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New Hampshire GOP Primary Election Not Just A Republican Party

New Hampshire Primary Election 2012

HOLLY RAMER   04/25/11 03:21 AM ET   AP

CONCORD, N.H. — At fundraising dinner after dinner, state Republican Party Chairman Jack Kimball earns loud applause when he declares that New Hampshire will send forward "a good strong conservative nominee for the presidency of the United States."

But it won't be just Republicans who pick a winner in the first-in-the-nation presidential primary next year.

Independent voters, who make up nearly 42 percent of registered voters in the state, can participate in either party's primary. And, given that President Barack Obama has no serious Democratic challenger, most independents are expected to cast ballots in the GOP race next February, unlike in the last presidential campaign.

That means Republican White House hopefuls who have been courting Republicans at party fundraising dinners and holding private meetings with tea party activists will have to branch out: beyond talking about things like the Declaration of Independence and conservative Republican talking points. They'll also have to talk to New Hampshire independents.

"The discourse so far here in New Hampshire really mirrors the very conservative discourse we're hearing with the tea party and among conservative elites around the country," said political analyst Dean Spiliotes. "The question is, how much of that is going to appeal to independents?"

Independent voters in the "Live Free or Die" state are notorious for, well, being independent. And sometimes so much so that they've helped upend presidential primary contests.

In 2008, more chose to vote in the Democratic primary between Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton than in the sleepier GOP contest between a slew of Republican contenders. Exit polls showed that 6 in 10 independents voted in the Democratic contest. Although Obama won more independent votes, they contributed to the coalition Clinton stitched together to stage a comeback victory after a disastrous Iowa defeat. Independents also were critical to Republican John McCain's victory here, which set him on the path to winning the GOP nomination.

Four years earlier, the Democratic primary took center stage because President George W. Bush faced only token opposition on the Republican ballot. More than 75 percent of the ballots cast in the New Hampshire primary that year were on the Democratic side, and according to exit polls, nearly half of those voting in the Democratic primary were registered as independents.

That suggests potentially heavy independent participation in next year's Republican primary, which is tentatively set for Feb. 14, 2012.

Also, a University of New Hampshire Survey Center poll in February found about 40 percent of independents – or "undeclared" as they're called here – said they plan to vote in the Republican primary, about 30 percent said they plan to vote in the Democratic primary, even though it's not expected to be contested, and 30 percent weren't sure.

Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney led the field in that poll. But it means little; nearly 80 percent of likely GOP primary voters said they were still making up their minds. And independents tend to wait longer than others to pick a candidate, sometimes as late as Election Day.

Many Republican hopefuls, including former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum, dismiss questions about whether they're focusing too much on GOP voters in the state, saying their messages will resonate because independents appreciate fiscal conservatism as much as Republicans.

In a visit to the state last week, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich ticked off the high costs of gasoline and heating oil, joblessness and budget-busting spending and said: "I think there are a lot of independent voters who have an interest in those kinds of real, substantive issues, and I would try to appeal to them" with suggested solutions.

Like Gingrich, former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty argues that his record on taxes and spending will appeal to independents as well as Republicans. But he says that as a former governor of a Democratic-leaning state, he has an edge over other candidates because he has proven he can reach beyond his party to win.

"I have not just the rhetoric of saying I can or will do this, but I've actually done it," Pawlenty said in a phone interview, adding that he's mindful that the New Hampshire primary will include independents. "I welcome that."

Still, the challenges for the Republican candidates are great because independent voters by nature are a fickle bunch.

Just ask Ron Morse, an independent from the town of Weare.

He voted for Clinton in the 2008 primary and Obama in the general election but isn't hot on anyone this time and doesn't know what he will do come 2012.

"I switch when it feels right. Right now, I don't feel the president's doing a good job," said Morse, 60, as he had breakfast at a Manchester diner recently when Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour stopped by. "There's nobody so far that I want to vote for." He said he "definitely" wouldn't back Romney. "And definitely not that Alaskan chick," he said, referring to former Alaskan Gov. Sarah Palin.

