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Kent Conrad's Budget Angers Democratic Colleagues


First Posted: 05/03/11 08:30 PM ET Updated: 07/03/11 06:12 AM ET

WASHINGTON -- Senate Democrats are furious at their lead budget negotiator for crafting a blueprint that they think moves the party too far to the right, a senior Democratic aide said.

Sen. Kent Conrad (D-N.D.) has been bargaining for months in secret with Republicans in the so-called Gang of Six to craft a budget that might win bipartisan acceptance. On Tuesday, Conrad abruptly dropped the veil and rolled out his own offering for party colleagues -- to brutal reviews.

"He's going to be a man without a country," the Democratic aide said, describing a contentious Tuesday briefing.

The problem for Democrats is that, rather than put down a firm Democratic marker from which the party can negotiate, Conrad has adopted a plan that resembles the work he's done with legislators across the aisle.

In bringing it forward himself, Conrad sets the starting point for the Democratic position in a more conservative spot than President Barack Obama's budget -- and that was already a compromise. Obama's plan includes a spending freeze for federal workers, among many other concessions to the GOP.

"He's setting this out like it's the official Democratic position," a Democratic staffer said. "I don't know if this can pass his own committee without major changes."

Democrats think Conrad decided release his budget before the Gang of Six because the talks were collapsing. He is hoping to salvage the work of the bipartisan group by attracting a few Republicans to the more conservative plan.

"The problem is the Republicans wouldn't agree to anything. They just keep dragging it out," the Democratic aide said referring to the Gang of Six talks.

Sen. Ben Cardin (D-Md.) said that Conrad gave no clear indication that the talks would result in a deal.

“He said that it was up and down, up and down, up and down. But I don’t know whether it was up or down the last time he talked to us,” said Cardin after being briefed by Conrad, who is retiring at the end of this session.

“I ask all the time,” said Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) of the halting progress of the Gang of Six. “Every day is a different story. One day I hear, ‘It’s great, we’re going to get a deal.’ The next day, they’re not. So I don’t know. The answer is, I honestly don’t know.”

One Republican, Sen. Jeff Sessions of Alabama, suggested the secretive Gang of Six work and Conrad’s solo move were setting the table for a partisan food fight.

“I just think this process is going to leave us with a more partisan result than an open process would,” Sessions said. He is convinced that Conrad will move forward “with or without a Gang of Six agreement.”

Sessions seemed to validate Democratic fears over the starting point set by the North Dakota senator.

“I can’t imagine that the Conrad budget won’t be somewhat better than the president’s budget -- it’s got to be,” he told reporters. “But [Republicans] need to look at it.”

“What this is, is a draft proposal. I’ve been getting feedback, as you can imagine,” Conrad told reporters after briefing his colleagues at a Capitol luncheon.

Conrad said that his budget closely reflects the one voted on -– and rejected by -– the president’s fiscal commission. That spending plan, primarily put together by former Sens. Alan Simpson (R-Wy.) and Erskine Bowles (D-N.C.), failed to garner the needed 14 of 18 votes to move forward to a congressional vote. It would have cut roughly $4 trillion from projected deficits over a 10 year period, a number that Conrad said his plan equals.

“It borrows some of the ideas of the fiscal commission on revenue,” Conrad added, saying that tax rates would be lowered. But his plan would “broaden the base” of taxpayers, he said. It would do that by eliminating certain corporate tax loopholes and special treatment for particular industries and targeting offshore tax havens.

“You would not need to raise rates. You could actually lower rates along the lines of what the commission does,” Conrad said.

Conrad’s plan pulls “some savings” from Medicare, he said, but does not include a specific spending target, as Republicans have called for.

A significant difference between Conrad’s plan and the fiscal commission plan is that Conrad does not address Social Security, which, he noted, is on a separate budgetary track. Social Security is paid for by payroll taxes rather than general revenue, so it does not contribute to the deficit.

Conrad wouldn’t comment on the state of the Six of Gang negotiations, saying that the group had agreed to stay mum.

Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.), a Gang member, was less convinced his fellow negotiators were keeping their lips sealed.

“You can go get that from Conrad or Durbin,” Coburn told HuffPost when asked about the status of the negotiations. "They talk to you guys all the time.”

