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China Warns U.S. Against 'Interference' Ahead Of Rights Talks

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First Posted: 04/26/11 10:11 AM ET Updated: 06/26/11 06:12 AM ET

BEIJING (Reuters) – The Chinese government warned on Tuesday against using human rights disputes as what it called a tool to meddle, ahead of talks with the United States that will focus on complaints about Beijing's crackdown on dissent.

The two-day-long human rights dialogue, from Wednesday, with U.S. Assistant Secretary for Democracy, Human Rights and Labor Michael Posner and other Washington officials, will come at a sensitive time over the issue, long a sore point with Beijing.

Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Hong Lei said his government was willing to discuss rights issues with the United States as equals. But he warned against what Beijing sees as Western over-reaching.

"When it comes to differences between China and the United States over human rights, the two sides can enhance mutual understanding on a basis of equality and mutual respect," Hong told a regular news conference.

"We oppose any country using human rights issues as an excuse to interfere in China's domestic affairs."

China's position augurs little movement from the talks in Beijing. China has jailed, detained or placed in secretive informal custody dozens of dissidents, human rights lawyers and protesters it fears will challenge Communist Party rule, drawing an outcry from Washington and other Western capitals.

Beijing police have also detained or placed under house arrest members of a Protestant "house" church who have tried to worship outside after they were evicted from the rented premises they had been using.

The U.S. State Department has said it wants to discuss with China "the recent negative trend of forced disappearances, extralegal detention, and arrests and convictions".

U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said earlier this month that she was "deeply concerned" about China's clampdown and cited "negative trends", including the detention of Chinese artist and human rights activist Ai Weiwei.

Ai, 53, was detained on April 3 as he was about to board a flight to Hong Kong from Beijing. Chinese police said Ai, a critic of China's ruling Communist Party, was under investigation for "suspected economic crimes".

Hong dismissed foreign criticism of the detention of Ai.

"China does not fear the antagonism of other countries, but of course I hope the countries concerned and their publics will be patient in waiting the outcome of the public security investigation into Ai Weiwei," he said.

Ai's sister, Gao Ge, told Reuters that she hoped pressure from the United States would help free her brother, who she said was being persecuted for his outspoken activism.

"Of course I really hope that Weiwei's case is bought up, that he is supported," she said of the rights dialogue. "I think the whole world is paying attention."

(Additional reporting by Ben Blanchard; Editing by Alex Richardson)

GROZNY, Russia (Reuters) -- The spiritual leaders of Muslim Chechnya have ordered that all couples who plan to marry prove they are HIV-negative, sparking outrage from activists and residents who say it violates Russian law.

A decade after Moscow drove separatists from power in the second of two wars, Chechnya rests on a shaky peace. Spiritual leaders are gaining influence and power in the region, leading analysts to say Chechnya is evolving towards autonomy once again.

"Any potential bride or groom is obliged to receive a medical certificate proving they are HIV-negative," the Chechen mufti's press service said in a statement this week.

An imam can only approve of a marriage once the HIV-negative certificate is obtained. "Only an official representative from the republic's clergymen has that right," the statement added.

Russia's crippling heroin crisis means it is facing an explosive HIV/AIDS epidemic -- the United Nations says at least 1 million people are HIV-positive -- though Chechnya has been little affected by it.

The order comes after the mufti and other spiritual heads demanded last year a total shutdown of all eateries during the holy month of Ramadan and ordered bands of armed men to harass women who did not wear headscarves.

The mufti's orders have no legal weight but are generally followed because he is a respected spiritual leader and because of his ties to Chechnya's hardline leader Ramzan Kadyrov.

"This is, of course, not within Russian law," said Minkail Ezhiev, a human rights worker and founder of the Chechen Civil Society Forum. "We wish human rights were taken into account here," he told Reuters in Grozny.

The Kremlin relies on Kadyrov, who fought against the Russians in the first war but then switched sides, to maintain order in the violent region in the North Caucasus, where an Islamist insurgency is raging.

But rights workers and analysts say Kadyrov's methods to tame the region include a crackdown on opponents and imposing his radical view of Islam. Kadyrov has dismissed the claims as attempts to blacken his name.

