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Misrata Death Toll Hits 17: Fierce Fighting In Last Major Rebel Foothold In Western Libya

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BEN HUBBARD   04/17/11 08:46 PM ET   AP

AJDABIYA, Libya — Holding out under a rain of shelling and sniper fire, Libyan rebels fought Moammar Gadhafi's forces Sunday in close-quarters battles in the city center of Misrata, the last major rebel foothold in western Libya. Seventeen people were killed, an NGO worker and an opposition activist said.

Government troops have been laying siege to the city on Libya's Mediterranean coast for weeks, prompting repeated international warnings of a dire humanitarian situation as well as calls for NATO forces to intensify airstrikes on Gadhafi's forces there.

On Sunday, government troops, who have pushed into the city center from the outskirts in recent days, pounded Misrata with mortar rounds and rocket-propelled grenades, said resident Abdel-Salam, who only provided his given name for fear of retribution.

"Residents have become so accustomed to the sound of mortars and missiles," he said. "Snipers are still on the roofs of tall buildings shooting at anything that moves in the city center."

Rebels fought government forces back from an area around a central produce market, regaining a small sliver of territory, said Rida al-Montasser, a local activist reached by Skype.

He said a hospital report that he received from a doctor, showed 17 people, including rebels, were killed and 74 others were injured. He said Gadhafi forces had fired at the city's hospital Sunday.

A worker for a foreign NGO who visited the hospital Sunday also said 17 bodies were brought in, including that of a girl shot in the head. Other children who had been shot were among the wounded, he said, speaking on condition of anonymity because he feared for his safety.

Explosions thundered late into the night, al-Montasser said.

The NATO-led air campaign authorized by the U.N. to protect civilians and enforce a no-fly zone has failed to stop government shelling that, according to residents and witnesses, has hit Misrata's hospital, the port and residential areas.

The international airstrikes have kept rebels from being defeated on the battlefield by the better trained and equipped government forces, but it still has not been enough to turn the tide in the war. In the eastern half of Libya, rebels in control of most of that part of the country since the uprising began on Feb. 15 have been unable to advance westward toward the capital.

In Paris, French Defense Minister Gerard Longuet dismissed statements from a top NATO official that the alliance is short of aircraft. Longuet said instead that NATO's mission in Libya is hampered by a lack of ground information.

"There is no lack of planes but a lack of identification of mobile objectives," he said in an interview published Sunday in the daily Le Parisien. "The problem is that we're missing concrete and verifiable information on identified objectives on the ground."

Longuet said that "coalition aviation is capable of breaking all logistical provisions of Gadhafi's troops" to the east. But he acknowledged that in urban combat, "if the aviation avoids tragedies, it still isn't solving the problem."

After a meeting of NATO foreign ministers last week in Berlin, the alliance's secretary-general, Anders Fogh Rasmussen, said NATO needed "a small number of precision aircraft" to hit Gadhafi's forces.

"I'm hopeful that nations will step up to the plate," he said, noting that the two-day Berlin meeting was not held to solicit new pledges of support.

The need for the additional aircraft comes as the situation has changed on the ground, Fogh Rasmussen said.

In eastern Libya on Sunday, government forces shelled the eastern edge of Ajdabiya, the front-line rebel town that has been the scene of fierce fighting in recent weeks.

Loud booms rocked the city throughout the morning, sending a column of cars – some with rebel fighters, others with families – fleeing north through a thick sandstorm to more securely held rebel territory.

Rebel forces fired back with rockets and no government forces entered the city, said rebel fighter Awad Sathi.

The Libyan government has come under sharp international criticism for its assault on Misrata and has been accused by human rights groups of using heavy weapons, including shells, missiles and cluster bombs. Such bombs can cause indiscriminate casualties and have been banned by many countries.

In Tripoli, Libyan government spokesman Moussa Ibrahim denied the allegations Sunday, telling a small gathering of foreign diplomats: "Don't believe the lies."

Maj. Gen. Saleh Ibrahim denied Libyan forces have used cluster bombs, saying the army did not have such weapons and that Libyan soldiers had not been trained in their use.

