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China Urges U.S. To Balance Trade By Allowing More High Tech Exports

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First Posted: 05/10/11 08:53 AM ET Updated: 07/10/11 06:12 AM ET

WASHINGTON (AP) -- China is using high-level meetings to urge the United States to allow more technology exports into the booming Chinese economy as a way of balancing trade.

The United States, meanwhile, has criticized the communist-led nation's latest crackdown on democracy advocates, arguing that long-term stability depends on respecting human rights.

Both sides issued familiar grievances at the U.S.-China Strategic and Economic Dialogue, which began in Washington on Monday, but they took pains to stress a generally positive track in relations between the two economic superpowers.

State Councilor Dai Bingguo said common interests between the world's two largest economies now make them "inseparable" and destined to grow more interdependent.

The annual two-day round of talks brings together leaders on economics, foreign policy and security. The meetings, involving scores of officials, wrap up Tuesday with news conferences.

President Barack Obama met Dai and Chinese delegation leader Vice Premier Wang Qishan after Monday's deliberations. He encouraged China to implement policies to support "balanced global growth as well as a more balanced bilateral economic relationship." On human rights, he underscored his support for freedom of expression and political participation, a White House statement said.

This year's dialogue follows a January state visit by Chinese President Hu Jintao that helped eased tensions over the U.S. arms sales to self-governing Taiwan, which Beijing regards as part of Chinese territory. The U.S. and China also have been at odds over China's intervention in currency markets, which the U.S. says has kept the value of the yuan low against the dollar, giving an unfair advantage to Chinese exporters.

Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner on Monday softened the long-standing U.S. criticism of China's economic policies, possibly in a belief that the outside pressure was proving counterproductive.

Geithner praised China's efforts, which include a decision last June to resume allowing the yuan to rise in value against the dollar after freezing the currency's value for two years during the height of the financial crisis. The yuan has risen by about 5 percent against the dollar since last summer. American manufacturers contend the yuan is still undervalued by as much as 40 percent.

The U.S. Treasury chief still urged China to allow its currency to appreciate at a faster rate and to allow Chinese consumer interest rates to rise. Both steps could help boost domestic demand and help lower America's trade deficit, which hit an all-time high with China last year.

A Chinese official, however, blamed U.S. policies for the ballooning trade gap. Commerce Minister Chen Deming told a news conference that China's currency appreciation was being carried out in a "very healthy manner." He said the United States needed to change its own policies on high-tech sales and investment as a way to spur American manufacturing.

He took aim at the U.S. screening of Chinese foreign investment proposals, contending it was neither fair nor transparent. Most recently, the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States rejected a takeover by private Chinese technology giant Huawei of a small U.S. computer company, 3Leaf, on national security grounds.

"We hope the United States can treat Chinese investment, including by state-owned enterprises, in a fair manner," he said.

U.S. companies have their own long list of complaints: limited access to Chinese markets, theft of intellectual property, widespread use in China of counterfeit software and problems in seeking redress through China's legal system.

At the ceremonial opening of the talks on Monday, Vice President Joe Biden and Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton offered blunt criticism of China's human rights record, which Beijing regards as an internal matter. Clinton later had "very candid and honest" private discussions on the issue with Dai, U.S. officials said.

Since February, Chinese authorities have questioned or detained hundreds of lawyers, activists, journalists and bloggers after anonymous calls were made on the Internet for protests emulating those that have challenged and toppled authoritarian governments in the Middle East and North Africa. No such protests have taken place in China.

"We know over the long arc of history that societies that work toward respecting human rights are going to be more prosperous, stable and successful. That has certainly been proven time and time again, but most particularly in the last months," Clinton said.

Dai said China had made progress in the area of human rights, but he did not mention the recent crackdown.

In Beijing on Tuesday, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Jiang Yu said, "No country is perfect in its human rights record and there is no one-size-fits-all human rights policy."

In unusually mild comments on a subject that Beijing is highly sensitive about, Jiang said, "China and the U.S. have different opinions in the area of human rights and we believe we can use dialogue to increase mutual understanding and mutual trust."

