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House Republicans Lining Up Sweeping Cuts For Debt Limit Vote


First Posted: 04/27/11 08:07 PM ET Updated: 06/27/11 06:12 AM ET

WASHINGTON -- House Republican leaders are zeroing in on the package of massive spending cuts and reforms they plan to attach to next month’s vote to raise the debt limit.

The pieces being considered for the package include a mix of hard discretionary spending caps, substantial cuts to mandatory spending, a reduction in federal government hires and a fail-safe “trigger” option that would force additional cuts if Medicaid reforms or spending cuts are not enacted by a certain date.

A House GOP leadership aide told The Huffington Post on Wednesday that the package is “not final by any stretch,” but that its key pieces are coming into focus.

The aide gave some specifics: a provision related to federal government attrition, which would limit one government hire for every two that retire, is already looking "likely." On the trigger, the senior staffer said Republicans are planning to put forward a "more effective" option than what was proposed by the Senate's "Gang of Six,” the bipartisan group hammering out a deal on deficit reduction. As for spending cuts, expect the kinds of discretionary spending caps and “real” cuts to mandatory spending outlined in the House GOP budget put forward by Budget Chairman Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), added the aide. That proposal lays out $6.2 trillion in cuts over the next decade.

“We will make clear that real, actual cuts that get enacted into law are required -- not the promise of future cuts by a future Congress,” said the leadership aide. “Anything else is a non-starter.”

The Obama administration has yet to signal real support for tying spending cuts to a vote on the debt limit, although the two will almost certainly be paired in order to secure GOP votes for raising the debt ceiling. The U.S. will reach its congressional-imposed $14.29 trillion borrowing limit by May 16 unless lawmakers act before then.

At Tuesday’s White House briefing, Press Secretary Jay Carney, seemingly unprompted, touted the president’s preference for a fail-safe trigger over hard caps on spending or a balanced budget amendment. When asked by The Huffington Post on Wednesday whether Obama would be comfortable with the proposal being tied to the debt limit vote, Carney reiterated that it would be dangerous to "hold hostage" such a vote "to any other piece of legislation.”

Pressed further, he refused to discuss ongoing discussions. “I'm not negotiating individual pieces of a package that we hope Republicans and Democrats can come together around from this podium,” Carney said.

In private, administration aides are similarly coy, though Democratic officials familiar with the discussions say that -- out of precaution -- the party has begun discussing potential addendums to debt ceiling legislation that would be palatable for other party members.

"The triggers that Obama proposed is what is assumed the White House will propose,” said one top Democratic operative briefed on the congressional talks. "The key will be the timing of the triggers. Will they come into affect in two years, five years, ten years?”

Meanwhile, Senate Democratic leaders are putting forward their deficit reduction proposals.

In a conference call with reporters on Wednesday, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) announced his support for setting caps on the country’s deficit, either separate from or as a part of legislation raising the debt ceiling.

"If we’re able to cap deficits, it automatically brings down the debt,” he said. "That’s the key to all of this.”

"My personal conviction is that if we have to be able to prove that we're willing to do something about the debt, that we're willing to do something with the deficits, in my opinion we need a deficit cap," Reid added.

It wasn’t entirely clear how those caps would be structured; Reid did little to elaborate during the call. Nor was it clear whether the Majority Leader’s proposal was fundamentally different from the approach that the White House favors: a debt fail-safe that would trigger across the board spending reductions and tax code recalibrations if the ratio of debt-to-GDP doesn’t stabilize over a given period of time.

Reid said he went to the White House in what was an unannounced meeting Tuesday on the debt ceiling. A Senate leadership aide said there was "no firm decision yet” as to what the party would do with either Reid’s or Obama’s proposals, but the political tea leaves point to a deal being cut.

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WASHINGTON -- House Republican leaders are zeroing in on the package of massive spending cuts and reforms they plan to attach to next month’s vote to raise the debt limit. The pieces being consid...
WASHINGTON -- House Republican leaders are zeroing in on the package of massive spending cuts and reforms they plan to attach to next month’s vote to raise the debt limit. The pieces being consid...
 