On Sunday, spokesman Ibrahim said NATO is taking sides in the conflict and renewed claims that fighters from the al-Qaida terror network have joined the rebels.

"NATO is supporting the rebels, allowing them to advance against our army, providing them with air cover," he said. "It knows about the arming of rebels by the Qatari government and is allowing that. NATO knows about al-Qaida activities in Benghazi, Darna and Beyda. It knows that al-Qaida fighters are advancing westbound."

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Associated Press writer Karin Laub in Tripoli, Libya, and Sarah El Deeb in Cairo contributed to this report.

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12:37 AM on 04/19/2011
the people who live in that country need to oust him america cannot be the worlds police
alex davis
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07:59 PM on 04/18/2011
Obama hopes to get second Nobel Prize for t­asting Labian blood
12:18 PM on 04/18/2011
Gaddafi is now using child soldiers, as young as 12. He's running out of man power.
wyldthings
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12:31 PM on 04/18/2011
You have carried the water for this incursion since day one. You said it would be just like Obama said a matter of days not weeks. You continue to repeat every thing the Administration says, Human Shields, Cluster bombs, Rapes and Murders. Now 42 years ago when he took power most of us knew he was a brutal Dictator. This is a terrible plan. Fire missiles and then HOPE Gaddafi leaves. That my friend is an Immature leader either put boots from some Nation on the ground and remove him or get out of the Game.
OpposingViewpoint
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11:55 AM on 04/18/2011
The Tyr@nt of Tripoli is indeed a tyr@nt but he is Libya's tyr@nt and the Libyans must take out their own g@rbage, we are not the world's W@ste Management crew. For now, with the US trying to stand down in a war we should have never stood up for, Gaddafi seems to have won the fight for Libya. Absent major escalation by the US, NATO does not have the capacity, will, or assets to continue the fight.
Despite the public proclamati­­ons of a humanitari­­an mission, the goal in Libya is for "regime change". The UN mandate and indeed the UNSCR1973 does not permit or authorize regime change but it is very clear regime change was/is indeed our NATO's goal.
Absent a "declared war" between Libya and the US, regime change or coup d'etat, is illegal under US and Internatio­­­­nal law. If you look at the Boland Amendment, our actions in Libya are unambiguou­­­sly illegal. Just as our actions in Iraq beginning in 2003 were illegal, so too are our activities in North Africa. We have already spent well over $600 MILLION in North Africa supporting a revolution by a confederat­­ion comprised of groups that may or may not have "our" long term best interests in mind. There are those that will argue our interests are not important and should not have any weight in our deliberati­­ons or decisions on Libya. I say they are wrong and incredibly naive.
12:00 PM on 04/18/2011
They are taking out their own garbage. But they needed help against fighter jets and tanks, so they asked for help from the International Community, which they got.

If money is the problem, USA has $32 Billion of Gaddafi's assets frozen. Libyans will let you take whatever you need from that to cover the costs.
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12:04 PM on 04/18/2011
"We are not the world's (policeman)"?

Really? Says you? On what authority do you get to declare that?

Have you recently been elected to high executive office by 70 million of your fellow citizens, like, say, President Obama?

As for the Boland amendment, perhaps you could expand on that?

Regarding the long-term outcome of replacing Qaddafi with a new, hopefully democratic regime, I can only advise: if you want a guarantee, go buy a car. To the bold goes the victory.
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09:26 PM on 04/18/2011
On what authority? On mine and of course the rule of law, both international and domestic and you know that to be true and that is what irritates you so isn't it? This President, just like the last one has violated the rule of law and continues to violate the law while he pursues "regime change" in Libya behind a smokescreen of humanitarianism.
More and more of the 70 million, this voice included, you refer to are beginning to see the real objective in Libya and as I said to you late last month, there will be a price to pay at the polls, your objections notwithstanding.
The Boland Admendment you asked, perhaps you should do your own research and there you will find this President has indeed violated the restrictions against regime change exactly as I have said he has, not that any of that matters to you.
Regarding any advice you might offer me, thanks but no thanks. I am afraid I would reject it out of hand while standing on principle.
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11:45 AM on 04/18/2011
"The NATO-led air campaign authorized by the U.N. to protect civilians and enforce a no-fly zone has failed to stop government shelling that, according to residents and witnesses, has hit Misrata's hospital, the port and residential areas."

