Federal Deportation Program Nets Noncriminals

latimes.com:

Reporting from San Francisco and Los Angeles-- More than once, Norma recalls, she yearned to dial 911 when her partner hit her. But the undocumented mother of a U.S.-born toddler was too fearful of police and too broken of spirit to do so.

In October, she finally worked up the courage to call police -- and paid a steep price.

Officers who responded found her sobbing, with a swollen lower lip. But a red mark on her alleged abuser's cheek prompted police to book them both into the San Francisco County Jail while investigators sorted out the details.

Read the whole story: latimes.com

Comments

[DelawareBob]

10:41 PM on 04/27/2011

Deport them. End of story.

[OntheBorder]

12:56 AM on 04/27/2011

Don't just love the pro illegal alien mind set. Breaking the law by entering the US illegally is not a crime.

Round them all up and send them home where ever that is. If they want a better chance, let them fight to make their home country sucessful, all they do here is rob sucess from Americans.

[eventhorizon66]

01:35 AM on 04/27/2011

With the all the paid La Raza advocates and bleeding heart fringe types here, it's easier for them to come here, take advantage of our social services and take our jobs rather than fight for their country. Why would they put themselves out? Fanned & Fav'd/

[Adwoa Spencer]

11:33 PM on 04/26/2011

Perhaps people should familiarize themselves with the intent of the Secure Communities program before they comment. The program is supposed to deport those convicted of violent crimes. Period. If it is not doing that and only that, it is failing in its own mission and should be revised.

If, however, the intent is to find undocumented immigrants and deport them, then it should say that and do that.

I do not like being pissed on and told it's raining.

Lastly, I do not like the idea that someone who lives in my community, undocumented or not, would be afraid to call the police to get help for themselves or someone else, maybe myself because of this crappy program. Local police are supposed to be protecting and serving. This program does not make me feel safe. Quite the contrary.

[IllTakeTheRedEye]

10:29 AM on 05/01/2011

I do hope you realize that a noncrimnal is also someone that is lawfully arrested for a felony, but the charges are reduced, like Lindsay Lohan, to a misdemeanor. But ICE still has to deport someone that is in the USA without authorization from the USA government.
 
You can be lawfully arrested for many misdemeanors as well, google misdemeanors and you will see. There are varying degrees of misdemeanors, the highest levels of which are very serious, but may be considered noncriminal. If found guilty, you will serve your sentence and later be deported.
 
A noncriminal is also someone that may have been found not guilty of the crime they were initially lawfully arrested for, but that does not mean they are innocent of being inside the USA as an illegal alien.
 
ICE must deport a noncriminal, because it really does not matter if ICE Secure Communities netted someone that was found not guilty for the crime they were lawfully arrested for. ICE is supposed to deport illegal aliens, no matter who the program may accidentally come across

[D-Driller]

06:14 PM on 04/25/2011

I read the entire article, and couldn't find anything about "noncriminals" being deported in it. They were all illegals, so all criminals, obviously. Why run a headline that has nothing to do with the story?

[Viper1st]

06:49 PM on 04/25/2011

Technically, not a criminal until arrested, booked, &/or found / plead guilty to an unlawful act.

Living unlawfully in the USA is not a criminal act ~ until caught & convicted

Until then ~ it's being a "fugitive" from U.S. Federal Law

[D-Driller]

06:56 PM on 04/25/2011

Good point.

[Puzzlr]

09:23 PM on 04/25/2011

Sorry, but you just admitted that it was a criminal act, when you used the term 'unlawfully'. Unlawfully is the opposite of lawfully. See how that works? It doesn't matter if one has been arrested, booked and/or found/plead guilty.

Now the first person who came here without following the law can be excused. But everyone flowing into this country since knows that they are committing a criminal act. Why else would they stay in the shadows? Why would they use illegal means to get here? Because they know.

Btw, a fugitive has been arrested, booked and/or found/plead guilty. Notice the wanted posters?

[picaman]

05:11 PM on 04/25/2011

In this time of record unemployment and economic hardship for millions of Americans we call on Congress to institute an immediate moratorium on, and investigation of abuses of, the U.S. Guest Worker Visa programs commonly referred to as H1 and H2 visa programs.

These programs, intended as stop-gap measures to fill needed positions in specialty areas have been abused through loopholes to eliminate American workers and replace them with a permenant pool of lower paid foreign "guest" workers.

Sign the Petition at Change.org
http://www.change.org/petitions/stop-giving-away-american-jobs

[admrob]

03:35 PM on 04/25/2011

Do I feel bad for her? Of course I do. Does it change my feeling that she should be deported? Nope.

[FranklinCat]

04:16 PM on 04/25/2011

That says nothing about the issue, but a lot about you.

[dtairtime]

05:02 PM on 04/25/2011

Yep - that rob has common sense. And also knows we can't possibly allow anyone who manages to get here illegally, break several of our laws, pop out an anchor that taxpayers have to pay for and avoid detection for years as a test for citizenship.

[ShowMeC6]

09:47 AM on 04/26/2011

I agree with admrob, I guess we are just a couple of mean guys for wishing to see immigration laws enforced....so mean....

[FranklinCat]

02:53 PM on 04/25/2011

There will be no justice until employers are REGULARLY punished as severely as the undocumented workers are. There will be no justice until poverty wages are made illegal. There will be no justice until international trade agreements favor labor as much as capital. The present system encourages low wages in this country and low wages in Mexico and Central America. The present system favors the distribution of wealth to the economically elite in this country and in Mexico and Central America.