 
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brokerallen
The Middle Class Needs To Take Back America
12:03 AM on 04/30/2011
I've had a lot to say lately about Eric Cantor. All of it negative. In an effort not to make scandalous remarks I feel compelled to put a few things in perspective. First, I don't personally know Mr. Cantor. He might be a really nice guy. It is his political side I don't like. After doing my homework I realized that he maintains a very reactionary posture. A closer look reveals is is firmly against this, that, and the other thing. Lastly I examined the issues that were of a proactive nature. Who was he fighting? It soon became obvious that there not a single issue regarding his constituents that he was promoting. Who he was promoting Israel. Eric is involved in everything Israel. Now I'm pro Israel, but wasn't he elected to represent the good people of Virginia. Maybe you can see what I mean.
09:08 PM on 04/28/2011
Raise your hand if you think you should work for peanuts so the politicans can send money overseas to dictators and wage wars they cannot afford.
Soon they will force all of us to go to the 3rd world scums for the "good of the globe."
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06:36 PM on 04/28/2011
Great idea ! If the liberasl are opposed to it, I'm all for it. They didn't seem to mind adding more to the stimulus bill so we could study what the flatulence odor of a Brazilian cricket smelled like.
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commonsensor2009
Do a Good Turn Daily
08:04 PM on 04/28/2011
No Kidding - everyone knows they smell like U
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CA93010
Pest Controller
01:17 PM on 04/29/2011
Let's start by cutting FEMA money to Alabama, Texas, Mississippi, and Georgia, give them each $20M and call it a day. They don't want federal money anyway, they keep telling us that.
serena1313
Condemnation w/o investigation is hgt of ignorance
05:30 PM on 04/28/2011
During the Bush administration, the Republican majority voted 7 times without hesitation to raise the debt ceiling. Although I did not know then that if they hadn't it would have caused a worldwide economic crisis, I and many others know now. Yet even despite warnings against using this as leverage from their closest allies -- business leaders, the US Chamber of Commerce, Wall Street executives, the National Association of Manufacturers, etc. -- the Republicans are pursuing the hostage strategy, anyhow.

The problem with the GOP's deep spending cuts for public services while giving taxbreaks to the wealthiest is that -- according to the CBO & other (left, right & centre) economists -- up to as many as 700,000 workers will lose their jobs, slow down the economy & add trillions of dollars to the deficit -- it comes at the public's expense. Apparently they'd rather redirect the taxpayers money, in the form of taxbreaks, to the least needy leaving everyone else to fend for themselves.

Unfortunately Republicans are trying to force radical changes on a public, mostly none the wiser & unaware of the painful consequences that are bound to follow, unless they are stopped. But given that the GOP is determined to shred the last remaining vestiges of the safety net, that is unlikely.

They have no qualms about holding the debt ceiling hostage because, according to Republican doctrine, the ends justify the means.

I, along with millions more, adamantly disagree.

So ... what do we do?
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Left of Right
Want to default your country? Default your job!
04:14 PM on 04/28/2011
So if the teapublicans have their way, get rid of education, infrastructure, communications, transportation, research and development, and the budding and fruitful future of green energy, then America will soon become lower than a third world country--we will not be able to pay off debt at all, ever, but only generate debt while we gasp to survive.

If they get rid of all these things, plus "entitlements," (otherwise known as Medicare and SS which took 60 years+ to place and hard working Americans have paid into all of their lives), then we can kiss our future goodbye.

Perhaps they may as well go ahead and not vote on the debt ceiling and get it over with....once they fail to put that vote in place America forfeits on her debt to all the countries out there that are holding our debt, their markets will crash overnight, and the American taxpayers hold this debt as well. Our markets will crash, government workers will not get paid, social security does not get paid, vets do not get paid nor will receive any health care, and schools will close.

And you think the jobs market, and housing market is bad now? You ain't seen nothin' yet!

That is how far they will go to get their way. Then thump themselves on the chest and say that's what their voters put them in office to do.

If we make it to 2012 every American needs to show up and vote them out!
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Jawbey
04:10 PM on 04/28/2011
Taking all Bets.
The Dems will FOLD.
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RunningBecky
Runner, nurse, chess player
08:52 PM on 04/28/2011
Gods I wish I could take that bet. Unfortunately I have a sneaky suspicion you would win. Huggs Becy
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Left of Right
Want to default your country? Default your job!
04:00 PM on 04/28/2011
We need a do-over on midterms.
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Scott Berfield
04:00 PM on 04/28/2011
Here's a no brainer cut: expire the damned Bush tax cuts and instantly eliminate a third of the deficit.
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MiddleForkedRoad
Learning to hate politics one post at a time
04:15 PM on 04/28/2011
1/3? Really?
If you're talking about taxes on the rich, above $250,00 it would only save about 80 billion.
My math is fuzzy but 80 billion is nowhere near 1/3 of a 1.6 trillion deficit.
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irishgramm
03:58 PM on 04/28/2011
Republicans are playing a very dangerous game of chicken that they will lose. Cut oil subsidies, cut defense spending, end wars in Iraq and Afganistan, close bases in other countries, cut farm subsidies..... or any subsidy out there for any group.... instead of eleminating employes from the IRS per the Ryan plan, hire more to bring in tax cheats, with what is owed to the IRS by cheaters and liars, it would make a big dent on the deficit......Cut salaries and benefits for members of Congress, it's always being done to Americans out in the REAL world, so why shouldn't these fools get a big dose of the same medicine, remember "we're broke" isn't that the battle cry of the Republicans, isn't it their "patriotic duty" to share in some pain for the good of the nation????? WHY according to the Republicans and Paul Ryan's "Plan" is it always the middle class, the elderly, children and their welfare, education, the sick, the enviorment and the poor that have to pay the biggest price whenever a price has to be paid???? They are wrong, wrong, wrong and they are looking for the easy answer with not one iota of pain to their constituents, the wealthy and corporate America......
04:13 PM on 04/28/2011
Don't know how they'll lose...seems the party is "giving in" these days.
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06:33 PM on 04/28/2011
hire more to bring in tax cheats, with what is owed to the IRS by cheaters and liars, it would make a big dent on the deficit...­....Great, but then who would be left to run Washington.
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irishgramm
08:17 PM on 04/29/2011
Cynical much....I have heard figures of $250 to $300 BILLION in delinquent taxes that are uncollected, compare that to what the congress just passed in cuts totaling $68 Billion and that doesn't even take into account those hiding money from the IRS in other countries and off shore accounts......SOOOO yes hire more IRS agents to go after those who are trying to get away with something and they certainly are not all in DC, quite the contrary!!!
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03:54 PM on 04/28/2011
If the GOP wants to link specific cuts to the raising of the debt ceiling and they legitimately care that much about the debt (as opposed to, say, waging ideological warfare on programs that help the poor or educate our youth) then how about they link some cuts to Big Oil, cuts to Pentagon spending, etc. See, it's not really, truly about the debt. It's about Democratic programs only.
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rtx47
03:50 PM on 04/28/2011
President Obama's plan is only marginally better than Republican (Ryan) plan. Both reduce the annual deficit by 2% in the face of a 40% borrowing. For same reason, Congressio­nal Progressiv­e Caucus (CPC-Progressive) plan also fails to address fiscal squeeze, despite higher taxes.

