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David Axelrod On Sanctioning Secretly Funded Groups: It's Not Healthy 'But It's The System We Have'

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First Posted: 05/01/11 02:47 PM ET Updated: 07/01/11 06:12 AM ET

WASHINGTON -- David Axelrod, the president’s senior communications adviser, spent much of the 2010 election cycle warning against the rise of anonymously funded, conservative non-government groups, going so far as to frame them as a threat to democracy itself.

On Sunday, he blessed the emergence of those same organizations on the Democratic side of the aisle, calling it a bitter but necessary pill to swallow for both the party and campaign finance reformers.

“Let’s be clear," Axelrod said on "Meet the Press." "This independent group that was formed was formed in response to the ones that spent hundreds of millions of dollars in the last campaign to defeat Democratic candidates [with] undisclosed, large contributions. And we tried to pass a law [the DISCLOSE Act] through the Congress that would force … all groups to disclose who was giving them the money so the public could see. It got 59 Democratic votes in the United States Senate, 41 Republicans blocked it. And so, of course, now there’s a reaction to what happened, because Democrats are sitting there saying, ‘We can’t play under two sets of rules.’ … We should walk down to Capitol Hill and urge them to pass the law and that will govern both Republicans and Democrats and everybody will be playing under one set of rules.”

"I don’t think this is healthy," he added. "I don’t think this is good. But it is the system we have. And you can’t expect one side to operate under one set of rules and the other side to operate under another."

The idea that Democrats are leaning on outside government groups as a response to being flooded by them in 2010 does, in some respect, ignore the massive amounts of money union groups put into those midterm races. For campaign finance reform advocates -- chief among them former Sen. Russ Feingold (D-Wisc.) -- it also strikes a poor strategic note: forfeiting the political advantages that come with the moral high ground.

But for the White House and allied officials and campaign committees, it's not all that difficult a decision. The potential to run tens of millions of dollars worth of television ads attacking Republican candidates is obviously alluring. But so is the capacity to sustain a major opposition research operation, which, according to officials familiar with the plans for these outside groups, will be an organizational imperative for the presidential cycle.


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WASHINGTON -- David Axelrod, the president’s senior communications adviser, spent much of the 2010 election cycle warning against the rise of anonymously funded, conservative non-government groups, ...
WASHINGTON -- David Axelrod, the president’s senior communications adviser, spent much of the 2010 election cycle warning against the rise of anonymously funded, conservative non-government groups, ...
 
 
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TheHandyman 03:03 PM on 05/01/2011
See, this is what you get when you vote for the lesser of two evils. You get people who then say that the evil they do is a necessary evil which is what defines them as being evil. The Dimocan'ts could have put a stop to this nonsense if they had put forth a bill redefining corporations as something other than humans. They did not do so because they knew that they wanted access to the same money as the  Read More...
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01:51 PM on 05/02/2011
Notice with the right that ethics are the first casualty of their ideology; and without ethics the social contract is turned into a jungle. That environmen­t best serves people who are unfit for power or authority so the left is forced to run the race. It looks like Edward Bernays was right; the left would eventually have to adopt the tactics of the right or watch the country turn into a banana republic run by the least advanced minds. Here's to using these methods on behalf of the people instead of against them.
08:15 AM on 05/03/2011
But doesn't the left also fall victim to the same trap? If we sacrifice our ethics and values how are we any different than republicans?
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11:50 AM on 05/03/2011
Outcomes are the only real measure of difference according to Bernays. He was not stating these views because he endorsed propaganda, but rather because the right would force a symmetrical response. If right wing propaganda is not countered it will end up winning all that it wants. In other words, pathological propaganda can only be countered with efficacious propaganda. Its a very significant test of the "ends vs means" dilemma, and we should remember it is the right who is forcing the issue.
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01:45 PM on 05/02/2011
You're willing to accept mediocrity! This alarms me.
01:35 PM on 05/02/2011
I hope they raise $1 billion from secretly funded groups. I totally agree with Democrats to do this. If this is what Republicans want, this is what they get. If you cant beat them, join them. Go Dems !
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dmsdzinr
Progression wit a twist of sarcasm.
12:26 PM on 05/02/2011
Axelrod was SPOT ON with this comment: "We cannot have one set of rules for the GOP, and another set of rules for the Democrats"!!! EXACTLY! Even though the GOP would prefer that there were two sets, with advantage going to them, of course.
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ez14livin
11:07 AM on 05/02/2011
here is a piece of music about wall street, bank bailouts and generally, whoever has the gold makes the rules: masters of the universe

proud2bnlp dot weebly dot com
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10:56 AM on 05/02/2011
Fight fire with fire, Good for you Axelrod!
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William J Unverferth Sr
Snark attack.
11:01 AM on 05/02/2011
What do you mean? The Republicans have never had 527 expenditures that were higher than the Dems.
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ez14livin
11:31 AM on 05/02/2011
maybe it's not the amount, but the source...?