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WASHINGTON -- Senate Democrats are furious at their lead budget negotiator for crafting a blueprint that they think moves the party too far to the right, a senior Democratic aide said. Sen. Kent Co...
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03:15 PM on 05/18/2011
Sen Conrad Please take your neo=con ideas an leave now . Conrad wants a flat tax for the American worker no write offs an I mean no house,no husband an wife no kids no school no medical plain old no write offs. Unless you make more than 1 million bucks an your house is worth 1 million then these neo-con Democrats are here to help your write offs are fine.

Gut medicare lower major medical to 65 percent 10 Dr. visits a yr 35 dollar co=pay add 1 percent to cola no matter what .

Across the board 2 percent cut to S.,S. an change the cola formula in stead of GDP raise cut that in half.

These are the things Conrad ,Warner an Durbin want for the American worker an there parents the Seniors ?

These so called Democrats just borrowed 1000 billion =1 trillion bucks for a 2 yr tax cut.

Now cry Chicken Little, Chicken Little ,the sky is falling they are phony as a three dollar bill ?
RTIII
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10:04 AM on 05/14/2011
Conrad is a sell-out and one of the DINOs we need to get rid of.

Please, those of you who are his electorate, PLEASE "primary" this guy with a REAL Democrat next time 'round, OK?
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Trapster
Veni, vidi, vomui
06:48 AM on 05/10/2011
Gee, Our Republican President (Obama) selects a conservative (ND) Democrat (AKA closet Republican) to be a member of the gang of 6 and we're surprised that Conrad too is walking with the right wing agenda?
03:18 PM on 05/18/2011
Pres. Obama picked Simpson debt commission on one side an Roadmap Ryan on the other an ask these neo=con Democrats to pick what you like an gut it.
iflew
Pro Publiae Bonae
12:26 AM on 05/06/2011
I forgot to edit for the United Nations version.

I meant to write:" If he becomes unreasonable he will have to change parties.", Sorry.
iflew
Pro Publiae Bonae
12:22 AM on 05/06/2011
If this man becomes reasonable he will be forced to change parties.
08:06 AM on 05/05/2011
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cheo
better a bleeding heart than none at all
11:48 PM on 05/04/2011
Conrad should never have been the one negotiating on our behalf.

And more than that, I don't want us to move one inch to the Right; we are already starting at a position right of center. I want some negotiators who will actually play the Rightwing game of NOT moving better than they do....it doesn't matter whether we are in the majority of minority, we give ground, they don't.

I for one am fed up with all the movement always being to the Right.

It went to the left for a few short years in my life; that wasn't long enough. I want our Reps and Senators to stand up for us instead of always backing down. Is that really too much to ask?

It's not like we keep needing more proof that their economic policies don't work.
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cheo
better a bleeding heart than none at all
11:50 PM on 05/04/2011
oops, first paragraph edit: 'majority or minority'
03:19 PM on 05/18/2011
No more left is left ? Even Sen. Durbin sold us out ?
RTIII
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10:06 AM on 05/14/2011
Fanned for Being Right - Um, I mean CORRECT! -smile-
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10:46 PM on 05/04/2011
Something about politicians making six figures and dead set on a future making much more bothers me. Why would anyone in their financial positions ever vote for any legislation that would do anything but make them richer? Our society of greed and material aquisitions does not produce many truely patriotic and caring public servants or citizens. Until we end the liklihood of politicians becoming very rich from serving outside, special interest, sources we will never have a government that speaks for the people as was intended.
08:07 PM on 05/04/2011
Conrad is essentially a republican when it comes to budget matters, so Dems don't have and need a lead negotiator. Even though he is an independent, Berrnie Sanders should be leading budget negotiations for the Dems.
08:09 PM on 05/04/2011
I should add, the reason for Sanders - to provide an adequate counter for the extreme rightwign Ryanpublican budget.
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Querent
I say the things that have to be said.
07:42 PM on 05/04/2011
Why is Conrad still in office? We got rid of almost all the Blue Dogs. It's time to bounce Conrad and McCaskill, too.
Cookieman62
Progressive, new name for failed liberal policies
07:58 PM on 05/04/2011
You could just get your wish. The GOP have a good shot at picking up both of these seats along with Florida, Nebraska, Nevada, New Mexico, Ohio, and Virginia.
11:35 AM on 05/05/2011
NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The people are starting towake up to the republican party that works for corporations and not the people!!
RTIII
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10:08 AM on 05/14/2011
On the one hand, that "could change the balance of power", but then NOT, because the right has been in control "all along", and this way it would at least be a little more honest (obvious) that it's the right that's doing all these horrible things to the country.
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AggieReal
Nothing fails like prayer. Do something.
06:01 PM on 05/04/2011
I would like to see McConnell and some of the others WB'd.
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rtx47
05:28 PM on 05/04/2011
Academia and those writing articles about balancing federal budget and paying off debt should define their time-line to achieve their fiscal goals. NEITHER PRESIDENT NOR REPUBLICAN PROPOSALS EVEN START PAYING DOWN THE DEBT. In fact they don't even eliminate the deficit and INCREASE the debt.

