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Harry Reid: 'Clean' Debt Extension Vote Could Spook Markets

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First Posted: 05/24/11 05:28 PM ET Updated: 07/24/11 06:12 AM ET

WASHINGTON -- The House GOP's plan to hold a vote on a clean extension of the debt ceiling -- which is expected to fail without Republican support -- will send "a terrible message to the international community," Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said Tuesday.

"We're trying to do something that the international community sees as responsible in addressing the problems that we have with the debt," Reid told reporters. "I can't think of a way that is much more irresponsible than bringing up a debt limit extension just to show it can't pass."

House Republicans announced Tuesday morning they would hold a vote next week on a bill to raise the debt ceiling without other measures to bring down the overall debt. The bill is certain to fail: House GOP Whip Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) has said that not a single House Republican would support a clean extension.

Some Democrats may support the bill, which would authorize the Treasury to take on more debt without additional spending cuts and long-term deficit reduction plans. Led by Rep. Peter Welch (D-Vt.), 114 Democrats signed onto a call for a clean extension of the debt ceiling to avoid putting markets at risk.

Welch said he will likely vote for the bill next week, but he will not encourage his colleagues to support the bill. He said the House Republican effort is likely to "play into concerns" about political gridlock over the budget, which he said were part of an April announcement by ratings agency Standard and Poor's that it would downgrade the government's credit rating if Congress could not find consensus on dealing with the national debt.

"This is not a serious proposal with any serious purpose," Welch told HuffPost. "This is a complete political maneuver that's not intended to address the challenge of paying our bills."

He said the fact that the bill will be considered on suspension, requiring support from two-thirds of the chamber for passage, proves that the House Republicans are using the vote as a "political maneuver."

Rep. Gary Ackerman (D-N.Y.), a member of the House Financial Services Committee, told HuffPost he saw the GOP plan as proof of Republicans' "market-be-damned attitude."

"They're willing to put the reputation and financial integrity of the United States at risk," he said. "They're a group of marauding gangsters looking for someone to lead their party. They're taking oaths of purity and they think this is part of the process."

Ackerman said the markets are probably smart enough to see the vote as a stunt, but that it could still be damaging.

"Anything that casts further doubt on the stability of our very fragile financial condition right now is certainly not helpful," he said.

Still, the Treasury will be watching to see if the vote has any effect on the markets, an administration official confirmed to HuffPost, calling it "theatrics" from House Republicans.

The White House has called repeatedly for Congress to raise the debt ceiling, even after President Barack Obama said the debt limit increase would likely be paired with spending cuts. Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner warned Congress that the government would begin to default on its debts by Aug. 2 if Congress does not authorize it to take on additional debt.

Democrats are hypocritical to demand a clean debt ceiling extension and then decry Republicans for holding a vote on one, countered Brad Dayspring, a spokesman for House Republican Majority Leader Eric Cantor.

“If Senator Reid is angry, he should call up Secretary Geithner and the 110+ House Democrats who have demanded a vote on the clean debt extension and express his displeasure," Dayspring said in an email. "The phone number at the Department of Treasury is (202) 622-2000.â€

Mike McAuliff contributed reporting.

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WASHINGTON -- The House GOP's plan to hold a vote on a clean extension of the debt ceiling -- which is expected to fail without Republican support -- will send "a terrible message to the international...
WASHINGTON -- The House GOP's plan to hold a vote on a clean extension of the debt ceiling -- which is expected to fail without Republican support -- will send "a terrible message to the international...
 
 
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HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Lemeritus
Been there, done that, lived to tell
11:42 AM on 05/25/2011
Unfortunately, Republican "theatrics" on this subject plays to an appreciative audience since -- ONCE AGAIN -- the GOP has defined the debate.

