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Recent College Grads Are Hit Hard By The Recession

College Grads

GEOFF MULVIHILL   05/18/11 01:59 PM ET   AP

A new survey of college graduates from the last five years finds that the Great Recession has hit them hard, forcing them into low-paying jobs often unrelated to their educations and leaving half of them expecting less financial success than their parents.

Don't blame a spoiled generation, says Cliff Zukin, a Rutgers University political science and public policy professor who was co-author of the study.

"Eighty-three percent of them worked when they were in college," he said. "They're making sacrifices to go through with this and they're coming out without a great job and with debt. That's not a great situation."

What's so disheartening for Zukin is that only about one-fourth of U.S. adults are graduates of four-year colleges. If the most educated are facing such difficulties, it shows just how sluggish the labor market was during the recession – and remains now. Zukin has previously studied unemployed older workers, many of whom are giving up on ever finding meaningful work again. Put it together, and it gives a dismal view of a broad span of the workforce.

The median starting salary for those who graduated between 2006 and 2008 was $30,000. For the 2009 and 2010 grads, it dipped to $27,000. And women graduates continued to make less than men.

Zukin said that with future salaries dependent on the initial one, it could mean the recent grads will have lower earnings throughout their careers.

Nearly half the graduates say they're working at jobs that don't require a college education. And many of those who left those first jobs didn't find a better situation.

Seven in 10 said their educational background had some relationship to their first job. But for those who are now working elsewhere, only about 6 in 10 say their work is in the field they studied.

In other words, not all computer science graduates are going from baristas to programmers. Many are going to jobs at other coffee shops.

And graduates are reliant on their parents financially.

Nearly half say they're subsidized in some way by their parents or other family members, including more than 1 in 5 who live with relatives.

While 85 percent have health insurance coverage, only half have it through work. Nearly one-fourth are covered by a relative's plan.

Alex Shephard, 23, graduated from Ohio's Oberlin College two years ago with a degree in English. He hasn't had what he calls a real job since then.

He used money he made as a camp counselor the first summer after graduation to spend the fall with his girlfriend, who was on a fellowship in Berlin.

"I remember part of the thinking behind that thinking was that when I come back, then the recession will be over," he said.

After returning to the U.S., he still couldn't find a full-time job. The Elmira, N.Y., native crashed with friends in Buffalo and looked futilely for work there. Then, he borrowed money from his parents to move to Philadelphia for a year, where he sometimes found freelance work like editing technical manuals for companies.

He's now living in New York City, babysitting, tending to a literary website he and other underemployed friends founded and doing some freelance writing and editing. Over two years, he's applied for scores of jobs and landed only a few interviews.

His highest monthly earnings have totaled around $3,000, but he has experienced more months in which only a few hundred dollars has trickled in. He's now on his parents' health insurance, but there was a stretch when he lacked any coverage.

"I'm still optimistic about my employability," Shephard said. "Despite all evidence to the contrary."

But Shephard is not optimistic that he'll make the kind of money his father, a history professor, has made.

The Rutgers poll finds that he's not alone in having a dreary financial outlook.

The nation's hope – most often delivered, historically – is that each generation does better than the last.

That optimism isn't there for the recent graduates.

About half say they personally don't expect to do as well as their parents. And 56 percent say their generation won't do as well as their parents' generation.

The poll was conducted March 15-April 5 by Knowledge Networks for the John J. Heldrich Center for Workforce Development at Rutgers, in New Brunswick, N.J. Knowledge Networks used traditional telephone and mail sampling methods to randomly recruit respondents. People selected who had no Internet access were given it for free. The nationwide study polled 571 people in their 20s who graduated from of public and private four-year colleges between 2006 and 2010. The sampling error is plus or minus 4 percentage points.

