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House Armed Services Commitee Could Fund Alternate Engine

Joint Strike Fighter

First Posted: 05/03/11 08:01 PM ET Updated: 07/03/11 06:12 AM ET

By Colin Clark
Editor, AOL Defense

WASHINGTON -- The Obama administration may think it has killed the second engine program for the world’s most expensive military weapons program ever, the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter.

Maybe, maybe not. The House Armed Services Committee -- led by one of Congress’ staunchest supporters of the second engine program, Buck McKeon (R-Calif.) -- looks set to pass language that would require the Pentagon to open the program to competing manufacturers.

That could mean funding General Electric’s F136 engine program. But the language in HASC's spending outline is conditional. It would stop the Pentagon from spending money on thrust and other performance improvements to the Pratt & Whitney engine -- the F135 -- unless it also opened the program to competitors.

It looks as though the F135 engine may require improvements costing as much as $1 billion. That means the House Armed Services tactical air and land forces subcommittee language would force the Obama administration to once again fund the F136.

House aides made clear the frustration representatives felt at the administration’s decision to scrap the F136. The issue for Rep. McKeon, one aide said, is “accountability.” Without a second engine program, Pratt would be free to spend money without the pressure of a competitor forcing it to build an engine with more thrust.

Pratt reacted quickly to the spending proposal. "This just seems like a way to punish the whole F-35 program because the F136 extra engine was terminated," Stephanie Duvall, Pratt spokeswoman, said in an email.

GE is pushing hard to ensure it gets a shot at Pentagon spending on aircraft engines. The HASC seapower and projection subcommittee proposed changes that would force the Pentagon to designate engines for the planned long-range bomber as a major subprogram -- one that must be competitive. That would effectively guarantee both GE and Pratt shots at the program.

No total cost estimates for the bomber are available.

Other defense spending projects could see tighter regulation under the proposed budget.

The tactical air and land forces subcommittee placed strict limits on Pentagon spending for the Army’s $30 billion Ground Combat Vehicle, due to be designed and built within seven years. Before Congress would release all funding for the program, the defense secretary would have to come up with “a quantitative comparison” for an upgraded Bradley Fighting Vehicle.

“The committee understands that the Army wants the GCV to carry three additional soldiers, but the committee believes that should not be the primary attribute that drives the decision on continuing the project on its current path,” the revision reads.

Finally, the HASC seapower subcommittee told the Pentagon it still does not believe the Navy or Marines know what they want to do about replacing the Expeditionary Fighting Vehicle (EFV), an amphibious armored vehicle designed to get troops from ships to shore with speed and safety. Defense Secretary Robert Gates canceled the EFV, arguing it was too expensive and had taken far too long to develop. But the Marines say they are committed to building another one, this one called the Amphibious Combat Vehicle.

The proposed bill says it will limit funding for the replacement, which is expected to cost as much as $7 billion. In the bill's revision notes, seapower subcommittee members said the Marines and Navy did not do “proper analysis” before cancelling the EFV.

Launching in Spring 2011, AOL Defense will provide news, insight and tools about the defense sector. Follow Colin on Twitter at @colinclarkaol. Follow AOL Defense at @aoldefense.

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By Colin Clark Editor, AOL Defense WASHINGTON -- The Obama administration may think it has killed the second engine program for the world’s most expensive military weapons program ever, the F-35...
By Colin Clark Editor, AOL Defense WASHINGTON -- The Obama administration may think it has killed the second engine program for the world’s most expensive military weapons program ever, the F-35...
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Fonsini
Let there be pie.
11:44 AM on 05/04/2011
I see the lobbyists have been buying extra lobster and champagne on this one.

We have people dying from a need for healthcare, but still need to spend a billion dollars to get an extra 2,000lbs of thrust from a fighter engine. Priorities can sure be strange.
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TruEngineHearing
Happiness needs new pursuers...
10:02 AM on 05/04/2011
This what exactly what Eisenhower meant when he warned us about the "military industrial complex." When the GOP weasels lie about this, they do so for money - and that money comes from the middle-class American safety net. Unless we embrace serious pest control, everyone you love is going to suffer, and all the weasels will prosper.
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02:16 AM on 05/04/2011
if having an alternative engine is cheaper then why not an alternative airplane with another alternative engine, and another, and another... we can always take the exponential logic to its core absurdity...
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gevan
big dubya
11:28 PM on 05/03/2011
When they say "open the program to competitors" they mean improving the Pratt and Whitney engine not a whole different engine program, right? right?
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Marv Parker
10:47 PM on 05/03/2011
What a boondoggle.... the residents of Beaufort, SC, where the training for this jet would be conducted at the Marine Air Base there, don't want the training squadrons cause of the noise ( a jet flight every 20 seconds or so) and if the GOPers were really interested in balancing a budget and getting rid of pork, then they would have to scrap this program for good. Course, a certain cretin South Carolinean senator wants this program in the worst way (his buddies are set to make big bucks off this) and is nonplussed about the hypocrisy involved.
For more info, check out the local paper there, the Island Packet.
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LouGots
05:25 AM on 05/04/2011
Here we go again with the NIMBY's in Beaufort wanting to shut down Marine aviation. Tough. National defense takes precedence over local resistance.
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rotorhead1871
who are you jivin' with that cosmic debris?...
10:13 PM on 05/03/2011
KEEP THE PORK FLOWING....
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02:12 AM on 05/04/2011
the pork is life! the pork must flow.
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rotorhead1871
who are you jivin' with that cosmic debris?...
06:18 PM on 05/04/2011
I thought that was the spice!!.....or was it the water of life...??
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isb782
JM is the Man!
09:28 PM on 05/03/2011
What a waste of money and GOP want to cut spending every where that helps this country but not here.
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bill987654
The trickle down myth is destroying America
10:03 PM on 05/03/2011
it is in Boehers district...
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isb782
JM is the Man!
03:40 PM on 05/04/2011
It make sense now. I was wondering why.

Thanks