A quick glance at the Washington Post's front page yesterday makes it clear: "Poll: More Americans fear higher national debt than default" Americans should fear both, but of the two -- during a time of weak recovery -- default would be economic suicide. Not, of course, accordng to the Republican's one-note samba and, because people are dancing to this, they will be seen as heroes for obstructing a raise in the debt ceiling. (As a note: who doesn't believe that big business will prevail and Republicans will eventually do what they should be doing as a matter of practicality, but no before creating as much damage as possible?)

Clearly, we need to cut spending (subsidies, wars, and plain ole' trimming of lard -- though the Republicans favor doing away with any program that in any way helps everyday Americans). And, just as clearly, we need to raise revenue (oh no! woe to the "job creators"!) We need to do these two things in tandem.

Oh, and one more thing... we need to take control of the debate!
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halfpricefaustian
Voted for Obama. Waiting for Godot.
10:25 AM on 05/25/2011
It is not hypocritical for Democrats to want a clean debt extension. They would vote for one. It is hypocritical for the Republicans to bring one up for a vote when they have no intention to vote for it.
The Right is Wrong
Voting for the good guys since 1976!
09:08 AM on 05/25/2011
How clear does this all have to be.

The Repugs would rather phuque the US and the world economies to defeat Obama in 2012.

Very repugnant!
08:11 AM on 05/25/2011
When asked "How much money is enough?" John D. Rockefeller replied, "Just a little bit more."

Republicans are holding social programs that benefit the majority of citizens hostage so they can fund tax breaks to those at the top who need "just a little bit more."

Republicans controlled the House (therefore setting fiscal policy) for 7 consecutive elections preceding the Great Depression and for 6 of 7 preceding the Great Recession.

Democrats controlled the House for 29 of the 31 elections in between those two events, presiding over the most prosperous period in our history.

Republican fiscal policies are the problem, NOT the solution.
03:30 AM on 05/25/2011
The republicans are the hostage takers. Their goal is to convince the families of the hostages, in this case the country, that paying the ransom is the best way to get their daughter back, in this case the economy. The ransom is strict, massive budget cuts designed to dramatically reduce domestic spending that can hurt the well-being of the families (the individuals in the country) and the well-being of the hostages (economic health). The negotiator is the democrats, trying to convince the family that they can get their daughter back without them having to pay the ransom. The police as a whole, trying to apply enough pressure to scare the captors into believing that they won't be able to get away are the democrats and the business community, who have to apply enough pressure to the captors to convince them that they won't be able to get away whether they get their ransom or not.

There's even more parallels than that. The whole situation fits the hostage situation analogy perfectly.
Osusuki
KO fan
11:18 PM on 05/24/2011
Oh, EFF you, Harry! Take the debt ceiling out of the picture and we can tone down the rhetoric around here to the point where we may actually be able to do something constructive. Don't put anything else in the way of that!
10:37 PM on 05/24/2011
When America declares Bankruptcy... it will certainly spook world investors.

Harry... your buddies in Congress MUST stop spending money WE DON'T HAVE.

DO NOT RAISE THE DEBT CEILING.... THE INTEREST ON THE DEBT IS OVER A HALF OF TRILLION DOLLARS A YEAR... we might be able to build some schools, pave some roads, build some parks, with the money we are now paying to international investors.

And the biggest investor in america is the CLUB OF PRIVATE UNAUDITED BANKERS, (the federal reserve bank)... they are making a bundle on the interest paid by we taxpayers.

Let's stop sending BILLIONS to prop up corrupt dictators around the world. How much does each Tomahawk missile cost anyway?

STOP SPENDING AND START DRILLING NOW!

