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Obama Administration, State Officials Expected To Give Banks New Mortgage Terms As Some Question Pace Of Negotiations

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First Posted: 05/06/11 03:18 PM ET Updated: 07/06/11 06:12 AM ET

WASHINGTON -- The Obama administration and state officials are expected to offer the nation's five largest mortgage firms updated terms next week in ongoing negotiations over a settlement regarding the firms' faulty treatment of borrowers, according to three people with knowledge of the government plan.

As part of their discussions to settle months-long state and federal probes into shoddy mortgage practices and wrongful foreclosures, the new terms are expected to incorporate suggestions offered by the banks in response to an earlier term sheet circulated in early March by state and federal officials. Bankers said the original terms were too stiff; investors said they didn't go far enough. Consumer advocates said they were a good start.

The new term sheet will mark another attempt to get bankers and policymakers on the same page regarding the treatment of borrowers who fall behind on their mortgage payments or default on their obligations. But it is not expected to detail any fines to be meted out in response to banks' flawed practices, which include improper home seizures and other actions that broke federal and local laws.

Officials also remain undecided on a possible mandate to banks to reduce borrowers' loan balances, according to the three sources, who were not authorized to speak publicly about the matter. Banks are reluctant to slash mortgage principal balances; some agencies in the Obama administration want to require it, as do most of the state attorneys general leading their mortgage probe. A vocal minority -- all Republicans -- are opposed.

On April 28, the disagreement played out during meetings held in Washington. State and federal officials held two in-person meetings with bankers, with many state officials calling in from their respective states. Representatives of the five firms -- JPMorgan Chase, Bank of America, Wells Fargo, Citigroup and Ally Financial -- made a presentation which they claimed showed why mandating principal reductions would not prevent a significant number of new foreclosures and would be harmful to the general economy.

The banks said "it would trigger a stampede of strategic defaults," said an official familiar with one of the two discussions, referring to instances in which borrowers who can afford to make good on their obligations choose not to. Strategic defaults are much more common in the business world than among homeowners, according to experts who study the issue.

Government officials questioned the banks' assumptions, which were partly based on data from the Obama administration's signature foreclosure-prevention initiative, the Home Affordable Modification Program, according to people familiar with the meetings. HAMP, which seeks to reduce monthly payments, is primarily known for its lackluster results.

But the bankers and government officials did not discuss the size of potential fines, nor did they address the mortgage firms' push for release from legal liability for their unlawful actions in their treatment of borrowers and pursuit of home repossession. The nation's largest lenders voluntarily halted home seizures last autumn after faulty document practices -- like so-called "robo-signing" -- came to light, erupting into a national scandal. Federal and state investigations began shortly afterward.

Now, the top law enforcement officers in some states, most notably New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman, want to make sure they are not constrained in taking legal action against mortgage firms for violations of state and local laws.

Some have grown frustrated with the pace of negotiations, people familiar with the matter say, and fear a broad release from legal liability will likely be sprung on them at the last minute as a condition of their settlement with the targeted banks. Attempts to begin discussions over the liability release have thus far been thwarted, however.

Also at issue are potential fines. The Department of Housing and Urban Development and the Bureau of Consumer Financial Protection are looking to impose penalties on the five firms nearing a total of $30 billion, according to people familiar with the matter. The Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation has suggested levying at least $20 billion in penalties. Other federal agencies have suggested amounts closer to $5-10 billion, with the banks open to fines just under that range. Some state officials are pushing for more than $30 billion.

However, the size of possible fines was not discussed Thursday, people familiar with the discussions said.

This week, Bank of America, Wells, JPMorgan and Citigroup said they collectively could shell out as much as $11.8 billion in litigation losses beyond amounts that they've already set aside, regulatory documents filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission show.

By taking shortcuts in processing troubled borrowers' home loans, the nation's five largest mortgage firms have saved more than $20 billion since the housing crisis began in 2007, according to a confidential presentation prepared for state attorneys general by the nascent Bureau of Consumer Financial Protection inside the Treasury Department and obtained by The Huffington Post in March.

The estimate suggests that the nation's largest banks have reaped tremendous benefits from underserving distressed homeowners, a complaint frequent enough among borrowers that federal regulators have repeatedly acknowledged the industry's fundamental shortcomings.

