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Financial System Riskier, Next Bailout Will Be Costlier, S&P Says

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First Posted: 04/19/11 06:26 PM ET Updated: 06/19/11 06:12 AM ET

The financial system poses an even greater risk to taxpayers than before the crisis, according to analysts at Standard & Poor's. The next rescue could be about a trillion dollars costlier, the credit rating agency warned.

S&P put policymakers on notice, saying there's "at least a one-in-three" chance that the U.S. government may lose its coveted AAA credit rating. Various risks could lead the agency to downgrade the Treasury's credit worthiness, including policymakers' penchant for rescuing bankers and traders from their failures.

"The potential for further extraordinary official assistance to large players in the U.S. financial sector poses a negative risk to the government's credit rating,” S&P said in its Monday report.

But, the agency's analysts warned, "we believe the risks from the U.S. financial sector are higher than we considered them to be before 2008."

Because of the increased risk, S&P forecasts the potential initial cost to taxpayers of the next crisis cleanup to approach 34 percent of the nation's annual economic output, or gross domestic product. In 2007, the agency's analysts estimated it could cost 26 percent of GDP.

Last year, U.S. output neared $14.7 trillion, according to the Commerce Department. By S&P’s estimate, that means taxpayers could be hit with $5 trillion in costs in the event of another financial collapse.

Experts said that while the cost estimate seems unusually high, there's little dispute that when the next crisis hits, it will not be anticipated -- and it will likely hurt the economy more than the last financial crisis.

"The impact of the next crisis will be greater because the economy is in a much more fragile state," said Andrew Lo, professor of finance at the MIT Sloan School of Management.

"My worry about the next financial crisis is it will come from some corner we haven't really thought about, and we'll be locked into more constraints on the Fed's ability and on the Treasury's ability to really do anything," said Jeremy Stein, an economics professor at Harvard University who worked as an adviser to both the Treasury Department and the White House in 2009.

The constraints are a result of the last round of multiple bailouts.

"I think it's literally going to be politically harder to put in resources, for better or for worse," Stein said. That could either induce those in the financial system to take less risk, forestalling the next breakdown, or, "the mop up will be more difficult," Stein said.

The U.S. banking industry poses as much of a credit risk as Spain's, S&P wrote in an April 8 report in which it judged 92 nations' banking sectors. Spain is frequently mentioned as a candidate for an international bailout because many of its banks are under-capitalized, its banking system remains dogged by delinquent bubble-era loans and it faces losing investor confidence.

The ranking is partly based on the quality of a nation's financial regulation and lending patterns. U.S. bank regulators failed to prevent the crisis or the poor lending that led to it, S&P analysts wrote in a Jan. 6 report.

"Systemic risk is greater now," said Mark T. Williams, a finance professor at Boston University and a former bank examiner for the Federal Reserve. "It was uncorked because of the fall of Lehman Brothers, and the genie has been let out of the bottle," he said, referring to the September 2008 failure of the former investment bank.

The continued rise of globalization and the separate growth of derivatives -- financial instruments that aim to spread risk -- have led to greater connections between countries, industries and companies, Williams said. The level of so-called interconnection has tied firms to one another in ways experts do not completely understand. Regulators and policymakers didn't know how interconnected various banks and insurance companies were prior to the near-financial meltdown of 2008.

Because the giant insurer American International Group, better known as AIG, was connected to so many firms through derivatives, policymakers felt forced to bail the company out when it ran into trouble.

"Systemic risk knows no national boundaries," said Williams, who published "Uncontrolled Risk," a book on the topic, last year. "It is not random or a force of nature, it is man made. [And] the global financial market remains fragile due to weak policies, lax regulation, poor accountability and systems not designed to capture global risk management."

The risk of another financial collapse also has increased, Lo of MIT argues, because banks have not accounted for losses on poorly-performing assets they're still hiding on their books; lawmakers' likely aversion to another bailout should the system run into trouble again; and the perception that many national economies aren't as durable as they were just a few years ago. China, for example, was able to help the U.S. through the depths of the last crisis thanks to the steps it took to increase domestic spending.

But today, China is trying to cool down an over-heating economy.

"Next time around, if we see another systemic shock, it will be very difficult for us to depend on our foreign trading partners to cushion that kind of a blow," Lo said. "The world economy is not as resilient as it was just a few years ago."

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The financial system poses an even greater risk to taxpayers than before the crisis, according to analysts at Standard & Poor's. The next rescue could be about a trillion dollars costlier, the credit ...
The financial system poses an even greater risk to taxpayers than before the crisis, according to analysts at Standard & Poor's. The next rescue could be about a trillion dollars costlier, the credit ...
 