[Viper1st]

03:19 PM on 04/25/2011

And ~ if U.S. Federal Immigration Laws, on the books since 1986, were enforced ~ there would be no injustice having to be dealt with.

[FranklinCat]

03:32 PM on 04/25/2011

Except for all of the injustices I listed.

[ShowMeC6]

09:51 AM on 04/26/2011

....I'll agree with you on one point, punish employers who knowingly hire illegal aliens....less incentive equals less illegal aliens.

[GravitonX]

02:29 PM on 04/25/2011

Later.

Been fun.

[FuriaRoja]

02:32 PM on 04/25/2011

Great job with the responses. F&F!

[CelticMajic]

07:22 PM on 04/25/2011

Do you applaud the use of name calling or disrespecting those disagreed with? Do you agree with calling other posters racists, bigots, or saying "We'll will end your r acist anglo problem" or suggesting that someone "kiss my *** ". Is that what you F&F?

[fowarddownthefield2]

02:11 PM on 04/25/2011

They are all criminals. The law remains unchanged, despite the immaculate election.

[GravitonX]

02:15 PM on 04/25/2011

So you've never had a speeding ticket, criminal?

[fowarddownthefield2]

04:46 PM on 04/25/2011

Not sure what your point is, but mine was that the article's title referred to "non-criminal" illegal aliens, which is impossible as they are all criminals and yes, a misdemeanor is a crime.

[D-Driller]

06:19 PM on 04/25/2011

The penalty for a speeding ticket is a fine. The penalty for being in the country illegaly is deportation. Seems fair enough, and I agree with you - people need to pay for their crimes, as you pointed out to Forward.

[CelticMajic]

02:17 PM on 04/25/2011

Please continue with this offensive rhetoric. It speaks volumes about you and your position on this issue.

[GravitonX]

02:19 PM on 04/25/2011

You want some cheese with that whine? Quit btching a nd moaning;)

[FuriaRoja]

02:28 PM on 04/25/2011

I agree. They are toxic.

[CAhye]

01:57 PM on 04/25/2011

why is it not a crime to break the immigration laws? i have never understood that

[GravitonX]

02:00 PM on 04/25/2011

It's a misdemeanor.

Next.

[MsGray]

02:03 PM on 04/25/2011

A misdemeanor is a crime.

[CAhye]

02:03 PM on 04/25/2011

ah so the title is wrong, thanks for clearing that up ;)

[RobietheCat]

01:08 AM on 04/27/2011

It is a crime.

Get deported and do it a second, and you are a felon.

Why would you take the risk to become a felon.....unless you already were on the lam?

[CAhye]

01:56 PM on 04/25/2011

immigration reform is constantly made into a racial issue by the left instead of being a political issue. the sad truth is that it is both a political and racial issue and the 2 can not be seperated. The problem is that the overwhelming majority of the illegal immigrants that the border states are referring to are hispanic. its just a fact. That however does not change the fact there there is a major problem with illegal immigration in these states. So what can we do lefties? how can this not be "the GOP against mexicans" and instead be the US v illegal aliens?

[jd2408]

05:10 PM on 04/25/2011

Keep your eyes open CAhye. It already is US v illegal aliens. It's just that those in favor of open borders want others to think its not and lay it all on one party. Many American citizens of both parties and Independents feel the same way. To be very honest most of us do not blame the illegals. It is our government under Multi National Corporation control and the Mexican government's influence that is allowing this. The people are just their pawns.

[RobietheCat]

01:09 AM on 04/27/2011

This is the fundamental issue to bring common cause to many oppressed American Citizens.

Fundamental.

[GravitonX]

01:53 PM on 04/25/2011

Immigration (and I'm including the forced "immigration" of Black Americans) made America "successful."

We should all be proud and wave the flag!!!

Mom and Apple pie;)

God Bless America and no one else!!!

[GravitonX]

01:54 PM on 04/25/2011

hrpmap You never say us we our, just you Americans, sounds fishy.

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Happy? I used "we";)

[hrpmap]

02:28 PM on 04/25/2011

That'sbetter!!

[ShowMeC6]

10:02 AM on 04/26/2011

....Black Americans, are still (generally speaking, other than newly arrived and hopefully legal immigrants from Africa, Dominican Republic, Cuba, etc.) Americans. As such was the 14th Amendment made for....

[GravitonX]

01:49 PM on 04/25/2011

hrpmap You never say us we our, just you Americans, sounds fishy.

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Simple. I'm NOT a white American.

[CelticMajic]

01:52 PM on 04/25/2011

Please explain in great detail what you think of white Americans.

[MsGray]

02:04 PM on 04/25/2011

He's a racist. He hates white people. He thinks all white people should be deported - he said so.
Thought I'd help you out there Grav. You're welcome.

[brookmo]

01:35 PM on 04/25/2011

Young lady, do yourself and this country a favor and go home to your country of origin. Laws are laws. I sorry your partner beat you and he should be punished for that. However, you broke the law as well in coming here illegally so you should suffer the consequences as well. QUIT WHINING AND GO HOME!

[MsGray]

02:05 PM on 04/25/2011

If she left, she'd be doing all U.S. taxpayers a favor.

[RobietheCat]

01:15 AM on 04/27/2011

We cannot be the policeman of the world.

We also cannot be the lifeboat of a world of 7 BILLION PEOPLE.

If you think we can, I would like to hear your proposals........