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U.S. Flying Armed Drones Over Libya: Gates

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LOLITA C. BALDOR and ROBERT BURNS   04/21/11 06:17 PM ET   AP

WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama has approved the use of armed drones in Libya, authorizing U.S. airstrikes on ground forces for the first time since America turned over control of the operation to NATO on April 4.

It also is the first time that drones will be used for airstrikes since the conflict began on March 19, although they have routinely been flying surveillance missions, Defense Secretary Robert Gates told reporters at a Pentagon briefing Thursday.

He said the U.S. will provide up to two 24-hour combat air patrols each day by the unmanned Predators.

Marine Gen. James Cartwright, vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said the drones can help counteract the pro-Gadhafi forces' tactic of traveling in civilian vehicles that make it difficult to distinguish them from rebel forces.

"What they will bring that is unique to the conflict is their ability to get down lower, therefore to be able to get better visibility on targets that have started to dig themselves into defensive positions," Cartwright said. "They are uniquely suited for urban areas."

He added, "It's very difficult to pick friend from foe. So a vehicle like the Predator that can get down lower and can get IDs better helps us."

Gates rejected the notion that the approval of drone strikes means that the U.S. will slowly get pulled back into a more active combat role, despite Obama's promise to merely provide support for NATO.

U.S. forces played a lead role in the early days of the conflict, launching an onslaught of cruise missiles and bombs on Gadhafi's surface-to-air missiles sites and advancing regime troops.

But with American forces stretched by the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, as well as the humanitarian operations in Japan, the Pentagon turned the mission over to NATO, saying it would only do limited airstrikes to take out air defenses. The U.S., said Obama, would no longer do airstrikes to protect the civilian population.

Gates said that bringing in the Predators will give NATO a critical capability that the U.S. can uniquely contribute.

"I think this is a very limited additional role on our part, but it does provide some additional capabilities to NATO," said Gates. "And if we can make a modest contribution with these armed Predators, we'll do it. ... I don't think any of us sees that as mission creep."

He said Obama has been clear that there will be no U.S. boots on the ground and that the main strike role would belong to the allies.

The first Predator mission since Obama's go-ahead was flown Thursday but the aircraft – armed with Hellfire missiles – turned back due to poor weather conditions without firing any of its munitions, Cartwright said.

Gates, who publicly expressed skepticism about getting involved militarily in Libya before Obama endorsed the limited intervention, said "the real work" of overthrowing Moammar Gadhafi will have to be done by the Libyans themselves.

While he acknowledged the conflict "is likely to take a while," Gates also said the ongoing sanctions, arms embargo and NATO-led offensive have weakened Gadhafi's military and eaten away at his supplies and cash. Over the long term, Gates said, that will hurt the regime's ability to strike back at oppositions forces, if they rise up again in other cities.

At the same time, however, Gates said the administration's decision to provide $25 million in nonlethal military assistance to the rebels did not signal a deeper U.S. commitment to anti-Gadhafi forces whose makeup, objectives and motives are still not fully understood in Washington.

The aid, he said, is not high-end military equipment but rather a hodge-podge of things like uniforms and canteens.

"I'm not worried about our canteen technology falling into the wrong hands," he joked.

Asked how long he believes it will take the NATO-led air campaign to succeed, Gates replied, "The honest answer to that is, nobody knows."

In other comments, Gates did not rule out major military program cuts to meet Obama's goal to slash another $400 billion from the country's national security spending over the next 12 years. But he laid out some programs he believes are vital, including the new Air Force refueling tanker and the replacement of some Navy ships.

"The worst of all possible worlds, in my view, is to give the entire Department of Defense a haircut – basically (saying) everybody is going to cut X percent," Gates said, adding that he's had one meeting with staff on the issue.

Instead, he said the Pentagon must lay out options and the risks involved if particular cuts are made and how they would affect military missions.

He added that he does not know how much of the cut the Pentagon will be expected to take.

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12:44 AM on 04/28/2011
Obama approves drone strikes.... and some wealthy arab man writes a big check to AQ to hurt US...or some Afghani pilot shoots 9 americans
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Fred303
Let's Be Friends ^_^
04:43 AM on 04/24/2011
America has been interferin­g all over the world and getting in everyone's business. if they k!ll a citizen in another country they chalk it up to collateral damage.

