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HSBC Continues Freeze On Home Seizures

First Posted: 05/11/11 01:32 PM ET Updated: 07/11/11 06:12 AM ET

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HSBC Continues Freeze On Home Seizures

HSBC North America Holdings, the ninth-largest U.S. bank by assets, told investors Wednesday that the bank's moratorium on home seizures continues in some jurisdictions and it will be "a number of months" before the bank fully resumes foreclosing on defaulted borrowers.

The lender did not specify in filings with federal regulators where it continues to restrict home repossessions or how many borrowers have been affected. HSBC handles more than 892,000 home loans, making it the 12th-largest mortgage servicer in the U.S., according to the Federal Reserve.

The foreclosure freeze, which started last autumn, came on the heels of months-long criminal and civil probes by federal and state regulators into lenders' faulty mortgage practices. The nation's largest lenders voluntarily halted home repossessions when flawed document practices -- like so-called "robo-signing" -- came to light and erupted into a nationwide scandal. Officials subsequently found that the nation's largest mortgage firms illegally seized the homes of at least dozens of borrowers and engaged in shoddy practices that allegedly deceived local courts, broke numerous state laws and federal rules, and short-changed distressed borrowers.

HSBC, though, did not halt home seizures until after Nov. 5, according to its filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Many of its competitors froze new foreclosures a few months earlier.

HSBC's two major U.S. subsidiaries, HSBC Finance Corp. and HSBC Bank USA, disclosed that its moratoria continue in certain parts of the country due to defective foreclosure practices.

"We have resumed foreclosures on a limited basis in certain geographies," the two divisions reported to investors. "It will be a number of months before we resume foreclosures in all jurisdictions as we need to ensure we are satisfied that applicable enhanced processes have been implemented."

HSBC initiated more than 43,000 home foreclosures in 2009 and 2010, according to the Fed.

HSBC's admission underscores the difficulty firms face trying to weed out faulty practices that went on for years before they were recently discovered.

By taking shortcuts in processing troubled borrowers' home loans, the nation's five largest mortgage firms have saved more than $20 billion since the housing crisis began in 2007, according to a confidential presentation prepared for state attorneys general by the nascent Bureau of Consumer Financial Protection and obtained by The Huffington Post in March.

That estimate, which did not measure HSBC's savings, suggests that the nation's largest banks reaped tremendous benefits by under-serving distressed homeowners, a complaint that appeared frequently enough that federal regulators finally acknowledged the industry's fundamental shortcomings and took action.

"We have already made several key procedural improvements to enhance our foreclosure processes as a result of our own internal reviews," HSBC's U.S.-based units disclosed in securities filings.

Spokesmen for the firm did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

In April, the lender was one of 14 mortgage firms to be sanctioned for their sloppy practices by the Fed and the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency.

State attorneys general, Obama administration officials and representatives from the nation's five largest mortgage firms -- Bank of America, JPMorgan Chase, Wells Fargo, Citigroup and Ally Financial -- are meeting this week outside Washington, D.C. to discuss standards governing their treatment of delinquent borrowers and remedies for past abuses. Some state and Obama administration officials want to levy fines approaching $30 billion -- a few officials want even larger fines. The targeted banks said Tuesday they'd collectively pay $5 billion to settle all claims.

Government officials balked at the offer, according to sources involved in the discussions who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

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HSBC North America Holdings, the ninth-largest U.S. bank by assets, told investors Wednesday that the bank's moratorium on home seizures continues in some jurisdictions and it will be "a number of mon...
HSBC North America Holdings, the ninth-largest U.S. bank by assets, told investors Wednesday that the bank's moratorium on home seizures continues in some jurisdictions and it will be "a number of mon...
 
 
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11:57 PM on 05/12/2011
I should add that bigger banks may survive....but smaller ones have it worse.

Then again, we saw a few big banks go under like WaMu.

If housing stabilizes and more people pay their mortgages, things may stabilize, though deregulation is still the law of the land and future wreckage is inevitable.

The problem is that those at the TOP take the cream (money) and the banks (and businesses) can be left to fail.

To me, many banks are far from out of the woods, not as long as so many toxic loans and toxic real estate remains.

IMHO only.....we the people do NOT know what is going on behind closed bank, Wall Street, and government doors. And it is NOT pretty.

