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For Jobless, Florida Set To Become Stingiest State In America

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First Posted: 05/10/11 05:03 PM ET Updated: 07/10/11 06:12 AM ET

Thanks to a pending law, next January Florida will become the stingiest state in America when it comes to unemployment insurance benefits.

A bill awaiting Republican Gov. Rick Scott's signature will cut unemployment taxes on businesses by reducing the maximum benefits for people laid off through no fault of their own to 23 weeks. That's three fewer weeks than the standard 26 weeks provided by nearly every state for the past 50 years. And as the unemployment rate falls, benefits will diminish on a sliding scale, with a floor of just 12 weeks when the rate is 5 percent or lower.

Rep. Doug Holder, the Sarasota Republican who sponsored the bill in the Florida House of Representatives, told HuffPost the measure wouldn't harm the unemployed because the average person who draws unemployment in Florida uses only 17.7 weeks of benefits before finding work.

"If the average person is utilizing 17.7 weeks, we’ve got quite a cushion between 17.7 and 23 weeks," Holder said, adding that the bill would replenish the state's unemployment trust fund within a few years. "The most important thing for us in Florida to do is to send a message to the business community and let them know we’re open for business."

The legislation directs new claimants to participate in a skills review program to develop a plan for referring the worker to potential job opportunities, Holder added. It also makes it easier for businesses to challenge claims from former workers and provides stricter work search requirements for claimants.

“The proposed reforms provide relief to employers by weeding out individuals taking undue advantage of the system and provide relief to the unemployed by offering additional assistance to help them get back to work," bill sponsor Sen. Nancy Detert (R) said in a statement. "The bill also saves administrative costs which can be reallocated to make sure those receiving benefits are meeting the requirements of the program."

The National Employment Law Project, a worker advocacy group, has said Florida will take first place in what the group has called a "race to the bottom" once Gov. Scott signs the bill. Florida is the third state after Michigan and Missouri to cut the standard 26 weeks of benefits. The reductions in the Florida bill, which are the steepest by far, will take effect in January.

Florida is one of 25 states where the jobless are eligible for 99 weeks of unemployment benefits thanks to 73 weeks worth of federal extensions put in place to fight the recession. Unless the Republican-controlled U.S. House of Representatives is willing to reauthorize those extensions, they'll expire in January and 23 weeks of support will be all that's left in Florida.

All states require people collecting jobless aid to search for work, but the specific requirements vary by state. Floridians collecting jobless aid must search for "work that is reasonable for the claimant considering his or her background, training, abilities, and duration of unemployment," but the law doesn't specify a minimum number of job contacts, according to a 2010 report by the National Foundation for Unemployment Compensation and Workers' Compensation, a research nonprofit founded by UWC Strategic Services on Unemployment & Workers' Compensation, which lobbies on behalf of business interests on worker issues.

The new law will require workers to prove they've contacted at least five potential employers each week, supplying the name, address, and phone number of each employer.

"Requiring submission of detailed evidence of five employer contacts each and every week through automated and voice response systems that are already strained by high workloads will only lead to more system breakdowns," said NELP director Christine Owens in a statement. "These kinds of mandates will inevitably and unnecessarily impose major new administrative burdens on the state’s unemployment insurance program, cause more payment delays, and undoubtedly frustrate and discourage some workers from filing for unemployment insurance they have earned."

The bill also broadens the definition of "misconduct" to include behavior outside the workplace or work hours, which NELP says goes beyond the standard in most states. Dough Holmes, president of the UWC, said that while many states might not have such broad misconduct statutes, legal cases have set standards for out-of-office behavior being considered misconduct if it reflects badly on a business.

The Florida Chamber of Commerce, which strongly supported the legislation, said it cuts down on waste and fraud. “One of the big things we hear from our members is frustration from having fired or dismissed individuals for misconduct and the employee having filed for benefits immediately after they’ve left," said Teye Reeves, policy director for the chamber.

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Thanks to a pending law, next January Florida will become the stingiest state in America when it comes to unemployment insurance benefits. A bill awaiting Republican Gov. Rick Scott's signature wi...
Thanks to a pending law, next January Florida will become the stingiest state in America when it comes to unemployment insurance benefits. A bill awaiting Republican Gov. Rick Scott's signature wi...
 