but when the law is changed (after dems trounce the gop in 2012) and the gotp has to declare all of their donors bet we'll have a massive gwb/dick cheney moment again, won't we? you remember - when 3 million emails were 'irretreivably lost' and when a 'fire' destroys so much other evidence - i mean supporting documentation as to how much more 'patriotic' our then vp was compared w/ any dem, right?
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jcarterla
There ain't no shame in my game!
10:52 AM on 05/02/2011
Until Citizens United is overturned, not using the same tools as the republicans would be akin to the parents who try to reason with their 3 year olds.
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William J Unverferth Sr
Snark attack.
11:00 AM on 05/02/2011
You realize of course that since the creation of the Dem decried 527s that Dems/Liberals have outspent the GOP/Conservatives in EVERY election? Only in the last election cycle did the republicans come close to matching Dem/Liberal spending. It seems like the Dems don't want parity spending they want to overwhelm the spending of the Republicans.

check it out http://www.opensecrets.org/527s/index.php?filter2=A
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ez14livin
11:33 AM on 05/02/2011
maybe because so many more PEOPLE support the dems....?

maybe all that money was DECLARED?

it isn't the amount, it's the source and when all is revealed, we will see how corrupt the gop is by how much foreign money was used
justhinking
I'll listen if you will
02:26 PM on 05/02/2011
It is not only money going directly to campaigns. It is also the citizen united money that pays to create marketing ads that have nothing to do with the truth. Add that in with the USCOC bribe money and you have a huge advantage on the right. Now add in the fact tht they took their limited time in majority to defund unions, restricted voting rights, eliiminated community organizations that get the vote out and gerrymandering voting districts. The democrats have a long way to go to get to a level playing field.
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William J Unverferth Sr
Snark attack.
10:48 AM on 05/02/2011
Shocking news Politicians admit they are corrupt. Next in the news water is wet.
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TeeLolly
10:12 AM on 05/02/2011
No, David--at least the secret part is not necessary ... now or ever.
09:47 AM on 05/02/2011
Hypocrisy. Embarrass the Supremes in a state of the union speech only to embrace the groups for 2012. Does Obama have no core principles?
09:47 AM on 05/02/2011
Hypocrisy at it's best, the Liberals have far out spent the Conservatives in the last 4 election cycles in the 527 orgainizations, http://www.opensecrets.org/527s/index.php.

Since the Converstaives started forming similiar organizations, in 2010, the Democrat's are now crying foul.

Get real and stop being the Party of Excusses and Blame.
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ruthtruth
seeker of truth, willing to listen
08:52 AM on 05/02/2011
With the ruling by SCOTUS the Dems have to go this route. Taking on the right wing juggernaut will require raising money to counteract the Koch Brothers and others like them. Sometimes you have to get in the dirt to defeat dirt bags.
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Americanium
Liberal nut
08:30 AM on 05/02/2011
Anything that regulates the GOP to minority status I am for ..Anything!!!! That includes ridding us of the Republicans who masquerade as Democrats..
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Impishparrot
Retired research ethnographer.
08:28 AM on 05/02/2011
Amend Constitution to specify term limits for Congress:

1. Term Limits. 12 years only, one of the possible options below..

A. Two Six-year Senate terms
B. Six Two-year House terms
C. One Six-year Senate term and three Two-Year House terms

2. No Tenure / No Pension. A Congressman collects a salary while in office and receives no pay when they are out of office.

3. Congress (past, present & future) participates in Social Security.
All funds in the Congressional retirement fund move to the Social Security system immediately. All future funds flow into the Social Security system, and Congress participates with the American people.

4. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan, just as all Americans do.

5. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise. Congressional pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%.

6. Congress loses their current health care system and participates in the same health care system as the American people.

7. Congress must equally abide by all laws they impose on the American people.

8. All contracts with past and present Congressmen are void effective 10-1-11.

The American people did not make this contract with Congressmen. Congressmen made all these contracts for themselves. Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, so ours should serve their term(s), then go home and back to work.
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theSiNN3r
Vox Populi
08:55 AM on 05/02/2011
Amazing post, F&F
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ez14livin
10:57 AM on 05/02/2011
i would make it 18 years total, in your combination, plus an additional 61 more, should he/she choose to run for VP and/or President

HOWEVER - for every year served, the same amount of time must pass before ANYONE (staffers included) working for a federally elected official may go to work for any registered lobbyist fir
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OliverTwist
Contrarian advocate for truth and justice
08:28 AM on 05/02/2011
I can't find the expression "necessary evil" anywhere but in the jump headline.

Did Axelrod actually use those words?
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ez14livin
10:58 AM on 05/02/2011
no he did not