An old dark humored joke: How many Italian sharpshooter shot Mussolini once in the head? Answer: 200
03:20 PM on 04/18/2011
If the siege of Misurata can`t be lifted the UN mandated implementation effort is in serious trouble indeed.
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11:18 AM on 04/18/2011
Rebels need to think about civilians.
Rebels must disperse and commence with guerrilla warfare and civil disobedience agitprop campaign.
Sergeant
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11:48 AM on 04/18/2011
The rebels are nor regular soldiers. They have no unit cohesion. That just isn't a nice hypothetical thing to have. Movement of forces and supplies, etc tactically needs some authority, military intelligence and capacity.

Only boots on the ground can stop it. Air power cannot.
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12:05 PM on 04/18/2011
And I think the French should be able to provide them.....
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02:48 PM on 04/18/2011
They're not regular soldiers?! What does that have to do with anything, Are you saying they're not involved in a sh00ting war? They need to lay their arms down and disperse to avoid civilian catastrophe.
Also my suggestion for guerrilla warfare still stands. Few guerrilla fighters ever had any military training. But their impact is often more devastating than a regiment of regular conscripts.
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Ergon
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11:17 AM on 04/18/2011
"Many countries have banned the use of cluster bombs" but not apparently, the US or Israel. Israel dropped hundreds of thousands on Lebanon, and the US, 1400 on Yugoslavia.
Yet when the NYT reports FOUR bombs (unconfirmed) we cue the moral outrage.
This is not a just war, and the sooner the rebels surrender, the better what is left of Libya will be.
11:41 AM on 04/18/2011
LOL keep supporting the genocidal tyrant. A month from now International Criminal Court will charge Gaddafi with crimes against humanity. You're pathetic.
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07:06 PM on 04/18/2011
You really are a simp if you don't know what a "genocide" is.
12:02 PM on 04/18/2011
Gaddafi will be charged with crimes against humanity by the International Criminal Court next month. Go out on the streets with his posters showing how much you support him. Don't be shy, I dare you.
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11:16 AM on 04/18/2011
Fierce fighting.

Translation:

Our good guys are getting whacked into a pulp.

Quick, let's have Sarkozy Bonafarte drop a big one on Tripoli.
10:23 AM on 04/18/2011
Thought Obama was trying to save lives?
10:57 AM on 04/18/2011
Yes. He has.
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11:18 AM on 04/18/2011
The only (low)lives he was ever trying to save were those of Lloyd Blankfein, Ben Bernanke, Tim Geithner and Larry Summers.
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11:51 AM on 04/18/2011
"The NATO-led air campaign authorized by the U.N. to protect civilians and enforce a no-fly zone has failed to stop government shelling that, according to residents and witnesses, has hit Misrata's hospital, the port and residential areas."