The dollar figure provides a basis for regulators' internal discussions regarding how best to penalize Bank of America, JPMorgan, Wells, Citigroup and Ally. Much of the money would go towards reducing troubled homeowners' mortgage payments and lowering loan balances for underwater borrowers, who owe more on their home than it's worth.

This week, 33 Democratic members of Congress signed a letter sent to Attorney General Eric Holder and Iowa Attorney General Tom Miller (D), urging them to extract a meaningful settlement with the targeted banks.

"In the communities we represent, and in others across the country, the flagrant disregard for the law and predatory practices by lenders and servicers have imposed substantial hardships on both homeowners and their neighbors," the letters read. "We hope that, as these talks proceed, you will work to protect the rights of those harmed by these practices, provide meaningful immediate relief to homeowners, hold lenders and servicers accountable for any unlawful practices that they engaged in, and ensure that, in the future, the practices that brought about this crisis will not reoccur."

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WASHINGTON -- The Obama administration and state officials are expected to offer the nation's five largest mortgage firms updated terms next week in ongoing negotiations over a settlement regarding th...
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carolgregor
05:38 PM on 05/20/2011
Is anyone, anywhere addressing the health impact of these fraudulent bankers actions? Lost homes, broken spirits, destroyed families, neighborhoods, depreciating buildings, empty homes, depression, and the loss of trillions of citizens hard earned money seems a second concern to keeping the banks in charge and funded. They are the enemy with in, they are the crooks.
Is there any question drastic measure must be made to restore the average homeowners basis in her home and the economy for humanitarian purposes alone.
Shame on the President for not having the leadership or courage to protect and defend the citizens of the US. He has broken his promise.
Everyone should stop paying. That will make these crooks respond.
04:40 PM on 05/20/2011
Siebenstein....I understand completely....I have fought with bank Of America for over 2 years trying to get them to reduce my principle....they will not budge...but I keep sending letters to them and my Sate Representative's
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myrtle1909
I am an artist and a free lance writer
07:06 PM on 05/16/2011
Mortgage firms should slash the principle of the mortage. In my opinion it would be much better to slash the principle balance than to put the home owner out on the street. If the house is vacant then it gives the thieves an opportunity to break into the house and destroy it and anything inside.
A house that is empty will fall apart. Let the owners pay what they can and when they have more resources they can catch up with their payments. The US Government bailed out the bankers. Why can't the bankers give the home owners a break???
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Siebenstein
both parties are worthless
03:07 AM on 05/11/2011
Obama Administration, State Officials Expected To Give Banks New Mortgage Terms

WHEN ??
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Siebenstein
both parties are worthless
05:15 AM on 05/10/2011
I have send a letter to our new Californian State Attorney in reference to this issue. She never bothered to write back.
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Siebenstein
both parties are worthless
05:13 AM on 05/10/2011
Shahien

You always have the best articles in the housing issue !

Thanks.
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Siebenstein
both parties are worthless
05:12 AM on 05/10/2011
Eric Holder himself is a slick eel. That's why we see no change in the homeowners direction.
02:56 PM on 05/09/2011
Bottom-line is that the banks wrote more mortgages than they can hold. The banks are holding on by a thread and no one but foreign entities are able to rescue or buy them out. That's why the states should demand that they take over the properties on mortgages written between 2003-2008 as part of the AG Settlement. The states could reconstruct the mortgages with the homeowners; recover the states' lost securities investments; keep neighborhoods from vacant, empty housing attracting crime; and split the revenue with their counties and investors ... if the the investors can prove that they have not been paid by TARP or insurance. The banks have been paid - there is no reason for them to use our state lands as their new gold standard. Take the land back from Wall Street before it become foreign property.
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DebtNavigation
Attorney and Author
10:52 AM on 05/09/2011
No settlement. Just press your state and federal representatives to keep fighting and actually represent you. Otherwise, it's time that you and your neighbors stage your own little rebellion.

