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The Lack Of Enthusiasm In The 2012 GOP Field Is Directly Related To The Fact That The 2012 GOP Campaign Hasn't Started Yet

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First Posted: 04/21/11 01:48 PM ET Updated: 06/21/11 06:12 AM ET

This week, the notion that GOP voters are none too enthusiastic about the field of 2012 candidates is starting to hit a critical mass. Why is that happenning? This CBS News poll is a big reason why:

A 56 percent majority of Republican voters told a CBS News/New York Times poll that none of the names officially or unofficially in the hat at this stage made them feel enthusiastic as potential nominees.

When asked if there was anyone they did feel enthusiastic about for the nomination -- without mentioning any names -- none of the contenders garnered more than 9 percent. That high of 9 percent went to Mitt Romney, with 8 percent saying they felt the same about Mike Huckabee, followed by 7 percent for Donald Trump, then Newt Gingrich with 5 percent, and Sarah Palin with 4 percent.

Apparently, people look at results like that and conclude that the GOP's chances in 2012 are irrevocably doomed. That's bizarre, for a very simple reason: the 2012 campaign hasn't started yet. As of this moment, the "2012 field of GOP candidates" comprises Fred Karger and -- as of today -- Gary Johnson. Who is "winning news cycles?" Reality-teevee candidate Donald Trump. Have I hit on anything that the average Republican voter should feel enthusiastic about yet? Didn't think so.

In this sort of environment, it's big news when South Carolina Governor Nikki Haley announces that "no one in the field excites me right now." But what are the chances that the eventual GOP nominee doesn't earn Haley's full-throated support? I'd say just about nil.

Here's Daily Intel's Dan Amira with some real talk:

Republican voters have barely even begun to pay attention to the campaign and scrutinize the field.

A Pew poll released yesterday asked Republican voters to name the possible GOP candidate they have heard the most about recently. Trump took first place with 39 percent of the vote, but a close second was None/Don't Know, with 38 percent. Thirty-eight percent of Republicans couldn't even name a candidate they have heard about recently!

And as for the people they have heard about, many have declined to actually process the information they have gathered and form an opinion. Take this Times poll. While it's understandable that the vast majority of voters don't know much about guys like Jon Hunstman or Michele Bachmann or Tim Pawlenty, who have been bottled up in faraway lands like China or Minnesota for the past few years, many voters are withholding an opinion even for candidates who ran in 2008 and have been a near-constant presence since then. Thirty-five percent of GOP voters are undecided about whether they like or dislike Mike Huckabee? Forty-three percent don't know enough to form an opinion on Romney? That's just kind of bizarre.

Pawlenty and Romney (and Huckabee, should he choose to run) are going to take command of the 2012 field and the conversation that surrounds it as soon as they make formal announcements that they are running for president and begin actually competing with each other at primary debates. In the meantime, the fact that they do not dominate the news cycle in the manner of Donald Trump is a great advantage. Trump has, if anything, debased the discourse, and the Romneys and Pawlentys of the world are going to add gravitas to the race almost by default. In the meanwhile, they're not making any grave error by keeping out of the conversation, as long as they're working at building up their campaign infrastructure in the meantime.

That's where Huckabee, who has been slow to erect a campaign, is slightly disadvantaged. But to Huckabee, there's no great worry: he still dominates the presumed field in Iowa. He and Romney still run competitive races with President Barack Obama.

There is, potentially, a competitive 2012 campaign to be run -- but it will have to actually begin before anyone can realistically analyze how satisfied Republican voters are with it. Eight months from now, when the field is set and they've matched up with one another and the first caucuses and primaries are looming, we might have reason to revisit this and conclude the cat never quite jumped. But if you're a Democratic strategist and you're gaming out the next year and a half of your life based on the assumptions you've extrapolated from April 2011, you'd best prepare to have a back-up plan.

UPDATE: Jamelle Bouie adds: "This is almost entirely a product of name recognition, or the lack thereof."

For example, according to the Times survey, 80 percent of Republican respondents did not know enough about Gov. Tim Pawlenty to give an opinion on whether they viewed him favorably or unfavorably. Likewise, the same was true of Gov. Haley Barbour (85 percent), Jon Huntsman (90 percent), Michele Bachmann (75 percent), and Rick Santorum (76 percent). The only candidates to stand out form the crowd were Sarah Palin, Newt Gingrich, Mitt Romney, and Mike Huckabee. Accordingly, GOP voters had stronger feelings about each.