"I fully support the wish to protect people but there is too much power falling into certain hands," said Zelim, a Grozny resident in his early 20s. (Writing by Amie Ferris-Rotman; editing by Noah Barkin)

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frank day
Obama cares about all of U.S.
04:35 PM on 04/27/2011
According to Amnesty International, china is holding over 300,000 dissidents in work camps.

http://www.asianews.it/news-en/China:-Work-camps-constitute-detention-without-trial-3334.html

To equate the U.S. to Chinese Totalitarian Terror is disgusting.
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Dennis NJ
08:58 AM on 04/28/2011
According to Amnesty International Mumia Abu-Jamal is innocent.
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Pod-gers
Jeremy Lin = Game Change
04:42 PM on 05/01/2011
Amnesty has failed to champion Leonard Peliter.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_Peltier
11:57 AM on 04/27/2011
"We oppose any country using human rights issues as an excuse to interfere in China's domestic affairs."

Of course they do. They jail anyone who doesn't kow-tow to the government.
03:53 PM on 04/27/2011
The fundamental question is, does USA has the moral right to do that? If USA is practicing one thing and preach (self-imposed preacher, mind you) others on another thing, what is the validity of such an interference, regardless of the topic at hand?
03:56 PM on 04/27/2011
If the validity of such interference is null and void, and such an interference continues, then the second question is, what is the intention for continuing such interference?
11:54 AM on 04/28/2011
What are you going on about?.
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frank day
Obama cares about all of U.S.
10:10 AM on 04/27/2011
China is not ruled by law.

It is a totalitarian regime controlled by the CCP.

They fear any discussion of Rights.
03:30 PM on 04/27/2011
As if USA is actually "rule by law"

No! It is rule by money.
01:05 PM on 04/28/2011
Don't be hysterical. It is rule by law.
09:41 AM on 04/27/2011
US, get your nose out of China!!!

US's hypocritical stance on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, invasion of Iraq, treatment of Bradley Manning, suppression of investigation of military abuses on the war front, treatment of Muslims in this country, imbalance/insulting treatment of the protests on Bahrain, Yemen, Tunisia, Syria, etc., etc., is despicable.
We're just inviting more hatred.
11:56 AM on 04/27/2011
Certain people will always hate those that stand up for others.
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JoeBlough
The Horror. . .The Horror. . .
12:45 AM on 04/27/2011
Considering that China holds a lot of our dept and could demand payment at any time, I'd go a little easy with the threats. China has the upper hand.
07:10 AM on 04/27/2011
That is not correct.
07:38 AM on 04/27/2011
The debt means nothing. It is just a number. We can easily pay them back with more quantitative easing (that is not even paper printing, just increasing number in a computer).

What really matter is the FUTURE of continuing the same thing: how can we make sure the Chinese continue shipping their resource and hard labor (in the form of finished products) to US so we can distribute that REAL TANGIBLE wealth among our 300 million subjects of the US Empire. Without that crucial continuing feeding, the US Empire may come crumbling down.

You can not stick a gun to China because they also have some pretty impressive big guns (maybe not as fashionable as ours but lethal enough). So the best way is to keep raising the human rights, keep sending in drones of point men to disturb their society, keep flushing them with "hot money" (read: more printed US money). The signal is quite clear: IF YOU DON'T KEEP SENDING US YOUR GOODS, WE WILL KEEP MESSING WITH YOU. YOU WANT US QUIET AND STOP MEDDLING WITH YOUR INTERNAL AFFAIRS, YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO!
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Kamen Gullberg
12:22 AM on 04/27/2011
The U.S. warns China that they might interfere with rights talk.
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MikeyJaii
Free $$ For Everyone.
10:15 PM on 04/26/2011
If there's a decent amount of people protesting in China. U.S wouldn't think twice to interfere.
11:52 PM on 04/26/2011
Fortunately, China has enough nukes to keep US at bay....it all keeps us safe by preventing WH to engage in another military misadvenure
02:16 AM on 04/27/2011
Keeps who safe?.I sure have no love for China.
09:46 AM on 04/27/2011
Ah, now, we have a "new" enemy. USSR is gone.

Soon, we'll be accelerating development of weapons --- from outer space, land, sea, air -- even in our own mental "inner space".
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Jeremy Lin = Game Change
04:25 PM on 05/01/2011
True. But the vast majority of people of China do not want their struggles acted out in the streets anymore.
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EdwardMRoche
10:04 PM on 04/26/2011
The problem with the current situation in the Middle East is that is is becoming less fashionable for a government to use its own military to shoot its own citizens, as this may invite outside intervention. China needs to maintain a strict policy that reserves the power legitimately to use military force including state sanctioned murder in order to preserve the greater good of stability for the society as a whole. As a consequence, China can never agree with policies that allow intervention from outside a country in order to save innocent civilians from being murdered by their own government. China is ruled by a political party, not by law. Since this political party has a monopoly on state sanctioned use of force, any challenge to that use of force is a threat to the party. In any case, the Chinese people will decide this themselves, no matter what outsiders say.
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greeneyes51654m
Retired, finally...
12:04 AM on 04/27/2011
I agree, fanned!
09:56 PM on 04/26/2011
According to a recent nationwide survey for people's happiness, 70% of the Chinese people said they were miserable and not happy! Only 11% of the population declared they were happy.
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frank day
Obama cares about all of U.S.
10:09 AM on 04/27/2011
I read that study too.