This year's talks for the first time included high-level military leaders from both nations, a move seen as a way to increase understanding between military commanders and reduce the risk of conflict. China's military has expanded rapidly in the past 15 years, deploying missiles and naval assets that could challenge American supremacy in the region.

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WASHINGTON (AP) -- China is using high-level meetings to urge the United States to allow more technology exports into the booming Chinese economy as a way of balancing trade. The United States, mea...
WASHINGTON (AP) -- China is using high-level meetings to urge the United States to allow more technology exports into the booming Chinese economy as a way of balancing trade. The United States, mea...
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Jeremy Lin = Game Change
12:52 PM on 05/18/2011
The US is still fighting the cold war.

google..."wolf clause."
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ResearchtheFacts
11:46 AM on 05/11/2011
China and the U.S. have different opinions in the area of human rights and we believe we can use dialogue to increase mutual understanding and mutual trust.


Yeah, one is overt the other is covert.
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ResearchtheFacts
11:44 AM on 05/11/2011
Priceless...

A Chinese official, however, blamed U.S. policies for the ballooning trade gap. Commerce Minister Chen Deming told a news conference that China's currency appreciation was being carried out in a "very healthy manner." He said the United States needed to change its own policies on high-tech sales and investment as a way to spur American manufacturing.

Why are you there?

U.S. companies have their own long list of complaints: limited access to Chinese markets, theft of intellectual property, widespread use in China of counterfeit software and problems in seeking redress through China's legal system.
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guveqzero
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10:24 AM on 05/11/2011
The US officials are living in a fantasy world. They have weakened our country to the point where we look like spoiled children. I call them globalists, the same group that hold secret meetings and perform strange rituals to make public policy. None are elected, but they control our livlihoods by every decision they make.
08:36 AM on 05/11/2011
And another thing your buddy asked why shouldn't China act in their own interest. Well, The People's Republic of China begged to be apart of the WTO. Without membership they had no clout to back their products or policy. Once a member you are expected to at least offer a fair trade scenario (we all know before you said a word) that is stretching the meaning of fair trade. They have violated every part of the Doha rounds and has never come close to offering fair trade to its members. But the WTO insures them access to every market on the planet. Currency manipulation (try to buy some yuan (reminbi) by limiting access to it currency so it cannot be freely traded on the currency market (Malaysia does this as well), dumping over production on the open market at firesale prices (steel,tires,clothes). So you wonder why countries not just the U.S. look at China with a doubtful glare (look up Japanese relationship with China and other Asian countries we should follow their lead.
08:28 AM on 05/11/2011
This is a response to DAE, who stated I don't know what I am talking about!~~ Allow me, China's beginning to end pharmaceutical industry is in its fledging stage. For example drugs that treat cancer,parkinsons,high blood and so forth are a complex drugs determined by genetics. China has not invested into the pharmaceutical industry for domestic consumption due to internal factors such as they are still a communist country, most individuals due not have access to insurance or proper medical care, the herbal medicine market still has a strangle hold on the culture. That is why a woman owned company in the U.S. has contracts to over 4500 drugs to research and develop. She actually just awarded a large contract to a drug research firm in Research Triangle Park and so has the Chinese government. Every country on the planet can mass produce vitamins (that is not high tech pharma). Also, in reducing the deficit, even you stated that we have to compete. How can you when the playing field is not even a playing field. Before any company does business in China it has to find a local partner, no foreign company gets free reign within the Chinese market. Look up the $2 billion dollar windmill factory GE just built in China. It had to have the partner to build but once the factory was built the Chinese gov't and partners pulled all contracts virtually getting a state of the art facility because GE cannot operate without a partner.
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Jeremy Lin = Game Change
01:00 PM on 05/18/2011
FYI China, in the 2nd century BC