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This week, the notion that GOP voters are none too enthusiastic about the field of 2012 candidates is starting to hit a critical mass. Why is that happenning? This CBS News poll is a big reason why: ...
This week, the notion that GOP voters are none too enthusiastic about the field of 2012 candidates is starting to hit a critical mass. Why is that happenning? This CBS News poll is a big reason why: ...
 
 
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04:56 PM on 04/26/2011
The Daily Show had something about the absurdity of all this attention to GOP 2012 election polls. It was very good and funny. He questions why it is getting all of this attention, and people should focus on things that are actually important. Bill Clinton was a complete unknown at about this time distance from the 1992 election.

Obama has two years left to serve as president. Well maybe more like a year and a half. I know that he is all pumped up about campaigning for 2012, perhaps because he finds that he is a better campaigner than president. But I don't think anybody is really that interested in the presidential election of 2012. I think more people are interested in the Mayan prophesy than that election. I think more people would be happier if Obama did his job instead of campaigned right now too. I mean, really?

Finally, I think it is incredible that the GOP actually has a shot to win in 2012. They were dead in the water in the 2008 election, and especially after it. There will be more excitement though when the debates actually start.
kmichal2000
just netflix Burzynski
01:47 AM on 04/24/2011
Paul/Johnson 2012..perfect ticket....the liberals/neo-cons (they're same people) would be very scared.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_barack_obama_42_ron_paul_41
10:24 AM on 04/23/2011
In a world where Lohan gets press for theft in every paper and show, maybe we should consider a candidate with a proven track record of actually having a job, being successful and honest as a good choice. Gary Johnson! Balanced budget. Shrunk government. Vetoed 750 bills. Left his state with a 1 Billion dollar surplus. Built consensus as a Rep in a 2 to 1 Dem state. His only drawback is he hasn't been a "Community Organizer", and he will show his birth certificate.
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livfreeordi
There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch!
12:51 AM on 04/23/2011
The Huffington Post used to be a domain of the Left.

Now..with the take-over by AOL..not so much.

Still a lot of leftover Lefties..but now many more conservatives are speaking out..

Looks like the conservatives are still outnumbered at least 5 to 1.

On an intellectual level, that ratio is grossly unfair..

..to the Left.
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livfreeordi
There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch!
12:37 AM on 04/23/2011
"The Lack Of Enthusiasm In The 2012 GOP Field Is Directly Related To The Fact That The 2012 GOP Campaign Hasn't Started Yet"

Kind of sums it all up.

It's kind of dumb to talk about lack of enthusiasm when its so far to the election.

There are just too many people considering running as the GOP candidate right now to really decide on any one of them...and most people are just waiting for the numbers to thin out and the dust to settle before uniting behind one candidiate.

You know what IS exciting?

The latest poll numbers ..which showed Obama's approval rating down to 41% in the Gallup poll!

Now THAT was exciting!
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houseofd
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04:17 AM on 04/24/2011
Snore. Given the crop of GOP "talent," Obama could win with a 15% approval rating.

No one wants to go up against him. Pretty sad.
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TYRANNASAURUS
UGH!....people taste like crap!
11:09 AM on 04/22/2011
The Lack Of Enthusiasm In The 2012 GOP Field Is Directly Related To The Fact That The 2012 GOP Campaign Hasn't Started Yet....

SOUNDS GREAT......but what excuse are they going to use after it starts?
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moose and squirrel
Very soon we would both be completely twisted...
06:25 AM on 04/22/2011
crusties and crazees just arent in vogue this year.
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efffox
The truth is NOT halfway between right and wrong
03:53 AM on 04/22/2011
I can explain it. No one with an ounce of intelligence thinks they can win against President Obama, so all you're left with are the whackadoodles!!
02:00 AM on 04/22/2011
The Republicans need to find another Barack Obama to run for them. You know, someone who has little experience doing anything of substance other then community agitation..whoops...organizing. Someone who voted over a hundred times as present rather then make a decision. Someone who has zero business experience, never managed anything, especially a budget, and hides everything about his educational records so no one really knows his performance in college. Someone who hung out with radicals like Bill Ayers and Reverend Wright. And, someone who is a good Teleprompter reader and speaker. Maybe if they found someone with these traits and background they would have a chance against the cool and intellectual Obama.
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davegstein
06:14 AM on 04/22/2011
They could,they could! Or they could just continue down the road they have already traveled down:Continue with a group of self serving,half baked,bigoted fraudsters who lack any basic ideas on problem solving.Continue to pander to all the fringe elements who seek diversion and hate to achieve some twisted religious ideology.Continue to also pander to all the industrialists who would rather ship jobs,or pollute the air or water,or avoid taxes.They could continue to sell their seats in the peoples Congress to the highest bidder,rather than represent the needs of the nation and the people who voted them in power.Yup,they could basically just remain true to who they really are....
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moose and squirrel
Very soon we would both be completely twisted...
06:26 AM on 04/22/2011
you can poopoo O all you want, but he still wipes the floor with the entire GOP cast of crazees put together.
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Littlewords
I think I am, therefore I am, I think?!?
06:34 PM on 04/21/2011
All bad choices = voter apathy.
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TYRANNASAURUS
UGH!....people taste like crap!
05:08 PM on 04/21/2011
Explaining The Lack Of Enthusiasm In The 2012 GOP Field.......

