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Sex Ranking List Of Girls At Oak Park-River Forest High School Not Criminal, Expert Says

First Posted: 05/12/11 09:57 AM ET Updated: 07/12/11 06:12 AM ET

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A 17-year-old high school student from a Chicago suburb was arrested Monday for allegedly creating and distributing a list of 50 classmates ranked in terms of their sexual desirability.

To be sure, it must have been humiliating for these girls to be derided with nicknames like "Fallen Angel," "Blond Bombshell" and "The Hangover" -- and to have their body parts and supposed level of promiscuity rated on a 10-point ranking system -- while the lunchroom gang howled in amusement.

But as troubling as these accusations are, could a charge of misdemeanor disorderly conduct, which the boy now faces, possibly stick?

Not according to one expert.

"I don't know how they came to the conclusion that this is criminal," Mark Gottesman, a veteran criminal defense attorney in Santa Monica, Calif., told The Huffington Post.

"The list" -- as the infamous document is simply being called -- "was posted online and a printed copy was circulated at the high school," David Powers, a spokesman for the Oak Park Police Department told The Huffington Post.

Dale Jones, father of one of the girls, told Sun-Times Media he was happy to receive news of the teenager's arrest but that he was concerned the charge was not serious enough.

"I'm gratified that the investigation continued, and that charges are being filed," Jones said. "I'm hopeful they consider additional charges as they gather more evidence."

Gottesman said he recognizes that the teen's alleged behavior should not be brought into a school environment, but also said the teen has certain rights of his own that are protected.

"He obviously offended people but he also has a right to free speech," the attorney said. "Obviously, it could cause frustration or hurt to the young women involved and I can understand that -- I would be genuinely upset of I were a parent in that situation -- but this is not criminal."

The alleged incident occurred in January, when the defendant allegedly created "the list," according to officials at Oak Park-River Forest High School. He is accused of distributing a four-page copy of it on the social networking website Facebook, as well as passing out physical copies at the school.

"The girls were ranked using derogatory nicknames," Katherine Foran, communications director for the high school, told the Huffington Post. "There were some racial, ethnic slurs [and] much of it was about their alleged peccadilloes."

Foran likened the list to a similar one in "The Social Network," where Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg, portrayed by actor Jesse Eisenberg, rated college co-eds.

"The list came out the same week that 'Social Network' received [eight] Oscar [nominations], so it resonated because here was an abusive use of Facebook and girls were ranked," Foran said.

Officials at the school became aware of the list on Jan. 14, when the alleged creator distributed it at the school during lunch to a cheering crowd of students. One of the girls on the list told Chicago's CBS Channel 2 News she was humiliated.

"When you know that many people are reading some really personal things about you, it's going to affect you some way," the girl said.

In the wake of the incident, several reports surfaced, indicating the student had been expelled for his alleged actions, but Foran said that was not the case.

"Within the same week this was going on, the boy's legal guardians withdrew him from the school," she said. "So, the school did not pursue disciplinary action [because] he was no longer a student."

Foran said the school focused their attention on "counseling and working through these issues with the girls."

The high school principal, Nathaniel L. Rouse, also addressed students who found the list humorous via a PA announcement. He said, in part:

"How many of you cheered as the student distributed the list and took a bow in the Student Center after a speech? Were you one of the students who raced to grab your own copy? Did you eagerly scan the ugly words about your classmates instead of throwing the paper in the trash? ...

If you answered yes to any of the questions I just asked, then you have to own that you, too, played a role in the resulting hurt and pain. And you should be disappointed in yourself."

According to Powers, authorities have spent the last four months working with the Cook County State's Attorney's office to build a case against the teen. The disorderly conduct charge was filed on Monday, and the boy was processed and released into the custody of his parents.

Powers declined to comment further, saying: "He is a minor [so] there is not much that can be said about it."

Whether or not the teen will contest the charge against him is yet to be seen. The alleged victims can, however, still try to hold him accountable in a court of law, according to Gottesman.

"This would be a civil case, meaning the parents of the girls could sue the child or the guardian of the child," the attorney said. "What he published might not have been true, so that could be libel. It depends on his rating system and if what he was saying is untrue."

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A 17-year-old high school student from a Chicago suburb was arrested Monday for allegedly creating and distributing a list of 50 classmates ranked in terms of their sexual desirability. To be sure,...
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07:49 AM on 06/10/2011
There are many comments about people talking about for example celebrities and posted as well as distributed online. Are those criminal? No. Freedom of speech? Yes. Libel? No, they are opinion.
This is no different.
We should stop wasting resources on cases which doesn't harm people physically. That's why America's court system is stupid. People sue left and right for some of the dumbest reasons.
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Tallulah Morehead
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10:41 PM on 05/18/2011
It's called Freedom of Speech and Expression. The school needs to teach it, not try to overrule it.
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Citygirllost
09:49 AM on 05/18/2011
Libel? Slander? Aren't these both options to pursue?
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Tallulah Morehead
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10:34 PM on 05/18/2011
How is it libel or slander? He's just giving his opinions, and people hate them so much, they're trying to find a way to make what is CLEARLY protected by The First Amendment into something criminal. Is it in bad taste? Yes. Is it rude? Yes, but so what? The First Amendment PROTECTS Bad Taste. Good taste doesn't need defending.
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ElBruce
09:20 PM on 05/17/2011
I remember there was a South Park episode about girls compiling such a list of the boys. This is something that kids have done for ages.
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Bobrobert
Go God... Jesus rocks... the Spirit is very cool..
07:43 AM on 05/17/2011
:-)

Another day in the pit...