We need a UN no-fly zone over America.
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Z-Liberator
Republicans are scared men of narrow vision,
09:56 PM on 04/23/2011
Drones over US next,
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OneFish
Various and assorted mutualistic microbial buddies
03:10 AM on 04/24/2011
already planned
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rjhuntington
left is right and right is wrong
08:21 AM on 04/23/2011
It's very sad to see so many Americans cheering US use of drones to wreak terror abroad from the sky. Shameful attitude. Where is the respect for life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness?
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rjhuntington
left is right and right is wrong
07:49 AM on 04/23/2011
Obama approves this. How sad. America is the Evil Empire, eagerly killing women and children abroad with terror from the sky. There's no bigger terrorist organization on the planet than the USA. Land of the what? Home of the what?

RIP
09:30 PM on 04/22/2011
10.5MIL PER DRONE...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
EITHER WE ARE NOT BROKE, POLITICIANS HAVE STOCK, THE BIGGEST CREDIT CARD LIMIT IN THE HISTORY OF MANKIND,
OR? I HATE TO THINK ABOUT THIS OPTION
Role/type Unmanned combat air vehicle
National origin United States
Manufacturer General Atomics Aeronautical Systems
First flight 2 February 2001
Primary users United States Air Force
U.S. Customs and Border Protection
Royal Air Force
Aeronautica Militare
Number built 57
Unit cost US$10.5 million for Reaper with sensors[1]
Developed from MQ-1 Predator
Developed into General Atomics Avenger
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rjhuntington
left is right and right is wrong
07:53 AM on 04/23/2011
Good point! How is it America can afford to buy ridiculously expensive killing machines while its own people are homeless, unemployed and uninsured??? There's going to be hell to pay when Americans finally put down the aspartame poison drinks, get their sorry behinds up off the couch, take to the streets, rip their rogue government out by the roots, and create a new one that serves the needs and interests of the people instead of corporations.
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Yeah-Me
Well... Just who else would I be? Palin?
11:13 AM on 04/23/2011
And the missiles are around 36k per shot... That's one expensive "bullet"...
09:04 PM on 04/22/2011
Drones? If history is any indication of the success?
then we can gain the hearts and minds of the Libyans
one dead child at a time, just like Afghanistan
08:47 PM on 04/22/2011
alabama cannot blame bush on his warmongering...!
Since when did America become involved in another country's civil war?
what about the legality? or is he using NATO as his excuse?
people out of work, no money, yet he finds drones at $1.99
WAKE UP PEOPLE THIS MAN IS SICK
AMERICA AND AMERICANS ARE PAYING THE PRICE!
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rjhuntington
left is right and right is wrong
08:00 AM on 04/23/2011
It's not just Obama, it's all of them (except a very small handful of honest people in Congress who can't get a bill to the floor). The international bankers OWN the US government. The own it. They've bought it outright at auction and pay handsome fees for it. Realize that every Treasury official of any weight in recent history was supplied by Goldman Sachs. Obama has no power. He has a choice, do what he is told or risk going the way of John Kennedy. He knows that. Who will stand up to them?
09:29 AM on 04/23/2011
The star chamber is alive...! I voted for JFK, 1st president I voted for. this alabama could never hope to be the man JFK was. JFK stood up...! alabama sits down, in the meantime The American JFK knew, no longer exists. I agree, who will stand up?
08:31 PM on 04/22/2011
Why do Leftist's keep saying that Bush/Cheney lied their way into Iraq?

Do they need evidence to the contrary?

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by:
-- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
-Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
--Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998



One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

Many more quotes if you'd like them.