1. invented, discovered, developed the science of endocrinology

2. Circulation of the blood

3. Circadian rhythms in the human body

Then, in the third Century AD, developed treatments for deficiency diseases

in the 7th Century Diabeties

and in the 10th Century, Immunology

remember smallpox?
07:02 AM on 05/11/2011
You can bet the Chinese came out on top of this "negotiation." They "promised" a lot, they will deliver little. They are masters of deception and manipulation. As much as Trump may be disliked I will be interested in his take on this "transaction." Geitner is hardly a negotiator. The Communist go after our propensity for compromise. They continue to build their oppressive society on our back. I fear for our future.
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01:31 AM on 05/11/2011
China is the world's largest largest pharmaceutical manufacturer...

http://www.manufacturingnews.com/news/10/0518/chinadrugs.html
You Don't Know Where Your Drugs Come From And Neither Does The FDA; U.S. Imports 90 Percent Of Its Antibiotics (And Vitamin A) From China

"China has surpassed the United States as the world's largest manufacturer of bulk drugs, vitamins and nutritional supplements and is now exporting a large portion of its production to the United States. Tens of millions of American consumers have no idea that the majority of the over-the-counter drugs they are purchasing now originate in China, where there are "relatively few regulations related to pharmaceutical exports in comparison to industrialized economies," according to a report commissioned by the U.S.-China Economic and Security Review Commission. The increasing dependence on China for active pharmaceutical ingredients and nutritional supplements "presents a range of issues for concern."

In 2008, China produced $25.7 billion worth of bulk drugs (up 23 percent from 2007), and exported $17.6 billion of that output (an increase of 30 percent over 2007). "For many years, China has been exporting more than half of its bulk drug products to nearly 200 countries," according to the study by NSD Bio Group. "As a result, China-sourced raw ingredients have a growing impact on the global pharmaceutical market."

The country is now the world's largest producer of acetominophen used in Contac, Benadryl, Excedrin, Sudafed, Theraflu and Vicks, among others..."
05:28 AM on 05/11/2011
that's scary. I wonder if there's a connection with the rise in cancer and other diseases.
07:04 AM on 05/11/2011
That is truly dangerous. Everything I look at is "made in China." No wonder we're losing jobs and falling farther and farther behind. We're wiping our middle class which will eventually doom this nation economically. Wake up Politicians and Mr. President.
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08:01 AM on 05/11/2011
From the article...

"...The United States needs two tons of heparin per month. Seventy percent of that is sourced from China, says the study. Tainted Chinese heparin (made from pig intestines and used as a blood thinner) supplied to Baxter International caused the death of 81 Americans in early 2008. After a fall-off of heparin exports in 2008, "the situation has changed in 2009," says the study. "Heparin exports for the first quarter of 2009 increased 155 percent compared to the first quarter of 2008. The price of heparin also doubled (to $4,354 per kilogram) in the first quarter of 2009."

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n the United States, virtually all companies manufacturing pharmaceuticals are inspected by the Food and Drug Administration. But not imports, which freely enter the country from factories that will never see an American inspector. From 2002 until 2006, "an average of just 15 of the 714 Chinese drug plants that export to the U.S. were actually inspected by FDA," says the study entitled, "Potential Health and Safety Impacts from Pharmaceuticals and Supplements Containing Chinese-Sourced Raw Ingredients." "At this rate, it would take more than 50 years to inspect all of the plants..."
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imusintheevening
With,without,who'll deny it's whatthe fights about
08:20 PM on 05/10/2011
I have over two million in sales to China for high tech components for research projects in China that are waiting for Export License from the US. It is frustrating because many of the high tech items the US government is stopping can be bought from Germany or other European countries with no restriction.
08:43 PM on 05/10/2011
See, that's what I tell people who are so keen on imposing trade sanctions on China. We're stabbing ourselves in the foot doing that, because the China will just increase trade with the Europeans and leave us out in the cold.
09:10 PM on 05/10/2011
As far as I understand, it's not trade sanctions. If my memory serves right, for example this article above is referring to two attempts - a small computer company and a telecommunications provider/ manufacturer - to buy companies or at least larger shares which were denied because of "national security reasons". C'mon, that wasn't like trying to buy Apple or AT&T.
What would they like them to buy? Where to invest? "Shoelace Production INC."? I mean, the US would probably sell these companies to Saudi Arabia or Bahrain without second thoughts. They sell these countries military equipment!
Same goes for the level of technology. It's hardly something they do not know already. I am all for protecting real secrets, both national security or business related. But from a German point of view: It hardly makes sense not to sell them mobile phones but bullet trains or even maglev trains.
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imusintheevening
With,without,who'll deny it's whatthe fights about
09:11 PM on 05/10/2011
exactly, thanks
09:48 PM on 05/10/2011
The so called High Tech sales are not THAT high tech anyway. It is not something that this country will be at risk if they were exported. In fact most of these high tech items are exported routinely by US companies around the world.