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squat6971
59 *was* divine -- 60? not so much
02:25 PM on 05/16/2011
So People's Top 50 -- illegal?

Some people (no pun intended) need to get a life, and leave the kids alone.
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kadellagroove
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01:25 AM on 05/15/2011
haha arrested?!?! every single grocery store magazine known to man does this like every other month. Give me a break... someone needs to start arresting the adults who keep pulling BS like this.

Give him a detention and let him walk the halls of his high school with 50 teenage girls who hate him. thats punishment enough.
11:04 AM on 05/14/2011
Is this the Onion? Boy rates the looks of fellow classmates in a "list". I recall girls doing similar "lists" I guess ones opinion depends on the thickness of your skin and or how good looking you happen to be. Give the kid a Sat. detention and move on with life.
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karela
08:24 PM on 05/13/2011
Whatever happened to punishment for bad behavior handed out at school and home? Kids have always done bad stuff but now it automatically goes to the police and they go to jail instead of to the principal's office. We have become the nation in all the world that imprisons the most people per capita----including China. It eats up our resources, it doesn't work very well and it wastes far too many lives. Make the kid scrub the toilets with a toothbrush and mow lawns all summer but don't send him to jail. I concur that this was a VERY lousy thing to do to the girls.
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Sara Power
06:14 PM on 05/15/2011
But that wouldn't recklessly spend taxpayer dollars. Isn't the goal to waste as much money punishing these kids as possible and ruin as many lives as possible while the kids are young. Why spend that money on education when we can spend it on the legal system.
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03:36 PM on 05/13/2011
Wow...so much over-reaction going on there. Nice to know that there are no safety problems in that city and the police has so much time in its hands.
02:36 PM on 05/13/2011
This is another Great reason to Home School your kids. Public and even some private schools are breeding grounds for Trash kids to grow up in.
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broui
No d#%& cat. No d#%& cradle.
09:12 AM on 05/15/2011
No. You're simply wrong.

School are places of learning - put simply. Public schools must take everyone. They don't get to pick and choose. The truth is because of the caustic, irrational, unpatriotic, behavior of legislators in both parties, we have stripped the education system of its ability to make reasoned, human decisions on the ground, in the moment. We micro-manage administrators and teachers to the point of ineffectiveness and then blame them for it.

Your solution is to now avoid the thing altogether. Shame on you. You're a member of this society. Roll up your sleeves and help fix it.
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Tanishh
07:51 AM on 05/17/2011
As a 'trash' kid who went to public school for most of my pre university schooling, allow me to say that you couldn't be more wrong and that most of the people I know went to public school and are doing just fine, thanks.
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cadawa
02:04 PM on 05/13/2011
What do parents and educators expect when children are surrounded by the hypersexuality of commercial media 24/7. Isn't a bit hypocritical to draw the line and still condone the 'sex sells'.
01:48 PM on 05/13/2011
This is nothing more then kids being kids. Don't anyone remember "slam" books that were made up in school in the 80's? I remember everyone having them and wanting to add their "two cents" to them. Stop being hypocrites...I am sure that most of us saw far worse then this when we went to school.
02:37 PM on 05/13/2011
So, since We had to endure it it is OK for Our Kids to have to? I think NOT. It was Wrong THEN and is still wrong.
11:02 AM on 05/14/2011
Really? I think even name calling in general was Wrong "THEN" and is still wrong. Than being said it is not illegal. Some boys will always objectify girls just as some girls will always manipulate boys.
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11:39 AM on 05/13/2011
Well I think the boy is a creep and future sexual harassment charge waiting to happen, in this case going to the police took it way to far. Criminal charges, really?! Overreaction much? Suspension, detention, okay...using the police department to gather evidence for this case for four months, when they could be taking on real criminals. The girls in the story need counseling, yes, some of them, some may have liked the attention (sorry, just being truthful). Maybe focus on helping the girls who need it would be a better use of time.
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Ed Baker
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02:25 PM on 05/13/2011
What a waste of public money - for the police to spend FOUR MONTHS on this?

Some people need to get FIRED in COOK COUNTY - RIGHT NOW.
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KDMac
It's called sarcasm, Genius.
04:39 PM on 05/13/2011
Real life isn't like TV, Ed. Investigations take more than an hour.
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