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Israel Allies Lobby Against U.N. Recognition Of Palestinian State

First Posted: 05/26/11 05:37 PM ET Updated: 07/26/11 06:12 AM ET

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WASHINGTON -- As more signs point to the lack of progress in the Middle East peace process, American Jewish groups and supporters of Israel are working to head off an expected September vote in the United Nations General Assembly to recognize a state of Palestine.

Even before last week's visit by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu appeared to put the kibosh on renewed negotiations with the Palestinians, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) and Jewish groups have been whipping the vote in the 192-member General Assembly where two-thirds, or 128 countries, are needed to recognize a Palestinian state.

The matter may never get to the floor of the General Assembly, of course, as it would first require the recommendation of the U.N.'s Security Council, a move that could be vetoed by the United States.

But an official with a U.S. Jewish organization, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the issue, said Israel's allies expect to lose if the issue comes up for a vote.

In February, more than 100 nations voted for a U.N. resolution that would have condemned "illegal" Israeli settlements and halted any new construction. The United States vetoed it.

The Jewish organization official said the United States, Israel and allies such as Canada and Australia are working hard to hold any possible vote below the two-thirds threshold. If a majority of nations vote for statehood, he said the thinking goes, a tally of 110 or 115 states would be considered a "Pyrrhic victory" for the Palestinians.

So Jewish groups are looking to the Caribbean for support, meeting with representatives of Haiti, Jamaica, the Bahamas, Barbados, St. Lucia and Antigua. They are talking with Central American countries such as Panama and Costa Rica.

In Eastern Europe, Poland, Hungary, Romania, Slovakia and Bulgaria are being lobbied as possible "no" votes. Kenya is on the list. So are Pacific Island nations such as Kiribati and Vanuatu.

No country is too small. Lobbyists for Israel will be schmoozing up the tiny principalities of Andorra, Monoco, Liechtenstein and San Marino, which wield the same clout in the full member body as China or Russia.

The Palestinians are also lobbying for support, of course, and are likely to push harder now that President Mahmoud Abbas has made clear he considers the door shut on further negotiations with Israel.

In January, Abbas laid the foundation for a Palestinian embassy in Brazil, the first of several South American countries to recognize Palestinian statehood along 1967 borders. Last year, the pro-Palestinian Arab League held its first summit with Pacific Island states such as Tonga.

That development has Israel's allies worried. At a session with congressional lawmakers at the AIPAC meeting in Washington, D.C., last week, one participant suggested that the Arab League was "trying to buy their vote" and wondered aloud whether the United States could "throw a sprinkling" of foreign aid to Pacific Island nations.

Whether such efforts would reduce Israel's isolation at the world body is doubtful.

"Every country will vote for [Palestinian statehood] except the U.S., Israel and maybe Samoa," said Wendy Chamberlin, president of the Middle East Institute and a former U.S. ambassador to Pakistan, at a recent Brookings Institution event.

"There is an automatic majority for the Palestinians in the General Assembly," said a European diplomat based in Washington. "The real question is where the Europeans will go."

So far, most European Union nations are hewing to U.S. President Barack Obama's position that Israel and the Palestinians must return to negotiations this summer because a U.N. vote would be largely symbolic.

Obama is traveling in Europe this week to confer with leaders of the G-8 nations and round up support for the Middle East vision he laid out last week.

British Prime Minister David Cameron and French President Nicolas Sarkozy have both threatened to support a U.N. vote if the two sides don't resume negotiations.

Cameron said Wednesday that he wanted to "try and maximize the leverage and pressure that the European Union can bring, frankly, on both sides to get this vital process moving."

The 27 member states of the European Union have rarely reached consensus on the Middle East, though. Germany and Poland have usually sided with Israel, while Ireland, Finland, Sweden and Denmark have been more sympathetic to the Palestinians.

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02:20 PM on 05/31/2011
He,you people,don't play the technicality game with the Israeli,they are very good at,just like the O. J. Simpson,he got away on technicality,on the murder case,they have a story about every sling shot coming from the Palestinian,and they have the media under control,and the false intelligence that feed the media, it's a perfect formula,
02:04 PM on 05/29/2011
Let's the UN decides on the US-Mexican border and the USA will get just 1 State Alaska and the whole world will support the UN "decision"!
Thelonius
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11:06 PM on 05/29/2011
Gibberish!!
10:33 PM on 05/28/2011
If Israel and its supporters try to block the creation of a Palestinian state, then Israel will end up more isolated and reviled than it is already.