 
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11:03 AM on 05/14/2011
I can't understand who voted for Rick Scott - just as I could never understand who voted for G W Bush. Scott is arrogant, and apparently COMPLETELY OUT OF TOUCH. I suspect his 'Vision' for Florida is for us to simply become another '3rd world entity', and use the unemployed as slave labor. Florida can become a state where the 'Haves' hire their less fortunate/unemployed/lower income neighbors to mow their grass for $3.00 (period). This strategy is not innovative. It was around in Feudal times. Is there a way to remove/impeach a state Governor?
10:12 AM on 05/12/2011
Kicking People when they are down. Wow what Courage.
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treadway123
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01:01 PM on 05/12/2011
What they are saying is;"If your unemployed, your a drain on our state, so get the heck out if u don't find a job in 17 to 23 weeks"Unemployment pay goes right back into the economy, like no other revenue does! Florida has to put a reasonable time to cut unemployment back. But it should be case by case! If a man has a habit of jumping from job to job, he's a high risk to get an maintain employment unless pushed to do so. If you have a man who has maintained the same employment 3 to 20 years you know they are a good risk to find a job as fast as they can. It's a simple fair way to review who should/should not get extended unemployment. Weed out the lazy ones!
08:12 AM on 05/12/2011
my advice for younger people,DO NOT MOVE TO FLORIDA! ---------it's beganning to cost a fortune just t0 survive here-------do not retire here
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beachyg
06:49 AM on 05/12/2011
Way to go Florida and Rick Scott. Where's the JOBS Rick?? HUH??
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treadway123
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01:04 PM on 05/12/2011
If Scott has worked as hard to create jobs as he has to destroy medicare/medicaid an break the laws---------he wouldn't have to worry about unemployment being so high!
06:17 PM on 05/13/2011
Lies
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alongst
too often denied to speak
11:58 PM on 05/11/2011
Smart move for Florida- now all the public leeches will move to other, more Liberal states- until they implode.
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procrustes13
10:24 PM on 05/11/2011
Milton Friedman's genius means that governments are committed to unemployment rates over 6% - that's called the Non-Accelerating Inflation Rate of Unemployment.  Funny how they fail to mention this to the bayong mob demanding the punishment of the unemployed for doing their service in allegedly stopping accelerating inflation.
06:56 PM on 05/11/2011
no one says what they will do with the money saved typical fl gov really think this state is being run by goofy cause mickey quit he axed the rail that cost a lot of temp and perment jobs for us . if he wants to save money maybe he should start sending some of these illeagles back we get them from all over cuba, hatti, mexico, purto rico ,columbia , just jump in a boat come on over to fl how bout getting serious about putting fines on employers that hire illeagles not some slap on the wrist but a kidney punch put that money into retraing people like myself who have only knowen hard honest work ! give us a chance to compete with the more skilled or the better educated .come on break out of the norm be inavative JUST DO SOMTHING
08:43 AM on 05/12/2011
Hate to break it to you bud, but Puerto Ricans aren't considered illegals.
05:12 PM on 05/18/2011
maybe not as a country but you can not tell me that all purto ricans have a ss# and pay taxes that makes them illegal
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10:18 PM on 05/17/2011
Not one period or sentence in that rant. Every word that is misspelled has red wavy underlining as it's being typed in. Your comment is incomprehensible because of those deficiencies.
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byronic
06:52 PM on 05/11/2011
GOP on the jobless: "Let them eat dirt."

I think we have heard something like that before. Didn't it lead to the loss of many people's heads?
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spinotter11
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10:19 PM on 05/17/2011
Most of those who were guillotined had nothing to do with the poverty and oppression that obtained in France in 1789.
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johnottr28
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05:24 PM on 05/11/2011
What is going on in Florida. Who is running that state. Leaders of Florida, you are suppose to help the people of your state not give huge tax breaks to the rich.
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procrustes13
10:25 PM on 05/11/2011
A criminal is running it.  A man found guilty by a court of law of the largest Medicare fraud in history. Naturally he personally wasn't convicted, the corporation he controlled was so in this say he got out of being disqualified from running for office for reasons of commiting a felony.
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treadway123
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01:08 PM on 05/12/2011
All scott/Florida Congress has to do is ask for their fair share of the oil sub's they discontinue to give in tax breaks/returns. Stop Bush Tax cuts an take their fair share of that for their states. Raise tax's on the Big Corperation, millionairs, billionairs an their ya go. Help balance the Florida budget, money for job creation an etc.
11:08 AM on 05/14/2011
How do we convey this to our so-called leaders? I have tried writing Republicans and Democrats. I don't think anyone is listening/cares. Apparently, the Leaders are simply people interested in personal gain. Period.
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04:53 PM on 05/11/2011
370 school teachers just retired.
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09:25 PM on 05/11/2011
The schools in Florida are now being run by volunteers, if they all walked out they would shut down.
think about that
06:57 AM on 05/12/2011
It's a good start...
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08:48 AM on 05/12/2011
There is something very unAmerican with people like you
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cdecisneros
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12:05 PM on 05/13/2011
So who is going to teach then? You? The Tea baggers. And Education majors are changing their major. Hello?
04:21 PM on 05/11/2011
IT'S TIME TO GET TUFF IN EVERY STATE . AND CRACK DOWN ON A LOT OF ITEM INCLUDING THE UNEMPLOYED AND ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS .
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johnottr28
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05:26 PM on 05/11/2011
LMFAO! Great Post! Just so profound! Now go back under that rock you just crawled out from!
08:46 AM on 05/12/2011
TYPING IN CAPS MAKES IT LOOK LIKE I"M SHOUTING ON THE INTERNET!