******Bush KNEW the social security fund had been "looted" by the politicians and that is probably why he tried to convince the American people to have private SS accounts instead.
To hide the looting and poor judgement.
Now?
We all know about it.
11:49 PM on 05/12/2011
The bank Big Shots are making obscene amounts of money.

However, the banks themselves are in big trouble.
They have TOO MANY toxic mortgage loans....
They can't easily foreclose AND they can't get rid of the bad loans.

They have TOO MANY bad loans and not enough money in the banks to cover the inevitable fallout.

Another BIG problem with the banks needing BIG help from the government.....4....3....2.....

********I sure HOPE I am completely wrong, folks.
My country and its people need me to be wrong on all my pessimistic predictions.

I am just giving my opinions on the topics.
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11:40 PM on 05/11/2011
The Underling heard that: HSBC is owned by WellsFargo & Co, who received money through the TARP program. Trade Bank was establishe­d in 1995 as a joint venture between Wells Fargo & Company (WFC) and Hong Kong Shanghai Banking Corporatio­n Group (HSBC). WFC owns 60% of the Trade Bank and HSBC owns the remaining 40%.
In 1998 the former Wells Fargo Company & Wells Fargo HSBC Trade Bank, acquired Norwest Asset Security Corp, NASCOR, the largest producer of non-confor­ming mortgage products in the industry. WFC, headquarte­red in San Francisco, CA is the fifth largest bank holding company in the U.S., with consolidat­ed total assets of close to 600 billion. WFC provides Trade Bank’s funding sources in the form of deposits and borrowings
John Stumpf stated in testimony WFC does not do submprime mortgages! John Stumpf didn’t know that Norwest's supply chain for subprime exists in 50 states for all Alt-A instrument­s. Associated names: America's Mortgage Company, America's Servicing,
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cliffydoobie
No,YOU stop drinking the kool-aid
08:15 PM on 05/11/2011
So that's what happened to all the HSBC foreclosure and eviction business.
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Jack Daniels Esq
Hold the ice
04:34 AM on 05/12/2011
They dont have the room to park almost a million homes - is what
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byronic
06:58 PM on 05/11/2011
If the banks had to revalue their loan portfolios at current Market value, how many would be bankrupted as a consequence?
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Jack Daniels Esq
Hold the ice
04:35 AM on 05/12/2011
I can already hear Obama saying - lets rescue the bad guys - again
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joni brit
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02:41 PM on 05/12/2011
that's an amazing question!! Never thought of it that way. With foreclosures they can collect insurance based on the old market value, and make money with credit default swaps also. Maybe that's why people who lost their homes to foreclosure watched the Bank then resell their home for 1/4 sometimes 1/8 what they were on the hook for. Because the Bank had been repaid the old full market value sometimes two and three times. Banks always win. It's just so very very sad when you see these children who have watched their parents dreams shatter. All these disrupted lives, it just takes years and years to get back on track, if ever.
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06:47 PM on 05/11/2011
And when HSBC, BofA resume foreclosures, look out. Massive price declines are on the way.
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rightvsleftsux
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11:27 AM on 05/12/2011
Your profile is ridiculous. You are trolling all of the housing market articles. You have zero understanding of equity. Your screen name says it all.
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Realtors Are Liars
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12:06 PM on 05/12/2011
Prices are falling... Your fantasy "equity" is evaporating.

Yes..... my screen name indeed says it all. See? You're catching on!
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06:19 PM on 05/11/2011
They know what they did...
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06:15 PM on 05/11/2011
Renegotiate mortgages to keep families there that can pay and fine them as much as possible. Also get rid of MERS.
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jayburd
05:20 PM on 05/11/2011
Jeez, I wish mine had been one of those jurisdictions. HSBC kicked us out of our home in February...
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05:07 PM on 05/11/2011
Not all conservatives are clueless about the mortgage industry. Certainly not those of us in the business. I am a title insurance agent/abstractor currently handling mostly REOs. When you examine about 40 foreclosure files a month you have a pretty good idea about what is going wrong.

If you want all the shady practices to stop, make sure every single mortgage originator, be it a bank or broker, retains scanned or hard copies of the loan application, documentation, lender's guidelines, GFE, TIL, HUD, mortgage/TD, note, allonge, riders, assignments, etc. in the borrower's loan file and the originals are forwarded to the lender.