But as long as China is mentioned, it conjures up irrational fear in US government and the jerking reaction to block these sales for no justifiable reasons.
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imusintheevening
With,without,who'll deny it's whatthe fights about
10:17 PM on 05/10/2011
generally speaking you are correct

Having spent a lot of time looking through the export control lists, certainly some things that have nuclear or dual use military application should be carefully reviewed and sometimes blocked, but, for instance the components and equipment I have tried to export are either only useful for research science (and only available from the US - as we are ahead of our European competitors) or easily purchased from Germany without control.
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StJames
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08:10 PM on 05/10/2011
my fingers seem to have developed a lisp...sorry ;-)
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StJames
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08:09 PM on 05/10/2011
Why do we need supremacy in the region? Can someone explain that? Why should we export more high tech stuff to China? So they can copy it and sell ceheaper versions? That would be vwery short-sighted on our part.
09:14 PM on 05/10/2011
As far as I understand, the article above is referring to Chinese companies attempting to buy (or at least get major shares) in two (rather small) companies in the US lately. One was a telecom provider/ manufacturer, the other one a computer manufacturer. As far as I understood, nothing special about them.
But both were denied for reasons of national security. Somehow I do understand that China thinks this is kind of double standard if similar companies or even military equipment would be sold to Saudi Arabia or Bahrain without second thoughts.
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StJames
In absentia luci tenebrae vincunt
08:20 AM on 05/11/2011
A false equivalency...comparing China to Saudi Arabia...The Chinese are much smarter than and much better long range planners than the Saudis. 
04:03 PM on 05/10/2011
After reading a few comments, I've come to the conclusion that the posters here have no clue what they are talking about and try to spin it anyway they can to make it "a good thing" that the US is 14 trillion down the hole.
04:34 PM on 05/10/2011
It is not a good thing but you just got to pay to clear the bill.

You can not cheat others by devaluation (as debts are recorded in US Dollar denomination, not gold or silver or other forms of rare materials) or quantitative easing or blocking sales they see fit.

"Sure I owe you money ... but don't worry, my reputation is as good as gold. Just keep that I-O-U in your pocket and feel wealthy!" Wink Wink!
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olitenup
06:02 PM on 05/10/2011
The aircraft company mentioned in this article is one I am intimately familair. Early in the start-up process, the company had a Dept. of Defence contract where they designed and built the airframe and skins for a composite drone (unmanned) airplane. With the purchase, The People's Republic will own the intellectual property, and more importantly, they will also own the ability to now, very quickly retool, and mass produce them.

We need to stop the sale.
10:02 PM on 05/10/2011
Get over your Cold War mentality. Chinese are here to invest and will continue to invest for assets that they see fit for their companies growth. If not this one, it will be another one.

You can not stop it. Sooner or later, most of the economical activies in US and China are joint operations. There is no war between them as some of us might imagine. There is only one thing that keeps us together and that thing is extremely stable: COMMON INTERESTS.

Get over it. Chinese are here to stay, to invest and to enrich the lives of Americans who are open to diversified investments. As for those nay sayers, they will be left in the dust.
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Anabelle Lee
03:35 PM on 05/10/2011
No mystery that the system has been set up to destroy the USA and its people.
Exports up for China and unemployment up for US people, German owned Wall Street stocks go up.
Exports for China go down and employment for US people goes up, German owned Wall Street stocks go down.
But since Europeans are now advising move away from China and into the ASEAN nations, the part for China will change in the coming years if their plans do not change or the US people change and stop acting like beaten dogs on leashes.