Which is any case what they deserve.
02:42 PM on 05/29/2011
With the creation of the 23rd Arab state called "Palestine" Israel will be even more isolated so let's not do it! O.K?
Our planet was not created for the Arabs only!
02:02 PM on 05/31/2011
Not,for Israel either,just return the stolen land end of story.The British give up half of the world without fight,or this conflict will never end,and therefor no peace on heart.
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josie klapper
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12:40 PM on 05/27/2011
Do the powers that be in Palestine realize that if they become a "Nation, then the first mortar lobed over the border at Israel isn't a terroristic act, but an "Act of War"? Which will most likely result in a military response from Israel that will make the last "pacification" attempt/incursion into Gaza look like a birthday party? And that as an act of war, the UN can't say/do a bloody thing about the "disproportionate" use of force?
Tony Andrews
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01:35 PM on 05/28/2011
Really?

So, an Israeli squatter living in an illegal encampment in the West Bank who shoots at a Palestinian's water tank is engaging the whole of Israel in a war?

Interesting, because exactly that kind of activity has been continuing since 1967.
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josie klapper
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05:21 PM on 05/28/2011
Actually, if Israel wasn't making a very visible effort to ARREST any "squatters" that are pulling stunts like that, AND if Palestine was a "state" then technically yes. However, I haven't seen any indications that JORDON, whom last held sovereignty over the West Bank, feel's that these attacks amount to a Declaration of War.
But the last I checked, Israel will toss into jail ANY trouble makers that they can catch, as well as take bulldozers to any of the "illegal encampments" they can't look the other way over.
Tony Andrews
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05:56 PM on 05/28/2011
I really do not know where you gather your delusions from, but suggest that you take a look, once a week at this website to garner some small inkling of the absolute fact that Israel's state promoted and IDF defended illegal squatters in the West Bank are allowed to get away with a great many illegal activities while the IDF look on and decline to arrest them.

http://www.pchrgaza.org/portal/en/index.php?option=com_content
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04:54 PM on 05/28/2011
As you were saying earlier, facts can be scarce in this thread.

Whether or not a violent act by Gaza on Israel is a good idea, politically, pr-wise, etc., it is a legal act. What is a war crime (and was stated as such in the "Goldstone Report") is using techniques that may unnecessarily endanger civilians, such as rockets that cannot be aimed.

The current kill ratio is about 100 to 1, Gazans killed to Israelis killed. That, as an act of war, is illegal (same report). What the UN can do is arrest the generals -- just like Milosovic. That would make it really difficult for the IDF to get anything done. Hamas can just stay home.
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josie klapper
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05:15 PM on 05/28/2011
Um, you do know that the Goldstone report" called Hamas on using "Human Shields" among other "War Crimes", and Goldstone has been trying to get the report rescinded?
Actually most (many?) prominent Israeli's aren't traveling abroad over that very issue.
11:29 AM on 05/27/2011
In the Six-Day War, Israel captured Judea, Samaria and East Jerusalem. But they didn't capture these territories from Yasser Arafat. They captured them from Jordan's King Hussein. I can't help but wonder why all these Palestinians suddenly discovered their national identity after Israel won the war.
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josie klapper
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12:53 PM on 05/27/2011
Careful, facts and data are seen as a liberal/pro-Zionist bias around here...
02:32 PM on 05/27/2011
How nice,Zionist gathering here to claim facts which in realty is lies and half truths.the Palestinians don't need to do anything to be attacked by glorious Israel .they are used to Israeli aggression and barbarism.the Israeli style have always been ...provocation,occupation, annexation.,to create greater Israel.Zionist style and strategy to blame the victims does not sell anywhere in the world except in America.Israel is criminal state with no morals
Thelonius
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11:12 PM on 05/29/2011
Jordan's annexation of the West Bank and East Jerusalem was recognized only by Britain and Pakistan. It was rejected by all other Arab states, the UN and the U.S.
As the Palestinians knew, under international law, the West Bank and East Jerusalem belonged to them and still do.
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josie klapper
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08:30 AM on 05/30/2011
Um, you might want to double check THAT. I know it doesn't fell into your world view, but East Jerusalem, as with ALL of Jerusalem WAS NOT part of any Palestinian OR Israeli "frontiers" under the British Mandate. Now if the UN actually wants to enforce IT'S claim to ALL of Jerusalem, it might actually do some good.
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11:21 AM on 05/27/2011
God bless Stephen Harper
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09:51 AM on 05/27/2011
The UN is completely controlled by Arab oil. The question now is whether anyone should care what the UN says.
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10:03 AM on 05/27/2011
Then, why do you care?