He is doing as good a job here as he has done on everything else. That's why candidates in the last election ran away when he showed up. The guy is a walking disaster.
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10:21 AM on 04/18/2011
The very best you can say for both sides is they have been aiming into the sky and the seventeen were killed by mistake! For the few who have used a high powered weapon, seen the penetration power and ability to do harm to the human body, plus going threw wood, cars, doors, windows, walls and ricocheting around, you understand to only kill seventeen when two forces are shooting at each other means only one person in a hundred was aiming.
We are told of violent rocket attacks, the use of air craft to attack and tanks firing into city apartment buildings and yet less are killed then a natural disaster in America!
So, we are having a CIA war run on a tight budget for the consumption of the media. Not good.
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09:48 AM on 04/18/2011
Fierce fighting ? Seventeen killed ? Those guys must be firing blanks at each other, we bag more than that, in Afghanistan, with one Predator missile fired from a game console in Nevada,
10:58 AM on 04/18/2011
15,000+ have been killed in the last 2 months with 10's of thousands more imprisoned in aweful conditions, being fed few slices of bread and a bottle of water a day.
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11:11 AM on 04/18/2011
Rubbish. Hospital figures bely your fake ones, and anyway, most civilians have evacuated. The dead are mostly combatants.
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12:16 PM on 04/18/2011
Are you taliking about total figures, both rebels and government forces ? I think your estimate of prisoners is sorta high. Tens of thousands ? I doubt if the total combat forces involve on both sides amounts to more than 25,000 or so troops. Probably less.
09:41 AM on 04/18/2011
A ragged "rebel" group, given the desire to be free, usually wins the war -- if not all the battles. The fat-cat Generals with their clusters of medals, with elaborate uniforms and well-equipped and well-armed troops, seems to have more often lost wars than to have won them. Examples: American Revolution ("rag-tag bob-tail" jokes), the French Revolution (Miserables), the Viet Cong, the Russian Revolutionaries, anti-Batista Cubans, Taliban, Jewish fighters in 1948, etc. Gaddafi won't make it -- nor does it seem that the tailored fellows in the Pentagon will win many wars in the Mideast. Of course, there are exceptions, after all, we did crush the dreadful threat of Grenada -- for which 4,000 victory medals were awarded even to those who were never in Grenada.
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11:19 AM on 04/18/2011
The only problem with this "rebel" group is that they are not rebels.

It's hired hands.

Those typically don't win any wars.
11:58 AM on 04/18/2011
Which is why Gaddafi is losing. His army of Chadian, Belorussia, Algerian and Serbian mercenaries only cares about money. They won't win this war for him.
04:24 PM on 04/18/2011
What makes you think the defenders of Misurata are hired hands?
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11:54 AM on 04/18/2011
Ghaddafi may not make it, but I am wondering if the "rebels" will be of the same caliber as our founding fathers?
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12:12 PM on 04/18/2011
You think they will be slave owners?
08:46 AM on 04/18/2011
Gaddafi will never take Misrata. Just like Stalingrad was where it all started going down hill for Adolf, Misrata is where it all is going down hill for Muammar.
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11:20 AM on 04/18/2011
Harharhar...Stalingrad?!? Which vodka have you been sipping as of lately?

P. Diddy Ciroc?
11:57 AM on 04/18/2011
Yes, Stalingrad. As in the city that was under siege for 6 months, never gave up, and defeated the invaders. Same is happening in Misrata. It has been under siege for almost 2 months. Water, electricity, food supplies- everything is cut. Sewere are blocked. City keeps getting attacked every single day. But the people of the city have repelled every attack.
08:44 AM on 04/18/2011
Have we had enough fun yet Obama? Can we work on some of the problems at home now?
08:45 AM on 04/18/2011
Can you chew gum and walk?
Sergeant
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11:56 AM on 04/18/2011
Do you understand the concept of a just war? And it isn't saving people from their own despots. If it was, we would be in three countries without any exit strategy...wait..we are.
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11:20 AM on 04/18/2011
We have problems other than Obama at home?
08:21 AM on 04/18/2011
"The Libyan government spokesman, Moussa Ibrahim, says the deal included setting up a humanitarian corridor to the city of Misrata. "The agreement (with the UN) is to provide safe passage for people to leave Misrata, to provide aid, food and medicine," Ibrahim said... He said the deal also called for free access of international aid agencies and ensuring that electricity, water and other services are provided to Misrata... Valerie Amos, the UN humanitarian chief. said she had received assurances from Gaddafi's government authorities that the UN would be allowed in to Misrata."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2011/apr/18/libya-middle-east-syria-gaddafi
Safe passage for people to go where? The regime may well argue those not leaving for territory held by Gaddafi loyalists are the very "rats" they need to go after.
08:35 AM on 04/18/2011
The real talk statement should read: " unless you want to be blown to pieces ,leave now. Anyone remaining will be assumed to be an enemy combatant" then afterwards all those dead people will be easier to dismiss as The Enemy.
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checkmoot
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09:51 AM on 04/18/2011
I believe that is exactly what we said, and did, in Iraq, to the folks that lived in Fallujah.
08:42 AM on 04/18/2011
Moussa's full name is 'Moussa Ibrahim Gaddafi'. That's all you need to know.