 
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03:33 AM on 04/27/2011
The next Bailout...Really? I know we love to repeat our mistakes because we prove it all the time but bailouts should be made anticonstitutional lest we admit socialism is the better type government.
The people from Iceland have thaught the rest of the world a lesson already forgotten, especialy here. They refused the financial bailout way and proved the falsehood all bailout proponents were spewing which the proponents are still, unbelievably, spewing today.
12:13 AM on 05/22/2011
Do you understand the concept of a bailout? There are many good reasons why bailouts are constitutional, It's purpose is to prevent "complete" failure, governments, businesses, economies even the banking system itself, ALL require bailouts, for the simple fact that greedy powerful people attempt outragous scam's to steal millions and billions ( they usually succeed). Socialism does not work for America, becuase our economy is exceedingly bigger and much more complex then iceland's, the US follows the constituion, with that being said, capitalism is the only compatable type of government for America ,

bailout proponents, are just like any other extremist, these spewing proponents, obviously didn't take the time to realize, the system works relatively to where you are in the world, not all countries need bailouts, we however very much need them
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Tyberius
12:20 PM on 04/25/2011
why we dont break up the financial businesses as such into 4 separate and distinct operations is beyond my realm of comprehension. (1) Commercial Banking, (2) Insurance, (3) investment banking, and (4) Hedge Fund operations, should not be under the same umbrella, in the same business, etc. It's not that hard to understand that doing this will remove, not 100%, but maybe 85% the 'collapse' potential. Especially commercial banking. Peoples money should not be commingled or have any connection to investment, ever. Anymore, ever. How hard is this to comprehend? We took steps to fix this issue in the 1800's. We removed and/or weakened this in the past 20 years. And look what happens? How obvious and apparent is this? Seriously.
12:37 AM on 05/22/2011
This would do nothing to lower the collapse potential, and your very wrong for saying peoples money should have no connection to investment, you may not have realized it, but rather you think so or not, getting rid of the connection between, people's money and investment would never work, we use fractional banking, this means when you walk into a bank and give them 350 dollars, they put a fraction or portion of the money aside to repay other expected customer withdrawals, take out the fractional banking system, the result is economic chaos every single time. changing our money system completely is not feasable.
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hairydodger
01:35 AM on 04/25/2011
After they took half my money I bailed out of Wall St. I never thought it before but now I'm sure it's rigged.
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Tom Langley
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04:57 PM on 04/23/2011
Alain has it about right. Glass-Steagel would help. But Monetry reform revolution is what's really needed at some point. Debt based money must end. If we are to have currency- the Governments should print it for themselves, interest free. Right now, such a huge amount of our taxes are paying banks intest on the debt. There doesn't need to be a debt. No one will tell you that, but it's true, and it's legal. It is truly the only way to have a sovereign country and currency. But the central bank money changers would be out of business, and when you threaten them with that they start assassinating people and starting wars. It is truly the most important thing humankind can do in it's own interest. This issue is so much bigger than the Us, or Western nations. It's a global conquest, and the bankers are very near to winning. Sovereign nations send their sons to die for their money systems. Think about this, if all money is debt, but only enough money (bank credit) .is created to cover the principal but not interest, which is how this system works, how is that sustainable. It's a musical chair ponzi scheme. Most governments on earth are subscribed, and by it's very design, many must lose, and eventually it must correct, violently. The biggger it ges the more violent and impactful the corrections. Yet we continue. Watch the money master and the secrets of oz on YouTube. If it doesn't scare you
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greihing
01:35 PM on 04/21/2011
My previous post was cut off. Here is the point that I wanted to make.

Keep in mind that Standard & Poor's was one of the same credit rating agencies that also gave bad mortgage backed securities a triple A rating. Then they turned around an claimed that their rating only reflected "an opinion" in order to dodge any liability for gross negligence.

So take thier "opinion" on this matter with the same weight that they gave those mortgage backed securities.
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littleblackcat
12:52 PM on 04/21/2011
The people should not allow this to happen. If that bailout money had been instead distributed to the working classes instead of the rich, tens of thousands of new businesses would have been created with it.

Sure, some people would burn through it stupidly, the rich don't have the market on foolish greed completely cornered, but for the most part it would haave been spent in this country setting up small businesses that would have grown and gone back to the American standard of quality.

A lot of us have gotten so disgusted with crappy quality out of China that we have again taken up the habit of writing to complain. I don't expect China will change any too soon, but if enough people are mad about the products that don't come up to snuff, it will open doors again. Call me an optimist. Maybe just a fool. I can dream.
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Charles E Evans
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11:19 AM on 04/21/2011
S&P gave the U.S. a triple A rating all through the Bush administration. Bush squandered a 500 billion dollar surplus and turned it into a 4 trillion dollar deficit. Do you really trust S&P's credibility?
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littleblackcat
12:46 PM on 04/21/2011
Unfortunately, I believe S&P is up to its collective eyeballs in in rethuglicants in every principal position. The aim is to discredit this President through any means possible. S&P will not bother to point out the simple truth that most of the reason we are in this dillema is because of the cheney/bushit regime and its habit of going to illegal war without paying for them and giving huge tax breaks to their rich donors.
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Lolie Culley
03:04 AM on 04/21/2011
S&P hid the Lies, Fraud, and Corruption by the Financial Institution we trusted years ago. What's the big deal now? We don't Trust you no more S&P, so s=u=c=k it up.
11:18 PM on 04/20/2011
Let's just get rid of wall street! I know this won't happen, but I'm thinking the world might be better of with out it. I know this is extreme. I know it won't happen, but one can wish.
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10:28 AM on 04/21/2011
If wishes were horses....................................................Beggars would ride
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DenverWilliam
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10:35 PM on 04/20/2011
NO MORE BAIL OUTS!
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Kevin Shilling
10:21 PM on 04/20/2011
I said this last year when no changes were made to avoid the same fiasco!
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10:32 AM on 04/21/2011
F&F:By Chris Hedges

