollars to pay for the czars and Libya. How much interest are we paying out daily to China now ? I hope that some party can come up with a "real leader" that we can vote for in 2012. America can't take 4 more years of this! We are borrowing 40 cents of every dollar that we are spending now from China.
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justalurker
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11:50 PM on 04/17/2011
$10 trillion from Bush who gave away Clinton's surplus to the rich right off the bat.
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ChubsyUbsy
"Don't call me Norman!"
04:13 PM on 04/17/2011
Citing his credentials as a Constitutional Law professor, Obama explained that "Congress' job is to pass legislation," and when that happens, a President has only two options: "the President can veto it or sign it."

In contrast to Bush -- who, Obama said, "has been saying 'I can change what Congress passed by attaching a statement saying I don't agree with this part, I'm going to choose to interpret it this way or that way'" -- Obama said he, by contrast, believes "that's not part of [the President's] power."

He punctuated his answer as follows: "we're not going to use signing statements as a way of doing an end run around Congress." It just doesn't get any clearer than that.

But on Friday, Obama did exactly that which he vowed in that answer he would never do:

When signing the budget bill into law, he attached a signing statement objecting to some provisions as an encroachment on executive power but still vowing to obey them (such as restrictions on transferring Guantanamo detainees), but then explicitly stated that he would ignore the provision of this new law that de-funds his so-called "czars" (which are really little more than glorified presidential advisers).

-Glenn Greenwald
Salon.com

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2011/04/17/signing_statements/index.html
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justalurker
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11:52 PM on 04/17/2011
Nice try, Skippy.

"We are not going to use signing statements as a way of doing an end run around Congress." - Obama

Note he never said he wouldn't use them. He said they would not be used as an "end run". In fact he did say he would use them to uphold the constituti­on. The constituti­on separates the executive, legislativ­e and judicial branches as a check and balance of power. The legislativ­e branch has no constituti­onal right to make executive branch staff choices through funding or otherwise.

From March, 2009:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29600234/ns/politics-white_house/

Obama wrote "Constitutional signing statements should not be used to suggest that the president will disregard statutory requirements on the basis of policy disagreements."

He also pledged that he would use caution and restraint in writing his own signing statements. "With these considerations in mind and based upon advice of the Department of Justice, I will issue signing statements to address constitutional concerns only when it is appropriate to do so as a means of discharging my constitutional responsibilities," Obama pledged.
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Finally, Obama was true to his word about being cautious in the use of signing statements­.
He's issued 16 in his first 2.5 years for an average of roughly 6 per year.
Bush issued 158 in 8 years for an average of 20 per year. More than three times Obama's rate.

Source:
http://www­.coherentb­abble.com/­listGWBall­.htm
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pkafin
03:55 PM on 04/17/2011
"There is a long history of complaints about czars by whichever party does not occupy the White House"

Perhaps the Democrats had complaints about the behavior of any number of Bush's 30 czars. I do not remember, however, a single comment by a single Democrat suggesting that there was something wrong with tthe President having them. Many, if not most, of Obama's czars have actually been confirmed by Congress for jobs they hold. The "czar" part is an additional responsibility that they have been given to provide advice their area of expertise.