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A new survey of college graduates from the last five years finds that the Great Recession has hit them hard, forcing them into low-paying jobs often unrelated to their educations and leaving half of t...
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01:13 PM on 05/21/2011
Not doing better than my parents? That's a scary thought. My parents graduated college at the height of the early 70's recession. It took my mother a year to get a job as a civil engineer. My father had to go back to school several times before he was making real money and became truly employable. Since we lived in San Francisco and my mother was supporting my father, my brother, my sister and I, we lived smack right in the middle of the ghetto as a kid during the bloodbath of the 80's and early 90's. We used to hear gunshots every night, and sometimes during the day, People were murdered every month a few feet away from our house as a kid. We literally didn't have the freedom to walk down the block in our own neighborhood and the only stores around were liquor stores and corner stores deep with local thugs who might kill you for looking at them funny. One year, there were 12 people gunned down on a single corner less than a block away from our home in the early 90's. And this was the best my parents could afford as college grads in real subjects like engineering and the sciences. Could you imagine recent college grads living off worse than this? Are we going to be living in mud huts without electricity soon? Oh thats right. We'll be living in mud huts with debt collectors blowing up our precious iphones.
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knotsofast
47% pay no income tax, 47% support Obama
07:13 PM on 05/18/2011
Here you go young people. "Promises are not currency". Please get out an vote again. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2011/05/17/obamas_message_to_grads_heavy_on_platitudes_not_policy_109884.html
06:52 PM on 05/18/2011
I got my undergrad degree in '99. It was in English and I was in Michigan! Really tough then.
I took a job that created a total break in my known paradigms. I worked as a camp counselor at a summer camp that was set by Easter Seals. The experience changed my life. It was the line in the sand I needed to say farewell to K-12,1-4 schooling. The job paid $100/wk plus rm & bd.
Not lucrative. It kick started me in to the work place. I suggest taking work that is a shock to the system. You can do it when you are young. Good luck, class of 2012!
06:26 PM on 05/18/2011
The headline is perhaps the most obvious one in history. No kidding ... Times are hard, but these grads probably were unaware of it until this headline pointed it out. We are in danger of losing an entire generation of people to unemployment and idleness and lost dreams. Our number of people employed stands today exactly where it stood in 1999. That means that we have 12 years of job growth to make up, but no one in either party seems to be offering much in the way of programs to create jobs. I am a Democrat, and in the past, my party has been responsible for the great majority of job creation ideas and programs in this country. So, it is terribly frustrating to see numbers like this and see no proposals on the table to jump-start job creation. I don't expect to see proposals like these from Republicans, since they generally oppose them. But, we need to see something before the economy slows, as is predicted, later in the year. This situation grows more and more similar to the Great Depression. So, we need programs that are national in scope and address a host of needs simultaneously (job creation, infrastructure repair, environmental awareness, etc.). We should go into the 2012 election in the strongest position possible, and we are not there at this point.
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Jennifer Mead
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06:03 PM on 05/18/2011
Thank you Republicans and Reaganomics. A perfect plan to make the rich richer and the middle class disappear.
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sistersuperior
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09:48 PM on 05/18/2011
Agreed. When are middle class americans going to catch on? Republicans are waging a war against the middle class and they are winning. Reagan started it with his war against labor unions and his followers are following his path.
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chaz
05:53 PM on 05/18/2011
Another reason why your nuts to vote for a Republican/teabagger.

Turn off Fox and Clear channel before it's to late.
05:50 PM on 05/18/2011
Recession? What recession?

According to the U.S. gov't, the recession ended in June 2009 (yeah, right)
05:38 PM on 05/18/2011
i can't really decide what annoys me more... referring to this depression as "the great recession" or referring to it in the past tense as though it's over and done with...
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Phreaked
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05:14 PM on 05/18/2011
Its not just recent grads, those of us who graduated in 2003-2004 we're laid off most during the recession because we were the least tenured and least paid and therefore owed the least amount in severance.

Even here in Canada where we were hit relatively easily it took me 9 months to get ANY job and another 2 years to get back to the wage i was making previously.

All while burning through what savings i had and running up $12000 in debt.
05:06 PM on 05/18/2011
Too many people and too few jobs............ We need to reduce both LEGAL and illegal immigration. We need to quit adding to the problem of high unemployment. WIth an unemployment rate of 9% and an under employment rate of 20% we do not need more people. Let's find jobs for the ones that are here first.
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Jennifer Mead
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06:05 PM on 05/18/2011
Jobs have left the country. Either fine the companies that ship our jobs overseas and use that as seed money to start new industries OR make it illegal. Immigration has zero to do with our plight here. Love and lust for corporations has done all that. Thank your local Republican and his / her policies that tell you the trickle down will take care of you.
07:19 PM on 05/18/2011
Corporations should have the right to ship their jobs wherever they want. If you don't like it, buy from other ones. It isn't the government that owns these companies (Well, they own 33% of GM which continued to ship jobs overseas after their bailout.) And if we didn't ship jobs to China, China would not buy our Treasuries so we wouldn't be able to keep printing money without hyper-inflation.
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pugnacious progressive
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04:59 PM on 05/18/2011
A whole generation has basically been duped.

Growing up, kids are told to get a college education, that a mind is a terrible thing to waste, that a college degree is the doorway to a better life. It's drilled into them. In fact (and sadly) people who choose trades over college are sometimes made fun of....that's how much the value of a college degree is drilled into our youth.