The simple answer is who gets enthused over boring?
04:31 PM on 04/21/2011
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. The GOP field could be alot stronger if they would bring in a proven candidate. Someone with name recognitio­n, business experience­, has ran for office before, enough money and social status to carry the party.
Why not a man like Monty Burns?
Some interestin­g facts on C. Montgomery Burns.
Springfiel­d's richest man, built his atomic energy fortune from the ground up after inheriting his father's atom-split­ting factory. As owner of the Springfiel­d Nuclear Power Plant, he has been able to control local elections, manage a championsh­ip-winning baseball team, and hold a chair on the board of Springfiel­d University.
With this list of republican candidates Trump, Palin, Bachmann, T-Paw, and the rest (like the theme song of Gilligan's Island).
Ask yourself why not Monty Burns.
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TYRANNASAURUS
UGH!....people taste like crap!
05:09 PM on 04/21/2011
We're all so glad you said it again....mount who?
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davegstein
06:19 AM on 04/22/2011
Who's gonna share the ticket?
Monty & Michell?
Monty /Romney 2012?
Monty/Macain?
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Jerry Vasquez
A Unapologetic liberal
04:10 PM on 04/21/2011
It is not often that the words republican and fact collide in the same sentence. Their is no
substitute for a thoughtful plan, something that the right abhors. They have relied on sound bites and "bumper sticker slogans" for so long that they seemed to have not noticed that
with gasoline over $4's now, people are not doing much driving so their message is going nowhere.
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ghee99
03:40 PM on 04/21/2011
the dems fear a hostage situation?

what?!?

but they're the ones holding the american people hostage to their out of control spending
01:22 AM on 04/22/2011
Apart from the stimulus package, which most economists believe was necessary to prevent the economy from completely tanking in early 2009, exactly what "out of control spending" have the Democrats been up to?

It was Bush who began the two unfunded wars; it was Bush who passed the unfunded prescription drug plan. Those and the 2008 recession are the three biggest contributors to the current budget deficit (not to mention the Bush tax cuts).
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ghee99
03:53 AM on 04/22/2011
well, i agree with you that bush was a major over-spender

as for the democrat party and obama

the stimulus was "needed" we were told to "save" the economy

IF we passed it, and spent the trillion or so dollars, we were told, it would ensure that unemployment would not gove over 8 percent (remember when obama told us that?)
...and, when it finally went into effect, each job created (when divided against what we spent) cost $247,000

now, at with unemployment at essentially 10 percent (and in actually number its about 17 percent) we can see what the responsible spenders were saying all along, that the so-called "smilulus" was really just a massive pork-u-lus boondoggle

not to mention, even though bush started the two unnecessary wars

obama continues to keep us in them, and the dems continue to fund them as well

you wanna blame everything on bush
and he was terrible, for sure (on almost every level)
but he's been gone for years
and as much as he overspent
obama and the dems have been the ones mostly (or entirely) in charge the last few years

and spending has risen

and the deficit has grown

even when the republicans, flawed as they are, tried a couple weeks ago to cut spending a tiny bit, the dems fought them

finally both sides agreed to 40 billion in cuts

thats all well and good

but you do realize that our national debt grows by 40 billion EVERY two and a half days

we're gonna have to cut a lot more than 40 billion

and the dems better get on board or the country is in BIG trouble
03:28 PM on 04/21/2011
There is a vacumn in the Repub party given their fealty to the far right. Everyone is trying to out-do the next person to see how far right they can get. The end result is a mish mosh of people with no good ideas about anything. All they focus on is (1) birth certificates; (2) an immigration fence; (3) their opposition to gay rights and abortions and (4) lowering taxes for the wealthy. They will end up with one candidate from this mess whom no one with a brain will want to vote for.
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davegstein
06:35 AM on 04/22/2011
Yes,their currant gene pool is saddening.Hell,I've known crack heads with better grasp of economics,legislation,and basic governance.This currant pool of a dozen or so are like the "usual suspects" of asylum escapees....