This argument that it doesn't matter is ridiculous. Obama says it merely symbolic -- so it can't happen. Why?
Tony Andrews
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05:04 PM on 05/28/2011
"The UN is completely controlled by Arab oil" is an assertion which you need to back up with facts and source references before it can be given the slightest credence.
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Rianna
09:01 AM on 05/27/2011
It's amazing what money, bribes, and threats can do. Mostly courtesy of the US I suppose.
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Talab
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08:30 AM on 05/27/2011
“The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly - it must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over”
Quoted from ...... Joseph Gobbels
Thelonius
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11:14 PM on 05/29/2011
I assume you're referring to Netanyahu, in particular his recent speech to Congress.
mage
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11:18 PM on 05/26/2011
Netanyahu could come out of this looking good..He can get together with Abbas, one on one, and negociate an agreement..He and Abbas will be in the history books of both Palestine and Israel as peacemakers..If this goes to the UN, and the US is forced to veto it, it will isolate Israel even more, and the US will be seen, for the second time, as telling the whole world" what you thinks is meaningless to us"..Not so good for us.
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RubalKhali
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10:46 PM on 05/26/2011
Israel's allies- oh you mean the U.S., Canada under its new George Bush wanna be Harpie, and Micronesia. Look for a Palestinian state coming to a general assembly near you soon, and afterward a flood of ICC warrants for Israeli leaders of collective punishment, genocidal policies and International Law transgressions.
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12:36 AM on 05/27/2011
The West is already wise to the lawfare tactic. I believe our institutions will resist Islamist manipulation.
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Talab
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08:38 AM on 05/27/2011
If our institutions were that wise... they would already be resisting judaic manipulation
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Talab
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09:01 AM on 05/27/2011
If my statement was not fit to print neither is his
If our Institutions were wise they would already be resisting judaic manipulation
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10:18 AM on 05/27/2011
That's one possible scenario. Here's another:

The new State of Palestine continues its terrorist attacks on the State of Israel and a state of war is declared by Israel which Palestine soon wishes to end. Negotiations are held between the winner and the loser of the war, something that never happened after the last war between Palestinians and Israel. Palestine is forced to accept the terms of peace dictated by Israel.

Becoming a nation has an upside and a downside for Palestinians. International law cuts both ways.
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josie klapper
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12:35 PM on 05/27/2011
Yep, my point exactly. Palestinians will not be doing themselves a favor by becoming a "nation" if they can't (or WON'T!) put a stop to the attacks on Israel. And if they would stop the attacks, then they wouldn't need to go the "Nation via UN Proclamation" route.
09:43 PM on 05/26/2011
Naw we should just keep sending billions and putting it on the credit card. Oops that card is over its limit.
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First Blast
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09:03 PM on 05/26/2011
Bibi has moved way left of center in the latest peace proposal. How can you toss away huge chunks of your ancestral homeland for an uncertain peace? It's bold but a pipedream. Just read the comments on this thread. The Palestinians have embraced a culture of rejectionism. Give them nothing.
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babybecks
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09:40 PM on 05/26/2011
Google the Palestinian Papers. Inform yourself.

"Give them nothing"

Even Netanyahu wouldn't say something this ridiculous.
Tony Andrews
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10:01 PM on 05/26/2011
Sorry.

You really are going to have to inform me as to what Netanyahu has "tossed away".

He has declared that the (internationally recognised as illegal) occupations will be a part of Israel - though SOME of the ones that Israel is so gracious as to agree are illegal (and which contain minimal numbers of illegal occupants) may be outside of Israel's borders, but he has not said what he will do about them.

He has declared that Jerusalem will be the undivided capital of Israel, and thus claims the whole of Jerusalem as Israeli, against rulings of the UN and the International Court ofd Justice, and denying the Palestinians the capital that they have always said is a part of their plan.

He has declared that Israel will maintain a "long-term strong presence" along the Jordan Valley (where Palestinians are currently being expelled from their lands in favour of Israeli illegal occupants).

He has "tossed away" not one thing, but has said, in front of the entire world, that "Israel is prepared to negotiate for peace" - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - "so long as Israel is allowed to continue to do what Israel has been doing for the past 60 years."
08:40 PM on 05/26/2011
Hey... Wait... You forgot the Solomon Islands!

Papua New Guinea...anyone? Fiji Islands?