Do Leftist's engage in Revisionist history?
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rjhuntington
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08:05 AM on 04/23/2011
Leftist keep saying that Bush/Cheney lied their way into war because it's true, they did. Everyone knows that now. What they also realize (finally) is that there is no difference between Bush and Obama, no difference between Republicans and Democrats. No difference except the way they do their hair, the way they pose, and the way they dupe their bases, Under the skin, where it counts the most, they are the same corporatist, greed-driven, bought-out, craven liars we ultimately know them to be. All of them, save a tiny handful who can't gain traction. What are we going to do about it?
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glenn113
07:58 PM on 04/22/2011
I guess Ghadafi didn't get the news about our drones.. Here he is again in his suv parading around like a king. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PjR8v1njsg d'oh
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Jokergirl
No joke actually, humor helps heal
12:28 AM on 04/23/2011
Just use a rocket launcher on Gaddafi's SUV for starters. Finish what Reagan did not. Gaddafi is a terrorist, he trains them, he finances them, he networks with them, get rid of him.
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rjhuntington
left is right and right is wrong
08:15 AM on 04/23/2011
Why do you say that Qaddafi is a terrorist? Where is the evidence of that? Instead of putting the country's oil revenues into his own packet, he spent the money on the most massive water project in African history. Because of that, Libyans have plenty of clean water. They also have free education and a liberal, literate society. They weren't complaining.

Where exactly did these rebels come from? Why are they funded by the international bankers (the same ones who brought America's economy to its knees)? Why not the Yemen rebels or the Bahrain rebels Is it because those rebels don't promise access to oil?

"Just use a rocket launcher..." Listen to yourself.
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rjhuntington
left is right and right is wrong
08:18 AM on 04/23/2011
"Gaddafi is a terrorist, he trains them, he finances them, he networks with them..."

Not any more. He fessed up about Lockerbie, paid for his crime, and changed his ways. He's done a lot for Libya. the big terrorists today are Israel and the United States.

Reagan only helped ruin America.
05:51 PM on 04/22/2011
Let he who is without sin cast the first drone.
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Foodgrade
Learn to grow banannas
04:23 PM on 04/22/2011
Keep them profit wars, outsourcing and bank fraud going. The corporations are busy turning death and suffering into wealth. Americans have been turned into neutered sheep, and managed domestic stock does not complain very often.
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Jokergirl
No joke actually, humor helps heal
12:31 AM on 04/23/2011
So you're saying we're all cattle now, that's a real comforting thought... The corporations have always been turning death and suffering into wealth, that's not a new route.
03:18 PM on 04/22/2011
You Libs are so funny. If this was Bush, you would be calling for his head on a platter
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glenn113
08:00 PM on 04/22/2011
For getting all of 5,000 of our kids killed in a war that was based on false intelligence...You bet.
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09:06 AM on 04/23/2011
Oh, so is it o.k., or is it "better", that Obama is only killing kids that from other countries? No head on a platter for that one?
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glenn113
01:12 PM on 04/22/2011
@Achim 5 hours ago (7:04 AM)
....... "frustratin­g - a democratic uprising refusing to be defeated"

The Response:

Frustration - NO, but AMAZED, on how people doesn't understand the current and future events in Libya will now be influenced not by them, but by some crook people for their own interest.

E.g In Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan and many more countries, their sovereignty is breached, civilians are killed, yet their governments are bounded and silenced because of indebtedness to their master and protector.

Same will happen to the National Transnational Council, which is already decided and guaranteed to win the so called First Election in FREE Libya with BIG SHOW on news channels receiving maximum coverage.

But after days passed on, we will hear less of Libya and their shattered dream of prosper and new difficulties because of corruption and mismanagement.

But this time, the world will be insulated from Libya's problem and NO ONE WILL CARE. And it happens to other countries before Libya and this will happen to them too.
01:47 PM on 04/22/2011
democrats like war too. power loves war. america can murder whoever it wants because it is the UN council. The UN is the United States. The league of nations failed, the UN is a failed institution, and americans have no representation in the UN. But they dont care, feed them hamburgers and american idol.
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01:03 PM on 04/22/2011
This is a brilliant strategy, amazing...Stifle Qaddafi's ability to kl his own people by eliminating them ourselves! Obama is just smarter than the rest of us..what a guy
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melchar
Stop the Genocide in Libya, Now!
01:23 AM on 04/23/2011
like hes doin in Pakistan. The guy's genius is just mindboggling.