It's as SIMPLE as that!
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HUFFPOST PUNDIT
rubygreen
10:31 PM on 05/24/2011
Again HP another misleading headline! Just STOP IT!
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HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Piraticalsimian
I went to college AND the school of hard knocks
09:13 PM on 05/24/2011
“If Senator Reid is angry, he should call up Secretary Geithner and the 110+ House Democrats who have demanded a vote on the clean debt extension and express his displeasure," Dayspring said in an email. "The phone number at the Department of Treasury is (202) 622-2000.â€

I say we all call that number and let the Dems know want them to grow a spine and stop running from the GOP every time they screech.
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HUFFPOST SUPER USER
becky bradshaw
"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth
10:27 PM on 05/24/2011
True. It is impossible to work with an opponent that is suicidal. The Republican­s have absolutely no interest in the American economy. The more unemployed Americans there are next November, the better for them.

Reference: http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2011_02/028020.php
09:08 PM on 05/24/2011
HARRY YOU SHOULD SUPPORT THE RYAN BUDGET ITS YOUR CHOICE IF THE DEBT LIMIT ISNT EXTENDED.
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HUFFPOST SUPER USER
almostlyniceguy
Not young enough to know everything..
09:48 PM on 05/24/2011
Harry is not stupid. It is the republicans who will be at fault - the dems agreed to clean ceiling extensions many times for Bush. The place to deal with the debt is in the budget process, not in placing the financial integrity of the US at risk.
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HUFFPOST PUNDIT
rubygreen
10:33 PM on 05/24/2011
No one with half a brain is supporting Paul Ryan's bill. See NY26 special election.You'll be running for the hills.
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HUFFPOST PUNDIT
Welib
Peace on Earth!
08:29 PM on 05/24/2011
This is a scam!!!!   Let the Republicans vote NO on the debt ceiling and watch them disappear into quicksand!

MR. REID, A CLEAN! BILL OR NO BILL.  UP OR DOWN.  YOU PEOPLE ARE JUST TRYING TO GET US READY FOR A HUGE CAVE IN!   TRY IT, AND YOU TOO CAN BE REPLACED!!!!

DO NOT GIVE IN TO REPUBLICANS!!!   THEY HAVE HELD THE COUNTRY HOSTAGE LONG ENOUGH
The Right is Wrong
Voting for the good guys since 1976!
09:12 AM on 05/25/2011
It is a 2 edged sword.

One one hand, it would show Americans AGAIN, how much the Repugs hate middle-class Americans in favor of the rich.

But on the other hand, it would spell trouble for the world's economy.

Tricky!
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jsgaetano
Semper Fidelis Tyrannosaurus!
08:10 PM on 05/24/2011
Why don't we have a vote which proves how much conservatives hate America's economy?
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SteveM39
No more Regressive Taxes!
07:46 PM on 05/24/2011
For goodness sake Harry, if the Republicans want to go on the record as economic terrorists why are you stopping them? A no vote shows the world which of our politicians are holding the US government and the world economy hostage.

If Republicans are truly thinking of forcing default, it is much better to let them get a taste of the repercussions now. Or you can let them wait and do real damage later on.

Take the vote, stand firm and let Wall Street punish the Republicans like the little children they are acting like. Enough Republicans will knuckle under before August and show how much their "values" are really worth.

But you will probably let them off the hook and negotiate another capitulation. That just proves they were right and that Democrats are spineless and have no faith in their policies.

Learn to negotiate. Why is no Democrat demanding liberal riders on the debt ceiling vote? Our government bond interest rate is near all time lows. If The US was a business we would be selling bonds like crazy and investing that money in America's future. Demand a 5 year ceiling increase and have something to negotiate with.

But I see you are already giving up. "Please sir, don't hold the vote and risk a stock market slide". Now I see why Sharon Angle almost beat you.
11:46 PM on 05/24/2011
You are so obviously correct!!!
What makes elected Democrats so stupid?
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Eris23Skidoo
Dischordian Keynesian
07:42 PM on 05/24/2011
There is no compromise that republicans will ever agree to unless it involves putting the chains back on black people and reinstituting slavery.
09:44 PM on 05/24/2011
Without a doubt that is the most ignorant thing I have read today
07:35 PM on 05/24/2011
Politics as usual. Republicans, can you please elect some adults to represent you in Congress.