Guess you're one angry guy, huh?
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treadway123
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01:15 PM on 05/12/2011
I am with ya, but first we stop the oil sub's we give them in billion of dollars! We than Tax big corperation,millionairs,billionairs their fair share! Than we can look at a way to revamp unemployment to weed out the dead beats with out hurting the ones who have worked hard an earned it. If you want to end illegal immigrant than start with the comprehensive reform first an join Obama on that, than u can be made to undersstand that under this president he TRIPLED the amount of illegals picked up an sent back, an he's raised the fines for corperations caught hireing them! So u want to change things come on, were ready too!
03:27 PM on 05/11/2011
Unemplyment benefits should last just 12 weeks,3 months.

Then,whoever had the prudence to save money,will enjoy the benefits of his virtues...
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angry in ct
You can't fight in here, this is the war room
08:30 PM on 05/11/2011
Uh, one question.

How did you arrive at that particuar length of time that unemployment benefits should last?

Did you just get elected to political office or something? (SInce you seem like a bagger/neocon tr0//lie, maybe in your own warped mind you did get elected).
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treadway123
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01:19 PM on 05/12/2011
U want them to save while getting unemployment? How? A family of 3 single mom earning $10.15 hr. in a nurseing home can bearly feed,cloths, school cost, Rent, untilites, medical, with what they take out of her pay in Medicare/FICA/Federal/State tax! U don't know what u are talking about!
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Netflyer
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01:29 PM on 05/11/2011
Let's end welfare to the Oil Companies!! They don't need tax breaks, they have record profits, period. QUit firing teachers and start making the Oil Companies pay up!
02:32 PM on 05/11/2011
More populist rhetoric based on NOTHING. The facts are the oil companies pay billions in taxes.
The FACTS are the oil companies paid 26 BILLION in taxes in 2008...........and Obama's buddies at GE.............ZERO.

The FACTS are Exxon-Mobil, who liberals LOVE to parrot they made "record profits". Exxon-Mobil's record first-quarter earnings on their "record profits" works out to a profit of 7 cents a gallon.

The FACTS are during the same first-quarter the governments taxes totaled 48 cents a gallon-seven times LARGER than Exxon-Mobil's profit, which Democrats called "obscene".
EXxxon Mobil's 7 cents per gallon profit is, according to Democrats, "obscene" yet 48 cents per gallon in government taxes is not????

The effects of Obama's energy polices are "COMING HOME TO ROOST" with $4.00-$7.00 per gallon gas and Dems ...... in Dem fashion........ are pointing the finger of blame elsewhere.
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johnottr28
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05:27 PM on 05/11/2011
Where I live gas is $8.00. Where do you get gas so cheap at $4.00.
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Netflyer
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07:37 PM on 05/11/2011
I love that characterization, 'Populist rhetoric', love it - thank you!

As opposed to 'Corporate Rhetoric' I choose my side of the coin, and if I echo the population I suppose you got the guns but we got the numbers, eh?
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SpongeBrad
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01:29 PM on 05/11/2011
See Gov Scott did not lie, based on all the new trollies on this thread i would guess he already created at least 10 new jobs.
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pooka47401
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01:07 PM on 05/11/2011
WRONG!! Michigan, Missouri, Florida and Indiana (whom no one is mentioning) are all taking unemployment from 26 weeks to 20 weeks.
Mitch Daniels seems to have signed his bill with little notice. Rachel Maddow covered this story last night but she failed to mention Mitch Daniels, prospective Republican contender for the Presidential nomination.
01:09 PM on 05/11/2011
Go Mitch!
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procrustes13
10:27 PM on 05/11/2011
Those in the reserve army of labour by order of government to hit the NAIRU targets to prevent alleged "accelerating inflation" must be punished for that fact. Milton Friedman, what delicious tortures you have devised... inventing this NAIRU forcing people in a situation to be punished by order of a baying mob!
06:23 PM on 05/21/2011
well I guess all these gov's are in with each other to cut unemployment weeks, they sure love the down and out don't they. Jane