None of these plans START TO PAY OFF the 15.5 Trillion (and rising) debt and 3.5 Trillion unfunded Pension obligation­s. Increasing are: Interest rates and payments; our dependency on interest payments for borrowings: continuing at the mercy of those holding our debt including the rating agencies.

From the mantra of "debt's good" to "debt's no problem" to "debt's manageable ­"; we now are, "can't pay-off debt and need to borrow more." We're in a downward fiscal spiral and will grapple with the ever increasing problem till we fall-off the cliff.

We should bite the bullet. Tighten our belt and go through short-term pain for long-term gain. Instead the 3 proposals make our fiscal mess a progressiv­e worse chronic problem; exaccerbat­ed with every small or big crises - natural or man-made, including financial crises, here or abroad.
These 3 budget plans vindicate the Tea Party.

Every year, we've got to cut 5% of the budget (including defense), eliminate corporate welfare and loopholes (including agricultur­al and other subsidies)­, and raise revenue 2% (various methods) till debt is eliminated (in 10-15 years depending on economic growth).

We need to end the shenanigan­s with various "illusionary" cuts and revenue enhancers.
03:48 PM on 04/28/2011
Can someone PLEASE explain to me why the GOP is getting to make a list of demands or else they won't increase the debt limit and let the US go into default on our debt?? Wouldn't going into default hurt their wall street corporate masters more than anyone else?? Why can't the DEMS be the one to say, "unless we get what WE want, WE won't increase the debt limit!"? I truly do not understand how the dems feel they are hostage to the demands of the GOP, when it's the GOP's masters that will be hurt the most on wall street... i just don't understand it...
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jorjan
03:41 PM on 04/28/2011
I would imagine the GOP is going to throw hissy fits and act like the spoiled corrupt politicians they are just like they do in everything else. They just can't help themselves. It's not like we would expect them to do anything for the good of the country.
03:50 PM on 04/28/2011
Nah, we should just keep spending what we don't have.
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Larrythetarheel
A sinner saved by Grace
03:35 PM on 04/28/2011
And let me say this! The Democrats do have some articulate, fresh, intellegent new faces, men and women that can communicate their message. Some are progressive and some are more moderate, the Party must move away from the same old tired faces of Pelosi, Reid, Clyburn, Hoyer et al. and promote a new generation of leaders. I listened to James Clyburn the other day explaning the Democratic position on the Debt, and I tell you after listening to him, I did not know what he was talking about, his explanation was all over the place. It is happing a lot with the Democrats. Since we have such a disfuctional Party as the Republicans are, we sorely need a coherent and constant and plain speaking voice from the Democrats.
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03:34 PM on 04/28/2011
The debt ceiling was raised constantly in the Bush administration even as he created the majority of the defiant the Republicans are wailing at. They were willing participants in the debt creation. Now we should allow them to hold ours and worlds economy hostage for some spending cuts that should be addressed in the 2012 budget? NO
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Hawklord Tst
gamer. i was born, and will probably die one day
03:50 PM on 04/28/2011
exactly right.the debt ceiling should not be a political issue. world and us markets are watching closely to see that we are prepared to raise it when necessary. if we hesitate, the global economy will falter. if we fail to act and go into the red, the global economy will collapse. i agree with the democrats though, vote to raise it now, then put a cap on it. remember, the limit will be exceeded by the budget the republicans just passed, so who's to blame here?