There's a concerted effort by politician­­s to fix this fiscal dilemma. It may be wishful and positive thinking on my part. Given the cohesiveness in the lame-duck session, I detect a 'survival instinct' in these national / seasoned politicians of both stripes.

Both political parties are positionin­g themselves to carry "the heavy load," and now floating trial balloons to see public response and acceptance­­.

Progressives (specially in Congress and academia) are too caught-up in defending (crying about) cuts in social spending. Tea Party has concerned themselves with fighting taxes and other revenue enhancers. Both groups with defense hawks (neocons) have agreed to protect military spending.

We-the-public should not overlook the larger strategic game at play and carry the third-leg of this "heavy load". Clamor and Demand cuts in Defense and related budgets.

President and members of House and Senate are victims of President Eisenhower­'s dictum of the Industrial-Military­-Political Complex. This Complex has gotten bigger and more powerful since President Eisenhower cautioned us about it. We are in three wars. But none of these wars need two ADDITIONAL aircraft carriers. Eliminating these two planned aircraft carriers still leaves us with more carriers than the rest of the world combined.
RTIII
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10:10 AM on 05/14/2011
...Eisenhower called it the Military-Industrial-Legislative Complex, by the way...
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wrightthewrong
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04:46 PM on 05/04/2011
Conrad moves to the right? If he moved any further to the right, he'd fall off the cliff. I was completely disheartened when I learned who was in this gang of 6 -- it's like the health care debacle all over again. They just move further and further to the right and satisfy no one.
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10:11 AM on 05/14/2011
I hope you finally get it that Obama is in fact a Republican.
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04:36 PM on 05/04/2011
I'm dumbfounded by those on the right and 'independents' that vote Republican. How do these people not see that we are at a point where the disparity between the wealthiest and the middle class is at is largest since just before the Great Depression. How is it not patently obvious that this is entirely due to 'trickle-down' being a complete and utter failure?
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04:00 PM on 05/04/2011
It is always funny to hear liberals try and define what a Democrat is. The reason that they don't like so many Democrats is that progressives are barely in the party. They represent the extreme Left Wing of the party in the same way that the Religious Right represent the extreme Right Wing of the Republicans party.
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dcflush
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04:07 PM on 05/04/2011
I would argue that it's hard to define what a Democrat is because we are a diverse party that has incorporated many that would have been Republican just 15 years ago when the GOP introduced their health care reform plan that called for mandates and exchanges.

I would argue that the Republican party is easy to define precisely because it has been taken over by the far right religious extremists and tbaggers. It's easy to pin only a handful of reprehensible policy issues on the right because they are in lock-step. That is also the reason they find it easier to lie without repurcusions... because their party just nods when an absurd lie is told, while when a Dem lies, those within as well as those without yell and scream about it.
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10:32 PM on 05/04/2011
Amazing. I saw that last paragraph with the parties reversed almost verbatim last week.
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04:27 PM on 05/04/2011
It's sometimes easiest to define a thing by its opposite: A Democrat is not a Republican.

Well okay... Most Democrats are not Rebublicans.

Will that do?
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10:14 AM on 05/14/2011
It complicates things very much that Obama is in fact a Republican while being the highest profile Democrat at the same time. No wonder people are confused about what it is to be a Democrat!