The 11% were all CCP members.

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Dennis NJ
11:04 AM on 05/04/2011
I heard on Dan Rather Reports that 77% of the Chinese polled said they are with their lives, jobs and the government.
09:38 PM on 04/26/2011
The crux of the US-China relationship must rest of business, not social issues. China is an illiberal society and has a culture deeply influenced by Confucian thought - read obedience. China is slow to change culturally, but it will as more attain wealth and worldly experiences. Though the States should call out China on its hypocrisy of the release its own 'human rights report on the US' after it (China) told the US not to do the same thing. There is so much to gain from the Sino-US relationship, social issues will get in the way.
09:16 PM on 04/26/2011
Probably you don't understand what CCP really means. It means a casual remark in public alone will court disaster, it means a young man was sentenced to a year and half forced-labor prison term simply because he picked up a bunch of jasmine flower in front of the Mcdonald in downtown Beijing, and it means the innocent Buddhist monks in Tibet are surrounded by the armored vanguards of the CCP's army. This regime kills the people for pleasure.
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StopThePlanet
Outlaw stupidity and only outlaws will be stupid
08:40 PM on 04/26/2011
The US has lost all credibility on this issue.  Abu Ghraib, Gitmo, secret CIA renditions, waterboarding and now the imprisonment of Bradley Manning. These things all cede whatever moral high ground we had in the past.
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hershobr
09:03 PM on 04/26/2011
Incorrect. We do not murder our own citizens, have secret police, and censor our peoples books and internet like countries like China do.
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09:17 PM on 04/26/2011
You are right. We don't have "secret police", they murder citizens quite openly and with impunity.
11:54 PM on 04/26/2011
Secret police here is called FBI...do same job as security services abroad ...catch Black Panthers. Puerto Rican "fighters for freedom", real or imagined Muslim terrorists
09:30 PM on 04/26/2011
Sure the United States is not the honest broker of peace and humanity it has claimed to be, but then when its history has it been. When we had slaves, took some land from a few Natives, or when we did our internment camps. All these, and I am sure many more moments in the US history we can look back and say "What the F#$%". But, I do not see how that means we have no right to draw attention the things going on in China, nor to the fact that you can not see the US is different than China. Hell, just the fact that you can write the thing you do without arrest is fact enough.
shylove2
warfare state is pathological
08:34 PM on 04/26/2011
No one wants to bring up illegal war though... what's the deal, lots of access to oil to go around.. what about the patriot act and guantanamoo.. or the Chinese Embassy missiled once upon a time... the glass house are becoming moe glassy all the time... sorry that China has to use Tibet like we did the Native Americans but we set the standard with western colonialization didn't we but maybe they could learn not to emulate us.... even Hawaii wasn't sacred from armed bandits... and what was that about just saving civilians in Libya for instance... the western powers seem dead set on throwing hypocracy in the name of democrazy in everyone's face...
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Connor Alexander
It must be confusing but I'm not lft, rght or cntr
07:57 PM on 04/26/2011
China's stance on human rights: "We're going to beat you with this stick." China then proceeds to beat you with a stick.

U.S. stance on human rights: "We would never beat someone with a stick and we don't condone others doing it." The U.S. then proceeds to beat you with a stick.
08:21 PM on 04/26/2011
lol!!.

You think China doesn't lie and obfuscate about it's human rights record?.

Seriously?.
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Jeremy Lin = Game Change
04:28 PM on 05/01/2011
ROFL

You think America doesn't lie and obfuscate about it's human right's record?

Seriously?
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Amryxx
politeness rules, but with sharpened edges
08:47 PM on 04/26/2011
Well played, sir and/or ma'am.
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Amryxx
politeness rules, but with sharpened edges
07:34 PM on 04/26/2011
"When it comes to differences between China and the United States over human rights, the two sides can enhance mutual understanding on a basis of equality and mutual respect"

Translation: you shut up about our treatment of protesters, and we won't talk about Guantanamo, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc.
07:23 AM on 04/27/2011
It is about right.