In Mexico in the mid-'90s Wall Street engineered a currency coup that tripled the debt owed by small businesses and family farms and also allowed for them to be massively ratejacked on top of it. Mexicans consequently formed the "el Barzon" movement and pushed back Wall Street and deposed their ruling party of 60+ years. In this country YouTube phenom Ann Minch has already declared the debtors' revolt and begun going after them http://www.revoltstartsnow.com

If you've been pushed under, you can read every other page of my book for free: http://www.scribd.com/doc/25443175/Debt-Hope-Down-and-Dirty-Survival-Strategies-Evaluation-Version-Complete
06:01 PM on 05/09/2011
Are you nuts!!
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DebtNavigation
Attorney and Author
09:00 PM on 05/09/2011
Yep
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07:49 AM on 05/09/2011
   Our leaders keep telling us that we are going in the right direction.  The dismal facts of  trade deficits, fiscal deficits, 30 million unemployed, urban war zones, worthless currency and bank failures and concentrated wealth and windfall profits point to another direction.  In any government, dishonesty is of the worst sins.  The worst sin is to deny that anything is fundamentally awry, that is, self-delusion.
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jcaunter
Profile: schizoid, INTJ
04:07 AM on 05/09/2011
Unless the "terms" involved are 20 to life this is all just more hot air from the most abject banker-groveling administration of my lifetime.
iam99
To know what you prefer...
04:39 AM on 05/09/2011
Yes, when did obsequious become a trait to aspire to? It seems automatic when one enters politics regardless of upbringing or education.

To most it is abhorrent, and would be avoided.
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ChasG
Unborn, unchanging, undying Universe
03:54 PM on 05/09/2011
As aggressiveness is abhorent as well
iam99
To know what you prefer...
03:48 AM on 05/09/2011
Don't the banks create money when they make the loan for anyone to acquire RE isn't this dollars created out of thin air?

And then, when they foreclose on the property/borrower aren't they compensated with real dollars (not fractional reserve created) from the insurance companies?

And further, when the banks were given multiple trillions in bailout dollars won't these dollars create more times a factor of ten (or much more) with fractional reserve banking?

And then, shouldn't the banks and the country be absolutely swimming in these newly created fractional dollars?

Where are they?
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ChasG
Unborn, unchanging, undying Universe
04:07 PM on 05/09/2011
You think insurance is real money and bank money is not?  Where do you think insurance companies get their money?
 
Yes, you are correct that banks create money out of thin air when they lend, and as the loan gets repaid, that money disappears right back into the thin air where it came from.  That's the nature of all money, including currency.  It has no intrinsic value.  The value is the promise or promises, and the tangible wealth backing up the money.  Money is just a medium of exchange.  When banks create new money they are not creating anything of tangible value.  Same goes for currency.  The "money" that banks create when they take a mortgage is simply the promisory note, so the home buyer is the promisor and issuer of the mortgage loan, and the home buyer receives something of real value (a home) in exchange for the loan money of the borrower.  On the other side of this equation, the bank pays the amount of the mortgage to the seller's escrow account.  That's where the newly created dollars "went."
 
Banks were not given anything; the banks were loaned money at interest rates higher than they could obtain reinvesting that money in comparable maturities (from the Fed that was typically overnight).
01:59 AM on 05/09/2011
yeah but what about the hedge funds who have bet against these mortgages? their credit default swaps are against things that wont default, so they never get the insurance payoff. wont they be mad?
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ChasG
Unborn, unchanging, undying Universe
04:18 PM on 05/09/2011
That's what credit default swaps are about; a form of investment insurance, and not an investment.  Swaps are bought and sold for a small percentage of the total credit that is being insured.  If you get fire insurance on your home and your house doesn't burn down, you won't get the payoff.  Would that make you mad?
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12:00 AM on 05/09/2011
Neighborhoods are now faced with an ever expanding slumlord class
Squatters and drugsters in abandoned homes, broken windows, and unmowed grass
As our real estate prices are still in the tank
More and more homes go back to the banks
Some due to divorce, job loss or disease
Causing payments to stop and foreclosure to seize
Others due to deception of mortgages too easy to obtain
While underwriting rules banks induced to abstain
While too many went into homes they could not afford
With payments they were quickly gored
For a bank to foreclose is to capital lose
Worst add to a declining neighborhood's woos
Why not modify the loans to keep them out of default
Some loss of capital but not enough to break a vault
And when a house changes hands as most usually will
The loan holder recovers from the proceeds in the till.
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Realtors Are Liars
NAR is CORRUPT
11:31 PM on 05/08/2011
This saga needs to end.

If you're a mortgagee and you wrongly foreclosed on a mortgager, FIX IT.

If you're a mortgager and you defaulted for whatever reason, GET OUT of the house.

Banks need to STOP handing out money for real estate that they KNOW is grossly inflated.