But what our youth may not fully understand is that the GOP/Tea Party/Blue Dog coalition is doing everything they can to circumvent the value of a college degree by giving tax breaks to the uber-wealthy, so that the uber-wealthy can invest more and more in foreign labor and consumer markets. Now, the degree holder must compete with low-paid foreign labor, so that the investing class of America can become more wealthy.

So now tuition is rising, student loan debt is rising, but decent paying jobs are more scarce.

Thanks conservatives. Your tax breaks for the wealthy religion is doing wonders for the American way of life.
07:20 PM on 05/18/2011
How about get a college degree that is useful. Engineering, Medicine, Accounting instead of the majority of Liberal Arts majors.
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pugnacious progressive
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08:19 AM on 05/19/2011
Here's the problem with your statement: No one knows what's going to be a useful degree 4 years from now. So, when you enter a 4-year program, it's a gamble.

Take education for example. A few years ago, we were all told that there was going to be an impending teacher shortage. So a lot of people, quite rationally I think, pursued education degrees. Now look what's happening. Conservatives have turned teachers into the scapegoats for our bad economy, they're getting laid off, and their benefits slashed.

We are starting to see the same thing happen with medicine. We're told that medicine is a smart way to go. But check this story out: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/17/nurses-layoffs-executives-attack_n_862741.html

So, it's easy to say, "go get an engineering degree." But a deeper analysis usually reveals that it's not that simple. And a lot of people have become successful by following their heart, as the old saying goes, "follow your heart and the money will come" (which is not always true of course, but true for some).
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pugnacious progressive
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04:51 PM on 05/18/2011
The article reports, "The median starting salary for those who graduated between 2006 and 2008 was $30,000. For the 2009 and 2010 grads, it dipped to $27,000."

Wow, this must be a conservative's dream come true! Tax breaks for the wealthy (which they promptly invest in foreign markets), and declining wages for college grads here in America.

You have to give conservatives credit though. They have been highly successful at bringing us closer and closer to their goal of a feudal, plutocratic, miserable society.
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Jennifer Mead
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06:06 PM on 05/18/2011
They have been extremely successful and if you complain then you are one of these: jealous, lazy or just plain stooopid.
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sistersuperior
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09:57 PM on 05/18/2011
Yes, conservatives have bet correctly on the unbelievable ignorance of the american electorate. Republican pols pose as friends to the working man. They lay on southern accents and lace their talks with folksy stories. It doesn't matter what is said, the average voter just laps this pap up.
04:10 PM on 05/18/2011
Welcome to the real world kids, get used to it. Maybe these college graduates can do what most college kids do, become hipsters living in Williamsburg, SilverLake or, Wicker Park. Get bad tattoos, live off their parents, and see "underground" bands all the time whining about how tough their life is.
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Soule23
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04:27 PM on 05/18/2011
And if you never succeed in life, you can always fall back on schadenfreude andSpite.
05:26 PM on 05/18/2011
Yowza, that's bitter. I hope things turn around for you.
04:10 PM on 05/18/2011
This entire situation is compounded by the fact that GW gutted Pell grant for both his wars (which he finish neither and said OBL wasn't a priority) and the fallout of HIS (yes, HIS!!!!) recession. No matter how much nay saying you want to do, despite all stated facts, this started under his watch, and you expect Obama to be able to fix 6 years of out of control military spending, tax cuts, and bad regulation in 2 years. Talk about out of touch with reality. BTW, how are the jobs coming under that new republican house and the new republican governors, cause from here it looks like they don't care about anything other than stopping gay marriage and a woman's right to choose...good to see that they sure keep their word about what's important to them. Tell me again how that's suppose to help create jobs. Secondly had Bush not cut Pell grant, students would not have had to take out so many loans to pay for school. I personally saw my Pell grant cut in half right as I entered for my 4 year degree. I had not had any change in financial status and neither had my parents. When I asked the financial aid department about this they told me that there was not as much Pell grant money that year and probably wouldn't be more for awhile. So thank you, republicans for flushing my generation down the toilet. What goes around, comes around.
04:05 PM on 05/18/2011
I hear this story allmost every year. Be afraid. Be very afraid. Hard work and perseverance overcome all obstacles. Opportunity knocks,disguised as hard work!
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Phreaked
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05:16 PM on 05/18/2011
hmmm odd that no knocking has occurred in a couple years
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Jo Le Tiel
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07:06 PM on 05/18/2011
Funny, I would have agreed with you ten years ago. Not any more.