Corporations, which control the levers of power in government and finance, promote and empower the psychologically maimed. Those who lack the capacity for empathy and who embrace the goals of the corporation—personal power and wealth—as the highest good succeed. Those who possess moral autonomy and individuality do not. And these corporate heads, isolated from the mass of Americans by insular corporate structures and vast personal fortunes, are no more attuned to the misery, rage and pain they cause than were the courtiers and perfumed fops who populated Versailles on the eve of the French Revolution. They play their games of high finance as if the rest of us do not exist. And it is a game that will kill us.

These companies exist in a pathological world where identity and personal worth are determined solely by the perverted code of the corporation. The corporation decides who has value and who does not, who advances and who is left behind. It rewards the most compliant, craven and manipulative, and discards the losers who can’t play the game, those who do not accumulate wealth or status fast enough, or who fail to fully subsume their individuality into the corporate collective. It dominates the internal and external lives of its employees, leaving them without time for family or solitude—without time for self-reflection—and drives them into a state of perpetual nervous exhaustion.

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/wall_street_will_be_back_for_more_20100110/
09:35 PM on 04/20/2011
Good to see people are paying attention and don't agree w/another bailout...read Matt Taibbi's articles to get a great overview of the greed...

Newest one:

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-real-housewives-of-wall-street-look-whos-cashing-in-on-the-bailout-20110411?page=1
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muck-raker
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10:33 AM on 04/21/2011
everyone needs to read that article.....unbelievable
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windwolf
09:33 PM on 04/20/2011
Well then there needs to be a Systemic Risk Fund established by the Treasury and the SEC to insure that if and when another bailout is required it will come from the accumulated enforced contributions by all the financial interests involved, and will be adequate to cover the mega figures estimated as a dire possible consequence of Wall Street's and the banking industries untreated gambling addiction. I frankly WILL NOT contribute a dime in taxes to pay for the Wall St "casino" losses of a known group of gambling addicts. If another meltdown occurs, I'd rather go to jail, than go on the hook for these scheming scammers. It's a lousy bet.
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World Citizen
01:56 AM on 04/21/2011
But you don't really have a say in the matter. There will be another bailout. It's already been 'paid' for by the TBTF. Some of our politicians are surelyy profiting from these bailouts.
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muck-raker
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10:37 AM on 04/21/2011
Jamie Dimon said that he wanted to go World wide. I thought reading between the lines he was saying since the GS act was not reenacted that the market WAS STILL
RIPE for Plucking
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rybalaw
08:13 PM on 04/20/2011
A. Who paid S&P for the rating? B. Given the number of times that S&P gave the AAA rating to absolute crap mortgage backed securities prior to 2008 should anyone believe anything from them. C. Despite the AAA rating the underwriters of the securities (Goldman, Morgan) knew them for the crap they were and invested the company funds shorting the very thing they were underwriting.
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DenverWilliam
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10:35 PM on 04/20/2011
you got that right...S&P rated all those toxic assets aaa
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Sister777
Make Corporations Pay
07:46 PM on 04/20/2011
News coverage on S&P’s credit warning typically failed to mention that Standard & Poor’s itself is in utter disrepute. It was an unindicted co-conspirator in the Wall Street deceitfulness that brought the nation to financial ruin. During the bubble of inflated housing prices, S&P and other rating agencies blessed the fraud-based mortgage securities issued by Wall Street banks with AAA ratings – deceiving gullible investors around the world and assuring bloated profits (and executive bonuses) for the greedy bankers. S&P provided cover for the massive scam that led to the crisis that sank the national economy.

The real explanation for the deficits has been air-brushed out of public discussion. Instead, we are witnessing another brazen scam engineered by the financial establishment – a phony political analysis that blames the victims, Americans at large who lost jobs, homes, savings and security thanks to Wall Street titans. The fiscal problem, we are told by right-handed commentary, should be blamed on big government, not big bankers. Because Washington has overreached, people must now learn to curb their appetites. Brave politicians in both parties claim they must cut health care and Social Security and other important guarantees in order to save the country from wrathful judgment by Standard & Poor’s. What a hoot.

http://www.thenation.com/article/160066/credit-rating-hoax
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10:40 AM on 04/21/2011
excellent post F&F