It turns out that Barbour doesn't sit well with him either; Morse said he was annoyed that Barbour brushed off his concerns about potential cuts to Medicare and Social Security.

Wayne Gagne, a co-chairman of the "New Hampshire Independents for McCain Coalition," in 2008, said last week he doesn't know which primary he'll vote in next year, though he, too, has ruled out Romney and Palin, and Gingrich, too. He thinks Obama is on the right track on health care, but he has friends who think highly of Pawlenty, and he likes the way Donald Trump thinks.

"Sometimes he thinks like me: just get it done. He's right to the point, and I like that feature in anybody, frankly," said Gagne, 60, a retired locomotive engineer from Nashua, said of Trump. "But how will he do politically in the world's problems? I don't know. Nothing impresses me yet."

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CONCORD, N.H. — At fundraising dinner after dinner, state Republican Party Chairman Jack Kimball earns loud applause when he declares that New Hampshire will send forward "a good strong conserva...
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AbeMartin 10:52 AM on 04/25/2011
"AbeMartin for President"

If my information (http://www.nh.gov/nhinfo/genesis.html) is correct, the filing fee for the Republican Presidential primary is only $1000.00.  That means that for only 1/34,000,000 of the amount of the Federal Budget cuts Congress of Clowns have projected to save our Republic  Read More...
ruburnt
Live Free or Die....
09:38 AM on 04/26/2011
Gotta love New Hampshire, it's the Arizona of the east coast.....
03:37 AM on 04/26/2011
The New Hampshire primary should be fun to watch next year since the focus will be on who will run against Obama next year, which at this point in time could be anyone. My guess is that it will be the next President of th USA.
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12:44 AM on 04/26/2011
To all New Hampshire independents: please, please, please vote for Trump!
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12:30 AM on 04/26/2011
"Of all the varieties of virtues, liberalism is the most beloved".........Aristotle
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12:43 AM on 04/26/2011
I assume you are quoting from the Nichomachean Ethics, book IV?
"and the liberal are almost the most loved of all excellent characters, since they are useful" (1120a23).
It should be pointed out that Aristotle is talking about those who are generous with their own money. Public largesse was not part of ancient Greek politics.
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12:48 AM on 04/26/2011
Michael, I got this quote from "Famous quotes" I typed it word for word.
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KeyInfo
Realist
08:46 PM on 04/25/2011
Time is running out for the GOP to pick a nominee. I think they should start eliminating those that are embarrassments. Palin, Bauchman, Trump and then you have the ones that need to be eliminated simply for appearance sake. Can you imagine Chris Christie running? He's got to weigh over 400 lbs. He really needs to take a leave of absence and get on "The Biggest Loser". How ironic!
ruburnt
Live Free or Die....
09:36 AM on 04/26/2011
REALLY?? If one were to judge a candidate strictly by looks than how did we end up with Obama? His ears stick out so far from his head that he kind of reminds me of Dumbo...
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thepoliticalcat
Eradicate your microbioflora
06:09 PM on 04/25/2011
Hmmm ... why am I not hearing wild enthusiasm on the part of prospective GOP voters at all this year? If anything, they seem to be decidedly *un*fond of the party mavens' leading light, Mittens Romneycare. How sad.
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AggieReal
Nothing fails like prayer. Do something.
09:28 PM on 04/25/2011
True ..maybe they'll go with a surprise from nowhere maverick ? If so, like with Palin we'll likely see a lot of initial excitement and then a nosedive in the polls. Otherwise, I can't see any excitement over any of the known prospects.. they could all be summed up as losers before the race even begins.
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05:27 PM on 04/25/2011
Reading all these posts gives me a good feeling that we Democrats and Independents don't have anything to worry about. Obama will win.
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madHenry
11:18 PM on 04/25/2011
Absent a HUGE figurative explosion somewhere, it's pretty much in the bag for Obama 2012. Romney is ... the guy who done Seamus wrong. Huckabee is a'housebuildin'. Pawlenty is Paul Ryan without the "charm?" Palin, Bachmann, Trump, Paul I, Paul II, ... they're the novelty, would-be candaidates who will soak a lot of contributors for millions of dollars, but never stand a chance of winning even theior party's nomination. The real question for 2012, especially after GOPer state legislatures redraw congressional districts, is whether a significant portion of the American electorate will turn out a good number of the TEAGOPers in the House and elect a couple more Dems to the Senate. The question going forward is "So, congressperson, where do you stand on the Ryan budget? How about "death panels?" How about death panels in the Ryan budget; for or ag'in?
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FreedToChoose
...excepting when I'm not.
04:23 PM on 04/25/2011
Hee-hee-hee...
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Catch 22
Plan for Mid to Long Term.
03:42 PM on 04/25/2011
Seems as thaugh Barbour has made it official. He's out.
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thepoliticalcat
Eradicate your microbioflora
06:09 PM on 04/25/2011
Sort of a foregone conclusion when you can't get more than four per cent of the voters wee-wee'd up about your candidacy, I reckon.
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VietVet67
I wore the uni for this?
03:30 PM on 04/25/2011
MSNBC just "rolled" out the news that Haley Barbour will not be a candidate for president.
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iconoclast6
This is my BOOM stick!
03:42 PM on 04/25/2011
Playing my violin.
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NYC07
Ceci n'est pas un micro-bio
03:49 PM on 04/25/2011
Now the rest of them will be scrambling to secure the r a c i s t vote.
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kareemachan
watashi ha tororu ga oroka da to omoi masu。
02:37 PM on 04/25/2011
FTA:

'Independent voters, who make up nearly 42 percent of registered voters in the state, can participate in either party's primary. And, given that President Barack Obama has no serious Democratic challenger, most independents are expected to cast ballots in the GOP race next February, unlike in the last presidential campaign.'

We could do this in WA as well until the political parties (Libertarians included - care to explain THAT one to me, libertarians?) took it to court to prevent this. Said it infringed on their rights. This is why I do not and never will belong to a political party. I lean liberal - no doubt about it - but the Dems really burned us on this one.

Slightly off-topic, but I'm still pi$$ed about the whole thing. Grrrr.
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iconoclast6
This is my BOOM stick!
02:48 PM on 04/25/2011
We don't have it in CA either. The Repyoobies were careful to keep POTUS out of the state's open primary law. And thatsucks, because I would definitely vote the least viable Tea0Pee candidate, just to ba11ocks things up a bit.
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03:20 PM on 04/25/2011
I'm an Independent, and by no means will I vote Republican. I don't want to be tied to one party or the other. I will vote for whom I think will best do the job for the American People, and I did vote for Obama, and will again. He's doing just fine.
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Osmona
Its GREAT to be alive and SANE.
03:37 PM on 04/25/2011
Totally AGREE with you. I'm sticking with President Obama.

F & F
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iconoclast6
This is my BOOM stick!
02:35 PM on 04/25/2011
The Donald's not just all tycoony
With birthers he's been quite a hit
But his interview skills are _buffoony
And his vote record's nothing but
Shaving cream!
Be nice and clean!
Shave every day and you'll always look keen!
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03:22 PM on 04/25/2011
Hey me poet. Good job
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Morpheus Red Tour
I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes
02:23 PM on 04/25/2011
Romney is Obama's greatest threat and the Left is doing everything to stop Mitt Romney. The
result is forging the Tea Party and Evangelicals into Romney's camp. It is the polls that are
proving this.
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02:24 PM on 04/25/2011
Polls don't prove squat. Votes do.
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iconoclast6
This is my BOOM stick!
02:24 PM on 04/25/2011
"It's a Gas"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5J-LvMxKvFY
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02:26 PM on 04/25/2011
Hadn't heard that in years! Thanks!
03:20 PM on 04/25/2011
Per- burp- fect!
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02:23 PM on 04/25/2011
A bunch of cons trying to out-con each other. Hilarious.