When a note/mortgage is assigned, the assignor again retains either hard or scanned copies for their permanent records of this paperwork and sends the originals of EVERYTHING down the line to the assignee.

At the time a mortgage is securitized, the bank in charge of securitization should be responsible for scrutinizing the ORIGINAL paperwork accompanying each loan to insure it complies exactly with the original lender's guidelines and is not missing bits and pieces.

These "scrutinizers" should be well versed in spotting fraudulent documentation and put a halt on any questionable loan.

What you have here is a chain of responsibility. The next link examines the previous link's paperwork. It doesn't hold up the process more than necessary and tends to keep paper pushers honest.
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05:00 PM on 05/11/2011
did they resume foreclosures in non-judical foreclosure states where they have more chance not to have to provide documents or go before a judge? why are these non-judicial foreclosures legal ? it seems to take away due process for people?
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05:17 PM on 05/11/2011
Fanned & faved, especially for questioning the legality of nonjudicial foreclosures.
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03:24 PM on 05/11/2011
This is not the real America, its big business, republicans' are for big business and nothing more that is until the next election when they get kicked out.
04:53 PM on 05/11/2011
Get a grip. This is the real America. Your small business, market based capitalism went out with Reagan, and Obama isn't falling over himself to bring it back. AT&T/T-Mobile; Comcast/NBC; Intel/MacAfee; MSFT/Skype; BAC/Merrli Lynch are all monopolistic anti-competitive consolidations that would never have been allowed, now standard practice.
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05:03 PM on 05/11/2011
Hi "UtahSlim" are you talking about Obama, "friend" of man who has billions of "friends" :)
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10:10 PM on 05/11/2011
No country in this world allows such monopolistic corporations and decline in customer protection except USA. One simply has to compare AT&T fees and services with that of T-Mobile to understand what you mean. The sad part is that when Obama tried to stop it, the GOP quickly cried backdoor socialism and people believing them promptly voted them in the mid-terms. Now we pay.
12:19 PM on 05/13/2011
Big Business is the only America we have now. The idealist dreams of a great country are over, and we run the country by campaign contributions to the next puppet ! Elections are now a farce!
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12:58 PM on 05/13/2011
Hi "Betty", give Obama another four years, and we will see oriented from his new administration better results for this country.
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02:42 PM on 05/11/2011
I am betting that they are having a problem with having sold a ton of those mortgages overseas. I seem to remember something about that corporation being owned in part of foreign interests. Don't remember exactly what now, but they were in trouble in England.
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02:22 PM on 05/11/2011
My brother has a HSBC mortgage, when he lost his job they agreed to lower the interest rate and add the couple of payments he was behind onto the "end" of his loan. What he didn't know until much later was they were hitting his credit every month with late pays even though his monthly statement showed no past due amount. Totally ruined his credit, when he called them they basically said to bad.
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HighSierra1981
Is there no sanity left?
04:20 PM on 05/11/2011
Yes, I used to work for them and am ashamed of the things we did. My experience with HSBC turned me to activism
04:42 PM on 05/11/2011
Where did you work? In the U.S.? East coast? California?
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cats530
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05:18 PM on 05/11/2011
Ooooh, whistleblower time! Please consider it.
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kmswriter
This mean we can't be friends?
02:11 PM on 05/11/2011
I say - everyone call AZ Rep Carl Seel - 602-926-3018 - he got a loan mod 2 days before he was going to add an amendment to a bill in the state house AZ re:loan mods in AZ - then he, for some reason decided (after he got 100,000 knocked off his mortgage, now 88,000) not to submit the amendment - saying he was too late to the legislature session to submit it...pathetic

Seems totally bazaar - I think this could look like - what is that legal term?????
02:43 PM on 05/11/2011
Thanks for the tip. I'm going to call right away to get some helpful advice. You know - from one predatory mortgage victim to another.

Also, if there are any HSBC investors out there reading this article, give me a call. I'd be happy to explain how hard I've tried to keep my loan in the performing category over the past four years, only to have HSBC dump me into the default group time and time again. I have hundreds of pages of documentation available for your review.
02:50 PM on 05/11/2011
Where can i find this info?
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